I am using similar approach (and some other items like L Theanine) L Tryptophan agrees with me better than 5HTP but Amino acid therapies are the way to go to help while getting off...Julia Ross' book the Mood Cure is fantastic a must read if you want to get off meds and really just if you want to feel better and stay away from the Dr.
I made a little list of supplements that the Doctor talks about in the video here : Amino acid (supplement to build serotonine like “SeroPlus” from “Pure Encapsulations” or other brand), vitamins, minerals, gastro intestinal support (probiotics), essential fatty acid, antioxidants (essential oils or smoothies), anti-inflammatories, detoxification (not at the begining, but later in the treatment).
Very helpful! I tried to come off of fluoxetine and got panic attacks/ anxiety. It was so bad I went back on it. I thought I was going to have a heart attack. I will try your suggestions and try again 🤞🏽
@@judymahabir899you need to go very slowly. Maybe only 3% reductions and then hold a few weeks etc. Can be a couple of years or more to get off. I have a family member we thought 2 years could be off but I think it’s going to take 3 years. The last 5 mg will be the hardest from what I’m learning .
I'm also wandering how you are? A week off SSRIS and I'm so teary, having nightmares. Started 5htp along with some supplements. I'm not sure if I can do this. I've stopped before and had to go back on. Blessings to all
Cymbalta withdrawal is horrible. I have found the only thing that helped me was Ginger Root. I also took Vitamin B 12. However Ginger Root was a Game changer almost immediately. I'm coming off of Cymbalta and Welbuten at the same time. . Withdrawal symptoms feel exactly like sea sickness/ motion sickness. I felt relief within 30 minutes.. Let me know if this helped you? Ginger Root . You will thank me.
Thank you for this information. I have subscribed and will go to your web page to get more information on how to finish weaning off with as few withdrawal symptoms as possible. I currently am trying to get off Paxil. It has been very Hard... I've been on it for 24 years! I want to succeed and be done with this drug. Doctors should tell you before you even take your first dose that it is difficult to get off these drugs once on them.
Paroxetine/Paxil affects the serotonin, norepinephrine reuptake pump and also the muscarinic receptors powerfully. It is one of the most difficult SSRIs to taper off, because it works on more than just the serotonin reuptake pump.
@@alicewleemdWhat would be my best strategy for getting off of it? Right now I'm having difficulty and my nervous system is all out of wack as is my digestion.
Oh my goodness, I could not take that proxitine HCl paxzil it made me very ill alot of side effects the one that was disturbing was extremely panic anxiety and running on e with no appetite what so ever it did help like with energy but I'm not willing to go through loss of extreme weight and no appetite to eat food while running on e no way , and to much adverse effects I was on it less than a week and stop asap not for me , I do have some withdrawals very little though , I was taking 10mg then half to 5 mg just in case my body rejects it and it did , worse worse never will I take that crap again , I do take antianxiety med it does help some but the ingredients for all meds have changed they don't work like they use to , I hope you recover soon
Wonderful, thank you! Wish I was in your state, no Holistic Psychiatrists in NM. Well, there is one that calls himself that but he only uses pharmaceuticals & a psychedelic therapy of some sort. I'll be tapering my 5mg ssri after I finish tapering clonazepam (.165mg) & will be checking your website!
Looking at these comments it’s frighten how dangerous these antidepressants are. I’m beginning to think that they cause permanent brain damage when you eventually get off them. Also, the withdrawal seams never ending 😢
I had a 5 minute talk with a psychologist and he prescribed me luxepro - probably misspelled. I declined after some research. Did more research and found l- tyrosine and 5-htp . It has been great
Are you familiar with Trintellix? Been off from this SSRI for 2 weeks. I use L-theanine, St. Johns wort, B-Compkex, magnesium, passion flower. With these I didn't have any withdrawal symptoms.
Doc you are amazing, I have taken seraplus by pure encapsulation that you recommend and did not find it as best substitute to get off SSRI(Prozac).. what is the best thing to do for the people that have tried 5-http, Sam-e, l tyrosine, l -tryptophan, fish oil, radiola rozea, ashwganda, ginseng etc and still did not get any result ? I have tried a lot of things and I never find a good natural remedy that helped me.. I heard that you can test your neurotransmitters level at naturopathic doctors clinic, is that true? Have heard of deplin , does it work beter than SSRI?
I took duloxetine for 2 years after diagnosis of fybromialgia and depression (every other desease has been cut off after many examinations). I was supposed to have this therapy for 6 months, as my original GP said. I am living abroad, and here only psychiatrists can prescribe such meds. Covid came and doctor suggested to keep duloxetine for more. Then, when I asked for suggestion regarding starting to decrease the dose, he made me go off 30 mg cold Turkey on December. I started to feel in a nightmare again with all the possible withdrawals, mentally and physically. Now I am starting a natural/homeopathic therapy prescribed by a valuable doctor in my city, who said that antidepressants and their being cut in a sudden put my body in a high acidosis, so I need to alcalinise it. I hope I will solve all of this.
I took that for over 15 years , I tried twice to take again oh I was so ill adverse side effects it's not worth it to me to feel like that when a med is supposed to help you feel better not make you feel worse my body rejects cymbala celexza im allergic too almost killed me,, paxzil can't take , they changed all ingredients in the meds I think back in 2016 research it , it's not the same anymore,
Please make one... I'm on EFFEXOR CLONAZEPAM AND TOPIRAMATE since last 6 years... Your video will be highly Highly highly appreciated in divine terms...
I am in the midst of withdrawing from Prozac and have been looking at natural supplements. You are the only person I have come across so far that truly feels genuine. What are your thoughts on L-Glutamine? I have also bought some 5-HTP too but not sure where to start of whether I should start taking either one as I feel so terrible at the moment 🙁
I feel terible after even two years of stoping it I felt terrible musle weakness and trmors can you suggest any thing in dire need as nobody here understands and i dont want to go back on anti depressants. Should I start talking HTP? Will my muscle weakness and tremors go away?
I am bearly survivng i am pretty much disfunctional i cant go out i cant talk with people caus ewhen i do my brain get exhausted and i feel like i d pass out. I am really worried and even more depress i dont know what to do. I feel severe fatigue from few days now and cant move around. I lay down all day long.
Hi there, i've been on lexapro for years and have weaned down to 5 mg from the maximum dose of 20. Getting off of the last 5 mg feels terrible as i've been off of it for about 5 days. I took my first dose of seroplus (1 capsule) today and the relief washed over me like a warm blanket. It's great so far. I fully understand everyone is different, but is there a ballpark range of time you'd recommend staying on the seroplus? I'm an active person, eat as clean as i can, sleep is terrible, but i am taking vitamins (a little info about my routine).
To anyone who's curious, i took it for about a month then noticed the symptoms were manageable without it. However, i was also taking: B comlex (pure) 1000 mg of methylfolate (thorne) Zinc (pure) Vitamin D (pure) Vitamin C (ester c) Epa/dha oil (pure) Magnesium glycinate but going to start taurate instead (nootropics depot) Bacopa monnieri for serotonin upregulation (nootropics depot) Cordyceps for dopamine upregulation (nootropics depot) I also take 200 mg of lamictal for bipolar2, 25 mg of metoprolol for SVT and .25-.5 mg xanax as needed. I highly recommend the stack i provided (minus the scrips of course). If you respond well to the bacopa and cordyceps it's a very good combo for the SSRI problem. The seroplus is good too, i take it sometimes
Hope you know the Bipolar Disorder comes from the use of antidepressants or rapid withdrawal from these drugs - the BIGGEST CAUSE OF BIPOLAR ON PLANET EARTH!!! They even have a diagnosis of "Antidepressant Withdrawal Mania".
I wish I’d known this!😫my psych had me drop 5 mgs every two weeks from 40 last spring. I had a great life on it with no side effects. I’m 8 months off and and in very bad shape…. Would adding a different SSRI help or should I just keep trying to cope? I’ve lost 55#s, can’t sleep, nervous system on high, mind filled 24/7 with thoughts and research on all of this :/
Thank you for making these videos! Can you do one on some of the supplements and energy medicine you use to help people taper off antipsychotics like Seroquel and Zyprexa?
I want to get off Effexor after over 10 years. I’m on lowest dose, 37.5 mg, it if I miss a dose, I become light headed and nauseous. Doc recommended weaning off using 5 htp as a bridge. I’m praying that it will work. Wish I had never gone on it. I didn’t know this would happen.
@@vinithtpr4297 I haven’t begun the process yet. Just haven’t been up for it. Too much going on in my life. I will update when I do. Thanks for asking.
Hi Doctor, and thank you for your great information. I really need to ask you something. I have Generalized Anxiety, 2 years follow up with psychiatrist. I’m on Valdoxan(Agomelatine) 50mg/on now. It did helped me in reducing the physical symptom of my anxiety, but somehow it didn’t helped with my emotion and overthinking. So, I bought a probiotic (my family forced me to take supplement and the pharmacist convinced me that probiotic helps with anxiety). But, I’m not planning to stop my Valdoxan at all. Can I take both of them? Antidepressant+Probiotic? And how about Multivitamin? I want to cry cause I can’t wait until next appointment in 2 months and ask my doctor.. 😭😭😭 Additional: I experience GERD and I don’t eat vegetables. 😔
It depends on the quality of the probiotics and multivitamins. A good probiotic is quite safe in general. Perque Digesta Guard Forte 10 should be fine. Another helpful product I have used with good benefits for many patients is a liquid supplement called Ion Gut Health by Ionbiome.com. If you have problems with your GI system, a liquid supplement may be more easily absorbed: Brainchild Spectrum Support Minerals and Brainchild Spectrum Support II Vitamins Lemon Lime flavored. if you don't eat vegetables, then it may be helpful to have some smoothies that allow you to absorb nutrients more easily. Good luck.
