Hunting Black Grouse in Finland with 6.5x55
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- It's like deer stalking but in this case our deer is perched on 25 metre tall stilts. Game chef Cai Ap Bryn is in Finland after black grouse. You stalk up to the birds, which have the vantage point of treetops to look out for you. He uses the same rifle he used for moose, a Sauer 404, swapping the barrels from 9.3x62 to 6.5x55. And after successful hunt, he plucks and cooks up the bird on an open fire.
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I love seeing a successful hunt. Thats awsome. Im usually watching elk or deer videos but this was just as good. Very cool to see a rifle being used on a bird. I use shotguns for grouse in the fields.
Another Great Show Charlie well done to you and the whole team. Cheers.
This is a hunting with a very long tradition. There is a dog breed for this hunt, the Finnish Spitz. Dog will chase a bird (black grouse or capercaillie) in to the tree and then bark at it, so the bird attention is at the dog and hunter has easier approach. Its a national way to hunt in Finland and Sweden, in our vast and uninhabited taiga forests. If you don´t understand it, dont jugde it, learn.
Nice graveyard shots much appreciated.Greetings from Pakistan.
Hello from Pennsylvania!
Great video keep up the good work 👍
Was expecting a porn film with a title like that
haha
Nice job
Awesome
Can you please do a video with shotgun?
Love it guys but a smaller cartridge would do the same job
v nice
Name the gun ??? What is its effective range ???
Thanks for this. Details of the rifle are in the description. / Charlie
👍super
good vid
That bolt handle.....
did you destroyed the meat?
No, fmj does not destroy any meat it just punches a clean hole and dumps no energy like a soft point bullet would.
@@swedish_steel7861 sometimes it does mess it up really bad
Hi fom Sweden
Can some explain to me the purpose of shooting high power rifles into the air? I understand the whole shot placement argument but what about if the bullet completely penetrates the bird or the shooter misses the game?
It's not something we would do in the UK because of the backstop problem. The Finns, however, consider it fine. When you shoot abroad, I think you have to compromise - though you don't have to do everything you are told. For example, I turned down an 80-yard shot on a goat with a shotgun in China, which disappointed my local guide. / Charlie
Ok so just depends on local laws/regulations. Thanks for input !
@@puttz2 its more about the backstop, they probaly knew that there were no people/buildings for miles and miles in that direction. were i live i would not dare shoot a bird in a tree with a rifle, but further north were its less populated its very common.
Swedish_Steel in Canada there is also lots of bush with little no population residing there. Law still states to never discharge a rifle, even a .22 into the air because there is still a small chance it can come down onto people. Don’t think it’s a good idea to just assume nobody is there.
@@puttz2 true, but that won't stop us muahahahahaha
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6.5x55 wtf. 177 HMR or 22LR would be more than sufficient. High velocity air rifles would also be good. How about a 127m Naval Cannon, that works too!!
In Finland, hunting with air rifles is not allowed. You can neither shoot these grouses with a .22LR. It's illegal due to the lack of power. However, .17 HMR is allowed caliber for grouses.
Considering the ranges and the fact that Finland is sparsely populated, we tend to use a little bigger calibers. For instance, here comes some of the most popular calibers in Finland used for grouse hunting: .222, .223, .243, any 6,5 caliber and .308.
With this in mind, Finns always check where they shoot to avoid dangerous situations.
Greetings from Finland!
why would you use such a large caliber? why not .17 hmr or even .223 or 22-250
Jack Dawson 223 will usually blow up the bird due to high speed. 6,5 allows slower speeds plus less wind drift
@@magnushoydal 60-70 gr .223 fmj seems as tho it would be ideal to me. heck of a lot less energy than 6.5
Because the 17hmr is illegal for black grouse. 223 is a common caliber to use and the calibers used range from the 222 all the way up to the 30-06, 308 is a very common caliber to use as well.
@@willd5004 when tryin to hit something small, its less then 10cm diameter and in reality you dont want to hit the breast meat so its smaller hen that. The 6.5x55 has been the caliber of choice, the golden target 130 grain VLD is perfect. 200m is no problem for the 6.5 but some even shoot at further ranges and then wind deflection is the issue.
I would not use anything smaller then 6mm for this kind of hunting. 222/223 has its use, but they get a bit sensitive to wind calls.
In sweden the law dictates 40 grain bulet with 100m energy of 200J. The 22 hornet or 22wmr is the weakest allowed, but they are not usefull over 125-150 meters.
also a fast 22-250 or 243 can, with to high velocity, just blow up the birds, they are not hard targets and varmint calibers are not usefull at closer distances, you are supposed to eat them.
you could use the 6.5 for the moose haha
You could but its really not ideal, it barely passes the requirements and my dad had to shoot a moose 7 times, all in the lungs and vitals for it to die.
