@Stevean2 hey . I have a different opinion. Getting out with 3 hooks in 80% of matches is not fun. Especially when you have to sweat blood for those 3 hooks. Not trying to argue : )
Just introduce SBMM as a competitive mode and keep the regular old matchmaking in the normal modes. Let people play this game casually and don't force them to fucking sweat so much
bro nothing I'd different. I play the exact same and people still play the exact same when I face them I was rank 6 before the pinhead update. only been playing for 3 weeks now I'm kinda new. but yeah. how's is sbmm any different? obviously reaching a higher rank takes some sort of "skill" and youre placed with people in similar rank
@@averyhaferman3474 Oh new player trying to be the 5Head Andy vs a person who probably has like 1000+ hours on the game and know it's frustrating and garbage unbalanced nice...
I'm getting insanely boring matches, survivors don't know how to loop just drop every single pallet instantly or die quickly but still manage to do gens super fast. Chases is where all the fun is in this game and people seem to have forget it
Half of my survivor games are bad with potato teammates. Half of them are decent. My killer games on the other hand are exactly like in the video. 4 equal rank survivors vs 1 lonely killer = sweatfest every match. It forces the killer to run all the best perks all the time just to have a chance and to counter the survivors bring their best stuff to get a bigger edge. It's just not fun when every game is a sweatfest.
SBMM gives horrible experience on both killers and survivors (solo). 80-100% of the matches you get are sweaty, try-hard games. Unless you are equipped with powerful add-ons (killers) or play as swf (survivors), this game is hardly considered a fun game.
@@averyhaferman3474 i mean you are free to enjoy garbage. noone is stopping you. but funny enough, your comment doesn't say how many matches did you play overall, what rank are you, what did you play, meaning survivor or killer. lastly, bhvr is a terrible developer, they proved that many times. they don't listen to what community wants, so why would community be happy about that lol.
@@lastwhisper4624 I was rank 6 on killer rank 13 survivor. started last month. don't really see ANY difference in match difficulty befor and after the pinhead update
@@averyhaferman3474 when the majority of people are complaining about how they’re not having fun, and you’re the opposite opinion, maybe look around you
i am literally the lowest rank and not even that good of a killer but am constantly getting swfs that are red rank, gen rushing me, and doing the most before i even get my first hook. it isnt fun anymore.
I had that problem too, facing against the team that works together and all. Sure I brushed it off and continue to play as a lower rank killer. Then it became very frustated that everytime I hook someone, they all gang up on me and teabagging (If that is a word) . At the very end I was so close to having my first hook till they straight up just had to make it harder and starts teabagging me rather than leaving the game before the time end. The game was not fun for me anymore as I haven't won a single match as killer and survivour :/ I just like how it was fun and simple.
tbf the ranks don't mean anything red ranks are 50/50 most of the time either very bad or sweaty af but yeah if you play a killer for the first time and get like 5 4ks you start being placed with the sweaty players know to fucking man swear to god but at least to me survivor is still fun to play
@@sleepyz0mbie592 Same lol I feel your pain and they get butt hurt when you proximity the hooked survivor but if you don't have ruin or other slow down perks you get gen rushed and if you proximity or tunnel they get mad but its the only way to get decent results. Even games when i get a early down 2 gens popped instantly. honestly that is the pain that is dbd.
@@sleepyz0mbie592 I would prefer the same honestly I would like to play a game where I'm not thinking about winning and can just play get outplayed and not have 2 generators popped in the first minute. either same rank or 1 rank lower honestly. Either the mixed it with less experienced players in the mix or even more Nerf certain tiles on the map sometimes there are too many completely safe pallets.
In my experience i would have really bad survivors so to not be a dick to them i would intentionally extend chases or just stop chasing them so they can have some fun but at the end i would end up killing 3-4
Same, I play like the first boss fight in an adventure game. If I get 4 bbq stacks I call that a win and let off the gas a bit. Maybe slug and do property damage but only killing if there is some incentive (challenge/daily) to do so. The devs are actually terrible at balancing
Last game I played Twins and the survivor put in RPD, 2 gens later he DC’d😂😅. Still had fun with Twins being at both sides of the map and let two survivors go. Im no Twins main and currently I’m in bronze ranks, so far I’m having fun with these matches. Got tired of high ranks. Unless I get Tbagged or get toxic survivors then imma go hard the next match.
Man part of the reason dbd is so fun is cause you never know what you're gonna get. It's so unfun if every game you know you'll be facing one of 3 killers or every survivor will be running ds unbreakable. I really hope mmr doesn't stick dude
@@averyhaferman3474 Some people have just gotten lucky and didn't have to deal with all the sweaty players, now these videos and comment sections are just revealing who all the sweaty players are. Fact is if you quit sweating every game, you'll see that it's the same number of people running DS Unbreakable since before SBMM, they're just all congregating in the same matches and it's highlighting the issue.
i was about to comment something similar then saw this comment... he whines just for the sake of it Edit - i just carried on watching and Pug doesnt even get camped or tunneled and tries to kill himself on hook. He's part of the issue.
I'm glad I decided to get back into Ghost of Tsushima right when SBMM dropped. I haven't played a match since SBMM came out, but seeing what people are saying about it makes me not want to play again.
Yeah right now it kinda sucks just an example for me. My main killer is nemesis and the hag with them i consider myself pretty good so i dont mind playing against good survivors but when i use a new killer like the Cenobite i get my ass beaten. Is like whats the point?
@@PonchitoPoncho2050 which makes no sense because they claim that SBMM gives you a unique skill rating for every killer, and if you're brand spanking new at cenobite it should be giving you brown and green ranks. The new matchmaking is just as broken as it ever was, just in different ways lol
@@unregisteredassaultbutterk1185 Exactly i was specting going against “easy” survivors as the Cenobite but no only Hardcore Survivors with DC, Unbreakable, and Dead Hard just as if i am playing as my main killer but no i’m using a fucking new killer with no experience at all. Is just so broken.
Update: After 8 long years of valiant service my PS4 overheated right before the ending duel with Lord Shimura and is permanently dead. The fact that DBD wasn't the game that finally killed it astonishes me. RIP
The first two games I played with the new system gave me deathsquads, then the 3rd and 4rth game gave me babies (this is rank 1) . Just goes up and down too much. are babies that run into deathzones fun? no. are deathsquads fun to play against without meta perks? no. I wouldnt mind sbmm if there wasn't such a strength difference between killer and maps as well. Id say map rng is what ruins my experience 9/10 times. Getting a shitty map like haddon at high ranks just ruins your mental after a while.
@@TheOnlyChoy Coldwind in general is shit for killer As a Demogorgon main, I don’t want to talk about the absolute wasted opportunity that is The Thompson House…
I used to play only killer. I've owned DbD for years but only played every now and then. I don't think I have to say that I only play casually and just wanna have some fun. Maybe kill a few survivors, have some fun chases and that's it. I'm not really good at the game but I'm not a terrible killer either and i still feel SBMM. Every Survivor is so unbelievably sweaty now so I gotta really work for that hook. I don't wanna sweat, I just wanna play some games. Getting bullied isn't fun and it doesn't help that every single survivor i play against has at least double the hours than I do. I got a about 60 hours (i bought this game maybe in 2017 i think) and i constantly go against survivors with hundreds of hours, sometimes even 1000+ hours. I'm barely playing killer anymore, just survivor. I'm really bad at looping at get downed very quickly but it still is more fun than having to sweat as killer. It's a shame because I think the killers in this game are really fun. Everyone's unique and the killer designs are so good. I loved running around as a cowboy with a big ol' gun but now it's just not really fun anymore. When the survivors see that you're not an experienced killer they take full advantage of that. They t-bag you, constantly go for flash safes (if there's no wall around which i can stare at while picking up a survivor) or just straight up try to annoy you as much as possible. As I said I only play survivor now and if a killer bullies back, he gets heavily insulted in post game chat (if he's tunneling or camping). I get that. It spoils people's fun and that's why I don't do it personally. But when survivors bully the killer it's ok. They're allowed to spoild the killer's fun. But when he does it back, then he's the asshole. It's a shame because I really like this game. It's fun. But not when people take it way to serious, bully each other or insult each other. It's also not fun when you have to go against people with way more experience than you. They really need to work on the matchmaking system. Even I can see that and I know next to nothing about the game
That's why I wanted to stop playing this game and go back to RE:Resistance Every matches are goddamn sweaty in both sides Whenever I pick killer I try my best to play clean (no tunnelling no camping) but in the end of the game they all teabagging at me or spamming flashlight in the exit And as survivor I'm keep getting camped and tunnelled til I'm dead, they forced me to use DS perk Dbd is one of the most toxic games I've ever played
@@DevilsFavoriteMan Honestly i can't agree more, I've hardly ever seen a game more toxic than this, both in game health, and in community health. It's ridiculous. I don't see whats so hard to understand about the fact that you are playing against another person. a HUMAN BEING. Just.. show some actual humanity and stop telling everyone who killed you fairly, or unfairly, or who ran you for 4 gens, with or without meta, to kill themselves. It's disgusting behavior. Especially since most of this community, from what I've seen, are young adults. Did your parents not raise you to respect other people? Cuz it really doesn't feel like it..
that moment "Identity V" a horribly unbalanced game for both sides is more balanced than the game it copied, holy shit. Our expectations for these fucking devs are low but they consistently find a way to disappoint us.
