ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED IS A LIE: Episode 6List of scriptures for proof!Read the Word FOR YOURSELF

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  • Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
  • Plenty of scriptural PROOF!!!
    #expose #falseteachers #oncesavedalwayssaved #falseteaching #falseteachings

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  • @jameshoptry1770
    @jameshoptry1770 3 месяца назад +2

    Not everyone who says Lord, Lord will enter into the kingdom of God! If you know the truth the Holy Spirit will reveal to you that cavinism is littered with heresy that will lead people a stray and put them on the road to hell! Thank you brother for having the courage and a Godly backbone to share the truth! Myself, I would rather lose friends and make enemys than teach or believe a lie!

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      Man, you are exactly right
      It definitely brings out the Pharisees when you preach against this

    • @Bob.55
      @Bob.55 2 месяца назад

      @@jameswelch0448 No, he is exactly wrong. It is absolutely insane and ludicrous to place the burden of eternity upon our shoulders.
      What you believe or don't believe has zero affect of what happens to your soul after the body dies.
      Don't get me wrong, I like Jesus and Christianity but it has to be taught to a child carefully. Catholics and Lutherans do the best job at teaching Christianity.
      Fundamentalist, fanatical, judgmental over the top, Christianity is ruining Christianity. Teaching a child the fundie way is mental and spiritual child abuse.

  • @OverlandUSAHD
    @OverlandUSAHD 3 месяца назад +12

    Jesus paid for ALL sin. Past present and future. He also promised He would never leave us or forsake us

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад +3

      Yup
      Has nothing to do with once saved always saved

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      @@adamgray07 you have to be completely Biblically illiterate
      I forgive you
      Thanks for the comment

    • @denisekay4292
      @denisekay4292 3 месяца назад

      ​@@jameswelch0448 - "I forgive you" to a brother!?!? That sounds very arrogant.

    • @terryr5353
      @terryr5353 3 месяца назад +5

      We are commanded over and over in Scripture to keep His commandments and there are many warnings to believers to remain faithful and enter through the narrow gate or else hear those dreadful words our Savior warned about in Matthew 7:21-23.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад +1

      @denisekay4292 Jesus told Peter we are to forgive the brethren who sins against us
      See? You have no clue the meaning of scripture.
      Thanks for proving my point and also for unrighteously judging me👍 also is sin! So I forgive you as well.

  • @robertlang9425
    @robertlang9425 3 месяца назад +2

    Thank you. Bless those following Jesus and we pray for those who are lost to be found. Bless you.

  • @shelbybrasuell9035
    @shelbybrasuell9035 3 месяца назад +3

    I DO NOT NULIFY THE GRACE OF GOD FOR IF RIGHTEOUSNESS COMES BY THE LAW THAN CHRIST DIED NEEDLESSLY. THE MEANING IS THIS IF WE COULD ABTAIN GODS FAVOR BY OUR GOOD WORKS THAN WE WOULDNT NEED CHRIST OR HIS DEATH ON THE CROSS TO PAY THE PENELTY FOR OUR SIN. READ THE BOOK OF ROMANS IT GOES INTO DETAIL ON THIS TOPIC. GOD BLESS 🙌

    • @encouragingword1172
      @encouragingword1172 3 месяца назад +3

      Living a holy life is not “works” as defined by some. It is bearing the fruit of the Spirit, operating in the gifts of the Spirit, and “pursuing holiness, without which none shall see God.”
      If it wasn’t possible to pursue Holiness (live a holy life), the word wouldn’t tell us to do so.
      Also If not possible for us to “continue in the faith” as instructed in Colossians then the word would not tell us to do so. The New Testament is absolutely packed with instructions for believers, all described by the use of verbs, action words, therefore, this is not attempting to work your way to heaven as some think, it is simply believers doing as instructed by the Bible and conducting themselves according to the word. Only Jesus blood saves us but if we are saved we will actively follow His instructions. Jesus said, “Why call me Lord but do not do the things that l say?” That indicates that if you’re not following the instructions for living as a believer then you shouldn’t say He is the Lord of your life because He obviously is not.
      There are also many scriptures which indicate that some ppl start out believing but for various reasons, later they fall away. There are many scriptures talking about that too.
      James 2:18
      New King James Version
      18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without [a]your works, and I will show you my faith by [b]my works (behavior and actions as instructed by the word.
      The works condemned by the word are things ppl attempt to do to earn salvation, like burning candles, rubbing beads, confessing sins to a priest or Mary instead of Jesus, bowing towards Mecca 5 times a day, forcing others to believe your way or be killed as an infidel, or physical deprivations or self punishments in order to earn favor with God.
      Pursuing Holiness does not mean performing outward manmade rituals or habits that make a person feel good about themselves but serves absolutely zero purpose for furthering the gospel or reflecting Christ.

