A Genealogy of the State: Quentin Skinner

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  • Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
  • Quentin Skinner of Queen Mary College, University of London, presents the second lecture of a two-lecture series. ____
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Комментарии • 34

  • @sofiahathaway8024
    @sofiahathaway8024 3 года назад +19

    a book that recently came out called 'Quest for Freedom, An Interview with Quentin Skinner' is really worth reading. I just found it online, and thought I'd share it here:)

    • @chffhgxgc4404
      @chffhgxgc4404 2 года назад

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    • @vagishyadav284
      @vagishyadav284 7 месяцев назад +1

      If everyone just commented like you, the comment section would be like a repository associated to the video.

  • @JaguarDevice
    @JaguarDevice 5 лет назад +3

    Marvellous lecture

  • @yojaktamang246
    @yojaktamang246 2 года назад +2

    great insights.... helped a lot. Thank you

  • @willchurch2813
    @willchurch2813 9 месяцев назад

    This is outstanding.

  • @Kragen-cj2xu
    @Kragen-cj2xu 7 лет назад +5

    Can I find this lecture in script, somewhere?

    • @nomos6508
      @nomos6508 4 года назад

      @Angelika Karpa thank you!

  • @pythonplayzz7
    @pythonplayzz7 Год назад

    love from kerala , we listen a lot in my stat....... so pupular there

  • @jimmccue8063
    @jimmccue8063 2 года назад

    "So what has become of the sovereign state? It looks as though it has evaporated." For better or worse, it doesn't look that way any longer.

  • @pingukutepro
    @pingukutepro 3 года назад

    I'm agree with him that whoever said the state is death is premature.

    • @vlad3192
      @vlad3192 2 года назад +1

      State is dead in libertarian philosophy long ago

    • @gonx9906
      @gonx9906 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@vlad3192and libertarian philosophy is so popular... 😂😂

  • @thomasshirrefs5331
    @thomasshirrefs5331 6 лет назад

    I haven't finished the lecture yet I'll say I don't understand why Skinner won't assimilate more completely European tradition in his talks... Does he think it will resonate more with the states if France, Italy and Switzerland are left aside somewhat? Surely we're all Americans these days? Even they would understand the common origin of our political philosophies?

    • @jacobzuiderveen6047
      @jacobzuiderveen6047 6 лет назад +3

      I think it is to narrow the scope of his inquiry. He mentions but does not delve into the progression of the German idea of the state as it developed the idea of an enlightened dictator. Nor does he mention the evolution of French republicanism and its insistence on universal equality of citizen. He isn't rejecting other notions of the state but only explaining the english language tradition as it uses the term state. He describes the other language traditions in the beginning to describe where the English language tradition comes from. He does a similar thing with his talk on liberty, but it's clear during his talk that he's studied and incorporated other language traditions when he talks about an idea's historical importance to a particular time.

    • @firstal3799
      @firstal3799 2 года назад

      England was where ideas and institutions grew in Europe. Oher euro countries rode its coattails

  • @owenmcgee8496
    @owenmcgee8496 6 лет назад +6

    Very good lecture. I remember being in a UCD class in 1997 in which Skinner was a (guest) chair for a student debate on Hobbes, based on a small segment of Leviathan. I, as a complete novice 20 year old, argued that it was significant that Hobbes said that the (representative) person of the state did not have to be a king, but Skinner replied that I was simply wrong: it most definitely had to be a king. Watching this lecture, I'm still not entirely sure why he said that. But perhaps the close of this lecture is a clue. Skinner is one of the best there is for connecting political philosophies with legal histories but, ultimately, I think his perspective is strictly in keeping with his academic affiliation.

    • @0Ave0
      @0Ave0 6 лет назад

      Perhaps, it may be useful to refer to Carl Schmitt: the decision making abilities of the Sovereign is what determines why he/she is representative of the State.
      From that position, the Sovereign can defend the existence of the State, as they decide on what is an exception. But may be Quentin Skinner may have a different opinion.

    • @JaguarDevice
      @JaguarDevice 5 лет назад +3

      It doesn’t have to be a monarch and Quentin Skinner wouldn’t have said that. Read any of Skinner’s work on Hobbes.

    • @carolynfehr
      @carolynfehr Год назад

      @@JaguarDevice What, were you there? Smh.

    • @JaguarDevice
      @JaguarDevice Год назад

      No, but I studied Hobbes under Skinner and find it hard to believe he said that. Shake your head if you like

    • @carolynfehr
      @carolynfehr 11 месяцев назад

      @@JaguarDevice This wouldn't be the world's first instance of conflict.
      Besides, your doubt comes courtesy of a hypotheticality, while the OP claims a true experience. He gets my vote of confidence.

  • @firstal3799
    @firstal3799 2 года назад

    Early 20 th century was optimistic of a world govt so perhaps they overreacted on downfall of sovereign. It was an underlying assumption international govt is inevitable.

  • @landisgallagher
    @landisgallagher 3 года назад +1

    So the state began as a kingdom (with slaves) and ended as a sovereign debt republic (with debtors)

  • @firstal3799
    @firstal3799 2 года назад

    Hobbies clearly the greatest political philosopher.

  • @firstal3799
    @firstal3799 2 года назад

    Body language wise professor is clearly uncomfortable talking about multinationals vis a vis developing countries

  • @joshhennen
    @joshhennen 7 лет назад +7

    meet my best friend, "the state", yes i know its imaginary but it promises to take care of all my problems so of course I love it!

    • @galek75
      @galek75 4 года назад +2

      Bullshit, its as real as country clubs, libraries, and families.

  • @miladketabi8201
    @miladketabi8201 6 месяцев назад

    Educating and thought provoking. But with multiculturalism, among other factors some of which mentioned in the lecture, “the common good” has itself increasingly become yet another fiction! The fictional state, if my points holds water, whose conceptualisation was meant to legitimise something, itself desperately is in need of justification.

  • @yodrewyt
    @yodrewyt Год назад +1

    It's just like a modern intellectual to begin by denying the possibility of defining the concept he is going to discuss. Now he can put over whatever ideology he wants through his concrete-bound method, while denying having an ideology. As if political science could be non-ideological. Politics is a branch of philosophy. No one can avoid having one as it integrates all our other conceptual knowledge. Which we need in order to live. What a dishonest twat. But, again, that's modern academics for you.

    • @petergeddes6652
      @petergeddes6652 Год назад

      He doesn't deny having an ideology, does he? at the beginning he criticises attempts to formulate the state that claim to be value-neutral

    • @gonx9906
      @gonx9906 8 месяцев назад +1

      He is making a genealogy of the concept dude, did you even pay attention to the lecture?