No joke I actually switched back to IDV now. I still hate some aspect of it but DBD is just so unfun now. At least IDV have multiple fun gamemodes like 2v8, Tarot AND an actual dedicated casual and competitive mode. DBD srsly needs to up their game
If BHVR wants to take SBMM seriously they really need to get to balancing their game. Map sizes, keys, all the stuff that makes the game unfun for both sides.
As a killer main i already barely play now survivor i run no mither just cause i want difference instead of killing a game with everyone using meta perks nothing else we all just get bored of it
This has been happened for a long time, but BE still nerf killer because they can earn more money from survivors And survivors enjoy waiting a game for 15mins then quit in 5 mins
I'm sorry for these streamers honestly... The game is horribly imbalanced, you only see nurses, blights, or spirits at the top using the strongest perks in the game, there is no variety on the killers end. On the survivors' end there isn't either, DS, BT, Dead hard, Adrenaline and/or Unbreakable. Not to mention map offerings and Good items, Just because streamers aren't enjoying themselves does not mean they are not used to being outplayed, they have tons of hours in the game they solely play and they have been outplayed a lot of times during it. (response to a comment I saw before making this) Survivors are stronger than killers, and the lack of variety of killers, in general, makes it difficult to have fun anymore, and that's why streamers are complaining. You don't want to go against a god-tier nurse or spirit every match, it sucks. As for killer, you don't want to be bullied every match and only get 1 or 2 hooks if you aren't playing anything But the top 3 killers in the game, The game isn't fun if you are one of these streamers who are probably in the top level of skill excluding competitive, it's just not and they can't do much besides purposely throwing matches just to have lower MMR
there is virtually no reason to play this game in high ranks, just stop playing and stay under rank 3, that is what I do and I have a pretty decent time with it as killer. -- as survivor it doesn't really matter since your op no matter what as survivor and this is just gonna kill new players fun learning the game once they are up against survivors and killers who know what they are doing in low ranks.
@@Valaso-Osalav ranks don't mean anything anymore You can maintain grade 3 and not play for awhile but you'll still be matched with better players because your mmr is high from all the previous games you won It's virtually unavoidable as mmr doesn't reset to 0 every month
Great video! I miss the days when the game was just simple. Kill all survivors and survivors just try to escape. Simple and fun and now they have turned it into something it shouldn't have been
Old DBD was so fun. Sucks that BHVR are now oblivious on what people want in DBD. As a content creator, I’m just sacrificing my mental health to play this game. I sold my brain for Modern Warfare, and now I’m selling my mental health for DBD.
Haven't won a single of game killer since sbmm started Survivor has been much easier though because my teammates are of equal skill I think a massive issue now is that there are fewer weak links in a team as everyone of the same skill level are placed together
I wish that was the same for me, keep getting randos who are not even the same skill as me and its very frustrating to constantly deal with baby survivors literally handing the win over to the killer while I'm just trying to not die. Its gotten to the point where I don't even want to save them anymore. I hate how bitter of a survivor the sbmm has made me cuz I love team work but my god its a mess.
I have the opposite, the game is giving me fairly new survivors when I play Killer, but giving me 1000 hour killers when I have barely played Survivor at all. It's broken as fuck.
@@maxil8988 That's a pretty stupid approach, cod matchmaking is not the answer, what's funny is that all these players all sweating this hard and complaining about everybody else sweating hard. Imagine having a "wins" and "losses" counter on your stream, then complaining about people trying too hard.
@@k.h.691 Literally my games too, I’m the equivalent of a max iri survivor and my teammates are absolute shit and the killers are either babies with noed or sweat lord with the best add-on combos and best perks for their specific killer. I use nonmeta builds too for more interesting matches and plays. And its just pain with these teammates I have to practically carry on my back because they can’t survive even 30 in chase without going down or dropping half the maps pallets
There is more fun to be had with soft throwing as killer instead of trying and ending up in a sweaty lobby. Ive been just going for 4 bbq stacks and then intentionally fucking around so people can leave
The thing is, this isn’t actually an MMR issue, it’s a game design/balance issue, made glaringly obvious due to MMR. For me as an average survivor, MMR has dramatically improved the quality of my games, however I definitely sympathise with higher MMR players who now have to deal with DBD’s massively flawed design/balance issues being amplified by MMR. The problem is, if you revert the MMR changes you don’t actually solve the inherent problems with DBD. It’s just a bandaid to once again hide the problems that were always there. The game needs significant re-balancing, and for that to occur it also needs MMR for the majority of players.
I'm killer main with 5000 hours ingame. This system has failed 2 times already yet they keep implementing it. There is literally 0 fun in waiting 25 MINUTES for a lobby with full on swf optimal survivors just for them to break all hexes in 30 seconds and finish all gens in 2 and a half minutes. If you don't play nurse/spirit you are just asking to get genrushed. And this applies to every SINGLE one of my games. I'm done with dbd for now, have a good one.
People are missing point even if you win as a killer you still spent the entire match being miserable stuck in first person while the survivors probably just messed around or barely even looking at the monitor.
@@nuclearpugg Can confirm when I play survivor I'm literally looking at my second monitor repairing gens occasionally looking at skillchecks. Don't even budge when I hear a heartbeat most of the time because I know the poor killer is having a miserable time chasing somebody near me. Gens fly and I had basically no participation in the match so I just moonwalk across the map until I find out if my teammates need help or not before leaving as quickly as possible just to do it again. Survivor shouldn't be that easy / boring, I want to have fun chases and feel pressured without getting completely obliterated by a sweaty 4slug at 5gens nurse or something.. I miss the RNG of old matchmaking because while these types of matches still happened, there was a lot more in between. The survivors don't even enjoy genrushing but there's no point in intentionally not doing gens and dragging the match out because you're making the killer suffer for a longer period of time by doing that anyway. There's no "good" way for the players to currently counteract the SBMM to attempt making it a better experience aside from maybe running more useless perks / perkless but nobody's gonna do that and idek if that would help much.
So what you are saying is: The game shouldn’t put you in a match with survivors that actually know how to play? Even though you have 5000 hours on the game lmao Just say you like to beat up new players
@@HandlesL Hey if you like being sweaty, without fun, only playing optimally every single game that's on you. Besides that still doesn't fix the killer overpopulation in high MMR causing long queue times, and let's not even talk about the imbalance of a 4 man SWF top notch high MMR squad vs your regular joe killer. The game is balanced for casual games, not high MMR ones.
@@HandlesL Knowing how to play and playing fully optimally with competitive strategies are two drastically different things. 5,000 hours doesn't make you the best player in the world and it also doesn't mean that you want nor deserve to be forced to sweat every single game just because you're above average skill wise.
It seems that as killer, I get genrushed to the point that all 5 gens are done in 4 minutes, but as survivor, all my teammates try to get into chases but end up dying within 30 seconds of being in one
funny...i was the hag, that went again angry pug. and i guess i made his match terrible for some reason. just to say i don't play try-hard and when i was playing hag a few months back i was doing it to have fun.... i like how its become cool in this game to just bash people for what they do or how they play. i don't claim to be a professional at this game. but im sick and tired of hearing all this random bitching about how the game is not fair to you. the game isn't fair to everyone. i have tons of shit matches but im not calling these people losers or oh they are just a bad killer or survivor...grow up man. i actually liked angry pug, but i realized that was my hag and i can't remember the full match of course, but i remembered the name and i remember i don't play to be mean or annoying. i just try to have fun in a game
how DARE you use your character as intended? You have no right to play the game the way you want, friend. You should've let the survivors steamroll you, you silly
One time, it was like a few days after the new ranking system. I was playing as killer, I was Gold III/ IV, and I went against all iri players. And yes, the match didn't go well at all, but the survivors were definitely kind.
“Skill based matchmaking” *except that games last 5 minutes even with nurse and no matter how much pressure you build up gens still fly* like mmr in this game is a joke with how much perks can sway the game over with one side being way stronger than the other.
the way i deal with mmr is this: i never bring meta builds on either side, i dont care about escaping or getting 4ks and at some point the mmr is gonna put you in an elo where your opponents should be balanced even if you dont try hard. i personally prefer variety in this game, i like going against people with 300h and people with 2000h but i gues that wont be possible anymore in mmr
I really could feel Otz's pain with the whole thing, and i can understand it. I myself am on low MMR level, and yet i see like 90% of survivors using at least 2 meta Perks, and quite often full set of those. And then there's me choosing anything but meta and frowning at every survivor who has to go with those braindead picks.