    • @Michaelsorg7
      @Michaelsorg7 3 месяца назад

      @@encouragingword1172 right on!

    • @shawnsturgeon1014
      @shawnsturgeon1014 3 месяца назад

      Amen. Saved by Grace because we cannot earn it and we don’t deserve it.

  • @QuickRipzz
    @QuickRipzz 2 месяца назад +1

    Hello, I commented on this video earlier. I'm very interested in your view as I mentioned I thought I had fallen away, shipwrecked my faith, didn't remain in Christ and was as a branch to be withered away and burned. I thought I was doomed to hell over the past few years. I'm recently 32 years old. I've slowly been making my way back to a normal spiritual, wholesome state, by miracle. It's as if my heart was disconnected God and I was not a normal human being. I've met others with many bizarre testimonies as well from all over the world.
    What my question is, is would you find yourself as either in the Arminian or Calvanist camp? I guess not Calvanist but I'm curious if you'd regard one of the titles? It's good to hear your view on the matter. Thank you

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for your testimony!
      I'm definitely not a Calvanist lol
      I believe God allows free will and its up to US if we go to Heaven or not.
      "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink"

    • @QuickRipzz
      @QuickRipzz 2 месяца назад +1

      When I heard the tenets of calvanism it blew my mind at how shocking the tenets came off to me. That Christ only died for the elect. He died for the whole world. I have a mentally bulletproof friend who's calvanist and it blows my mind

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  2 месяца назад +1

      @reganabel7839 Yea, it's total blindness. I don't understand how someone can read the Bible and possibly get that understanding.
      He is the great manipulator tho 🤷‍♂️

  • @jeffmalone1502
    @jeffmalone1502 3 месяца назад +4

    There’s a passage the says names shall be stricken form the lambs book of life, it as clear as possible.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад +1

      On several occasions!!!!!

    • @samuellakestoneguitars5646
      @samuellakestoneguitars5646 3 месяца назад

      Yes! I find this super interesting, it only talks about names being removed from the book and not added. So did all our names start of in the book to begin with????? And is there any evidence of names being written back in?!?

    • @johnwilliamson-zj2dt
      @johnwilliamson-zj2dt 3 месяца назад +3

      Totally false, the question is was your salvation and prayer real and sincere when you asked for forgiveness only god knows

    • @samuellakestoneguitars5646
      @samuellakestoneguitars5646 3 месяца назад

      @@johnwilliamson-zj2dt amen

  • @rodmunch1931
    @rodmunch1931 3 месяца назад +2

    Great series. It’s funny that this triggers people. I think a lot of them are living in fornication or have kids living in it. We live in a sex cult. Luke 9:62 is one to think about- don’t even look back, let alone go back living the lifestyle.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад +2

      Yes. They are so quick to justify living in sin. It's so sad

  • @cr-us9ch
    @cr-us9ch 3 месяца назад +1

    two of my favorite preachers teach that you can't lose your salvation, but I believe that you can. Thier explanation is that you never were saved in the first place. It is written "they went out from us, for they were not of us, for if they were of us, they would have remained with us. I know most of these verses, but I have written them down and I will study them.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад +1

      You already know truth then! Hold tightly to that truth

    • @encouragingword1172
      @encouragingword1172 3 месяца назад

      It plainly says in the preceding verse thats talking about the antichrist followers in the last days. They will infiltrate the church in an attempt to gain acceptance and bring confusion. Their goal never was/is to receive Christ, just to corrupt the body of Christ, stir up trouble and then go away.

  • @katdumore535
    @katdumore535 3 месяца назад +3

    And btw the sinners prayer is faulty and doesn’t save. You can’t be “saved” by inviting Jesus into your heart. That is not the gospel.
    The heart is wicked and deceitful.

    • @tigerboy60
      @tigerboy60 3 месяца назад +2

      Explain it then. kat

    • @timjohnson7580
      @timjohnson7580 3 месяца назад +1

      Then you are your own savior? It is either Jesus or yourself. Good luck.