Holistic Psychiatrist I see. Cause there are many information about life threatening and toxic multivitamins in the internet, that’s why I got worried so much. And smoothie, why I never thought about it.. a very good idea. Thank you so much Doctor for your help! I really appreciate it.. 🙏🏼♥️
I’m trying to come off 15 mg mirtazapine. Worst mistake of my life taking these and have never been so depressed and scared. I’ve started making my pills into a liquid so I can lower 10% a month accurately. I’ve tried cutting pills faster and have scarred myself emotionally. I’m afraid I will never feel like myself again, I haven’t felt good in two years. At time have lost the will to live. I was not like this before taking this drug so I keep reminding myself this is not me. I will try these supplements thank you. Where do I buy them?🙏
I am in the same situation. Even tough I have good knowledge in medicine and holistic healing, I had no clue what I sumbled into. How are you doing in the meantime?
@@martin4702 I am feeling better lately as I’ve gotten lower, I am scared to come all the way off and possibly have rebound insomnia, but I’m almost off! Scariest most horrible thing I’ve ever been through , and couldn’t have made it without the online community giving me more advice and life saving tips then actual “doctors”
@@allisonchainz82 hi Allison Thank you a lot for reply.❤️❤️ I am also on 15 mg! My story goes like this: I was on on mirtazapine for about 3 years I was first on 45 than gradually I went to 30, than to 15. I was on 15 for about nine months. I had no issues coming down from 45 to 15 none whatsoever. I was in 15 for about 9 months and back in August of 2021 I started tapering using water. I went from 15 to 0 in four months. Again, with no issues in those 4 months. I was fine for another 3 months after taper. Than in March I plummeted over night in extreme anxiety depression and insomnia. I went back to 15 mg of Mirtazapine thinking I went too fast. What are your main symptoms coming off this drug? How long it took you to come down to 1 mg? Thank you
First, thank you for this video! I especially found it helpful when you described the hyper sensitivity effect. You also mentioned that you can get very sick in about 3 month's time after lowering the dose (too fast); this has happened to me, and then it happened again at 6 months. Do you know why this happens, why are the symptoms so delayed? And how can I predict if these difficult symptoms are coming in 3-6 months, if at the beginning of the tapering I actually might feel a bit better?
These are good questions. The short answer to your question is that many things are happening beneath your ability to notice at the symptom level. You might notice when you crash metabolically, but long before that (over three months?) the body has been frantically trying to support you.
The delay in the worst of the withdrawal is because these drugs accumulate at amazing amounts within the brain & are 98% protein binding. So they are being held in the system by complex proteins. Therefore the best diet during or after the use of antidepressants is a Vegan diet heavy in fresh fruit & veggies which have very simple proteins because you do not want those protein clumps (Lewy Bodies) to build up in the brain ending in the REM Sleep Disorder as it did for Robin Williams & ending in his death as he acted out his worst nightmare in a sleep state. You should also avoid anything that will increase serotonin, like 5HTP or St. John's Wort, because the drugs have inhibited your ability to metabolize serotonin. You have to work on rebuilding your ability to metabolize serotonin. I have been assisting those withdrawing from these drugs for 30+ years.
Thank you very much for this video. I would like to ask whether i can combine a 25mg zoloft titration dose with a 5thp and vitamin b supplementation protocol considering an 8 hour interval between them?
Hi. I’ve been on Zoloft for about 7-8 years for anxiety. It’s been at 50 mgs for most of the time (25 for a few years). Lately I’ve been wanting to get off of it but I’m really really scared. I’m doing good at handling my anxiety now, but I’m scared it’s going to come back. I’m also scared about the withdrawal symptoms. What if I can’t handle it, and what if the symptoms cause my anxiety to flare up badly again and get really bad panic attacks? I want to be able to live my life without the meds, but the process to getting there is terrifying me. Even if I forget to take my pill for one day I find myself feeling super dizzy the whole day until I get my next dose. That leads me to believe that the whole process will be super rough. Also, will my personality change and will I act differently once I get off it?
Experience with benzodiazepine withdrawal on top of anti-depressant withdrawal? my doctor abruptly stopped both of them and it has been almost 3 years and I am still suffering with extreme morning anxiety Akathisia doom and terror have brain fog and fatigue really bad with Anhedonia. I have been having issues trying supplements my nervous system seems raw.
I took prozac 10mg for 3 days. First day I was okay but couldn't really sleep. Day 2 and 3 got really really bad with my anxiety. I haven't slept good and woke up in a panic last night. I feel so much worst than before meds. I have klonopin 0.25mg to help with panic attacks but I feel like im losing my mind now. Is it okay to stop cold turkey after 3 days? Is it possible to still deal with withdrawal symptoms? What should I do to ease things. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Im really drowning with worry and have no support.
I have been off Paxil for about 1 year and 3 months, took it for maybe 2.5 years 20mg. My back has been very tight and painful since I quit. I did cut down to 5 MG over the course of a m9nth or so. Have been going to a chiropractor and gett8ng massages, tylen9l and muscle relaxers. Two days ago I started to take 10 MG of prozac hoping it would help, start8ng to think maybe not a good idea. My back does feel a bit better in 2 days.
Hello, I'm currently tapering off zoloft (my original dose was 50mg) going with 5 mg per week (I think this is pretty abrupt) and I was feeling alright in doing that with my wellbutrin xl 300 mg. However recently I have been experiencing brain fog as well as emotional blunting and I was wondering for zoloft withdrawal what supplements would be appropriate? Thank you, and I hope to hear from you soon.
Hello and thank you ! I have been on Cymbalta 60 mg for 6 years. I am being weaned at 60 mg every other day. Seems a bit quick ? Would you consider 60-30-60-30 etc. I am on day 7. Brain zaps, dizziness, I feel like I am not real, I am very irritable and I can’t sleep. Should this last a while ?
Yes, it is too fast. Even with supplement preparation, I go with a few beads within a capsule every few days. Cymbalta is very difficult to come off of without professional help. So, please find an integrative psychiatrist to help you through this process. Good luck.
I've been off benzos for 27.5 months. I've dealt with suicidal ideation, homicidal ideation, burning nerves all over my body but mostly in my face and legs, insomnia, DR/DP, complete emotional detachment and anger toward my family, and vision issues. How can a person fix this?
Doctor I am profoundly grateful for the blessing of finding your channel. I will reach out over your website soon, your knowledge could potentially save my life. Please clarify something for me: would it be a bad idea to microdose psilocybin while on a SSRI tapering regimen? I'm aware there's no scientific data on the topic, but I'm hoping your experience and intuition could provide some interesting insights.
@@dreamznaspiratons7064 Dear onyx, i did 3 years ago when I was tappering off both Venlafaxine AND Benzodiazepine at the same time.(big mistake). It did help for anxiety 👍, but not for depression. This time, I'm of Antidepressants(1 month in), am not anxious just extremely depressed and fisicaly weak. So I don't think it would be helpful, and it is very expensive in my country (Croatia, Europe).
When i stopt with my paroxetine.after 30 years!!i had terrible withdrawl symptoms But after 4 months i got diverculitis really bad en now after 4 years i still have very painful stomick and gut pains Is it true that youre bowls are very much conected to youre brains ?...
It's bad stuff , I took the HCl proxatine 10 mg never again that crap made me seriously ill and run on e with no appetite I developed an infection too , so darn nauseous it is not worth the suffering to feel better when it's supposed to help you , I had extremely up anxiety and panic attacks heart raced high for awhile could not sit still and then my heart rate drop low blood pressure no thanks headaches jaw pain , eye swollen, shaky , worse than buying 10 Starbucks coffee with extra expresso , made my hands burn inside um no , I can't take this crap anymore ever again I do have some little withdrawals though not near as bad when I was taking it less than a week got off that and had infection to get treated nope not for me,
What do you recommend to help cold turkey withdrawal of benzos prescribed without warning for 29 years, taken as directed until i stopped? I'd requested to stop and doctor told me to "just stop!" Im 44 months out and still miserable, hypersensitive to everything, no joy, personality has completely changed. Very high anxiety. Newly diagnosed with "idiopathic small fiber peripheral polyneuropathy" Please let me know if you have a suggestion! 🙏
Do you have the answer to why depression takes over in the first place it's definitely an inner brain thing, I felt like there was a creature crawling around in my head when I was very depressed and scared from it cos it kept me awake at night What mineral or vitamin or oils are you speaking about because these products are all brand names I have spirinula? I have 5htp? I have the multivitamin for hair and nails
A lot of great information she shares in this video. Also, check out a book called The Mood Cure. Our daily diet, minerals, amino acids, and many different things affect our mood. Also look up L-tryptophan which is very similar to 5-HTP, I've been learning about and working with different supplements to help me get off of SSRIs.... it's been a challenge and a learning experience but so far so good. =)
You have to find out whats the reason behind your depression or anxiety. It always stems from an underlying condition like; Low Iron, Low Vitamin D, low B12, Not enough healthy gut bacteria etc. As time passes and it gets worse your body may become deficient in whatever the problem maybe. Because Vitamin D and Iron play a huge role in the functioning of neurotransmitters like Serotonin, and Dopamine.