@@The_Nocturnal_Raven It's funny how they don't want to hurt new survivors, but new killers? Nah, no choice but to be matched with SWFs who all have maxed out perks and add-ons who t-bag and clicky-click with the flashlight. While the new killers have to deal with level one perks and try and compete with master loopers while trying to figure out the game. XD Also not saying it's not entirely easy fro new survivors, since they too have to deal with new mechanics, perks and add-ons etc. But playing the game as a new survivor feels a lot easier, than playing new killer. if that makes sense?
I love people who cry incessantly about the game and half of it is just their skill. Like that hexy dude with the sweat stains, perfect example of the type of mentality you shouldn’t have😬
I feel part of it is because of his frustration. It’s hard to keep a positive & chill vibe going with DBD. I’ve found I perform better, and kinder when I don’t take it as seriously as people do.
I think the hexy guy was fucking obnoxious, and he deserved the L’s he got. But, the rest were pretty chill and cool. It’s ashame BHVR doesn’t seem to know how to make the right choices Not gonna talk about Otz we all love our chill spain boi and anybody who doesn’t is a liar
I love reading all these comments because everyone who is complaining about the matches in any way is just mad that they are getting people that play like them
killers complaining* me as survivors getting slugged with 5 gens up….. or me looping the killer for 6 mins am not ONE GEN HAS BE DONE…. we’re are these survivors that killers always complain about i never have them on my team.
Pretty much every single Killer match since sbmm I’ve played has been nothing but survivors playing really safe and dropping every pallet immediately while the gens pop. It’s so unbelievably frustrating to play killer now. Not only that, but there’s barely any weak links in a survivor team anymore. When you have a team of 4 players with equal skill, the killer is going to have an extremely hard time winning.
In my experience, if you don't want to go against sweaty teams every game, you have to stop using super meta perks. Especially Hex: Ruin. If you play your games with different perks you'll get easier survivor's and even then you will still lose 25% of your matches. This is how the system is designed. This is just the reality streamers have to accept now.
Funny thing is…. Ruin against smart players won’t last until the 4 gens left mark. Like I was just your average bbq, infectious, pop , thrilling blight that would very rarely use strong addons hell I wouldn’t even capitalize on all of my pops most games… first game I get 12 second chances with 2 iron wills and 2 resiliences with a bnp on a commodious. Yeah just use weaker perks totally.
@@brimp4989 "Wow I tried that advice for one game and got smashed because I don't understand that MMR changes take time" All I see are hypocrites, casual players are loving not having to deal with sweaty players all the time, there's just a lot of sweaty players that say they're casual because they want teams they can easily beat every game.
@@SherrifOfNottingham Funny thing is... i would gladly be outplayed if it wasnt always for perks that give the survivors free 2nd chances. meanwhile the 1 second chance killer has can be denied before it ever comes into play.
The solution is very, VERY simple: just do as other games do, create two game modes: Casual and Ranked. Right now every match counts towards your rank, so we're basically always in a Ranked match. If we have a Casual mode we would just get paired with random people and that will also make the MM way faster because right now the queue time sucks pretty bad. This will also change people's mind because they're just playing casually, so there's really no need to be try-hards, just literally have fun
I play this game on both ends, mainly killer and swf with friends sometimes. My two friends who only play killer at rank 20 for dailys dont know why they see the same killers at higher ranks. I try and explain 4v1 isn't possible with every killer unless you play like an A hole. 4 good or better survivors is hard and gens are far too easy.
I like the idea of it, nothing wrong with going against people of equal or greater skill. What I don't like is addons. Just make the game base and perks, addons allow for too much of a difference to balance around. You can leave chests in the game for survivors to rummage through and spend the time doing but they can't bring any into a lobby or map offerings.
SBMM is booty to the max and something unnecessary. I wonder where in the devs heads that they thought we asked for this abomination of matchmaking. Who am I kidding the devs don't know what's good for DBD and they probably never will.
I just enjoy it so much when I play demo and hear 3 gens pop in the first chase, of course I don't have any really good perks cause I havent bought all dlcs and gathered enough iridescent shards to buy everyone so no pop, no undying, whereas all I see from survivors is BT , DS, unbreakable and dead hard along with purple flashlights, pink keys, BNP and purple medkits or insta heals, adding to that the fact that I'm a console player enabling crossplay it feels triggering to play against stretched res pc sweats with small pp builds
100% of my games are Camping/Tunelling killers with Ruin/Undying/Pop/Corrupt Intervention. First half of the game is getting totems, The other half is doing gens, because unhooking a facecamping killer just snowballs the game to hell.
People who make money for playing games all day cry when they have to play against people of the same skill level? I think it's hilarious. Now they know what it's like for casual players having to go against people who have 5000 hours in the game.
From my perspective it seems like the matches are simply a boring fucking loop of people just tryna get rid of annoying matches. A killer that got gen rushed badly now uses killers metaperks against gens and powerful addons to not suffer from it again, survivors that werent running metaperks but just played with this kind of killers for more than 3 matches in a row now run metaperks to avoid them, but then they play against a killer that was casually playing the game, and the whole thing happens again. I like playing this game, it has an interesting gameplay and mecanic *idea* , so terribly and irresponsibly put on work that remains an ideia. I wish this game was developed by an actual responsible team, it would be such a great game.
Most games I've played were boosted survivors as survivor, except for one game where a GF brought a Mori and proceeded to get genrushed and got one hook after 5 gens. I might have contributed to the torture with a Flashbang save
What's funny is these streamers are in games they supposed to be in if they are that good like oz. Like the saying goes it's fun when u win but it sux when u lose
tbh, this isnt mmr's fault. its the games balance. the game was alaways like this, we just never were matched against / with good players, now yall see the games actual problems and blame the system like it made these people do this
@@EricDidntDoIt they go in expecting something different every match, meme builds, no perks, etc... MMR takes that way as for survivors or killers think they NEED to run strong builds. No one is thinking "oh my god imma pop in a match and shit on everyone." They want something different, perks, survivor/killer skills, and etc...
my friend playing dbd again and he hated the game before, when he tried it again this year, he is a killer main and my friend first game with killer and it was full of red ranks, he still hates the game but dosent depise it
I'm not joking when I saw that 7 out of 8 games I played survivors who either brought keys or brought plunderers with the best perks. Playing killer is just not fun anymore.
Before people say they are babies, people are just all having to try super super hard every game over and over against the same killers and same perks and toxic survivors, sure the game was already like that but it's no fun when it's constant sweat fests just for nothing at all. We all miss the fun
*nerfs killers which makes playing as killer unfun *killers play in unfun ways to actually win for once *game becomes boring and repetitive *game loses more players *new op licensed killer gets released and players spike [rinse and repeat]
This game is boring ASF for survivor rn. Every SINGLE GAME I go against tunneling, camping, proxy camping killers and I no longer have fun in this game. It’s boring as shit!
killer main here.... I mean survivor main (I had over 1k hours on killer and now Im a survivor main and I dont mind it) although I do agree I miss the old times when the killers and survivors were randomly bad
As a killer main, I've been have NOTHING but Sweat Fest. I have 700 hours as killer and I'm struggling to get out of Ash Level. They need to scrap this crap and FIX THE GAMES BUGS
The funny thing about this video is annoying survivors are being linked with annoying killers and suddenly neither side enjoys the game anymore haha. They’d rather bully weaker players for fun lol
as a survivor u only get potato teammates and a tunneling , camping killer , wich leads to me dying early wich leads to even worse teammates and killers and as a killer the matches are 50/50. 50% of the time i get 3 gens are done before i even see the first person and the other 50% i get potato squads
Same, its all I get. i don't care about what the killer does, there are ways to combat that but if your survivor team of randos are bad then only two things will happen, you'll either die carrying the team or you let everyone die to wait for hatch. That's literally your two options every game which is not fun at all. That's been my games since sbmm has been implemented and its boring.
I saw a comment the other day that I thought was interesting. "the individuals tilted by the MMR are tilted because they've been boosted to levels they can't play at." And while I'm not inclined to agree with that, I will say a shocking amount of players, both survivor and killer are sore losers, and a huge chunk of the community acts like children if they don't get the win.