    • @katdumore535
      @katdumore535 3 месяца назад

      @@tigerboy60 [1 Corinthians 15:1-5] 👈🏼the gospel.
      [Acts 16:30]”Sirs, what must I do to be saved? 31And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house”

    • @katdumore535
      @katdumore535 3 месяца назад +1

      @@timjohnson7580 I stick to the Bible, no where does it say invite Jesus into your heart to be saved. That’s man made error.
      “1 John 3:20
      “For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things”
      (Your faulty heart isn’t what to base salvation on.)

    • @jameshoptry1770
      @jameshoptry1770 3 месяца назад

      Repentance and turning fron sin and being obedient to Christ through faith in Christ and allowing His Holy Spirit to lead you in your walk is the only way to be saved!

  • @joebobjenkins7837
    @joebobjenkins7837 3 месяца назад

    This issue is one of the single most important and Ive yet to hear ONE person actually spell anything out on either side.
    OSAS guy: "My sheep hear my voice, no one can snatch them out of my hand, etc. Mic drop!"
    Opposition guy: "I will not blot out their name from the book of life, etc, Mic drop!"
    Me:, ok, so how do all these verses coexist cause theyre all in the bible? They must fit together somehow.
    Both: ..........
    uuuummmmmmm
    .....
    Look over here at this verse, Mic Drop!

    • @wadeh777
      @wadeh777 3 месяца назад +1

      Honestly it's not even a debate worth having, it really doesn't matter what side you lean towards the scriptures are clear we're to have the fathers will, and follow him if we're living a life of sin cause we think we're saved that's pretty clear evidence we're not conversely if we never have peace in our salvation cause we're always trying to work to keep it that's also a clear sign we're not saved. The whole point is just to follow Christ and live how the book calls us to and confess and repent when we fall short

  • @tigerboy60
    @tigerboy60 3 месяца назад +2

    It's called Forsaking God, or Backsliding, straying sounds too nice.

  • @richardsaizjr7445
    @richardsaizjr7445 3 месяца назад +4

    Amazing, I love the gathering of scripture. Repentance, abusing God grace and consequences of sin is hardly talked about and even taboo in some.
    It was said many will fall away from sound doctrine and want their ears tickled. We truly are in the age of apostasy.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад +2

      Sadly, this is so true

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      @@adamgray07 you've posted that scripture several times
      You still need to repent
      And thanks again for another comment

  • @katdumore535
    @katdumore535 3 месяца назад +4

    So you’re saying you’re not saved. You’re adding works into Jesus’s finished work. Was Jesus enough or not? According to you he isn’t.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      Please point out anywhere where I stated that I'm not saved.
      I'll be here waiting

    • @katdumore535
      @katdumore535 3 месяца назад +1

      @@jameswelch0448 was Jesus enough of not? Your entire message is he wasn’t, isn’t.
      Let us know your man made standard, that God himself will hold you accountable for to do perfectly. 🧐

    • @katdumore535
      @katdumore535 3 месяца назад

      @@jameswelch0448 tell me exactly what I got do to be saved?… I’ll be waiting for your response.
      Let us all see your man made standard.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      @katdumore535 nothing about this video says Jesus isn't enough.
      What a childish and foolish accusation. Did you even listen to it in it's entirety????

    • @katdumore535
      @katdumore535 3 месяца назад

      @@jameswelch0448 I asked you how I can be saved. Can you answer probably not eh?… can you tell me in two sentences or less How?!

  • @michaelcody4345
    @michaelcody4345 3 месяца назад +2

    You cannot live like a hypocrite and still be saved! PERIOD! 1 John 2:1-2 And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: Yes, you cannot lose your salvation, but you can walk off from it and into will full sin. Demos left the ministry with Paul...having loved this present world. Which is the sinful life of the system of the Devil. And of course, it's not about being saved by works. Everyone true Christian knows that. That is the first thing that the once saved always saved group says in response! And there is a marked falling away in the end times. How can one fall away from something that they were never apart of? Its just that simple, but most out here have been taught that false doctrine to still love doing their sins.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      You are 100% correct man. Its their GO TO move everytime

    • @terryr5353
      @terryr5353 3 месяца назад +1

      Excellent and faithful teaching brother! Stern reminders from Scripture to all of us need to be preached!