@@TNPK_ your dad needs to practice
@@TNPK_ yeah, there is thousands of moose that has died to single shot of 6.5x55. If you hit both lungs, penetration is almost guaranteed due to sectional density, they are dead. 7 shots is excessive and i dont belive you, most rifles are only allowed 5+1 rounds.. i dont belive he reloaded.
Or he shot with 95 vmax or FMJ.. not proper moose bullets like partition, oryx.. In sweden a mdern 6.5x55 has 20% more energy then the law dictates, 2500J is no slouch with 160 grain bullets.
You shoot with this caliber in air. Don't you afraid shoot somebody over several killometers ?
These forests are several hundreds of hectares and the bullets are quite light weight, so it would be very unlikely to hit anyone. So its considered to be just as risky as any other form of hunting.
Well, ods there are someone in the direction is small.. in northen sweden population density is 0.2 people / km2. And most of that is just nothing upon nothing. finland and sweden, esp where this hunting is done, is really sparsly populated. Unless you shoot towards where there is houses, chances are minimal. There is only 1 case recently with someone getting hurt.. and there is some urban myths to, but compared to normal hunting where people get shot every year this is no way near as dangerous.
As someone said, the bullet is only in "person height" for last 1 meter of its travel, imagine the ods standing 2 km away, on that exact spot! When deer hunting a bullet is in person heigh for several hundred meters, and might even deflect.
why not use a .22
Drop a chicken off a tree top from 250 meters away with a .22 LR.. :D
🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️things from asylum really you knock us down a moose with that rifle not a chicken at 50 yards
nice video, but total overkill, 6.5mm on a bird smaller than a chicken, is there even any meat left after the smackdown?? I doubt it
Full metall jacket
@Blake it doesn't. You're not supposed to hit the chest on these birds anyway. Everyone shoots them with large calibers and there's really no meat loss unless you hit the gizzard(which breaks from any bullet really).
.17 and .22 work only up to 100 meters reliably. In finland when we hunt grouse the shooting distance is usually 150-300 meters. 6,5 caliber works really well and full metal jacket bullets don't expand much at all and so don't destroy the meat. When shooting in the forest bigger bullet is also better because there might be small branches or leaves in front of the bird and a small and light bullet might change direction or begin to spin when going through them.
Smackdown? Are you nine years old?
Why the hell are you running 6.5 sewed on grouse? Probably just a plug for the manufacturer of your high end rifle...what? they didn't make a barrel in under 6.5mm... lol. Just complete garbage, this is completely ridiculous nobody anywhere goes grouse hunting with a 6.5. Yeah the odd one might get shot with a 6.5 or other high powered rifle when it's all you have on hand and you aren't seeing any moose but to suggest it as a reasonable cartridge selection for small game birds is a total joke. But I guess if the rifle company is funding the trip you shoot what they want you to no matter how completely idiotic it is.....
in the nordic countries its common to hunt grouse starting at 222 all the way to 30-06. i use my 6.5x55 for grouse since im not confident shooting 17hmr at 300m
@@davidvernersson193 I use a 6,5 Swede for grouse and capercaillie and deer as well. People I go hunt with in the vast wilderness of Eastern Finland's border area next to Russia all use calibers from 6,5x47 lapua up to .308Win.. Everybody uses high velocity OTM-bullets ie.high BC target projectiles with very flat trajectories. Sometimes the birds just blow up depending on the shot placement and sometimes there is just a pen prick through. Every single time the pray dies instantly. Nobody wants to go searching for a wounded game in the dusk in the Finnish wilderness.. In Sweden it is exactly the same. It is the western edge of Taiga up here.. Not some little patch of trees in central England or some other similar area. Northern Swedish and Finnish Taiga areas are the last large wilderness in Europe.
You should really have started with admitting that you don't really know what you're talking about. Then gone from there.
hunting cultures differ, 6.5x55 is a small diameter military cartridge common in this part of the world. nowadays they make special loads for everything from grouse to brown bear. We typically shoot light full metal jacket spitz at small game and 11g lead flatheads at bigger game.
Thats totally unethical use of a hunting gun
In sweden "topfågeljakt" as we call it, top bird hunting, is traditional since the 6.5x55 became common. most used military ammuntion, as it was more or less free and the rifles common for moose hunting. the parts where this hunting is common is extremely sparsly populated. Northen half of sweden is larger then many countries and only have 450k population and 90% of that is on the eastern coast. Ods of getting hit by a bullet fired on a bird like that is extremely low, as the dangerous area, albeit 2-3km away depending on caliber, is just a couple cm. Not like shooting horizontaly where you need to have a bullet stop to be safe, or you can risk anyway from 0 to 500m.
There is only a few recorded cases in 100 years, most notebly two brothers that was out hunting and one of them got shot by the other one from a shot at a bird. Ods of that is so small, the risk of dying on your way to the forest is larger.
Why?