I was a mod from '64 to '66 for me it was Soho, London the epicentre of mod culture. The all-nighters such the Scene, Flamingo, Last Chance, the The Freight Train cafe, and of course the clothes shops around Carnaby street. Great time to be young. I don't remember any off my mod friends having scooters though, we either drove minis or used the Tube. I am 76 and still am a mod at heart.
I remember the scene and the 'mingo, Tiles in Oxford Street the roaring twenties and notre dame round the back of Leicester Square and the coffee ann close to trafalgar Square where every one would meet up after the clubs shut but didn't want to go home because they were still speeding we'd wait for Tiles to open in the afternoon 😅great times
I'm a 70 year old rocker and really enjoyed your video. I know a few of the old mods in my home town who still live and breathe the mod lifestyle. Nowadays we all just have a few beers together and remember the good old days! Our respective cultures have both stood the test of time!
Especially out in the provinces, mods and rocker culture continued long after it's peak in 1964. I'm four years younger than this gentleman, but even I had a Lambretta scooter and dressed in later mod fashion in the mid-70s. There were even violent clashes between Rockers and Punks in the mid-70s. It was more about music and style, rather than some prescribed chronology. I even remember seeing Teddy Boys well into the 60s and early 70s, over a decade after their peak in the 1950s. I'd suggest if you still smell bs, stop talking out your arse.
@@peterreid9769. I smell someone who wasn't there and doesn't know history. Mod and Rocker culture, fashion and music was alive long after 1964. I was there and my memory is fine.
There wasn’t really that much fighting between Mods and Rockers, it was whipped up by the newspapers to fill in for slow news. It was the original “Moral Panic”.
It certainly wasn't as violent as today. I don't recollect a single mod or rocker being stabbed throughout that time. Compare and contrast with the Notting Hill Carnival...
@@mjh5437 lol. but I knew a guy, who was in that scene back then, he had some amazing stories. Also know guys from back then that have great Beatnik stories, Rocker stories and Hippie stories. Seems like a fun time to have been young but was a little dangerous too. However, not as crazy and dangerous as now.
I was a mod from 64-67 I think. My first love, going to Brighton on his scooter, up to London clubs, getting mum to make me enough clothes so I didn’t have to wear the same clothes every weekend, the explosion of new bands and music. What a great time to be 17>
My sisters were Mods. The violence between Mods and Rockers was totaly exagerated, so was the drugs situation. On Tyneside in the 60 drugs were unheard of.
I was a Mod from 1964 to 1967. My BF had a scooter. Few people outside London and maybe one or two big cities were "Mods". Most of rural England completely missed the 60s so called 'revolutions'. I have discovered this. All my life I've talked to people not brought up in London, they simply didn't get involved in any of that. Being a Mod wasn't revolutionary and it didn't change anything. Hippies and Woodstock really did change things, in terms of Ideas. Mod was about clothing records and scooters. Just like being a Rocker was about clothing, motorbikes and records. Don't make this thing bigger than it really was. If it wasn't for Pete Townsend (who was never a mod btw) and his movie, Mod would now be forgotten forever. Mods didn't listen to The Who either, we thought they were just a pop band. WE listened to Soul and Tamla Motown.
I was also one of the original Soho mods, all-nighter at the The Last Chance Saloon then finishing up at the Scene early Sunday morning. At 76 I am still a mod at heart.
You start looking back with a warm, fuzzy feeling at the age of 50. And why not? Every era sucks, when you are honest, but this was the era you were young. So it was great 😁👍.
@@theogantenbein7870To be fair, the 80s was the last great time to be a teenager. Such great music, fashion, movies, and fun things to do. Then it all disappeared and replaced by the grunge era, which wasn’t fun at all.
True story. 1985 , I'm a young Skinhead riding my motorbike to a punk gig. There had been trouble off and on between local and out of town Mods & the Punks and Skins. Unbeknownst to me at the time, I was being followed by a carload of Mods , intent upon pulling me over and giving me a bash. I get to the gig parking lot, pulling up to a group of about 20 fellow skins, the Mods drive away, that was that. A few years later and I'm dating a Mod chick from a smaller town and I go to meet her friends to party, we all hit it off and became fast friends. One night, one of my new friends tells me the story about following me to a gig, and that they were gonna try and bash me, we both split our sides, laughing about it all, and became lifelong friends. Here's to you John. L !