    • @andrewsmall3190
      @andrewsmall3190 3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for this video. An needed call to get serious about the faith in this age of the great “falling away” ,ie, apostasy from Christ. Literally I’ve had folks tell me you can completely turn away, ie, apostatize, from Christ and worship Ba’al for the rest of your natural life, die in that state of unbelief and idolatry, and still be granted entry into eternal life in heaven. That is completely unbiblical.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      @@terryr5353 Thanks so much. It's not popular but Jesus warns us of all this rebuttal

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      @@andrewsmall3190 man, so many sadly do believe this. And the ones who told them this WILL have their blood on their hands

  • @KookieMnstrr1
    @KookieMnstrr1 3 месяца назад +1

    So are we saying according to Hebrew 6:4-6 that if someone falls away they cant be saved and come unto repentance again? cause thats what that sripture says. Honest question.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад +3

      Veru good question honestly.
      But it's not saying anyone who falls back into a sinful lifestyle can't be saved. When you study the Greek of what the author is saying, it's referring to those who have GOTTEN saved, fallen and quit believing altogether, denying Him... that's a type of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit

    • @KookieMnstrr1
      @KookieMnstrr1 3 месяца назад +3

      @@jameswelch0448 not gonna lie i was kinda worried cause i fell away at one point in my life, iv always believed Christ died for my sins, but I didnt pursue him like i should have but he pursued me, there was always a kinda knocking on my heart saying "its time to come home son" and finally I did or i should say im in the process of sanctification.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад +2

      @@KookieMnstrr1 Same here
      I was 100% saved while a teenager then fell to sexual sin and became addicted to women and alcohol. I was 100% going to hell. Praise God, like the Prodigal, the Holy Spirit made me come to my senses, I repented and accepted Him as my Savior and have fully surrendered my entire life to Him

    • @tigerboy60
      @tigerboy60 3 месяца назад

      No everybody sins even after there saved John 1:1-7 you Repent and ask for Forgivemess, but it you willfully sin premeditated and Forsake God and start worshipping satan or his satanic gods or sacrificing children to them , or if you Blaspheme the Holy Spirit. I would say you lost your salvation. But that is up to God and Jesus Christ. You shall know them by their fruits. If you saw a person watching Porn, Fornicating , doing drugs, cussing , stealing and he told you I got Saved when I was younger so I'm going to Heaven , what would you think? Matthew 18:3. Satan hates Christians, he isn't concerned about sinners, he wants to Temp and destroy Belivers. Look what happened to God's children and his Elect Israel, and the Apple of his eye King David. Satan decieved them and They Sinned. After the Lord saved the Israelites from Pharoah they turned there back on God and were left in the desert 40 years until that generation had died. These were people who had seen the miricals of God, but were decieved.

    • @samuellakestoneguitars5646
      @samuellakestoneguitars5646 3 месяца назад

      @@jameswelch0448it’s also a letter to the hebrews who were still relying on the sacrifices of the temple even though some were claiming to believe that Jesus is the messiah. The point being there is no more sacrifice for sins. Context is key

  • @yatesbrad30
    @yatesbrad30 3 месяца назад

    John 10:25-33
    25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
    26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
    27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
    28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never** perish, neither* shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
    29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
    30 I and my Father are one.

  • @Runnin4Him85
    @Runnin4Him85 3 месяца назад +1

    Amen!!!

  • @samuellakestoneguitars5646
    @samuellakestoneguitars5646 3 месяца назад +1

    So is it God’s power that saves us and then our effort to stay saved?

    • @samuellakestoneguitars5646
      @samuellakestoneguitars5646 3 месяца назад

      Book of Jude:
      Vs 1
      “Jude, a bond-servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, To those who are the called, BELOVED in God the Father, and KEPT for Jesus Christ:”
      ‭‭
      24-25:
      “Now to Him who is able to KEEP YOU from stumbling, and to MAKE YOU stand in the presence of His glory BLAMELESS with great joy, to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.”

    • @samuellakestoneguitars5646
      @samuellakestoneguitars5646 3 месяца назад

      Does this scripture seem to show that those who walk away from the faith were never really ‘of us’ in the first place? 1 John 2:19
      “They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us.”

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      Along with the Holy Spirit
      We have His Word
      We have His commands
      We have the armor
      We also have satan tempting and attacking us all everyday.
      We have to DIE DAILY
      Jesus tells Christians all the time to REPENT
      If we couldn't go to hell then why would He repeat REPENT to people who are already "going to Heaven"?

    • @samuellakestoneguitars5646
      @samuellakestoneguitars5646 3 месяца назад

      @@jameswelch0448 so does 1 John 2:19 show that some people were never saved but thought they were maybe? John Wesley’s testimony is interested when after living a life in ministry realised he was never saved until he experienced being filled with the Spirit, only then did everything change for him and seeing all kinds of miracle etc broke out.