I've always played for 12 hooks max amount of points. I don't think my mmr is that's high cause of that but the only way I can win is if I can tunnel slug etc. But that's boring as shit for both sides. What I noticed since mmr is that everytime I try to get to a gen the survivors are already holding shift w. The starts to games are atrocious
Just like angrypug I love it when everyone cries about a VIDEO GAME oh and angrypug is trash anyways so if he left DBD It wouldn’t matter and hexy wow I’ve never heard of him until these videos if he’s getting outplayed by actually good players (survivors) that speaks volumes about him in this game all I saw was him getting ran (bitched about it) then when he got a down he celebrated like he’s actually good lol this whole video made me happy
Their Mmr at the game called complaining like a b is sure super high. The game has been like this for everyone else for ages and since now they are the one dealing with the bs its so important
Or you're just so low in ranking that you don't notice nor is either one our opinions as important as someone playing the game for a living. SBMM is trash, no matter what game it touches. I have yet to see a current gen game with a decent SBMM implemented.
@@Leviathan_Art ou opinions as players matter as much as people who play this game for a living. Are you dumb ?. Also your agument of people being low mmr is usually the argument of people of low mmr LOL and i can tell that after reviewing your gameplay dear sir.
@@shard135 the issue is that people either get awful teammates and you all die with no gens done because you can only do so much, or you die to a camper in high mmr or the same three killers, sure it was like that before but now there is no balance, before you got random games. Now it's either impossible low mmr hell or impossible high mmr hell
I think dbd would benefit from a comp. and casual playlist. Want to go for the ranking bp? Go comp. Wanna goof off and dick around? Go casual. Obviously it's not that simple but at least keeping those 2 separate would be a start.
@@ryokiritani4187 the thing is that he complained about it and he had it equipped at the same time. and ds really isnt overpowered. what kind ass logic is that
The game was designed to hover around 2 kills 2 escapes per game. They are only whining because they cant do 50 game winstreaks anymore. It was fun when you could +3k for 50 games in a row, imagine how the players facing you felt? Hilarious how they are all crying now that the game is balanced around 2/2
Late to the party here (algorithim brought me to your channel and I found myself here 😁) and my experience with surv isn't too bad. in fact, since the middle of November I have been tracking my surv games and my survival rate is at approximately 50%. This tells me that I am at the right MMR level. My killer games are a different story. Yes I'm a surv main but I loved the occasional Wraifu, HagBae and Freddie games. Quite frankly I was not very good at it. I wasn't good at mindgames etc. So after I got rank 1 for the achievement I would deliberately keep myself at purple/green ranks so that I could enjoy playing my bootiful HagBae. I think this pushed my MMR with her (and Wraifu) to be quite high and I just cannot play killer anymore without surv tryhards. I used to call myself a Hag main but I don't think I'm allowed to do that anymore 😥 EDIT: I just can't play against decent survivors - not neccesarily tryhards. For context, my usual surv build is Live Forever, Kindred, Borrowed and Dead Hard (outside of rift challenges) - I like to think I'm not TOO tryhard for anyone whoi jumps on my statement regarding playing killer lol. Maybe I just never had the stomach for playing killer. A shame really because I won't even go for killer adepts anymore. I just want killer to be fun again. EDIT: Can't wait to see the rest of the videos. And also I am probably in the "surv-main-minority" that reckons Boons should be nerfed. 1 use. Done.Killers have enough to be getting on with without that.
It sounds like people are just complaining because they want games to be handed to them. As someone that solo queues as a survivor and is used to bad games, I think everyone should just grow a pair. The community states that survivors have it easiest when BHVR’s data showed that at high ranks killers were dominating mostly all their games. Now that SBMM is on everyone is complaining because they aren’t getting 4k’s? Take your entitlement and go then.
I don’t want to play the same 3 killers with the same 4 perks. I enjoy a variety and SBMM is basically punishing me for wanting to have fun. Every game is just sweaty SWF after SWF, map offering after map offering. I played haddonfield SIX TIMES IN A ROW while I was trying. To burn bloodpoint offerings. The game isn’t fun as killer anymore
Funny part about this game is the devs don't give a shit about what we gotta say about it. I started playing this game and loved it, but now SBMM has me raging and not feeling the same about the game like I used to. All the devs care about is getting paychecks from the stuff they launch
"I refuse to sweat every single match" hmm.. maybe become a better killer then? SKILL BASED means you get survivors that match your skill. Of course you get sweaty, try-hard games. If you want easy 4k´s make a smurf. What´s wrong with people... And don´t @ me, I know the system isnt 100% working as intended.
i think you've completely missed the point that it's not about wanting easy wins. it's about wanting to be able to relax and play a casual game and not get rinsed in 4 minutes because you didn't bring 3 gen slowdown perks. so if you want to actually play the game, you have to run the perks that are already stagnating the game. nobody wants to play with or against ruin, undying, corrupt, tinkerer every single game. and nobody wants to play with or against ds, unbreakable, dh, bt every single game. it's boring. they're trying to balance their game as if it was made to be an in depth esport and not a casual game.
The pain otz feel is something i can relate to and as a killer main Tbh its not fun to feel that you need to sweat every singel game so in the end dbd has just stopet being fun
I think I’ve had some of my favourite matches during SBMM, sometimes they survivors or the killer make it difficult and sometimes we all have a fun game and screw around at the end when the game is obviously over, But all the games I personally have had, have been pretty entertaining
Jesus christ that Hexy guy is so fucking toxic. And that had nothing to do with SBMM, he was just not doing well form the clips you showed. He missed his shots, and wasted his perks. Thats just him being bad
This game hasn’t been fun since Sbmm was enabled.
And it will be less fun after boons are implemented killers don’t need another objective.
@Stevean2 its pretty obvious you have never played Killer beyond casual level.
@Stevean2 Says not falling into frustration, but types in caps angrily on first comment
@Stevean2 hey . I have a different opinion. Getting out with 3 hooks in 80% of matches is not fun. Especially when you have to sweat blood for those 3 hooks. Not trying to argue : )
@Stevean2 god ew ur the worst kinda person. thank god im not you bro.
@Stevean2 Found the entitled survivor main
Just introduce SBMM as a competitive mode and keep the regular old matchmaking in the normal modes. Let people play this game casually and don't force them to fucking sweat so much
youre not forced to sweat..
@@averyhaferman3474 you are with SBMM
@@jmr_draws nope
bro nothing I'd different. I play the exact same and people still play the exact same when I face them I was rank 6 before the pinhead update. only been playing for 3 weeks now I'm kinda new. but yeah. how's is sbmm any different? obviously reaching a higher rank takes some sort of "skill" and youre placed with people in similar rank
@@averyhaferman3474 Oh new player trying to be the 5Head Andy vs a person who probably has like 1000+ hours on the game and know it's frustrating and garbage unbalanced nice...
I'm getting insanely boring matches, survivors don't know how to loop just drop every single pallet instantly or die quickly but still manage to do gens super fast. Chases is where all the fun is in this game and people seem to have forget it
Half of my survivor games are bad with potato teammates. Half of them are decent. My killer games on the other hand are exactly like in the video. 4 equal rank survivors vs 1 lonely killer = sweatfest every match. It forces the killer to run all the best perks all the time just to have a chance and to counter the survivors bring their best stuff to get a bigger edge. It's just not fun when every game is a sweatfest.
Sounds more like a player base problem instead of a sbmm problem
Don’t forget tunnelling killers. God teammates but terrible killers I don’t understand honestly.
@@ImThePerson0 when everyone has dead hard deliverance decisive strike and flashlight spam what choice to i have
@@almalone3282 I know lol
SBMM gives horrible experience on both killers and survivors (solo). 80-100% of the matches you get are sweaty, try-hard games. Unless you are equipped with powerful add-ons (killers) or play as swf (survivors), this game is hardly considered a fun game.
I've had plenty of fun matches. yall just complai about everything regardless
@@averyhaferman3474 i mean you are free to enjoy garbage. noone is stopping you. but funny enough, your comment doesn't say how many matches did you play overall, what rank are you, what did you play, meaning survivor or killer. lastly, bhvr is a terrible developer, they proved that many times. they don't listen to what community wants, so why would community be happy about that lol.
@@lastwhisper4624 I was rank 6 on killer rank 13 survivor. started last month. don't really see ANY difference in match difficulty befor and after the pinhead update
@@averyhaferman3474 Dude, it is really a difference in High MMR, enjoy the game as you can, dont get to high mmr
@@averyhaferman3474 when the majority of people are complaining about how they’re not having fun, and you’re the opposite opinion, maybe look around you
i am literally the lowest rank and not even that good of a killer but am constantly getting swfs that are red rank, gen rushing me, and doing the most before i even get my first hook. it isnt fun anymore.