The Rockers were really a left over from the Teds and didn’t really create a style that was vastly different from what went before . Yes their chosen mode of transport was the motorcycle and that necessitated the leather garments etc The Modernists however were completely different and created their own style and culture.
There were incredible lots of fun when you’re 17 or 18th and you live new things every time we went out. Bands, music (it opened up since 1986 to all 60s sounds, for being back to 64-66 around 1989-90, the origins, Ham Yard…), always were new for us. The outfits also changed along the 80s as it was in the 60s, but turning back to the beginnings at late 80s and perhaps it was kept as that cool cat image until the COVID. Later there were mostly disbanding bands, friends and clubs. However, it is raising again in Europe
This is a fascinating video, well narrated! The influence of British subcultures in the 1950s and 1960s was incredible. This era was the swan song of the British Empire, which expired in a pop-cultural renaissance.
Sadly, all gone now. Never to return. Glad I was around back in the 1960s to late 1980s. Yes,,there were hardships, but we all made up for it with diversity back then. Today’s diversity has lost the plot. Music, clothing, styles, a simple way of life have all been lost by the wayside and greed as well as putting oneself first is what it’s all about nowadays. Sade state of affairs.
Sadly, all gone now. Never to return. Glad I was around back in the 1960s to late 1980s. Yes,,there were hardships, but we all made up for it with diversity back then. Today’s diversity has lost the plot. Music, clothing, styles, a simple way of life have all been lost by the wayside and greed as well as putting oneself first is what it’s all about nowadays. Sade state of affairs. Ironic then, that today’s lot are fighting against the so called foreign invasion!
Sadly, all gone now. Never to return. Glad I was around back in the 1960s to late 1980s. Yes,,there were hardships, but we all made up for it with diversity back then. Today’s diversity has lost the plot. Music, clothing, styles, a simple way of life have all been lost by the wayside and greed as well as putting oneself first is what it’s all about nowadays. Sade state of affairs. Ironic then, that today’s lot are fighting against the so called foreign invasion!
My mum n dad were mods born in 1948/1947 respectively they were teens in that era I was born in 82 but the music wat came out of them times is some of the greatest music ever I grew up listening to drum n bass/hip hop but always heard motown beach boys the who led zep then came thin lizzy madness the specials thru my sister then from my brother the pixies stp n many others too many to mention but 60s music is some of my favourite ❤❤❤❤
Late Mods were almost indistiguishable from Suedeheads if the ealy 70s, which evolved into Northern Soul scene. The difference being that NS revolved almost entirely around the music, whuch became even more obscure and esoteric.
I was 11 in 1964 and remember the mods and rockers. Even at that age, I really liked how mod girls dressed and I loved The Who. Like anyone entering their teens and entering adulthood later, I found it a good time yet also very confusing. Everybody likes to belong and be accepted but in many ways belonging to mods or rockers was a false dense of acceptance, as you are often accepted not for who you are but for the people you dislike or hate, the same can be true of what football team you like and which supporters you dislike. Churches and political can also be that way. I chose not to identity n a group and instead led a boring life staying out of trouble.
Well said...Sacha Baron Cohen parodied the same thing with his Ali G character as the kind of white and Asian kids who pretend to "be black" and just end up looking and sounding like total chumps lolol
I was a London Mod. Lambretta scooter (could not afford Vespa) white socks, hush puppies, the nylon Macintosh (with rain flaps), razored hair, Carnaby Street, Ravel shoe shops, Brixton Ram Jam club, 2i's club in Soho, Beatles, Stones. What a glorious decade.
in 64 just started infants school. gangs of older kids came up to me asking if i was a mod or a rocker, i answered mod, so thankfully answered rightly and didn't get a beating.
@sheilafoster6213 forgot to mention that i didn't know what they were talking about being only five years old and my fist days in school, you being 10 years older understood what was going on. Did you join any of these gangs ?
Living, breathing Mod right here in the Motor City. Have to be an Anglophile and dig vintage Vespas, Motown, Bebop, 60Ts, Ska and should know British films like Get Carter and Alfie. (Both w Michael Caine.) But mostly, it's the clothes, clothes, clothes. Just had a Brooks Brothers jumper delivered, and have a closet full of Ben Sherman, Fred Perry and Gabicci shirts, desert boots, Bass Weejuns, Adidas trainers, parkas, and three button suits w narrow lapels, ticket pocket, short cut jacket, with slim cut trousers. There, I just told you more relevant aspects of Mod than this rehashed video showing the same archaic films and the boring old copy that we've all heard a thousand times.