  • @samuellakestoneguitars5646
    @samuellakestoneguitars5646 3 месяца назад +2

    Do those who walk away from the faith never really knew Jesus at all? Or can you know Him and still fall away? Jesus did say about end times, depart from me……I never knew you. If someone once knew Jesus then gives into a sinful lifestyle, can Jesus say He never knew them? Or is the case that they never knew Christ in the first place? Or both depending on the individual? I guess whatever fruit we are bearing will show weather or not we’re in the faith. I can’t claim to be a friend of Jesus and then go and constantly cheat on Him through sin and then think it’s ok He’ll just keep taking me back. It’s a tough one to think about. But as Paul says, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. 😊

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад +1

      We can most definitely know him and walk away. The prodigal and the lost sheep are examples

    • @samuellakestoneguitars5646
      @samuellakestoneguitars5646 3 месяца назад +1

      @@jameswelch0448 but the prodigal and the lost sheep were still found and saved rite? Meaning they did know Him relationally, which is why they still ended up being saved. It’s a fruit of salvation that even in the midst of backsliding, we come to our senses and realise our guilt/mistakes and run back to God every time or if we don’t come to our senses God himself will find us again after going astray. I think if we never knew God we would never even be able to be drawn back to him. He’s the one who does all the drawing. We can’t even desire him without him pulling our hearts. Also how can anyone truly deny someone they know? They can’t, if I know Jesus, then it’s impossible for me to deny him and that also plays out in the fruit in my life.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      @samuellakestoneguitars5646 yea, they were FOUND , however , at one point they became LOST
      Lost=Not Saved
      Had they died, they would die LOST
      A little studying man

    • @andrewsmall3190
      @andrewsmall3190 3 месяца назад

      When Jesus says I never knew you, this is an example of Him denying the ones who denied him by their fruits.
      Check out these verses:
      [Mat 10:33 KJV] 33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
      [2Ti 2:12] If we suffer, we shall also reign with [him]: if we deny [him], he also will deny us:
      [Mat 15:8 KJV] 8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with [their] lips; but their heart is far from me.
      [Tit 1:16 KJV] 16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny [him], being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
      Now before we say, well they just never knew Him, compare to this passage where we hear of believers who once knew Him, but grew weary of serving Him and waiting for Him, and thus , in heart and in deeds, denied him. Note that they end up with the same reward as the “unbelievers”:
      [Luk 12:42-46 KJV] And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom [his] lord shall make ruler over his household, to give [them their] portion of meat in due season? 43 Blessed [is] that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 44 Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath. 45 But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; 46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for [him], and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

    • @samuellakestoneguitars5646
      @samuellakestoneguitars5646 3 месяца назад +1

      @@jameswelch0448 …..but they were still found. That’s the point of message, the prodigal was still a son of the house and the lost sheep was still a sheep of the pasture hence the fact they were found again. If they were never saved, would they have ever been found again?

  • @strattuner
    @strattuner 3 месяца назад

    ONCE born again,saved by grace,you won't want to live in filth again,when you are saved from your life of degradation,you fully realize how you lived,its a wonder anyone would want to be next to you,you MUST PRAY AND STAY IN GRACE,the lord will chastise you bitterly,JESUS DIED FOR OUR PITIFUL LIVES,never would i want to follow satan again,its a war with me,has been since 1968,he makes me puke at the thought of living the life i once was living,GOD DOES EVERYTHING PERFECT,INCLUDING SAVING YOU,IF YOU DON'T FEEL THIS WAY,MAYBE YOU SHOULD READ ROMAN'S 10-9-10 and get right,time is short brothers and sisters,we live but once,live it clean,like when you were born,BORN AGAIN IS SAVED

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      And we can walk away at anytime
      The exact reason YOU still SIN EVERYDAY

    • @strattuner
      @strattuner 3 месяца назад

      @@jameswelch0448 that's a fact,the sin nature is always there,till death

  • @Vitone22
    @Vitone22 3 месяца назад

    Jesus only died for us ONCE. his sacrifice is not every time we comeback to him. We need to renew our minds.
    Please read what you’re reading in this video from the original language. Hope you find the truth in His word and Spirit.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      I have found truth, that's why millions of us make these videos so others will find truth as well and not be led to hell

    • @Vitone22
      @Vitone22 3 месяца назад

      @@jameswelch0448if you believe salvation can be lost, what can make you gain it back if you come back to Christ? It’s not by deeds that we earn it, it’s by grace, Bible says.
      What sins can you commit for you to lose it? What deeds do you do to gain it back?