I had that problem too, facing against the team that works together and all. Sure I brushed it off and continue to play as a lower rank killer. Then it became very frustated that everytime I hook someone, they all gang up on me and teabagging (If that is a word) . At the very end I was so close to having my first hook till they straight up just had to make it harder and starts teabagging me rather than leaving the game before the time end. The game was not fun for me anymore as I haven't won a single match as killer and survivour :/ I just like how it was fun and simple.
tbf the ranks don't mean anything red ranks are 50/50 most of the time either very bad or sweaty af but yeah if you play a killer for the first time and get like 5 4ks you start being placed with the sweaty players know to fucking man swear to god but at least to me survivor is still fun to play
@@sleepyz0mbie592 Same lol I feel your pain and they get butt hurt when you proximity the hooked survivor but if you don't have ruin or other slow down perks you get gen rushed and if you proximity or tunnel they get mad but its the only way to get decent results. Even games when i get a early down 2 gens popped instantly. honestly that is the pain that is dbd.
@@thecritic4063 Oh that kinda makes sense! But yeah. I think I just perfer to play with the same rank rather geting mixed? If you get what I mean?
@@sleepyz0mbie592 I would prefer the same honestly I would like to play a game where I'm not thinking about winning and can just play get outplayed and not have 2 generators popped in the first minute. either same rank or 1 rank lower honestly. Either the mixed it with less experienced players in the mix or even more Nerf certain tiles on the map sometimes there are too many completely safe pallets.
In my experience i would have really bad survivors so to not be a dick to them i would intentionally extend chases or just stop chasing them so they can have some fun but at the end i would end up killing 3-4
That's good, too many people on DBD don't have a chill bone in their body left lol
Same, I play like the first boss fight in an adventure game.
If I get 4 bbq stacks I call that a win and let off the gas a bit. Maybe slug and do property damage but only killing if there is some incentive (challenge/daily) to do so.
The devs are actually terrible at balancing
same, if i ever got 3 hooked or downed early on and i know where the last one is ill just let them save to let the game go on a bit longer
If I get a bad killer sometimes I let them kill me at the end of the match.
Last game I played Twins and the survivor put in RPD, 2 gens later he DC’d😂😅. Still had fun with Twins being at both sides of the map and let two survivors go.
Im no Twins main and currently I’m in bronze ranks, so far I’m having fun with these matches. Got tired of high ranks. Unless I get Tbagged or get toxic survivors then imma go hard the next match.
Man part of the reason dbd is so fun is cause you never know what you're gonna get. It's so unfun if every game you know you'll be facing one of 3 killers or every survivor will be running ds unbreakable. I really hope mmr doesn't stick dude
that's how it's always been..
@@averyhaferman3474 Some people have just gotten lucky and didn't have to deal with all the sweaty players, now these videos and comment sections are just revealing who all the sweaty players are.
Fact is if you quit sweating every game, you'll see that it's the same number of people running DS Unbreakable since before SBMM, they're just all congregating in the same matches and it's highlighting the issue.
@Stevean2 I don’t wanna argue with you but I just wanted to let you know how unbearable you sound and that I’m really glad I’m not as annoying as you
Dude even when angrypug is right he manages to find the time to be a baby
I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees this
i was about to comment something similar then saw this comment... he whines just for the sake of it
Edit - i just carried on watching and Pug doesnt even get camped or tunneled and tries to kill himself on hook. He's part of the issue.
@@ghostuk4062 bro was upset because the killer wouldn’t let him do gens
I'm glad I decided to get back into Ghost of Tsushima right when SBMM dropped. I haven't played a match since SBMM came out, but seeing what people are saying about it makes me not want to play again.
Good. Stay away, this game is boring asf
Yeah right now it kinda sucks just an example for me. My main killer is nemesis and the hag with them i consider myself pretty good so i dont mind playing against good survivors but when i use a new killer like the Cenobite i get my ass beaten. Is like whats the point?
@@PonchitoPoncho2050 which makes no sense because they claim that SBMM gives you a unique skill rating for every killer, and if you're brand spanking new at cenobite it should be giving you brown and green ranks. The new matchmaking is just as broken as it ever was, just in different ways lol
@@unregisteredassaultbutterk1185 Exactly i was specting going against “easy” survivors as the Cenobite but no only Hardcore Survivors with DC, Unbreakable, and Dead Hard just as if i am playing as my main killer but no i’m using a fucking new killer with no experience at all. Is just so broken.
Update: After 8 long years of valiant service my PS4 overheated right before the ending duel with Lord Shimura and is permanently dead. The fact that DBD wasn't the game that finally killed it astonishes me. RIP
Got recommended this 3 weeks later but with MMR actually out now it’s still the same
The first two games I played with the new system gave me deathsquads, then the 3rd and 4rth game gave me babies (this is rank 1) . Just goes up and down too much. are babies that run into deathzones fun? no. are deathsquads fun to play against without meta perks? no. I wouldnt mind sbmm if there wasn't such a strength difference between killer and maps as well. Id say map rng is what ruins my experience 9/10 times. Getting a shitty map like haddon at high ranks just ruins your mental after a while.
I see Rotten Fields as killer and I'm just like well RIP me
@@TheOnlyChoy Coldwind in general is shit for killer
As a Demogorgon main, I don’t want to talk about the absolute wasted opportunity that is The Thompson House…
I used to play only killer. I've owned DbD for years but only played every now and then. I don't think I have to say that I only play casually and just wanna have some fun. Maybe kill a few survivors, have some fun chases and that's it. I'm not really good at the game but I'm not a terrible killer either and i still feel SBMM. Every Survivor is so unbelievably sweaty now so I gotta really work for that hook. I don't wanna sweat, I just wanna play some games. Getting bullied isn't fun and it doesn't help that every single survivor i play against has at least double the hours than I do. I got a about 60 hours (i bought this game maybe in 2017 i think) and i constantly go against survivors with hundreds of hours, sometimes even 1000+ hours. I'm barely playing killer anymore, just survivor. I'm really bad at looping at get downed very quickly but it still is more fun than having to sweat as killer. It's a shame because I think the killers in this game are really fun. Everyone's unique and the killer designs are so good. I loved running around as a cowboy with a big ol' gun but now it's just not really fun anymore. When the survivors see that you're not an experienced killer they take full advantage of that. They t-bag you, constantly go for flash safes (if there's no wall around which i can stare at while picking up a survivor) or just straight up try to annoy you as much as possible. As I said I only play survivor now and if a killer bullies back, he gets heavily insulted in post game chat (if he's tunneling or camping). I get that. It spoils people's fun and that's why I don't do it personally. But when survivors bully the killer it's ok. They're allowed to spoild the killer's fun. But when he does it back, then he's the asshole. It's a shame because I really like this game. It's fun. But not when people take it way to serious, bully each other or insult each other. It's also not fun when you have to go against people with way more experience than you.
They really need to work on the matchmaking system. Even I can see that and I know next to nothing about the game
That's why I wanted to stop playing this game and go back to RE:Resistance
Every matches are goddamn sweaty in both sides
Whenever I pick killer I try my best to play clean (no tunnelling no camping) but in the end of the game they all teabagging at me or spamming flashlight in the exit
And as survivor I'm keep getting camped and tunnelled til I'm dead, they forced me to use DS perk
Dbd is one of the most toxic games I've ever played
@@DevilsFavoriteMan Honestly i can't agree more, I've hardly ever seen a game more toxic than this, both in game health, and in community health. It's ridiculous. I don't see whats so hard to understand about the fact that you are playing against another person. a HUMAN BEING. Just.. show some actual humanity and stop telling everyone who killed you fairly, or unfairly, or who ran you for 4 gens, with or without meta, to kill themselves. It's disgusting behavior. Especially since most of this community, from what I've seen, are young adults. Did your parents not raise you to respect other people? Cuz it really doesn't feel like it..
that moment "Identity V" a horribly unbalanced game for both sides is more balanced than the game it copied, holy shit. Our expectations for these fucking devs are low but they consistently find a way to disappoint us.
Idv has god awful balance but even then it's more fun than this
No joke I actually switched back to IDV now. I still hate some aspect of it but DBD is just so unfun now. At least IDV have multiple fun gamemodes like 2v8, Tarot AND an actual dedicated casual and competitive mode. DBD srsly needs to up their game
@@samuellinn tarot>>>any other mode
For some reason I'm at absolute god tier MMR. I can’t get a single hook for several games at a time. There is no weak link ever.
Looks like you need to learn the art of war 😏
@@MCstutta Even Sun Tzu didn't have to go against a SWF.
@SteveyTheEx-Eeveecope u weirdo goof
If BHVR wants to take SBMM seriously they really need to get to balancing their game. Map sizes, keys, all the stuff that makes the game unfun for both sides.