We are cool,are we not. Sorry young-unn these sub cultures died decades ago. Labelling ones self pretty much tells me your far from the real deal. Wear the clothes,listen to the music n watch all the films you like it doesn't make you a Mod. Mod was about being MODERN not rehashing the past..something you seemed to have missed. Silly sausage. PS what you've said is pretty much a boring rehash heard a thousand times by youth thinking they're the real deal.
Mods are the coolest. Me, I'm a small but aspiring comic artist that wants to one day make a comic about England in the 1960s, right in the time of mods. I already have a script. If I ever do something with it, I'll call back.
I was a mod back in the 1960s . I have sill got a silver grey mohair suit I wore when I was 18.. This period 1st got me into music and now I am 73years old and i am still writing and producing music..so yeah!. Once a mod always a mod!.👌.Thanks for this video.🙏❤
@theboofin what you sayin lil buddy, what movie? That doesn’t answer my question if you mean the video we just watched does it now…Maybe get a grown up to read my question I directed at the OP for you. Ty! 🙏🏾
4:12 What has Donavan been smoking? Lonnie Donegan had three number ones in the UK not 22. He had 2 in 1957 and 1 in 1960 which was My Old Mans A Dustman which is hardly high art.
@@freewheelingideasyou simply rehashed the same history that's been told a hundred times, with the same video interviews. You do know that Mod continues today, right?
Scooter was not a 'modern mode of transport'*, was just adopted by mods to differentiate from 'greasers' on motorbikes. * Build by Cushman of USA for military uses in early 40's and used by them as US Army moved through Italy towards end of WW2 and left behind. Piaggio built the Vespa (Wasp in English) in 1946 based on one of the Cushman models.
What a great time it was to be alive . No wonder the establishment hated it and destroyed it in the end. Beatniks, Teddy Boys, mods and Rockers; brilliant!
14:45 The sliver of a face you see in the right portion of this photo... That's a very young Marc Bolan! He was just 15. This photo was taken in 1962. Why was he cropped out??
The image used at 32:02 was taken by Photographer Janette Beckman, from her book, "Made in the uk (the music of attitude 1977-1984) The guy on the far-left is Anthony Treadwin, my old mate.
For me - a London Mod since 1964 - the popularity dropped off of the 'front pages' when the Small Faces released Itchicoo Park. Everything seemed to change then. Fashions went hippy, Music went psychedelic, scooters dropped in favour of camper type vans. I still keep the flag flying (and the fox tail) on my mobility scooter. A mod body and S-O-U-L, even though the body bit is now falling apart.
Many forget that the original Teddy Boys paid much attention to their appearance, and dressed very sharply. The ‘Teds’ of the 1970’s Rock ‘n’ Roll revival era were largely scruffier.
Good post...many thanks...1979 mod and rocker revival...at this time as a teenager in my village it was brilliant...we had mods with their sisters make up. rockers(i had a beautiful BSA 650T), skinheads, punks, rude boys, and even normal people😂...great days.
I have friends who still live that lifestyle and I’m in Toronto. So I can say with 100% certainty that you sir are correct. Loved the short Documentary.
11/2024....70 year old, Boomer from USA,..here. When I was coming of age, it was the Summer of 1969 & the Woodstock music festival that influenced me and my mates. I was 16 in 1969. The counterculture had also already arrived. That summer, it was my goal to get stoned on Marijuana for my first time. As luck would have it, Hashish was readily available, and it was cheap, and stronger than the Grass, being passed around. So I began my "mind expansion" journey on it. Older siblings were already experimenting with LSD, (or Acid) but I didn't try it, until a couple years later. The Beatles arrived in the USA in 1964, when I was 11,.....too young to participate, or know what was going on. The Beatles, and their clothing & hair styles, very quickly began to influence our manner of dress.
This is the finest presentation of where American rock and roll culture came from. It is assumed in America that we originate every aspect of our being. Simply untrue. Many also presume that the Brits stole our music and sold it back to us. Pretty arrogant, but an accurate description of attitudes here. The truth is that both youth cultures became so prominent that they fed on each other until the world in general finally acknowledged what was happening. By 1966 American youth culture had devoured everything British. At this point music was the epicenter of the culture. Fashion and other factors were secondary, and the Vietnamese war became very central to everyone.. Thanks for sharing this footage and explanation. Hopefully today’s youth will pause long enough to understand where this came from.