@@bigmaneastside Medication has sidec effects. I transformed my life a few years back. Develop your mental muscles by reprogramming the mind [brain] and boosting the level of serrotonin and dopamine. . Your breath is directly related to your mind [brain] causing anxiety-stress. For a relaxed life without anxiety-stress sit on a chair, back erect, hands on lap with palms upwards, eyes closed, be still and observe your natural incoming--outgoing breath and body sensations for around 10-15 minutes. Be as still as possible. Many thoughts will come which is ok--slowly negative thoughts will reduce and your mind will relax with no desire for pills. Mind[brain] are reprogrammed. After 1 days of the above meditation daily start reducing dosage, take very alternate day and taper out after 20-25 days. Take only when needed. Best part is mood swings also reduce after daily meditation. . Avoid watching negative tv and mobile shows.. Do the above meditation daily twice without any doubts and enjoy life without medication. Best wishes. Shyaaam Sir. -Counsellor-Teacher.
Hello there, I would love to see a video on supplements you recommend for tapering off SNRI's like Effexor XR. I've tapered down from 150mg to 37.5mg under my doctor but am scared to go from 37.5mg to zero. Any guidance would be appreciated. I would love a consultation with you but as a student cannot afford it at this time. Thank you for making this video!
Its the same, SNRI only bind to norepinephrine at high doses. You can take 5htp or sjw or tryptophan when off effexor. I personally would go for 5htp and or sjw. I have also heard niacin can help alot. Yes the flushing form.
Hello, I hope someone can please answer or comment if they went through similar things as im going thru. I have been tapering down paxil 30mg, I want to be off meds that i have been taking for over 10 years. 2 days ago was my last pill of paxil. The withdrawal symptoms were somehow bearable at first while tapering down. Now its been 2 days meds free, I have none stop severe brain zaps, dizziness, weird eye movement accompanied by sensors disturbance in my head, I cant go out from the house, i constantly need assistance. Im so tired, muscle pain everywhere, crying spells, extreme anxiety and confusion As if im disoriented and disassociate from my entourage. I am ready to push through but did anyone get it and got better after ? I am not sure how long will i be able to handle this, please someone tell me they went thru this and it will go away in some time and i will be better. Do you recommend starting 5htp now ?
I went through horrible horrific adverse side effects from proxitine HCl never again will I ever take that crap , I was on it less than one week cold turkey to save my life , I developed an infection too , not good , it was a small dose 10 mg to 5mg in case if I had to take myself off it , I do however have gad I take an anti anxiety med to help with those withdrawals at a small dose , it does help though alot better than celeza it almost killed me , cymbala was on over 15 can not take that , alot of side effects, now paxzil HCl no way , never again ,
It will get better though, change your habits and eating and such , I believe it will get better for you and me too like others , the pharmkeya has changed it's all ingredients in all medicines seems like more side adverse effects than helping the chemical imbalance
Thank you for this. Wish I had known about it before weaning off. Could you tell me what could help now with the withdrawal symptoms? I was taking cymbalta 60 mg for 2years or so, felt to stopped working. So transitioned to Pristiq to 50 mg for 2 months but decided to weaned off medication all together. Dr weaned me off Pristiq first 2 weeks on 50mg then second 2 weeks 25mg each day. I’m on my second week of no medication anymore and I’m having all withdrawal symptoms , it’s debilitating . Please help on how I can get rid of them🙏
It's not a good idea of wean off Cymbalta when it "stops working" because that just means that neurotransmitter levels are so low that the same medication has little effect on the system. You'll need to gradually go back up on your last antidepressant, even if it "didn't work" and start by building both serotonin (SeroPlus) and some helpful catecholamines (use D-phenylalanine 500 mg caps) before you try to lower very slowly. Otherwise, you can cause permanent damage to parts of your body that depend on your serotonin and catecholamine systems. I believe the whole process requires someone with integrative psychiatry expertise to help you through the process.
Please tell me what someone should do when they have gone cold turkey for a month and now experiencing withdrawal symptoms. Gone cold turkey on escitalopram (first 10 mg - for 3.5 years, then 5mg for 3 months till 1 Aug 2024), as of now its been 25 days, experiencing anxiety, irritability, sleep disturbance and low mood, burning sensation only first 1 to 2 hours after waking up, no brain zaps or balance issues. What should I do? Should I brave through with supplements or should I reintroduce and do slow taper, afraid of paradoxical reactions but withdrawal symptoms are horrible. If I reintroduce at what dose? If supplements, which supplements?
I am currently withdrawing from Effexor, horrendous. I’ve found a supplement called Cogniblast. I Googled nootropics and found this was a new one. Has helped me HUGELY! 100% agree, supplement make a big difference, especially to brain zaps. I’m in Australia but I get it from America.
My son cannot have b12 or anything that give him energy he become irritable . He use to be in depokope for 8 years he going through withdrawal and I have been giving him vitamin mineral but he still suffering . What can you recommend .
Can you suggest anything for thus throb like feeling in my body and a slight tremor which do get wors times since I stop talking my lexa pro from a total of 20 mg I used for about 3 years and now i have been off them for about 2 years still feel lethargic and vertigo and heart beat irregularities. But thus throb is the worst that i feel in my body specialy when I sleep.
My prozac start doing me huge problems, so from 70mg i need to stop taking, because of convulsion..so i am just on lamictal..i dont take l-trypthophan because i get tick..:(
Great video thank you! My situation is a bit different. I have been on Wellbutrin xl 300mg for about two years, tomorrow I will start taking xl 150mg to tapper off. I have heard great things about ashwagandha and I actually plan on starting it soon, could it help with the potential withdrawal symptoms?
The withdrawal symptoms would be the underlying causes plus the neurotransmitter levels associated with Wellbutrin. With Wellbutrin, I often use D-phenylalanine 500 mg by Montiff or Dr.'s Best and SeroPlus by Pure Encapsulations to support its mix of receptors and neurotransmitters. However, it's tricky, so you should have a doctor follow you closely.
@@alicewleemd Hi. Would these also work for Venlafaxine as both are Snri's? (If I remember correctly). And can we use it DURING withdrawal, or only AFTER, when we are completely off? Thank you.
I found getting off Wellbutrin XL quite easy and had no withdrawal symptoms. I went to a compounding pharmacy and dropped 10% every 6 weeks. The difficult one has been Effexor XR. Was on it for 15 years. Started at 75 mg, 10% drop every 6 weeks. Once I got to 45 mg, I started to get depressed. I can sleep up to 15 hours a day and have no motivation. I’m 75 years of age. I have started taking Hi-potency B vitamins and Omega 3. I will also add a mineral supplement to this. This has to be the worst antidepressant to get off. It’s been tough as I live alone. I feel like all I want is to sleep.
Thank you for the video!! I’m hoping to come off desvenlafaxine soon! But I’m currently trying to come off topiramate 150mg, do you have any supplement/nutritional advice and support that I should be doing in conjunction with that withdrawal? Thanks in advance
You should study the pharmacology of Topiramate in Wikipedia and have a doctor help you with that. Its pharmacology is complex. I think you might find the withdrawals very difficult without an experienced holistic or integrative psychiatrist.
What supplements would you recommend for Antipsychotics? I’m taking Niacin right now after having tolerance withdrawal from antipsychotics, will the Niacin allow my down-regulated/super-sensitized receptors to heal or will it interrupt the healing process?
It's too complicated to explain how to help you reduce an antipsychotic, but I have articles on my website on this topic. Just put "antipsychotic" on the search bar, and a bunch of articles will show up.
Hello there, I am almost 6 weeks into my second pregnancy. Would these supplements be safe to take? I am currently experiencing SSRI discontinuation and am struggling. Thank you.
Question I have been 7 years completely Sertraline free and don’t take any other drugs and still suffer with protracted withdrawal syndrome. Any help would be appreciated
@@DomBaconMusic I get an aweful lot of adrenaline surges as well as wonky brain with memory lapse. Depression in overdrive and can’t stop doing anything ….constant business
I was wondering if you have done a video on SNRI withdrawals? I'm 2.5 weeks off Venlafaxine and even though I tapered slowly enough and stopped at 12.5mg, I feel miserable for numerous reasons.. I tried bridging the gap with Zoloft and stopped after 6 days of 25mg.
Hello Doctor I have been on 20mg Celexa for 12 years for anxiety and some depression. I am wanting to start tapering off. Have you ever used products from the Pain and Stress center? Many thanks to you for your videos. God Bless
Hi are you suggesting it’s ok to take 5-htp while tapering ssri medication? I’m currently down to 5mg lexapro I tapered from 10 mg every other day to 5mg every day and finding it hard . To me it makes sense to supplement with 5-htp but have been warned about mixing the two because of serotonin syndrome which can be dangerous apparently?!
She said to start with 50 mg 5htp for 2 weeks then go up to 100 mg 5htp for 2 weeks then start your tapering ssri. Its near the beginning of this video when she is talking about the vitamins.
What about Pure Encapsulations Emotional Wellness supplement? Is it any better than Seroplus? I see that it also has 5htp and other ingredients for stress, but it is almost double the price of Seroplus. Just curious if you had any knowledge of that product?