The game doesn’t even have an established win condition. We don’t know what contributes to MMR and BHVR refuses to tell us
change key, let killer players choose not playing with swf
then the game will be balanced
Imagine buffing survivors more and more then implementing a system that makes 99% of killers quit
As a killer main i already barely play now survivor i run no mither just cause i want difference instead of killing a game with everyone using meta perks nothing else we all just get bored of it
Imagine thinking survivors are benefitting from this at all
@@julianrosado1592 i mean their all totally benefitting from the same 4 perks everyone has ran
This has been happened for a long time, but BE still nerf killer because they can earn more money from survivors
And survivors enjoy waiting a game for 15mins then quit in 5 mins
@@王小倫-r1i true sadly way too true
I'm sorry for these streamers honestly...
The game is horribly imbalanced, you only see nurses, blights, or spirits at the top using the strongest perks in the game, there is no variety on the killers end.
On the survivors' end there isn't either, DS, BT, Dead hard, Adrenaline and/or Unbreakable. Not to mention map offerings and Good items, Just because streamers aren't enjoying themselves does not mean they are not used to being outplayed, they have tons of hours in the game they solely play and they have been outplayed a lot of times during it. (response to a comment I saw before making this)
Survivors are stronger than killers, and the lack of variety of killers, in general, makes it difficult to have fun anymore, and that's why streamers are complaining. You don't want to go against a god-tier nurse or spirit every match, it sucks.
As for killer, you don't want to be bullied every match and only get 1 or 2 hooks if you aren't playing anything But the top 3 killers in the game, The game isn't fun if you are one of these streamers who are probably in the top level of skill excluding competitive, it's just not and they can't do much besides purposely throwing matches just to have lower MMR
there is virtually no reason to play this game in high ranks, just stop playing and stay under rank 3, that is what I do and I have a pretty decent time with it as killer.
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as survivor it doesn't really matter since your op no matter what as survivor and this is just gonna kill new players fun learning the game once they are up against survivors and killers who know what they are doing in low ranks.
@@Valaso-Osalav ranks don't mean anything anymore
You can maintain grade 3 and not play for awhile but you'll still be matched with better players because your mmr is high from all the previous games you won
It's virtually unavoidable as mmr doesn't reset to 0 every month
@@SynthXV I don't see my response to this comment so either youtube or the channel owner took it down lol. I have no Idea what you're responding to.
I actually Uninstalled today. I know they still got my money, but it's honestly not enjoyable anymore.
@@ashleymartinez9635 sorry to see you go, I enjoy the game honestly just playing I wont spend anymore money on it but I will still play just to play.
Great video! I miss the days when the game was just simple. Kill all survivors and survivors just try to escape. Simple and fun and now they have turned it into something it shouldn't have been
Old DBD was so fun. Sucks that BHVR are now oblivious on what people want in DBD. As a content creator, I’m just sacrificing my mental health to play this game. I sold my brain for Modern Warfare, and now I’m selling my mental health for DBD.
Haven't won a single of game killer since sbmm started
Survivor has been much easier though because my teammates are of equal skill
I think a massive issue now is that there are fewer weak links in a team as everyone of the same skill level are placed together
exactly, you can't win if there's no weak link
I wish that was the same for me, keep getting randos who are not even the same skill as me and its very frustrating to constantly deal with baby survivors literally handing the win over to the killer while I'm just trying to not die. Its gotten to the point where I don't even want to save them anymore. I hate how bitter of a survivor the sbmm has made me cuz I love team work but my god its a mess.
I have the opposite, the game is giving me fairly new survivors when I play Killer, but giving me 1000 hour killers when I have barely played Survivor at all. It's broken as fuck.
@@maxil8988 That's a pretty stupid approach, cod matchmaking is not the answer, what's funny is that all these players all sweating this hard and complaining about everybody else sweating hard.
Imagine having a "wins" and "losses" counter on your stream, then complaining about people trying too hard.
@@k.h.691 Literally my games too, I’m the equivalent of a max iri survivor and my teammates are absolute shit and the killers are either babies with noed or sweat lord with the best add-on combos and best perks for their specific killer.
I use nonmeta builds too for more interesting matches and plays. And its just pain with these teammates I have to practically carry on my back because they can’t survive even 30 in chase without going down or dropping half the maps pallets
There is more fun to be had with soft throwing as killer instead of trying and ending up in a sweaty lobby. Ive been just going for 4 bbq stacks and then intentionally fucking around so people can leave
What I've been doing is just bringing in fun builds like all seeing michael or end game bubba. Cant be arsed in dealing with sweaty games anymore
The thing is, this isn’t actually an MMR issue, it’s a game design/balance issue, made glaringly obvious due to MMR. For me as an average survivor, MMR has dramatically improved the quality of my games, however I definitely sympathise with higher MMR players who now have to deal with DBD’s massively flawed design/balance issues being amplified by MMR. The problem is, if you revert the MMR changes you don’t actually solve the inherent problems with DBD. It’s just a bandaid to once again hide the problems that were always there. The game needs significant re-balancing, and for that to occur it also needs MMR for the majority of players.
Survivor is still fun, Killer is only fun if you play Nurse/Spirit/Blight
@@misantrope6267 or you're against lobotomized console survivors
I'm killer main with 5000 hours ingame. This system has failed 2 times already yet they keep implementing it. There is literally 0 fun in waiting 25 MINUTES for a lobby with full on swf optimal survivors just for them to break all hexes in 30 seconds and finish all gens in 2 and a half minutes. If you don't play nurse/spirit you are just asking to get genrushed. And this applies to every SINGLE one of my games. I'm done with dbd for now, have a good one.
People are missing point even if you win as a killer you still spent the entire match being miserable stuck in first person while the survivors probably just messed around or barely even looking at the monitor.
@@nuclearpugg Can confirm when I play survivor I'm literally looking at my second monitor repairing gens occasionally looking at skillchecks. Don't even budge when I hear a heartbeat most of the time because I know the poor killer is having a miserable time chasing somebody near me. Gens fly and I had basically no participation in the match so I just moonwalk across the map until I find out if my teammates need help or not before leaving as quickly as possible just to do it again.
Survivor shouldn't be that easy / boring, I want to have fun chases and feel pressured without getting completely obliterated by a sweaty 4slug at 5gens nurse or something.. I miss the RNG of old matchmaking because while these types of matches still happened, there was a lot more in between. The survivors don't even enjoy genrushing but there's no point in intentionally not doing gens and dragging the match out because you're making the killer suffer for a longer period of time by doing that anyway. There's no "good" way for the players to currently counteract the SBMM to attempt making it a better experience aside from maybe running more useless perks / perkless but nobody's gonna do that and idek if that would help much.
So what you are saying is:
The game shouldn’t put you in a match with survivors that actually know how to play? Even though you have 5000 hours on the game lmao
Just say you like to beat up new players
@@HandlesL Hey if you like being sweaty, without fun, only playing optimally every single game that's on you. Besides that still doesn't fix the killer overpopulation in high MMR causing long queue times, and let's not even talk about the imbalance of a 4 man SWF top notch high MMR squad vs your regular joe killer. The game is balanced for casual games, not high MMR ones.
@@HandlesL Knowing how to play and playing fully optimally with competitive strategies are two drastically different things. 5,000 hours doesn't make you the best player in the world and it also doesn't mean that you want nor deserve to be forced to sweat every single game just because you're above average skill wise.
It seems that as killer, I get genrushed to the point that all 5 gens are done in 4 minutes, but as survivor, all my teammates try to get into chases but end up dying within 30 seconds of being in one
funny...i was the hag, that went again angry pug. and i guess i made his match terrible for some reason. just to say i don't play try-hard and when i was playing hag a few months back i was doing it to have fun.... i like how its become cool in this game to just bash people for what they do or how they play. i don't claim to be a professional at this game. but im sick and tired of hearing all this random bitching about how the game is not fair to you. the game isn't fair to everyone. i have tons of shit matches but im not calling these people losers or oh they are just a bad killer or survivor...grow up man. i actually liked angry pug, but i realized that was my hag and i can't remember the full match of course, but i remembered the name and i remember i don't play to be mean or annoying. i just try to have fun in a game
That's the thing, if someone has an audience licking their feet on Twitch, that audience talks them up in chat and justifies all their complaints.
He is a killer main now lol
Isn't that Pug's thing tho? Being a toxic asshole when winning and a whiny bitch when he's losing.
how DARE you use your character as intended? You have no right to play the game the way you want, friend. You should've let the survivors steamroll you, you silly
You played well, the dude is bitching because his team was losing.
One time, it was like a few days after the new ranking system. I was playing as killer, I was Gold III/ IV, and I went against all iri players.
And yes, the match didn't go well at all, but the survivors were definitely kind.
“Skill based matchmaking” *except that games last 5 minutes even with nurse and no matter how much pressure you build up gens still fly* like mmr in this game is a joke with how much perks can sway the game over with one side being way stronger than the other.