  • @markelder7160
    @markelder7160 3 месяца назад +2

    The moment you receive Jesus Christ as savior you l are seal with the holy Spirit the believer has eternal security in Christ nothing can separate you from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      Every soul in hell is loved by God
      Go study some more

    • @brb1050
      @brb1050 3 месяца назад +1

      People want to live in wickedness and cling to poor understanding of select scriptures because they do not read the Bible.
      They need to read thru Exodus and understand what Paul was warning believers about.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      @@brb1050 agreed 100%

    • @markelder7160
      @markelder7160 3 месяца назад +1

      Ephesians chapter 4 verse 30.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      @@markelder7160 James 5:19-20

  • @QuickRipzz
    @QuickRipzz 3 месяца назад +1

    I almost shipwrecked and fell away.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад +1

      It happens. It happened to ME

    • @QuickRipzz
      @QuickRipzz 3 месяца назад

      @@jameswelch0448 I've encountered a lot who testify of it actually. I'm STILL being rebuilt after 3 years. Insanely scary

    • @HonorWithSacrifice8070
      @HonorWithSacrifice8070 3 месяца назад

      @@jameswelch0448So you are damned. You see what happens when you don’t understand what these things mean. You clearly used those verses to prove you can lose your salvation. What? Is there some exception for you? Hypocrite.
      The promise to the believer (which it is made clear those who believe HAVE become more than conquerors and overcome the world) in Revelation is that he WILL NOT blot out their name.
      1 John makes it clear that those that seem like they are of the faith and leave for good are not of us because they would’ve no doubt continued with us. This means they weren’t believers.
      And yes Christ saying that nothing can snatch you out of his hand is true. You cannot jump out of his hand either. Unless you want to make Paul a liar when he clearly says NOTHING can separate us from the love of God. You are calling the Scriptures a lie.
      If you believe you are counted righteous and you ARE saved. NOT WILL BE.
      But hey, the natural man can’t understand the spiritual truths so you will probably call all the stuff I pointed out lie. You are trying to enter heaven on your own behavior and merit by default of what you propose. You are not doing the will of the Father which is to believe on Christ.
      Matthew 7:21 and John 6:40 go together.
      And btw, the only reason why you can say that you were shipwrecked and fine is because 2 Tim 2:13. A believer can fall into unbelief for a time but that is covered also.
      You are unlearned and you are HARMING my brothers and sisters. Stop and repent of your thinking. Believe in Christ.

  • @OverlandUSAHD
    @OverlandUSAHD 3 месяца назад +1

    God’s grace is far above any of the sins we may commit. God knew ALL THE SIN that ever would be committed. He paid for all of it with His precious blood. I’m His. I may slip and slide but I believe in His finished work. I’m not saved until I fail or am weak. I’m saved forever by His sacrifice. I don’t have to walk on eggshells but just stand up when I fall and call on my Savior each day. He is sufficient for me. Love all of you and will enjoy eternity with my family ( the ones that trust in Him

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      All of that is fine and well but never did you mention backsliding, falling away, straying away,... all of the things Jesus and His apostles warned all Christians about when they warned those same Christians of the ability to go to hell

    • @LSUTigerbait
      @LSUTigerbait 3 месяца назад +1

      You are correct… this demon-filled young man just wants to drag others down with him. Once saved always saved…

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      @@LSUTigerbait I forgive you for your demonic and sinful unrighteously judging of me.
      Your fruit proves your lack of a relationship with Jesus
      So sad

  • @GreatWhiteSquid
    @GreatWhiteSquid 3 месяца назад +1

    If youre truly saved, you wont walk away from the Lord

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      This is an ignorant lie
      The Bible clearly speaks of a great falling away, swaying, straying.
      Have you even read the Bible?

    • @phillygrl69
      @phillygrl69 3 месяца назад

      Heres MYYYY QUESTION....What Bible are YOU reading 🤔​@@jameswelch0448

  • @donreefer2034
    @donreefer2034 3 месяца назад +2

    If that's the case then you got to look at where you ever saved in the first place

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      That's a childish question that all uneducated Christians continue to ask
      Tell Jesus that the churches in Revelation were never saved to begin with
      Tell Paul that all his letters were to unsaved churches
      Tell James his letter was to unsaved Jews
      You need to study scripture and see that ALL OF THE ABOVE were written to SAVED CHRISTIANS

    • @phillygrl69
      @phillygrl69 3 месяца назад

      This dudes lost. You KNOW the Truth! Don't be deceived...
      You're making perfect sense and I believe the channel owner is 'childish'

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      @@phillygrl69 and you call yourself a Christian?