Have a big question. I am having great difficulty with withdrawal symptoms of Paxil. Wish I had seen this video first. I have been suffering for a long time. 2 years. I am now at about 1.5 mg Paxil and I feel so awful… how can I feel better at this stage and finish what I started? Plz help me 🙏🏼 Should I not be detoxing at this point? A nutritionist has me doing a detox. To heal my stomach but I am feeling unwell a a lot of times.
I have quit taking 100 mg Zoloft 19 days ago. I feel the “brain zaps” and almost constant dizziness. I’m scared to go back on the meds to taper down because I’m afraid of going through the beginning of the withdrawal process again. Can I just start taking the seroplus to help with the withdrawal without starting the Zoloft again?
I've tried to do it that way, but it doesn't work very well. Perhaps it's because it takes time to build serotonin, and Zoloft withdrawal can seriously undermine your GI system, which will have ramifications for the rest of your physical health. If you stopped cold turkey, then the GI system loses function suddenly. I'd advise you to go back on the Zoloft, take time to stabilize and build serotonin, and then lower it properly. Otherwise, you could damage your body with the amount of oxidative stress and inflammation that are triggered by the withdrawal process.
I haven’t had an GI issues at all, just dizziness, brain zaps, irritability, and insomnia really. But I’m sleeping better recently. The dizziness is almost constant though. I don’t think I can convince myself to go back on to taper, I was so scared of serotonin syndrome while I was sick. My dr had told me to stop taking it. She didn’t even mention tapering. I didn’t even know that was a thing 😞
I’ve recently stop taking mirtazapine cold turkey due to lexapro causing too much brain fog, I’ve been withdrawing for over a month. The biggest problem is I cannot hold any food down and I am always nauseated, any advice ?
I am also trying to come Off mirtazapine, biggest nightmare of my life. I am making my pills into a liquid and trying to lower 10% a month. My doctor doesn’t believe in withdrawal and says it is rare. I am very sad and hopeless and will try the suggestions in this video. Good luck on your withdrawal journey, I just keep telling myself time heals
@@allisonchainz82 yes time heals ! Both my psychiatrist and doctor told me it must something other than withdrawal ! But here I am two months later and I’m completely fine like nothing happened ! Time really is your best friend and I hope your journey becomes easier !
I didn't get it. Lexapro or mirtazapine was causing the fog? Or both? I have same issues. Crazy brain fog. I am on high cymbalta dosage and coming off of olanzapine
@@billtheo7476 I was on lexapro and got off cuz of the brain fog ! I couldn’t remember something that I did the day before or sometimes my last sentence ! I was never really mentally there but at least I wasn’t depressed ! Mitrazphime gave me the worst withdraw And I wasn’t on it longer than like two_three months
It may be helpful to use a liquid form of Fluoxetine and gradually come down that way, making sure that you are building sufficient serotonin through supplements about two weeks in advance of the gradual withdrawal. Everyone is different, so I can't be more specific than that.
Sean, get the liquid form prozep. I'm using this. If there is a pharmacist in the practice get hold of them, they may have more knowledge. It's easier to do small redictions with a syringe. I wish I had known about this in 2007 did own clunky taper and went mad. Not knowing it was withdrawal symptoms. As I went back on them I felt better after a while thinking I needed them long term and the withdrawal was my OCD coming back bad. It wasn't. Prozac will change your brain. Slow taper. CEPUK is a good general site. Inner compass initiative. At moment I reduce 0.1ml a week or 2 weeks etc... Put your foot down for this liquid, they may say just cut down one pill, day off, 1 pill, day etc... this is dangerous in my opinion. Unfortunately Dr don't know about exit strategies and the NICE guildelines (I think they're being changed) are too quick etc..
@@cradlecap123 thanks mate this really helped I've not got liquid to start in 2 week I'm thinking of reducing my 1 mg every 4 week what do you think of that? Please reply
@@seanneedham1019 Hi Sean, tnx for message. Good news with liquid. Is it prozep? 20mg is equal to 5ml. 1mg per month = 0.25ml on an oral syringe. Or did you mean 1ml per month? On a pill 20mg dosage a 10% reduction is 18mg. So the liquid equivalent is 0.5ml off 5ml = 4.5ml in the syringe. Reducing is so difficult as any feelings as you drop a dose makes u think it's the 'tapering' when it migth just be a bad day with circumstances. I think when you get lower the reduction might need to be smaller as my case. 0.1ml per 2 weeks (roughly). There's also the idea of 10% off the previous dose - ie. 10% 18mg is 1.8mg. Therefore 1.8mg off 18mg equals 16.2mg - However this could send you mad. But I think 10mg and below make the reductions smaller. But it depends on how u feel. Everyone's different. There seems to be some people who metabolise the drug differently therefore there taper is a breeze. I think it also depends on what u r doing. If u r busy and doing something u enjoy with good friends then the focus on yourself if different.
@@cradlecap123 dam thanks fro the reply a long confusing one haha km planning to go from 20 mg pill to 20mg liquid and taper of the liquid by 10% which is 2 mg down every 6 to 8 week are you of it now and how you doing
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As I got off Lexapro I took more and more grapefruit st John's wort and triptophan as I titrated and no withdrawl symptoms. 👍🏼😁
Thank you for this insight.
How long take antidepressants you?
I am using similar approach (and some other items like L Theanine) L Tryptophan agrees with me better than 5HTP but Amino acid therapies are the way to go to help while getting off...Julia Ross' book the Mood Cure is fantastic a must read if you want to get off meds and really just if you want to feel better and stay away from the Dr.
She knows her stuff.. I believe she does consults Her podcasts are very good
Thank you!
I made a little list of supplements that the Doctor talks about in the video here :
Amino acid (supplement to build serotonine like “SeroPlus” from “Pure Encapsulations” or other brand), vitamins, minerals, gastro intestinal support (probiotics), essential fatty acid, antioxidants (essential oils or smoothies), anti-inflammatories, detoxification (not at the begining, but later in the treatment).
Very helpful! I tried to come off of fluoxetine and got panic attacks/ anxiety. It was so bad I went back on it. I thought I was going to have a heart attack. I will try your suggestions and try again 🤞🏽
How did it go?
I'm going through terrible withdrawal symptoms at the moment.
@@judymahabir899Hi you completely off?
@@judymahabir899you need to go very slowly. Maybe only 3% reductions and then hold a few weeks etc. Can be a couple of years or more to get off. I have a family member we thought 2 years could be off but I think it’s going to take 3 years. The last 5 mg will be the hardest from what I’m learning .
I'm also wandering how you are? A week off SSRIS and I'm so teary, having nightmares. Started 5htp along with some supplements. I'm not sure if I can do this. I've stopped before and had to go back on. Blessings to all
Please make a video on procrated withdrawls... Visual snow and nervous disregulation and a ton of other symptoms.
Thank you very much for this information. I've been looking for this kind of info for a while. I figured there were supplements that could help! :)♥
Cymbalta withdrawal is horrible. I have found the only thing that helped me was Ginger Root. I also took Vitamin B 12. However Ginger Root was a Game changer almost immediately. I'm coming off of Cymbalta and Welbuten at the same time. . Withdrawal symptoms feel exactly like sea sickness/ motion sickness. I felt relief within 30 minutes.. Let me know if this helped you? Ginger Root . You will thank me.
Can it also work for paxil ?
Thank you!!
Ginger is good and tumeric and cummin as well and multivitamin gummies and vit d gummies too
How did you consume the ginger root?
Ginger root as a supplement? Or the raw root from the grocery store?
Thank you for this information. I have subscribed and will go to your web page to get more information on how to finish weaning off with as few withdrawal symptoms as possible. I currently am trying to get off Paxil. It has been very Hard... I've been on it for 24 years! I want to succeed and be done with this drug. Doctors should tell you before you even take your first dose that it is difficult to get off these drugs once on them.
Paroxetine/Paxil affects the serotonin, norepinephrine reuptake pump and also the muscarinic receptors powerfully. It is one of the most difficult SSRIs to taper off, because it works on more than just the serotonin reuptake pump.
@@alicewleemdWhat would be my best strategy for getting off of it? Right now I'm having difficulty and my nervous system is all out of wack as is my digestion.
@@MsEvaMarie Did you ever get help? I went off Zoloft a few months ago, am dealing with periodic bouts of depression, hopelessness, & nervousness.
Oh my goodness, I could not take that proxitine HCl paxzil it made me very ill alot of side effects the one that was disturbing was extremely panic anxiety and running on e with no appetite what so ever it did help like with energy but I'm not willing to go through loss of extreme weight and no appetite to eat food while running on e no way , and to much adverse effects I was on it less than a week and stop asap not for me , I do have some withdrawals very little though , I was taking 10mg then half to 5 mg just in case my body rejects it and it did , worse worse never will I take that crap again , I do take antianxiety med it does help some but the ingredients for all meds have changed they don't work like they use to ,
I hope you recover soon
Wonderful, thank you! Wish I was in your state, no Holistic Psychiatrists in NM. Well, there is one that calls himself that but he only uses pharmaceuticals & a psychedelic therapy of some sort. I'll be tapering my 5mg ssri after I finish tapering clonazepam (.165mg) & will be checking your website!
Looking at these comments it’s frighten how dangerous these antidepressants are. I’m beginning to think that they cause permanent brain damage when you eventually get off them. Also, the withdrawal seams never ending 😢
True I’ve had withdrawals for 15 years.