RIP DBD. 2016-2021. Cause of Death: SBMM
the way i deal with mmr is this: i never bring meta builds on either side, i dont care about escaping or getting 4ks and at some point the mmr is gonna put you in an elo where your opponents should be balanced even if you dont try hard. i personally prefer variety in this game, i like going against people with 300h and people with 2000h but i gues that wont be possible anymore in mmr
A year later and look how right farmer john was, killer is so miserable to play even till this day since mmr was introduced.
My first SBMM game as killer I was put against a 4man with 2000+ hours each
I really could feel Otz's pain with the whole thing, and i can understand it. I myself am on low MMR level, and yet i see like 90% of survivors using at least 2 meta Perks, and quite often full set of those. And then there's me choosing anything but meta and frowning at every survivor who has to go with those braindead picks.
Survivors who abuse crutches won't get better, yet the devs wont balance them properly because they don't want to hurt "new players". It's a joke.
Why frown at meta surv perks? I don't use DS cause it's for pussy holes but dead hard, BT and unbreakable are amazing perks.
@@The_Nocturnal_Raven It's funny how they don't want to hurt new survivors, but new killers? Nah, no choice but to be matched with SWFs who all have maxed out perks and add-ons who t-bag and clicky-click with the flashlight.
While the new killers have to deal with level one perks and try and compete with master loopers while trying to figure out the game. XD Also not saying it's not entirely easy fro new survivors, since they too have to deal with new mechanics, perks and add-ons etc. But playing the game as a new survivor feels a lot easier, than playing new killer. if that makes sense?
I love people who cry incessantly about the game and half of it is just their skill. Like that hexy dude with the sweat stains, perfect example of the type of mentality you shouldn’t have😬
I feel part of it is because of his frustration. It’s hard to keep a positive & chill vibe going with DBD. I’ve found I perform better, and kinder when I don’t take it as seriously as people do.
I think the hexy guy was fucking obnoxious, and he deserved the L’s he got. But, the rest were pretty chill and cool. It’s ashame BHVR doesn’t seem to know how to make the right choices
Not gonna talk about Otz we all love our chill spain boi and anybody who doesn’t is a liar
I love reading all these comments because everyone who is complaining about the matches in any way is just mad that they are getting people that play like them
killers complaining* me as survivors getting slugged with 5 gens up….. or me looping the killer for 6 mins am not ONE GEN HAS BE DONE…. we’re are these survivors that killers always complain about i never have them on my team.
my favorite thing is when they let me die on hook even tho I'm running kindred...
Yeah cus ya suck
Playing 4 man swf lol
Pretty much every single Killer match since sbmm I’ve played has been nothing but survivors playing really safe and dropping every pallet immediately while the gens pop. It’s so unbelievably frustrating to play killer now.
Not only that, but there’s barely any weak links in a survivor team anymore. When you have a team of 4 players with equal skill, the killer is going to have an extremely hard time winning.
In my experience, if you don't want to go against sweaty teams every game, you have to stop using super meta perks. Especially Hex: Ruin. If you play your games with different perks you'll get easier survivor's and even then you will still lose 25% of your matches. This is how the system is designed. This is just the reality streamers have to accept now.
Funny thing is…. Ruin against smart players won’t last until the 4 gens left mark. Like I was just your average bbq, infectious, pop , thrilling blight that would very rarely use strong addons hell I wouldn’t even capitalize on all of my pops most games… first game I get 12 second chances with 2 iron wills and 2 resiliences with a bnp on a commodious. Yeah just use weaker perks totally.
@@brimp4989 "Wow I tried that advice for one game and got smashed because I don't understand that MMR changes take time"
All I see are hypocrites, casual players are loving not having to deal with sweaty players all the time, there's just a lot of sweaty players that say they're casual because they want teams they can easily beat every game.
@@SherrifOfNottingham Funny thing is... i would gladly be outplayed if it wasnt always for perks that give the survivors free 2nd chances. meanwhile the 1 second chance killer has can be denied before it ever comes into play.
The solution is very, VERY simple: just do as other games do, create two game modes: Casual and Ranked. Right now every match counts towards your rank, so we're basically always in a Ranked match. If we have a Casual mode we would just get paired with random people and that will also make the MM way faster because right now the queue time sucks pretty bad.
This will also change people's mind because they're just playing casually, so there's really no need to be try-hards, just literally have fun
This game is so horribly unbalanced at high levels that if you're not playing full meta as killer you lose
Hexy literally playing a killer that has no gen pressure
Besides ruin lol
It’s amazing how everyone complains about these perks and simultaneously is forced to run them even when they know they are boring, THAT is so stupid
I play this game on both ends, mainly killer and swf with friends sometimes. My two friends who only play killer at rank 20 for dailys dont know why they see the same killers at higher ranks. I try and explain 4v1 isn't possible with every killer unless you play like an A hole. 4 good or better survivors is hard and gens are far too easy.
Seems like this channel is Close enough to dbd rage montage
I like the idea of it, nothing wrong with going against people of equal or greater skill. What I don't like is addons. Just make the game base and perks, addons allow for too much of a difference to balance around. You can leave chests in the game for survivors to rummage through and spend the time doing but they can't bring any into a lobby or map offerings.
SBMM is booty to the max and something unnecessary. I wonder where in the devs heads that they thought we asked for this abomination of matchmaking. Who am I kidding the devs don't know what's good for DBD and they probably never will.
I just enjoy it so much when I play demo and hear 3 gens pop in the first chase, of course I don't have any really good perks cause I havent bought all dlcs and gathered enough iridescent shards to buy everyone so no pop, no undying, whereas all I see from survivors is BT , DS, unbreakable and dead hard along with purple flashlights, pink keys, BNP and purple medkits or insta heals, adding to that the fact that I'm a console player enabling crossplay it feels triggering to play against stretched res pc sweats with small pp builds
100% of my games are Camping/Tunelling killers with Ruin/Undying/Pop/Corrupt Intervention. First half of the game is getting totems, The other half is doing gens, because unhooking a facecamping killer just snowballs the game to hell.
People who make money for playing games all day cry when they have to play against people of the same skill level? I think it's hilarious. Now they know what it's like for casual players having to go against people who have 5000 hours in the game.
I may be one of the three killer mains alive who like sbmm
I love how Halo music play in the background cause it isn't DMCA'd xD
I don’t like Angry Pug but the other streamers had a legit point. So far MMR has been a miserable experience.
From my perspective it seems like the matches are simply a boring fucking loop of people just tryna get rid of annoying matches. A killer that got gen rushed badly now uses killers metaperks against gens and powerful addons to not suffer from it again, survivors that werent running metaperks but just played with this kind of killers for more than 3 matches in a row now run metaperks to avoid them, but then they play against a killer that was casually playing the game, and the whole thing happens again. I like playing this game, it has an interesting gameplay and mecanic *idea* , so terribly and irresponsibly put on work that remains an ideia. I wish this game was developed by an actual responsible team, it would be such a great game.
So they finally find out the porblem which has been hold for a year
Most games I've played were boosted survivors as survivor, except for one game where a GF brought a Mori and proceeded to get genrushed and got one hook after 5 gens. I might have contributed to the torture with a Flashbang save
Everyone get ready for another 2 years of this shit until the devs surprisingly listen to us and take out sbmm
3:51 Hexy is bumping into Claudette right here lol
I don’t even feel mmr, my matches have always been sweaty.
What's funny is these streamers are in games they supposed to be in if they are that good like oz. Like the saying goes it's fun when u win but it sux when u lose
Stopped playing a few months ago, best decision I've made in awhile.
I can’t believe Henchman 24 faked his death to play Dead by Daylight on stream
They should still fix sbmm but Its needed so Noobs don't go against pros.
tbh, this isnt mmr's fault. its the games balance. the game was alaways like this, we just never were matched against / with good players, now yall see the games actual problems and blame the system like it made these people do this
good players complaining that they will have to play against good players
how does that make any sense
Some of these are streamers making awful decisions too. Like they go into the match expecting it to be awful.
They go into the match expecting to shit on the killer/survivor, now they’re all mad that SBMM is ending that.
@@EricDidntDoIt they go in expecting something different every match, meme builds, no perks, etc... MMR takes that way as for survivors or killers think they NEED to run strong builds. No one is thinking "oh my god imma pop in a match and shit on everyone." They want something different, perks, survivor/killer skills, and etc...
So you are mad streamers literally know what to expect? If you play good you are going up against sweats even on a low rank.
@@EricDidntDoIt🤡🤡🤡💩💩
my friend playing dbd again and he hated the game before, when he tried it again this year, he is a killer main and my friend first game with killer and it was full of red ranks, he still hates the game but dosent depise it
Farmer John was by far one of the whiniest DBD streamers I've encountered, even before SBMM was implemented.