  • @encouragingword1172
    @encouragingword1172 3 месяца назад +1

    22 …present you before Him holy, blameless and beyond reproach- 23 IF INDEED YOU CONTINUE IN THE FAITH FIRMLY ESTABLISHED, STEADFAST, NOT SHIFTING FROM THE HOPE OF THE GOSPEL THAT YOU HAVE HEARD which was proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, was made a minister.
    That’s pretty clear!

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад +1

      Agreed. Clear that we can stray

    • @encouragingword1172
      @encouragingword1172 3 месяца назад +1

      @@jameswelch0448 Yes, lve had that debate with several ppl. None know exactly how to answer that scripture about the necessity to “continue” in the faith because continue is a verb, a word of action, which is considered to be “a work.” Also the one in Hebrews that says if we return to living sinfully after knowing the Lord that there remains no more sacrifice for sin. One must really want to believe OSAS to believe it and ignore or twist all the scriptures that so plainly go against it. This is why our nation is in such a spiritual freefall. Faith without works is dead, being alone.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад +1

      @@encouragingword1172 very well said!!!

  • @azm2121
    @azm2121 3 месяца назад +1

    Stay preaching truth brother❤️

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      Yes sir. The Pharisees are big mad bro

    • @LSUTigerbait
      @LSUTigerbait 3 месяца назад +1

      He’s a monstrous liar

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      @@LSUTigerbait repent
      I forgive you

  • @adamgray8186
    @adamgray8186 3 месяца назад +1

    ACCURSED

  • @jacquesw8725
    @jacquesw8725 3 месяца назад +1

    So if you truly have been saved you CAN NOT lose your salvation! Evidently you don't understand the bible well. I encourage you to study harder! I pray that you find the REAL JESUS!

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад +1

      Evidently you haven't watched a single second because it proves that you're wrong and are the one who is Biblically ignorant

    • @jacquesw8725
      @jacquesw8725 3 месяца назад

      @@jameswelch0448 Again you lie and judge me falsely. I did watch your non-sense video! Like I said before, I pray that you find the real Jesus! And when you do/if you do, the Holy Spirit will enlighten you to the real truth!

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      @jacquesw8725 not one time did i lie nor judge you falsely. You are spewing hatred by telling people they can just live however because they repeated a simple prayer one day at church camp and YOU are the reason they will go to hell and YOU will answer for it

    • @jacquesw8725
      @jacquesw8725 3 месяца назад

      @@jameswelch0448 Maybe you need to be told in layman's terms. You assumed that I didn't watch a single second of your video! What do you call that? Wouldn't that be a type of judging? Then you say/assume/judge me by saying the following: "You are spewing hatred by telling people they can just live however because they repeated a simple prayer one day at church camp and YOU are the reason they will go to hell and YOU will answer for it" I never said anything like that! You really need to examine yourself! The main reason Jesus died and suffered was to pay for the sins of mankind! It was a gift of God that all could believe and come unto repentance! It's not God's will that ANY should perish, but that ALL should come unto repentance! 2 Peter 3:9 When a person truly repents does that person not have the Holy Spirit? Of course he does! When you say that once a person gets truly Saved/Born again you're falsely stating that God can take back His gift! Wouldn't that be calling God a liar? Read these verses and explain to me their meanings? John 5:24, John 5:11-13, John 10:28-29, Ephesians 2:8-9, Ephesians 4:30, Romans 6:23 etc etc

  • @madmat990
    @madmat990 3 месяца назад +1

    You're reading these verses at a middle school level and coming to a conclusion that MANY disagree with. Do some more homework, Mr. Dude in a Pickup, and try to understand at a higher level.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      Mr Dude has 2 theological degrees and I have read them on a much deeper level than when I was younger. This is what proved to me that this teaching is False and will answered for due to it leading souls to hell

    • @brb1050
      @brb1050 3 месяца назад

      People want to live in wickedness and are angry when told to resist temptation, to not sin.