I had a 5 minute talk with a psychologist and he prescribed me luxepro - probably misspelled. I declined after some research. Did more research and found l- tyrosine and 5-htp . It has been great
Thank you so much. I wish I had seen this before I went off antidepressant.
Can you please do a video on procrated withdrawls and suggest some solutions. For those who quit quikly and stay sick for years.thanks you
great message, thanks so much!
Are you familiar with Trintellix? Been off from this SSRI for 2 weeks. I use L-theanine, St. Johns wort, B-Compkex, magnesium, passion flower. With these I didn't have any withdrawal symptoms.
You’re not supposed to take St. John’s wort with any SSRI bc it can cause serotonin syndrome, but glad you didn’t have problems!
All these supplements can be taken together as same time or anytime during day?
@@ecofriendlyhippie he said he’s been off for 2 weeks
@@riosj427 2 weeks is nothing. It can take many months to the body to ajust to a slight drop of an antidepressent.
Thank you for watching!
Doc you are amazing, I have taken seraplus by pure encapsulation that you recommend and did not find it as best substitute to get off SSRI(Prozac).. what is the best thing to do for the people that have tried 5-http, Sam-e, l tyrosine, l -tryptophan, fish oil, radiola rozea, ashwganda, ginseng etc and still did not get any result ? I have tried a lot of things and I never find a good natural remedy that helped me.. I heard that you can test your neurotransmitters level at naturopathic doctors clinic, is that true? Have heard of deplin , does it work beter than SSRI?
I sent a email from timmundt7@gmail.com im seriously hoping and praying I can have the honor of scheduling an appointment with you
I took duloxetine for 2 years after diagnosis of fybromialgia and depression (every other desease has been cut off after many examinations). I was supposed to have this therapy for 6 months, as my original GP said. I am living abroad, and here only psychiatrists can prescribe such meds. Covid came and doctor suggested to keep duloxetine for more. Then, when I asked for suggestion regarding starting to decrease the dose, he made me go off 30 mg cold Turkey on December. I started to feel in a nightmare again with all the possible withdrawals, mentally and physically. Now I am starting a natural/homeopathic therapy prescribed by a valuable doctor in my city, who said that antidepressants and their being cut in a sudden put my body in a high acidosis, so I need to alcalinise it. I hope I will solve all of this.
I wasn't weaned from high dose duloxetine and almost a decade later I still have extremely debilitating brain shocks
What was recommended?
I took that for over 15 years , I tried twice to take again oh I was so ill adverse side effects it's not worth it to me to feel like that when a med is supposed to help you feel better not make you feel worse my body rejects cymbala celexza im allergic too almost killed me,, paxzil can't take , they changed all ingredients in the meds I think back in 2016 research it , it's not the same anymore,
😅
O@@Yellow-oc4sl
Very helpful!
Thank you for this great and informative video! Would this advice also apply if you're titrating down an SNRI such as Effexor?
SNRIs are different and require more support in general.
@@alicewleemd Can you tell me what kind of support SNRI need That would be different from SSRIs
amazing advice doc, i cant thank you enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for appreciating the information and best to your healing journey!
Dr Lee, would it be possible to make a video on best supplements for SNRIs (i.e.Cymbalta) withdrawal and Benzos? So much gratitude 🙏
Good idea. Thanks for your suggestion.
Please make one... I'm on EFFEXOR CLONAZEPAM AND TOPIRAMATE since last 6 years... Your video will be highly Highly highly appreciated in divine terms...
Thank you, I love and use Logosynthesis, excellent video
I am in the midst of withdrawing from Prozac and have been looking at natural supplements. You are the only person I have come across so far that truly feels genuine. What are your thoughts on L-Glutamine? I have also bought some 5-HTP too but not sure where to start of whether I should start taking either one as I feel so terrible at the moment 🙁
The main amino acid for SSRI withdrawals is 5-HTP, the activated version of L-tryptophan. I rarely use L-glutamine in my practice.
I feel terible after even two years of stoping it I felt terrible musle weakness and trmors can you suggest any thing in dire need as nobody here understands and i dont want to go back on anti depressants. Should I start talking HTP? Will my muscle weakness and tremors go away?
@@mariaali7404 same here 2 years! Fatigue anxiety like symptoms how do you manage?
I am bearly survivng i am pretty much disfunctional i cant go out i cant talk with people caus ewhen i do my brain get exhausted and i feel like i d pass out. I am really worried and even more depress i dont know what to do. I feel severe fatigue from few days now and cant move around. I lay down all day long.
@@mariaali7404 tried reinstate Prozac again? Or? Doctores? Saying!
Vit d helps gummys i like , and multi vit gummies as well to help with depression and anxiety hormones too
Thank you for this. I would like to taper off celexa 20 mg and will try this. Been on it too long. Nightmares from it for 10 years!
updates???
Hi there, i've been on lexapro for years and have weaned down to 5 mg from the maximum dose of 20. Getting off of the last 5 mg feels terrible as i've been off of it for about 5 days. I took my first dose of seroplus (1 capsule) today and the relief washed over me like a warm blanket. It's great so far. I fully understand everyone is different, but is there a ballpark range of time you'd recommend staying on the seroplus? I'm an active person, eat as clean as i can, sleep is terrible, but i am taking vitamins (a little info about my routine).
To anyone who's curious, i took it for about a month then noticed the symptoms were manageable without it. However, i was also taking:
B comlex (pure)
1000 mg of methylfolate (thorne)
Zinc (pure)
Vitamin D (pure)
Vitamin C (ester c)
Epa/dha oil (pure)
Magnesium glycinate but going to start taurate instead (nootropics depot)
Bacopa monnieri for serotonin upregulation (nootropics depot)
Cordyceps for dopamine upregulation (nootropics depot)
I also take 200 mg of lamictal for bipolar2, 25 mg of metoprolol for SVT and .25-.5 mg xanax as needed.
I highly recommend the stack i provided (minus the scrips of course).
If you respond well to the bacopa and cordyceps it's a very good combo for the SSRI problem. The seroplus is good too, i take it sometimes
Hope you know the Bipolar Disorder comes from the use of antidepressants or rapid withdrawal from these drugs - the BIGGEST CAUSE OF BIPOLAR ON PLANET EARTH!!! They even have a diagnosis of "Antidepressant Withdrawal Mania".
I wish I’d known this!😫my psych had me drop 5 mgs every two weeks from 40 last spring. I had a great life on it with no side effects. I’m 8 months off and and in very bad shape…. Would adding a different SSRI help or should I just keep trying to cope? I’ve lost 55#s, can’t sleep, nervous system on high, mind filled 24/7 with thoughts and research on all of this :/
Mi two am going thru hell on earth 2 weeks
Oh my goodness, I hope you r doing better
Thank you for making these videos! Can you do one on some of the supplements and energy medicine you use to help people taper off antipsychotics like Seroquel and Zyprexa?
Thanks for your request. I can think about how that may be possible. Stay tuned!
@@alicewleemd yes please can you do one soon??? your work is very important
I want to get off Effexor after over 10 years. I’m on lowest dose, 37.5 mg, it if I miss a dose,
I become light headed and nauseous. Doc recommended weaning off using 5 htp as a bridge. I’m praying that it will work. Wish I had never gone on it. I didn’t know this would happen.
We're you able to come off with 5http,Please update.
@@vinithtpr4297 I haven’t begun the process yet. Just haven’t been up for it. Too much going on in my life. I will update when I do. Thanks for asking.
thank you. god bless you. can you do one for olanzapine please?
Hi Doctor, and thank you for your great information. I really need to ask you something. I have Generalized Anxiety, 2 years follow up with psychiatrist. I’m on Valdoxan(Agomelatine) 50mg/on now. It did helped me in reducing the physical symptom of my anxiety, but somehow it didn’t helped with my emotion and overthinking. So, I bought a probiotic (my family forced me to take supplement and the pharmacist convinced me that probiotic helps with anxiety). But, I’m not planning to stop my Valdoxan at all. Can I take both of them? Antidepressant+Probiotic? And how about Multivitamin? I want to cry cause I can’t wait until next appointment in 2 months and ask my doctor.. 😭😭😭
Additional: I experience GERD and I don’t eat vegetables. 😔
It depends on the quality of the probiotics and multivitamins. A good probiotic is quite safe in general. Perque Digesta Guard Forte 10 should be fine. Another helpful product I have used with good benefits for many patients is a liquid supplement called Ion Gut Health by Ionbiome.com. If you have problems with your GI system, a liquid supplement may be more easily absorbed: Brainchild Spectrum Support Minerals and Brainchild Spectrum Support II Vitamins Lemon Lime flavored. if you don't eat vegetables, then it may be helpful to have some smoothies that allow you to absorb nutrients more easily. Good luck.
Holistic Psychiatrist I see. Cause there are many information about life threatening and toxic multivitamins in the internet, that’s why I got worried so much. And smoothie, why I never thought about it.. a very good idea. Thank you so much Doctor for your help! I really appreciate it.. 🙏🏼♥️
I’m trying to come off 15 mg mirtazapine. Worst mistake of my life taking these and have never been so depressed and scared. I’ve started making my pills into a liquid so I can lower 10% a month accurately. I’ve tried cutting pills faster and have scarred myself emotionally. I’m afraid I will never feel like myself again, I haven’t felt good in two years. At time have lost the will to live. I was not like this before taking this drug so I keep reminding myself this is not me. I will try these supplements thank you. Where do I buy them?🙏
I am in the same situation. Even tough I have good knowledge in medicine and holistic healing, I had no clue what I sumbled into. How are you doing in the meantime?