@@allenkennedy6748 I disagree. American youth consumed any music that caught their ear, didn't matter where it came from. Same thing with British youth., British youth loved American motown ( RnB soul ), and early rock and roll, , American youth returned the favor. It was a phenomenon taking place in real time in both countries with various bands borrowing ideas from other various bands. There has never been a need to say "we did it first", it was mutual love for great music.
As a teenager in the 1960s my passion was motorcycles so I dressed appropriately but when out on the town I dressed like a Mod, most of my friends were Mods but most of them drove around in second hand minis the scooters some of my friends had were Vespa, Durkopp & NSU.
G'day to you! Wore Leather Jacket and Long Silk Scarf in UK, came to OZ and wound up wearing Boots and Braces riding a Vespa and Loving SKA, a real about Face lol! Armadale West Aust.
1961/2 Working class Grammar School at the Oval, south London with a very strict school uniform policy. Dave Williment suddenly posing with legs spaced apart and hands behind his back. His school tie with a vicious tight knot ; 15:39 and his shirt sporting ‘spear point’ collars. “What’s this Dave?” - “I’m a Modernist, innit”. ***** On reflection I think that those Rockers were proto Trump supporters and the Mods were proto multicultural Libs. **** Great doc!
Remember in early 80s when mods made a come back Somebody decided to do a mod night at the brit rowing club next to river tent and a biker night at the boat club . Didnt end up well
The blonde girl at 10:25 should’ve hung out at Andy Warhol’ Factory with Edie Sedgwick, and the girl at 11:46 could’ve been the singer of Shocking Blue!
One aspect that couldnt be denied - the Mod girls were way prettier. The Mods used Amphetamines and the Rockers were beer drinkers. Both sides viewed cannabis as art school hippie rubbish. John Lennon said he was a Mocker..
In the interviews ive seen given by the first mods who were about in 1959 said of seeing the Italian and French cafe workers in soho riding around on vespas that wàs the inspiration for adopting the transport
Rock and roll was the true revolutionary movement that gave rise to many subcultures such as the mods, which is the transition simply called ROCK, which gave rise to the hippie movement with its epicenter in San Francisco, which in turn had a lot of influence on the creation of Silicon Valley.
Mods were the basic of Skinheads too. Mods wanted to hide their working-class roots by dressing smartly, but they were also rebellious and very outspoken. Skinheads took this up as a counterculture to the hippies. However, since they were very proud of their working-class roots, they also dressed accordingly. The transition from mods to skinheads was the Suedheads.
I was born and lived until I was 17 in Liverpool, England. I dressed as a mod, but was never interested in the stupid violent side that some idiots engaged in. I had the mod haircut and wore the fashionable mod clothes. I couldn’t afford my own scooter but I did drive on the back of my mates scooter. It was interesting times to be a teenager in Liverpool, where the Merseybeat was rocking.
I was a mod from '64 to '66 for me it was Soho, London the epicentre of mod culture. The all-nighters such the Scene, Flamingo, Last Chance, the The Freight Train cafe, and of course the clothes shops around Carnaby street. Great time to be young. I don't remember any off my mod friends having scooters though, we either drove minis or used the Tube. I am 76 and still am a mod at heart.
I remember the scene and the 'mingo, Tiles in Oxford Street the roaring twenties and notre dame round the back of Leicester Square and the coffee ann close to trafalgar Square where every one would meet up after the clubs shut but didn't want to go home because they were still speeding we'd wait for Tiles to open in the afternoon 😅great times
I'm a 70 year old rocker and really enjoyed your video. I know a few of the old mods in my home town who still live and breathe the mod lifestyle. Nowadays we all just have a few beers together and remember the good old days! Our respective cultures have both stood the test of time!
Really? You'd have been 10 in 1964. I smell bs.
Especially out in the provinces, mods and rocker culture continued long after it's peak in 1964. I'm four years younger than this gentleman, but even I had a Lambretta scooter and dressed in later mod fashion in the mid-70s. There were even violent clashes between Rockers and Punks in the mid-70s. It was more about music and style, rather than some prescribed chronology. I even remember seeing Teddy Boys well into the 60s and early 70s, over a decade after their peak in the 1950s. I'd suggest if you still smell bs, stop talking out your arse.