Red rank just isn’t the same anymore
4:36 nahhhhhhhh bruh hexy didnt have to cook bro like that LMAO
I'm not joking when I saw that 7 out of 8 games I played survivors who either brought keys or brought plunderers with the best perks. Playing killer is just not fun anymore.
Before people say they are babies, people are just all having to try super super hard every game over and over against the same killers and same perks and toxic survivors, sure the game was already like that but it's no fun when it's constant sweat fests just for nothing at all. We all miss the fun
*nerfs killers which makes playing as killer unfun
*killers play in unfun ways to actually win for once
*game becomes boring and repetitive
*game loses more players
*new op licensed killer gets released and players spike
[rinse and repeat]
Semi-decent people who only like to play against lower skilled players to feel like pros.
This game is boring ASF for survivor rn. Every SINGLE GAME I go against tunneling, camping, proxy camping killers and I no longer have fun in this game. It’s boring as shit!
Update: the game is somehow getting better but very slowly
SBMM will ironically be the death of DBD
Here’s to hoping
They should just make a Casual Mode and a ranked mode so you can sweat it out.
killer main here.... I mean survivor main
(I had over 1k hours on killer and now Im a survivor main and I dont mind it)
although I do agree I miss the old times when the killers and survivors were randomly bad
Same
As a killer main, I've been have NOTHING but Sweat Fest. I have 700 hours as killer and I'm struggling to get out of Ash Level. They need to scrap this crap and FIX THE GAMES BUGS
hexy a grown ass man crying like that 🤣🤣🤣
Another game plagued with the SBMM curse.
swf problem is bigger than SBMM
@@王小倫-r1i swf is not a problem
I have played dbd for 4 years. This finally pushed me to remove it from my library permanently.
The funny thing about this video is annoying survivors are being linked with annoying killers and suddenly neither side enjoys the game anymore haha. They’d rather bully weaker players for fun lol
as a survivor u only get potato teammates and a tunneling , camping killer , wich leads to me dying early wich leads to even worse teammates and killers and as a killer the matches are 50/50.
50% of the time i get 3 gens are done before i even see the first person
and the other 50% i get potato squads
Same, its all I get. i don't care about what the killer does, there are ways to combat that but if your survivor team of randos are bad then only two things will happen, you'll either die carrying the team or you let everyone die to wait for hatch. That's literally your two options every game which is not fun at all. That's been my games since sbmm has been implemented and its boring.
I saw a comment the other day that I thought was interesting.
"the individuals tilted by the MMR are tilted because they've been boosted to levels they can't play at."
And while I'm not inclined to agree with that, I will say a shocking amount of players, both survivor and killer are sore losers, and a huge chunk of the community acts like children if they don't get the win.
It’s not about winning
It’s about having fun
Lmao so if I am ash 4 killer and getting matched against 4 iridescent ranks then I am boosted?
SBMM destroy every game
I've always played for 12 hooks max amount of points. I don't think my mmr is that's high cause of that but the only way I can win is if I can tunnel slug etc. But that's boring as shit for both sides. What I noticed since mmr is that everytime I try to get to a gen the survivors are already holding shift w. The starts to games are atrocious
Just like angrypug I love it when everyone cries about a VIDEO GAME oh and angrypug is trash anyways so if he left DBD It wouldn’t matter and hexy wow I’ve never heard of him until these videos if he’s getting outplayed by actually good players (survivors) that speaks volumes about him in this game all I saw was him getting ran (bitched about it) then when he got a down he celebrated like he’s actually good lol this whole video made me happy
game lasting 5 minutes is a problem because it takes 5 minutes to get into a game
Their Mmr at the game called complaining like a b is sure super high. The game has been like this for everyone else for ages and since now they are the one dealing with the bs its so important
Or you're just so low in ranking that you don't notice nor is either one our opinions as important as someone playing the game for a living.
SBMM is trash, no matter what game it touches. I have yet to see a current gen game with a decent SBMM implemented.
@@Leviathan_Art ou opinions as players matter as much as people who play this game for a living. Are you dumb ?. Also your agument of people being low mmr is usually the argument of people of low mmr LOL and i can tell that after reviewing your gameplay dear sir.
@@shard135 the issue is that people either get awful teammates and you all die with no gens done because you can only do so much, or you die to a camper in high mmr or the same three killers, sure it was like that before but now there is no balance, before you got random games. Now it's either impossible low mmr hell or impossible high mmr hell
I think dbd would benefit from a comp. and casual playlist. Want to go for the ranking bp? Go comp. Wanna goof off and dick around? Go casual. Obviously it's not that simple but at least keeping those 2 separate would be a start.
5:30
otz: everyone running ds
also otz: has ds equipped
??????
So if something is overpowered you can't use said thing? What kinda ass logic is that
@@ryokiritani4187 the thing is that he complained about it and he had it equipped at the same time. and ds really isnt overpowered. what kind ass logic is that
@@johny_xdare u slow?
@@AmaAndZing 2 year old comment broski
The game was designed to hover around 2 kills 2 escapes per game. They are only whining because they cant do 50 game winstreaks anymore. It was fun when you could +3k for 50 games in a row, imagine how the players facing you felt? Hilarious how they are all crying now that the game is balanced around 2/2
couldnt have said it better myself lol.
Late to the party here (algorithim brought me to your channel and I found myself here 😁) and my experience with surv isn't too bad. in fact, since the middle of November I have been tracking my surv games and my survival rate is at approximately 50%. This tells me that I am at the right MMR level.
My killer games are a different story. Yes I'm a surv main but I loved the occasional Wraifu, HagBae and Freddie games. Quite frankly I was not very good at it. I wasn't good at mindgames etc. So after I got rank 1 for the achievement I would deliberately keep myself at purple/green ranks so that I could enjoy playing my bootiful HagBae. I think this pushed my MMR with her (and Wraifu) to be quite high and I just cannot play killer anymore without surv tryhards. I used to call myself a Hag main but I don't think I'm allowed to do that anymore 😥 EDIT: I just can't play against decent survivors - not neccesarily tryhards.
For context, my usual surv build is Live Forever, Kindred, Borrowed and Dead Hard (outside of rift challenges) - I like to think I'm not TOO tryhard for anyone whoi jumps on my statement regarding playing killer lol. Maybe I just never had the stomach for playing killer. A shame really because I won't even go for killer adepts anymore.
I just want killer to be fun again.
EDIT: Can't wait to see the rest of the videos. And also I am probably in the "surv-main-minority" that reckons Boons should be nerfed. 1 use. Done.Killers have enough to be getting on with without that.
I actually like the sbmm
It sounds like people are just complaining because they want games to be handed to them. As someone that solo queues as a survivor and is used to bad games, I think everyone should just grow a pair. The community states that survivors have it easiest when BHVR’s data showed that at high ranks killers were dominating mostly all their games. Now that SBMM is on everyone is complaining because they aren’t getting 4k’s? Take your entitlement and go then.
I don’t want to play the same 3 killers with the same 4 perks. I enjoy a variety and SBMM is basically punishing me for wanting to have fun. Every game is just sweaty SWF after SWF, map offering after map offering. I played haddonfield SIX TIMES IN A ROW while I was trying. To burn bloodpoint offerings. The game isn’t fun as killer anymore
Funny part about this game is the devs don't give a shit about what we gotta say about it. I started playing this game and loved it, but now SBMM has me raging and not feeling the same about the game like I used to. All the devs care about is getting paychecks from the stuff they launch
Survivors have been easier than playing killer for long time
SBMM is just making more people focus on this problem.
"I refuse to sweat every single match" hmm.. maybe become a better killer then?
SKILL BASED means you get survivors that match your skill. Of course you get sweaty, try-hard games. If you want easy 4k´s make a smurf.
What´s wrong with people...
And don´t @ me, I know the system isnt 100% working as intended.
i think you've completely missed the point that it's not about wanting easy wins. it's about wanting to be able to relax and play a casual game and not get rinsed in 4 minutes because you didn't bring 3 gen slowdown perks. so if you want to actually play the game, you have to run the perks that are already stagnating the game. nobody wants to play with or against ruin, undying, corrupt, tinkerer every single game. and nobody wants to play with or against ds, unbreakable, dh, bt every single game. it's boring. they're trying to balance their game as if it was made to be an in depth esport and not a casual game.
The pain otz feel is something i can relate to and as a killer main Tbh its not fun to feel that you need to sweat every singel game so in the end dbd has just stopet being fun
yeah... now I literally play survivor unless its for an easy challenge mmr is so shit
I think I’ve had some of my favourite matches during SBMM, sometimes they survivors or the killer make it difficult and sometimes we all have a fun game and screw around at the end when the game is obviously over, But all the games I personally have had, have been pretty entertaining
Jesus christ that Hexy guy is so fucking toxic. And that had nothing to do with SBMM, he was just not doing well form the clips you showed. He missed his shots, and wasted his perks. Thats just him being bad