Hi Allison
I am also trying to taper Mirtazapine
Have you tapered successfully??
@@ABCiiiiiiii I am down to 1mg, I’m resting here a few months before going the rest of the way! Good luck to you, what dose and how are you tapering?
@@martin4702 I am feeling better lately as I’ve gotten lower, I am scared to come all the way off and possibly have rebound insomnia, but I’m almost off! Scariest most horrible thing I’ve ever been through , and couldn’t have made it without the online community giving me more advice and life saving tips then actual “doctors”
@@allisonchainz82 hi Allison
Thank you a lot for reply.❤️❤️
I am also on 15 mg!
My story goes like this:
I was on on mirtazapine for about 3 years I was first on 45 than gradually I went to 30, than to 15. I was on 15 for about nine months. I had no issues coming down from 45 to 15 none whatsoever. I was in 15 for about 9 months and back in August of 2021 I started tapering using water. I went from 15 to 0 in four months. Again, with no issues in those 4 months. I was fine for another 3 months after taper. Than in March I plummeted over night in extreme anxiety depression and insomnia. I went back to 15 mg of Mirtazapine thinking I went too fast.
What are your main symptoms coming off this drug?
How long it took you to come down to 1 mg?
Thank you
First, thank you for this video! I especially found it helpful when you described the hyper sensitivity effect. You also mentioned that you can get very sick in about 3 month's time after lowering the dose (too fast); this has happened to me, and then it happened again at 6 months. Do you know why this happens, why are the symptoms so delayed? And how can I predict if these difficult symptoms are coming in 3-6 months, if at the beginning of the tapering I actually might feel a bit better?
These are good questions. The short answer to your question is that many things are happening beneath your ability to notice at the symptom level. You might notice when you crash metabolically, but long before that (over three months?) the body has been frantically trying to support you.
The delay in the worst of the withdrawal is because these drugs accumulate at amazing amounts within the brain & are 98% protein binding. So they are being held in the system by complex proteins. Therefore the best diet during or after the use of antidepressants is a Vegan diet heavy in fresh fruit & veggies which have very simple proteins because you do not want those protein clumps (Lewy Bodies) to build up in the brain ending in the REM Sleep Disorder as it did for Robin Williams & ending in his death as he acted out his worst nightmare in a sleep state. You should also avoid anything that will increase serotonin, like 5HTP or St. John's Wort, because the drugs have inhibited your ability to metabolize serotonin. You have to work on rebuilding your ability to metabolize serotonin. I have been assisting those withdrawing from these drugs for 30+ years.
Can I have a consultation.Im in Florida.I was looking for someone like you,to help Me T.Y.
Thank you very much for this video. I would like to ask whether i can combine a 25mg zoloft titration dose with a 5thp and vitamin b supplementation protocol considering an 8 hour interval between them?
I am suffering from SSRI induced PSSD.How to recover
Hi. I’ve been on Zoloft for about 7-8 years for anxiety. It’s been at 50 mgs for most of the time (25 for a few years). Lately I’ve been wanting to get off of it but I’m really really scared. I’m doing good at handling my anxiety now, but I’m scared it’s going to come back. I’m also scared about the withdrawal symptoms. What if I can’t handle it, and what if the symptoms cause my anxiety to flare up badly again and get really bad panic attacks? I want to be able to live my life without the meds, but the process to getting there is terrifying me. Even if I forget to take my pill for one day I find myself feeling super dizzy the whole day until I get my next dose. That leads me to believe that the whole process will be super rough. Also, will my personality change and will I act differently once I get off it?
I'd recommend that you go to my website and learn a little more about medication withdrawal. My website is: holisticpsychiatrist.com
Me too.
Are you now on antidepressants or not
Experience with benzodiazepine withdrawal on top of anti-depressant withdrawal? my doctor abruptly stopped both of them and it has been almost 3 years and I am still suffering with extreme morning anxiety Akathisia doom and terror have brain fog and fatigue really bad with Anhedonia. I have been having issues trying supplements my nervous system seems raw.
how long were u on benzo and ssri
@@PrekshitBhargava-kl8xe 12 yr high does benzo then 4 years on antipsychotics & antidepressants
I took prozac 10mg for 3 days. First day I was okay but couldn't really sleep. Day 2 and 3 got really really bad with my anxiety. I haven't slept good and woke up in a panic last night. I feel so much worst than before meds. I have klonopin 0.25mg to help with panic attacks but I feel like im losing my mind now. Is it okay to stop cold turkey after 3 days? Is it possible to still deal with withdrawal symptoms? What should I do to ease things. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Im really drowning with worry and have no support.
Wen Dee you doing okay?
I have been off Paxil for about 1 year and 3 months, took it for maybe 2.5 years 20mg. My back has been very tight and painful since I quit. I did cut down to 5 MG over the course of a m9nth or so. Have been going to a chiropractor and gett8ng massages, tylen9l and muscle relaxers.
Two days ago I started to take 10 MG of prozac hoping it would help, start8ng to think maybe not a good idea. My back does feel a bit better in 2 days.
Try a nootropic. These are called brain food. Ive been on antidepressants for 18yrs. Going well so far
which nootropic after withdrawal of ssri ?
Hello,
I'm currently tapering off zoloft (my original dose was 50mg) going with 5 mg per week (I think this is pretty abrupt) and I was feeling alright in doing that with my wellbutrin xl 300 mg. However recently I have been experiencing brain fog as well as emotional blunting and I was wondering for zoloft withdrawal what supplements would be appropriate? Thank you, and I hope to hear from you soon.
For how long you were on zoloft?
Will Serotonin supplements cause antidepressant citalopram withdrawal syndrome?
Hello and thank you ! I have been on Cymbalta 60 mg for 6 years. I am being weaned at 60 mg every other day. Seems a bit quick ? Would you consider 60-30-60-30 etc. I am on day 7. Brain zaps, dizziness, I feel like I am not real, I am very irritable and I can’t sleep. Should this last a while ?
Yes, it is too fast. Even with supplement preparation, I go with a few beads within a capsule every few days. Cymbalta is very difficult to come off of without professional help. So, please find an integrative psychiatrist to help you through this process. Good luck.
Do you have office that I can schedule appoint ? In Vancouver or Portland
I've been off benzos for 27.5 months. I've dealt with suicidal ideation, homicidal ideation, burning nerves all over my body but mostly in my face and legs, insomnia, DR/DP, complete emotional detachment and anger toward my family, and vision issues. How can a person fix this?
what is the original condition? take cbd and many vitamins. omega 3
@@dreamznaspiratons7064 Anxiety.
L tryptophan, 5 htp, NAC N Acetylene, b vitamin complex, choline,
I think you can fixed it.
I tried to came of them
Dint work... 2 visits to ER
I stay on them
@@zonnebloem100 xanax
Doctor I am profoundly grateful for the blessing of finding your channel.
I will reach out over your website soon, your knowledge could potentially save my life.
Please clarify something for me: would it be a bad idea to microdose psilocybin while on a SSRI tapering regimen? I'm aware there's no scientific data on the topic, but I'm hoping your experience and intuition could provide some interesting insights.
Yes! please answer.
I am so interested in this, too.
Thank you.
use cbd. did you do it?
@@naomimara3340 use cbd
@@dreamznaspiratons7064 yes, usually bad reactions
@@dreamznaspiratons7064 Dear onyx, i did 3 years ago when I was tappering off both Venlafaxine AND Benzodiazepine at the same time.(big mistake).
It did help for anxiety 👍, but not for depression.
This time, I'm of Antidepressants(1 month in), am not anxious just extremely depressed and fisicaly weak. So I don't think it would be helpful, and it is very expensive in my country (Croatia, Europe).
I'm so sick vomiting and manic from coming off trazadone. Omg can't sleep
Janel Bucsko take kratom.
@@denamullen340 Hi. Isn't cratom just for pain? I didn't know it's also recommended for psychiatric drug withdrawal?
Naomi Mara I read that tra adobe wrong oops. I thought I read she was coming off of tramadol lol
how are you now?
Goes away in a couple of weeks..not bad
When i stopt with my paroxetine.after 30 years!!i had terrible withdrawl symptoms But after 4 months i got diverculitis really bad en now after 4 years i still have very painful stomick and gut pains Is it true that youre bowls are very much conected to youre brains ?...
It's bad stuff , I took the HCl proxatine 10 mg never again that crap made me seriously ill and run on e with no appetite I developed an infection too , so darn nauseous it is not worth the suffering to feel better when it's supposed to help you , I had extremely up anxiety and panic attacks heart raced high for awhile could not sit still and then my heart rate drop low blood pressure no thanks headaches jaw pain , eye swollen, shaky , worse than buying 10 Starbucks coffee with extra expresso , made my hands burn inside um no , I can't take this crap anymore ever again I do have some little withdrawals though not near as bad when I was taking it less than a week got off that and had infection to get treated nope not for me,
Thank you.
Is so true what you say thanks
What do you recommend to help cold turkey withdrawal of benzos prescribed without warning for 29 years, taken as directed until i stopped? I'd requested to stop and doctor told me to "just stop!"