@@WOLFIE-96B-UK so cool..thank you and rock on 🤘
@@ianworley8169look out!!!
@@peterreid9769. I smell someone who wasn't there and doesn't know history. Mod and Rocker culture, fashion and music was alive long after 1964. I was there and my memory is fine.
There wasn’t really that much fighting between Mods and Rockers, it was whipped up by the newspapers to fill in for slow news. It was the original “Moral Panic”.
It certainly wasn't as violent as today. I don't recollect a single mod or rocker being stabbed throughout that time. Compare and contrast with the Notting Hill Carnival...
agree!
According to some of the original Mods, I've talked to Mod gangs could fight among themselves too.
@@captainape6807 They used to fight over who got to use the hairspray and eyeliner and mascara first.
@@mjh5437 lol. but I knew a guy, who was in that scene back then, he had some amazing stories. Also know guys from back then that have great Beatnik stories, Rocker stories and Hippie stories. Seems like a fun time to have been young but was a little dangerous too. However, not as crazy and dangerous as now.
I was a mod from 64-67 I think. My first love, going to Brighton on his scooter, up to London clubs, getting mum to make me enough clothes so I didn’t have to wear the same clothes every weekend, the explosion of new bands and music. What a great time to be 17>
Interviewer: “Are the Beatles mods or are they “rockers?”
Ringo;
“We’re mockers!”
I remember at school suddenly describing themselves as Mockers.
@@JayAr709
I believe Jagger said that. But never heard of Ringo saying it until now.
@@DanGoodman-n4b He says it in “A Hard Day’s Night”. He likely wouldn’t have heard of Jagger when they filmed it.
@@DanGoodman-n4btwas the Beatle not the Stone.
@@jamesfetherston1190 That's pure Ringo!. The stones weren't known for their humour.
My sisters were Mods. The violence between Mods and Rockers was totaly exagerated, so was the drugs situation. On Tyneside in the 60 drugs were unheard of.
Yeah,but in the 2020s indoors toilets are still unheard of in places like Newcastle and Sunderland😁
I was a Mod from 1964 to 1967. My BF had a scooter. Few people outside London and maybe one or two big cities were "Mods". Most of rural England completely missed the 60s so called 'revolutions'. I have discovered this. All my life I've talked to people not brought up in London, they simply didn't get involved in any of that. Being a Mod wasn't revolutionary and it didn't change anything. Hippies and Woodstock really did change things, in terms of Ideas. Mod was about clothing records and scooters. Just like being a Rocker was about clothing, motorbikes and records. Don't make this thing bigger than it really was. If it wasn't for Pete Townsend (who was never a mod btw) and his movie, Mod would now be forgotten forever. Mods didn't listen to The Who either, we thought they were just a pop band. WE listened to Soul and Tamla Motown.
“Mods wielding a scooter chain” … the hardest part of a scooter to get at. LOL
They usually used their handbags instead.
Loved the music loved the clothes 😍.
I am old enough to remember the original mods and was part of the 2 tone revival 1979/80. Driven by Quadrophenia. Great times!
Oh yes, had a Lambretta 150 Li (1961) from 1979-1981.
I was also one of the original Soho mods, all-nighter at the The Last Chance Saloon then finishing up at the Scene early Sunday morning. At 76 I am still a mod at heart.
Me too. In Berlin Germany
We all have complaints about our era and when we turn 70 we look back at it with a warm, fuzzy feeling.
Except for that Vietnam thing.
You start looking back with a warm, fuzzy feeling at the age of 50. And why not? Every era sucks, when you are honest, but this was the era you were young. So it was great 😁👍.
@@theogantenbein7870To be fair, the 80s was the last great time to be a teenager. Such great music, fashion, movies, and fun things to do. Then it all disappeared and replaced by the grunge era, which wasn’t fun at all.
Sooo true... we were younger.
Britain- pre mass immigration, clean and beautiful look at it!
True story. 1985 , I'm a young Skinhead riding my motorbike to a punk gig. There had been trouble off and on between local and out of town Mods & the Punks and Skins. Unbeknownst to me at the time, I was being followed by a carload of Mods , intent upon pulling me over and giving me a bash. I get to the gig parking lot, pulling up to a group of about 20 fellow skins, the Mods drive away, that was that. A few years later and I'm dating a Mod chick from a smaller town and I go to meet her friends to party, we all hit it off and became fast friends. One night, one of my new friends tells me the story about following me to a gig, and that they were gonna try and bash me, we both split our sides, laughing about it all, and became lifelong friends. Here's to you John. L !