  • @jameslucas5590
    @jameslucas5590 3 месяца назад

    Hebrews is the old Testament. The new covenant that is Jesus closes the book on Old Testament. Reading verses is not how the bible was intended to be read. Read the entire book not individual verses. NOW. Jesus says if you don't know him you will not be with him. Jesus is our Savior.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      Hebrews is New Testament dude.... you are Biblically illiterate

  • @Bob.55
    @Bob.55 2 месяца назад

    As far as bible proof goes, 1 John 3:9 is the only verse needed to prove OSAS. There is not a loss of salvationist on the planet that can defeat it's logic.
    You can no more be unborn of God's seed than you can be unborn of your daddy's seed.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  2 месяца назад

      You need to study to see what "practicing sin" means. With your logic, you're literally saying YOU DON'T SIN and that's a lie, which is a sin btw

    • @Bob.55
      @Bob.55 2 месяца назад

      @@jameswelch0448 Actually sin as defined by the bible does not exist. Sin is just a concept and power word invented by man for the purpose of religion. Same thing goes with the word holiness. Useful words but in reality, they don't exist.
      In a few short years you won't exist and when the sun starts the helium burn process the earth won't exist either. But don't worry, it's going to be about 5 billion years before that happens.
      Lol

    • @Bob.55
      @Bob.55 2 месяца назад

      @@jameswelch0448
      Moher nature gave you an incredible mind dude.
      Learn how to use it and stop being afraid of the big angry Jewish boogie man in the sky. Lol

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  2 месяца назад

      @@Bob.55 satan has you right where he wants you....lost

    • @Bob.55
      @Bob.55 2 месяца назад

      @@jameswelch0448 The only Satan in this solar system lives on planet earth. It's called homo sapiens.
      God gave you a brain, use it for a change.

  • @kellymoore8263
    @kellymoore8263 3 месяца назад

    Never was saved in the first place. If you're saved why would people want to keep sinning. If you repented and all that and pick up your cross and follow Jesus. Everyone to their own opinion.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      Oh so you've never sinned since you got saved????

    • @kellymoore8263
      @kellymoore8263 3 месяца назад

      @@jameswelch0448 I didn't say that I never sinned. We all fall short. But if you know your sinning and not guilty then you're really saved. Can't keep sinning and have a relationship with Jesus. Everyone has their own opinion. I just said my opinion. You can believe your opinion.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад +1

      @kellymoore8263 our OPINIONS don't matter 1 little bit. That's the problem, you fall on OPINIONS
      Who cares about our OPINIONS?!?!?!
      What does God's Word say?
      THATS WHAT MATTERS
      And dozens upon dozens of times His Word clearly tells already saved Christians that they need to be careful to not WALK AWAY FROM HIM because they won't inherit ETERNAL LIFE
      It's there
      Don't skip those verses

    • @kellymoore8263
      @kellymoore8263 3 месяца назад

      @@jameswelch0448 I know the Bible very well. I'm not going to argue with you bc it's not getting us anywhere. I definitely didn't say opinions didn't matter. We can agree with the opinion or we don't. I was just stating my opinion and that's all. Agree to disagree.

  • @shawnsturgeon1014
    @shawnsturgeon1014 3 месяца назад

    1 Corinthians 15:1-4 believe the gospel, trust the blood atonement. It is finished He said. St that point ever sin of every believer in the gospel of Paul is wash away. Those of you who are earning your way are the self righteous and satan has your eyes closed. You’re believing his lies. This guy is arrogant, he’s wrong, he’s self righteous and lost.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад +1

      Dude, you're so far off
      So you're saying Jesus was wrong when He said HE can erase someone's name out of the Book of Life or when He told an entire church He will REMOVE THEIR LAMPSTAND
      Go study bro then try to have this convo

    • @shawnsturgeon1014
      @shawnsturgeon1014 3 месяца назад

      @@jameswelch0448 we will see who’s right soon enough man. Jesus is on His way. I’m not going to argue about who’s right. When you are left here because of your own righteousness, remember this conversation with me and trust Christ alone and don’t take the mark. Salvation is the gift of God, we don’t deserve it, we can’t earn it. Therefore we cannot lose it. Believe the gospel man, get saved or you will go through the worst time never seen by man. God bless you.

    • @jameswelch0448
      @jameswelch0448  3 месяца назад

      @shawnsturgeon1014 I've been saved man. And will be gone in the Rapture . I refuse to go back to an unrepentant lifestyle and go to hell. I pray you get revelation of this Truth and you repent for spreading a false gospel

    • @shawnsturgeon1014
      @shawnsturgeon1014 3 месяца назад

      ruclips.net/user/shortsrRpZet3eSQk?si=7dmDqW9Sq66mqXdH

    • @shawnsturgeon1014
      @shawnsturgeon1014 3 месяца назад

      @@jameswelch0448 how are you saved?? Is it because of something you did? What do you think repentance is? God repented, did God sin? Repentance is going from unbelief to believing Jesus is God and believe in His works on the cross. It is finished, Jesus paid all.