Im 44 months out and still miserable, hypersensitive to everything, no joy, personality has completely changed. Very high anxiety.
Newly diagnosed with "idiopathic small fiber peripheral polyneuropathy"
Please let me know if you have a suggestion! 🙏
Do you have the answer to why depression takes over in the first place it's definitely an inner brain thing, I felt like there was a creature crawling around in my head when I was very depressed and scared from it cos it kept me awake at night
What mineral or vitamin or oils are you speaking about because these products are all brand names
I have spirinula? I have 5htp? I have the multivitamin for hair and nails
A lot of great information she shares in this video. Also, check out a book called The Mood Cure. Our daily diet, minerals, amino acids, and many different things affect our mood. Also look up L-tryptophan which is very similar to 5-HTP, I've been learning about and working with different supplements to help me get off of SSRIs.... it's been a challenge and a learning experience but so far so good. =)
You have to find out whats the reason behind your depression or anxiety. It always stems from an underlying condition like; Low Iron, Low Vitamin D, low B12, Not enough healthy gut bacteria etc. As time passes and it gets worse your body may become deficient in whatever the problem maybe. Because Vitamin D and Iron play a huge role in the functioning of neurotransmitters like Serotonin, and Dopamine.
@@bigmaneastside Medication has sidec effects. I transformed my life a few years back. Develop your mental muscles by reprogramming the mind [brain] and boosting the level of serrotonin and dopamine. . Your breath is directly related to your mind [brain] causing anxiety-stress. For a relaxed life without anxiety-stress sit on a chair, back erect, hands on lap with palms upwards, eyes closed, be still and observe your natural incoming--outgoing breath and body sensations for around 10-15 minutes. Be as still as possible. Many thoughts will come which is ok--slowly negative thoughts will reduce and your mind will relax with no desire for pills. Mind[brain] are reprogrammed. After 1 days of the above meditation daily start reducing dosage, take very alternate day and taper out after 20-25 days. Take only when needed. Best part is mood swings also reduce after daily meditation. . Avoid watching negative tv and mobile shows.. Do the above meditation daily twice without any doubts and enjoy life without medication. Best wishes. Shyaaam Sir. -Counsellor-Teacher.
@@bigmaneastside yes and the women change in hormones
Take melatonin and magnesum since off all trazadone a month ago. Have anxiety and insomnia at nigh t
how you doing coming off traz
Magnesium glycinate 400mg + 2 benedryl + 1 mg melatonin w gaba
Hello there, I would love to see a video on supplements you recommend for tapering off SNRI's like Effexor XR. I've tapered down from 150mg to 37.5mg under my doctor but am scared to go from 37.5mg to zero. Any guidance would be appreciated. I would love a consultation with you but as a student cannot afford it at this time. Thank you for making this video!
Its the same, SNRI only bind to norepinephrine at high doses.
You can take 5htp or sjw or tryptophan when off effexor. I personally would go for 5htp and or sjw. I have also heard niacin can help alot. Yes the flushing form.
Nice video.
Only sleep about 4 hrs.
If you are one of those ppl that, symptoms came back after months. What would you suggest them to do?
Hey doc is fluvoximine an easier ssri to ween of???? Ive been on mine for 20 years 😢
Hello, I hope someone can please answer or comment if they went through similar things as im going thru.
I have been tapering down paxil 30mg, I want to be off meds that i have been taking for over 10 years.
2 days ago was my last pill of paxil. The withdrawal symptoms were somehow bearable at first while tapering down. Now its been 2 days meds free, I have none stop severe brain zaps, dizziness, weird eye movement accompanied by sensors disturbance in my head, I cant go out from the house, i constantly need assistance. Im so tired, muscle pain everywhere, crying spells, extreme anxiety and confusion As if im disoriented and disassociate from my entourage. I am ready to push through but did anyone get it and got better after ? I am not sure how long will i be able to handle this, please someone tell me they went thru this and it will go away in some time and i will be better. Do you recommend starting 5htp now ?
If the withdrawals are bad , try an antianxiety low dose to help with that too it will and can help , I can't take that crap of meds doing that
I went through horrible horrific adverse side effects from proxitine HCl never again will I ever take that crap , I was on it less than one week cold turkey to save my life , I developed an infection too , not good , it was a small dose 10 mg to 5mg in case if I had to take myself off it , I do however have gad I take an anti anxiety med to help with those withdrawals at a small dose , it does help though alot better than celeza it almost killed me , cymbala was on over 15 can not take that , alot of side effects, now paxzil HCl no way , never again ,
It will get better though, change your habits and eating and such , I believe it will get better for you and me too like others , the pharmkeya has changed it's all ingredients in all medicines seems like more side adverse effects than helping the chemical imbalance
what about tryptophan after?
Think you said you would make a video for coming off SNRIs. Did this ever happen?
Thanks.
Thank you for this. Wish I had known about it before weaning off. Could you tell me what could help now with the withdrawal symptoms? I was taking cymbalta 60 mg for 2years or so, felt to stopped working. So transitioned to Pristiq to 50 mg for 2 months but decided to weaned off medication all together. Dr weaned me off Pristiq first 2 weeks on 50mg then second 2 weeks 25mg each day. I’m on my second week of no medication anymore and I’m having all withdrawal symptoms , it’s debilitating . Please help on how I can get rid of them🙏
It's not a good idea of wean off Cymbalta when it "stops working" because that just means that neurotransmitter levels are so low that the same medication has little effect on the system. You'll need to gradually go back up on your last antidepressant, even if it "didn't work" and start by building both serotonin (SeroPlus) and some helpful catecholamines (use D-phenylalanine 500 mg caps) before you try to lower very slowly. Otherwise, you can cause permanent damage to parts of your body that depend on your serotonin and catecholamine systems. I believe the whole process requires someone with integrative psychiatry expertise to help you through the process.
Do you help people with Benzo withdrawals?
If yes can i just take vitamins and supplements to ease the withdrawl?
How efficient is l tryptophan for depression and anxiety ??
Please tell me what someone should do when they have gone cold turkey for a month and now experiencing withdrawal symptoms.
Gone cold turkey on escitalopram (first 10 mg - for 3.5 years, then 5mg for 3 months till 1 Aug 2024), as of now its been 25 days, experiencing anxiety, irritability, sleep disturbance and low mood, burning sensation only first 1 to 2 hours after waking up, no brain zaps or balance issues.
What should I do? Should I brave through with supplements or should I reintroduce and do slow taper, afraid of paradoxical reactions but withdrawal symptoms are horrible.
If I reintroduce at what dose?
If supplements, which supplements?
I am currently withdrawing from Effexor, horrendous. I’ve found a supplement called Cogniblast. I Googled nootropics and found this was a new one. Has helped me HUGELY! 100% agree, supplement make a big difference, especially to brain zaps. I’m in Australia but I get it from America.
Any thoughts on the Genius brand of products to assist with an Ssri taper? In this case, Genius Joy?
I don't use that brand, so I can't provide you with a helpful opinion on it.
Please help me to withraw clonazapam and zolpidem please help me im sufferring my drymount im leave in the philippines zoom
Is it possible to become dependent on L Tryptophan? I’ve been taking it since early this year.
Due to a medical procedure I’m unable to take any pills. That forced me to stop taking Pristiq and now I’m having severe withdrawals 😩😩😩 any advise?!?
Thank God you stopped taking SSRI.. never take it in the first place .. never everever take it ..
My son cannot have b12 or anything that give him energy he become irritable . He use to be in depokope for 8 years he going through withdrawal and I have been giving him vitamin mineral but he still suffering . What can you recommend .
Can you suggest anything for thus throb like feeling in my body and a slight tremor which do get wors times since I stop talking my lexa pro from a total of 20 mg I used for about 3 years and now i have been off them for about 2 years still feel lethargic and vertigo and heart beat irregularities. But thus throb is the worst that i feel in my body specialy when I sleep.
My prozac start doing me huge problems, so from 70mg i need to stop taking, because of convulsion..so i am just on lamictal..i dont take l-trypthophan because i get tick..:(
Great video thank you! My situation is a bit different. I have been on Wellbutrin xl 300mg for about two years, tomorrow I will start taking xl 150mg to tapper off. I have heard great things about ashwagandha and I actually plan on starting it soon, could it help with the potential withdrawal symptoms?
The withdrawal symptoms would be the underlying causes plus the neurotransmitter levels associated with Wellbutrin. With Wellbutrin, I often use D-phenylalanine 500 mg by Montiff or Dr.'s Best and SeroPlus by Pure Encapsulations to support its mix of receptors and neurotransmitters. However, it's tricky, so you should have a doctor follow you closely.
@@alicewleemd Hi.
Would these also work for Venlafaxine as both are Snri's? (If I remember correctly).
And can we use it DURING withdrawal, or only AFTER, when we are completely off?
Thank you.
I found getting off Wellbutrin XL quite easy and had no withdrawal symptoms. I went to a compounding pharmacy and dropped 10% every 6 weeks. The difficult one has been Effexor XR. Was on it for 15 years. Started at 75 mg, 10% drop every 6 weeks. Once I got to 45 mg, I started to get depressed. I can sleep up to 15 hours a day and have no motivation. I’m 75 years of age. I have started taking Hi-potency B vitamins and Omega 3. I will also add a mineral supplement to this. This has to be the worst antidepressant to get off. It’s been tough as I live alone. I feel like all I want is to sleep.