Weren’t skins an offshoot of mod?
@@cycologist7069 back in the 60's. That never meant that skins couldn't add mods to the list of boot party candidates.
Not John Loving by any chance!
@@Martin-dq1dk close, but no.
It's what happens when we grow up I'm 74 and best friends with people who I fought in the sixties 😅😅
Poor old London. What a great place it was.
Indeed.
London. Still great…. South London , Brilliant; lived here for over 70 years. On foreign travel people ask, “Where are you from?” - “London”
😢
True Story this too!
"Mod is clean living under difficult circumstances" - Pete Meaden
The Rockers were really a left over from the Teds and didn’t really create a style that was vastly different from what went before . Yes their chosen mode of transport was the motorcycle and that necessitated the leather garments etc
The Modernists however were completely different and created their own style and culture.
There were incredible lots of fun when you’re 17 or 18th and you live new things every time we went out. Bands, music (it opened up since 1986 to all 60s sounds, for being back to 64-66 around 1989-90, the origins, Ham Yard…), always were new for us. The outfits also changed along the 80s as it was in the 60s, but turning back to the beginnings at late 80s and perhaps it was kept as that cool cat image until the COVID. Later there were mostly disbanding bands, friends and clubs. However, it is raising again in Europe
I was a mod and loved it.
Me too
I would have bern, too!
What a awesome video have a great weekend freewheeling ❤😊
Once a mod always a mod ✊keep the faith
‘KTF’ has nothing whatsoever to do with’Mod.’ It’s a slogan associated with Northern Soul, and almost a decade later than the Mod heyday.
Late 70s early 80s Mods went to all-nighters, Brighton Mod weekend have All-nighter Saturdays, also
This is a fascinating video, well narrated! The influence of British subcultures in the 1950s and 1960s was incredible. This era was the swan song of the British Empire, which expired in a pop-cultural renaissance.
@@j.g.8494 thank you 🙏
Sadly, all gone now. Never to return. Glad I was around back in the 1960s to late 1980s. Yes,,there were hardships, but we all made up for it with diversity back then.
Today’s diversity has lost the plot.
Music, clothing, styles, a simple way of life have all been lost by the wayside and greed as well as putting oneself first is what it’s all about nowadays.
Sade state of affairs.
Sadly, all gone now. Never to return. Glad I was around back in the 1960s to late 1980s. Yes,,there were hardships, but we all made up for it with diversity back then.
Today’s diversity has lost the plot.
Music, clothing, styles, a simple way of life have all been lost by the wayside and greed as well as putting oneself first is what it’s all about nowadays.
Sade state of affairs.
Ironic then, that today’s lot are fighting against the so called foreign invasion!
Sadly, all gone now. Never to return. Glad I was around back in the 1960s to late 1980s. Yes,,there were hardships, but we all made up for it with diversity back then.
Today’s diversity has lost the plot.
Music, clothing, styles, a simple way of life have all been lost by the wayside and greed as well as putting oneself first is what it’s all about nowadays.
Sade state of affairs.
Ironic then, that today’s lot are fighting against the so called foreign invasion!
The Beatles have absolutely nothing to do with Mods.
@@schrisdellopoulos9244 now that's not what I heard from an original mod who said they played more Beatles records than Who records at the time.
Awesome. The UK wishes THIS were their problems now...
Talking about my generation!!!!❤❤❤❤
My mum n dad were mods born in 1948/1947 respectively they were teens in that era I was born in 82 but the music wat came out of them times is some of the greatest music ever I grew up listening to drum n bass/hip hop but always heard motown beach boys the who led zep then came thin lizzy madness the specials thru my sister then from my brother the pixies stp n many others too many to mention but 60s music is some of my favourite ❤❤❤❤
Late Mods were almost indistiguishable from Suedeheads if the ealy 70s, which evolved into Northern Soul scene. The difference being that NS revolved almost entirely around the music, whuch became even more obscure and esoteric.
I like Ringo's reply when asked "Are you a Mod or a Rocker? To which he replied, Neither, I'm a Mocker."
There`s an echo in here.
I was 11 in 1964 and remember the mods and rockers.
Even at that age, I really liked how mod girls dressed and I loved The Who.
Like anyone entering their teens and entering adulthood later, I found it a good time yet also very confusing.