Mary J sorry to hear you are struggling, you can do this!
Hi Doctor, how about using Sam E in conjunction with a lower dosage of SSRI (in trying to ween off 150mg of Fluvoxsamine)?
Thank u very much❤️
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the video!! I’m hoping to come off desvenlafaxine soon! But I’m currently trying to come off topiramate 150mg, do you have any supplement/nutritional advice and support that I should be doing in conjunction with that withdrawal? Thanks in advance
You should study the pharmacology of Topiramate in Wikipedia and have a doctor help you with that. Its pharmacology is complex. I think you might find the withdrawals very difficult without an experienced holistic or integrative psychiatrist.
What supplements would you recommend for Antipsychotics? I’m taking Niacin right now after having tolerance withdrawal from antipsychotics, will the Niacin allow my down-regulated/super-sensitized receptors to heal or will it interrupt the healing process?
@Kevin Oh
Melatonin
It's too complicated to explain how to help you reduce an antipsychotic, but I have articles on my website on this topic. Just put "antipsychotic" on the search bar, and a bunch of articles will show up.
Wit h probiotics are good ath the same time thaling citaliopram DR.
Please advice 😊😊😊😊😊
Hello there, I am almost 6 weeks into my second pregnancy. Would these supplements be safe to take? I am currently experiencing SSRI discontinuation and am struggling. Thank you.
I am wondering if CBD oil could help in these moments???
Do you telemedicine now
Question I have been 7 years completely Sertraline free and don’t take any other drugs and still suffer with protracted withdrawal syndrome. Any help would be appreciated
sorry to read this. what are your symptoms still?
@@DomBaconMusic I get an aweful lot of adrenaline surges as well as wonky brain with memory lapse. Depression in overdrive and can’t stop doing anything ….constant business
@@allisonbergamorto2336 that must be living hell. I'm thinking of weaning off pristiq. I hate being a zombie
Sounds like u just have your anxiety back
I was wondering if you have done a video on SNRI withdrawals? I'm 2.5 weeks off Venlafaxine and even though I tapered slowly enough and stopped at 12.5mg, I feel miserable for numerous reasons.. I tried bridging the gap with Zoloft and stopped after 6 days of 25mg.
how long were u on snri
Does short time benzo use like clonazepam helps with SNRIs withdrawls ??
Yes and SSRI , I take it for my anxiety gad
@@Yellow-oc4sl what ssri helping you with gad ?
Hello Doctor I have been on 20mg Celexa for 12 years for anxiety and some depression. I am wanting to start tapering off. Have you ever used products from the Pain and Stress center? Many thanks to you for your videos. God Bless
I’ve been having pretty bad discontinuation symptoms for 2 years. Is this common?
Does this apply to TCAs . I am trying to come off Clomiprimine, but am having increased anxiety. I am also 14 months off Diazapam.
Please could you help me
Can you take seroplus while tapering off antidepressants?
Hi are you suggesting it’s ok to take 5-htp while tapering ssri medication? I’m currently down to 5mg lexapro I tapered from 10 mg every other day to 5mg every day and finding it hard . To me it makes sense to supplement with 5-htp but have been warned about mixing the two because of serotonin syndrome which can be dangerous apparently?!
its not good to taper every other day.join the group called lexapro should be illegal on Facebook for proper tapering off SSRi's.
or listen to Dr Lee and taper 10% every few weeks.I tapered 2% every month.
She said to start with 50 mg 5htp for 2 weeks then go up to 100 mg 5htp for 2 weeks then start your tapering ssri. Its near the beginning of this video when she is talking about the vitamins.
What about Pure Encapsulations Emotional Wellness supplement? Is it any better than Seroplus? I see that it also has 5htp and other ingredients for stress, but it is almost double the price of Seroplus. Just curious if you had any knowledge of that product?
I don't know about that product.
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Can you use 5Htp and sero plus together?!
Have a big question. I am having great difficulty with withdrawal symptoms of Paxil. Wish I had seen this video first. I have been suffering for a long time. 2 years. I am now at about 1.5 mg Paxil and I feel so awful… how can I feel better at this stage and finish what I started? Plz help me 🙏🏼
Should I not be detoxing at this point? A nutritionist has me doing a detox. To heal my stomach but I am feeling unwell a a lot of times.
It's bad stuff
I have quit taking 100 mg Zoloft 19 days ago. I feel the “brain zaps” and almost constant dizziness. I’m scared to go back on the meds to taper down because I’m afraid of going through the beginning of the withdrawal process again. Can I just start taking the seroplus to help with the withdrawal without starting the Zoloft again?
I've tried to do it that way, but it doesn't work very well. Perhaps it's because it takes time to build serotonin, and Zoloft withdrawal can seriously undermine your GI system, which will have ramifications for the rest of your physical health. If you stopped cold turkey, then the GI system loses function suddenly. I'd advise you to go back on the Zoloft, take time to stabilize and build serotonin, and then lower it properly. Otherwise, you could damage your body with the amount of oxidative stress and inflammation that are triggered by the withdrawal process.
I haven’t had an GI issues at all, just dizziness, brain zaps, irritability, and insomnia really. But I’m sleeping better recently. The dizziness is almost constant though. I don’t think I can convince myself to go back on to taper, I was so scared of serotonin syndrome while I was sick. My dr had told me to stop taking it. She didn’t even mention tapering. I didn’t even know that was a thing 😞
@@brinaynichole2593 Then consider taking some St. John's Wort to help with your withdrawals.
Holistic Psychiatrist thank you, I will look into it 💙
Brinay Nichole I’m going through this exact same thing right now. I can barely stand it.
I’ve recently stop taking mirtazapine cold turkey due to lexapro causing too much brain fog, I’ve been withdrawing for over a month. The biggest problem is I cannot hold any food down and I am always nauseated, any advice ?
I am also trying to come
Off mirtazapine, biggest nightmare of my life. I am making my pills into a liquid and trying to lower 10% a month. My doctor doesn’t believe in withdrawal and says it is rare. I am very sad and hopeless and will try the suggestions in this video. Good luck on your withdrawal journey, I just keep telling myself time heals
@@allisonchainz82 yes time heals ! Both my psychiatrist and doctor told me it must something other than withdrawal ! But here I am two months later and I’m completely fine like nothing happened ! Time really is your best friend and I hope your journey becomes easier !
I didn't get it. Lexapro or mirtazapine was causing the fog? Or both? I have same issues. Crazy brain fog. I am on high cymbalta dosage and coming off of olanzapine
@@billtheo7476 I was on lexapro and got off cuz of the brain fog ! I couldn’t remember something that I did the day before or sometimes my last sentence ! I was never really mentally there but at least I wasn’t depressed ! Mitrazphime gave me the worst withdraw
And I wasn’t on it longer than like two_three months
@@billtheo7476 how long have you been having brain fog !?
Hi there you're really full of knowledge I need right now how can I come of fluoxetine 20mg the slowest way possible thank you so much for this vid x
It may be helpful to use a liquid form of Fluoxetine and gradually come down that way, making sure that you are building sufficient serotonin through supplements about two weeks in advance of the gradual withdrawal. Everyone is different, so I can't be more specific than that.
Sean, get the liquid form prozep. I'm using this. If there is a pharmacist in the practice get hold of them, they may have more knowledge. It's easier to do small redictions with a syringe. I wish I had known about this in 2007 did own clunky taper and went mad. Not knowing it was withdrawal symptoms. As I went back on them I felt better after a while thinking I needed them long term and the withdrawal was my OCD coming back bad. It wasn't. Prozac will change your brain. Slow taper. CEPUK is a good general site. Inner compass initiative. At moment I reduce 0.1ml a week or 2 weeks etc... Put your foot down for this liquid, they may say just cut down one pill, day off, 1 pill, day etc... this is dangerous in my opinion. Unfortunately Dr don't know about exit strategies and the NICE guildelines (I think they're being changed) are too quick etc..
@@cradlecap123 thanks mate this really helped I've not got liquid to start in 2 week I'm thinking of reducing my 1 mg every 4 week what do you think of that? Please reply
@@seanneedham1019 Hi Sean, tnx for message. Good news with liquid. Is it prozep? 20mg is equal to 5ml. 1mg per month = 0.25ml on an oral syringe. Or did you mean 1ml per month? On a pill 20mg dosage a 10% reduction is 18mg.
So the liquid equivalent is 0.5ml off 5ml = 4.5ml in the syringe.
Reducing is so difficult as any feelings as you drop a dose makes u think it's the 'tapering' when it migth just be a bad day with circumstances. I think when you get lower the reduction might need to be smaller as my case. 0.1ml per 2 weeks (roughly). There's also the idea of 10% off the previous dose - ie. 10% 18mg is 1.8mg. Therefore 1.8mg off 18mg equals 16.2mg - However this could send you mad. But I think 10mg and below make the reductions smaller. But it depends on how u feel. Everyone's different. There seems to be some people who metabolise the drug differently therefore there taper is a breeze. I think it also depends on what u r doing. If u r busy and doing something u enjoy with good friends then the focus on yourself if different.
@@cradlecap123 dam thanks fro the reply a long confusing one haha km planning to go from 20 mg pill to 20mg liquid and taper of the liquid by 10% which is 2 mg down every 6 to 8 week are you of it now and how you doing
Any advice for cymbalta (Duloxatine? Or is it the same procedure?!
It's bad stuff
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