Everybody likes to belong and be accepted but in many ways belonging to mods or rockers was a false dense of acceptance, as you are often accepted not for who you are but for the people you dislike or hate, the same can be true of what football team you like and which supporters you dislike.
Churches and political can also be that way.
I chose not to identity n a group and instead led a boring life staying out of trouble.
Well said...Sacha Baron Cohen parodied the same thing with his Ali G character as the kind of white and Asian kids who pretend to "be black" and just end up looking and sounding like total chumps lolol
I was a London Mod. Lambretta scooter (could not afford Vespa) white socks, hush puppies, the nylon Macintosh (with rain flaps), razored hair, Carnaby Street, Ravel shoe shops, Brixton Ram Jam club, 2i's club in Soho, Beatles, Stones. What a glorious decade.
Dghx
Vidal Sassoon haircuts, long, leather coats and mini skirts.
Bowie was a mod
Ravel shoe shops! There's a blast from the past! Happy memories.
in 64 just started infants school. gangs of older kids came up to me asking if i was a mod or a rocker, i answered mod, so thankfully answered rightly and didn't get a beating.
Asked an infant??? What a load of b* llocks, round that time, if 64, Mod would have been dying out by then anyway as you'd been born in 1960
@@Peter-cz8hx I am 75 years old , and that happened to me at school
@sheilafoster6213 forgot to mention that i didn't know what they were talking about being only five years old and my fist days in school, you being 10 years older understood what was going on. Did you join any of these gangs ?
@@Peter-cz8hx no I did not , but loved mod music and clothes 😻
I remember them days. Lol. 😂
Living, breathing Mod right here in the Motor City. Have to be an Anglophile and dig vintage Vespas, Motown, Bebop, 60Ts, Ska and should know British films like Get Carter and Alfie. (Both w Michael Caine.)
But mostly, it's the clothes, clothes, clothes. Just had a Brooks Brothers jumper delivered, and have a closet full of Ben Sherman, Fred Perry and Gabicci shirts, desert boots, Bass Weejuns, Adidas trainers, parkas, and three button suits w narrow lapels, ticket pocket, short cut jacket, with slim cut trousers.
There, I just told you more relevant aspects of Mod than this rehashed video showing the same archaic films and the boring old copy that we've all heard a thousand times.
We are cool,are we not.
Sorry young-unn these sub cultures died decades ago.
Labelling ones self pretty much tells me your far from the real deal.
Wear the clothes,listen to the music n watch all the films you like it doesn't make you a Mod.
Mod was about being MODERN not rehashing the past..something you seemed to have missed.
Silly sausage.
PS what you've said is pretty much a boring rehash heard a thousand times by youth thinking they're the real deal.
Sorry,love mod died decades ago
Mod is modern not rehashing the past.
Your not the real deal you think you are.
I am still a mod. Became one in 1979
2nd Gen and cool 😎
Mods, flower children, hippies.
Mods are the coolest. Me, I'm a small but aspiring comic artist that wants to one day make a comic about England in the 1960s, right in the time of mods. I already have a script. If I ever do something with it, I'll call back.
Very cool 😎
26:12 Sometimes, always , never! Eddie Piller will be flipping out!
I was a mod back in the 1960s . I have sill got a silver grey mohair suit I wore when I was 18.. This period 1st got me into music and now I am 73years old and i am still writing and producing music..so yeah!. Once a mod always a mod!.👌.Thanks for this video.🙏❤
How much would a bespoke tonic mohair suit cost you these days?
03:38 Andy Summers, furure member of The Police, is one of the people at the entrance of The Flamingo
Oh very cool!
Which one is he and how do you know?
@theboofin what you sayin lil buddy, what movie? That doesn’t answer my question if you mean the video we just watched does it now…Maybe get a grown up to read my question I directed at the OP for you.
Ty! 🙏🏾
@theboofin you’re talking gibberish poppet.
@theboofin awww thats so sweet of you to say.. I’ll cherish those words pumpkin pie 🥰🤗
Im 68 still a mod love going to the rallys i have a lambretta just love the music its a way of life
4:12 What has Donavan been smoking? Lonnie Donegan had three number ones in the UK not 22. He had 2 in 1957 and 1 in 1960 which was My Old Mans A Dustman which is hardly high art.
Great video. A very special, short time period. Love the music and the eventual outcome
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Thank you 🙏
It's a pity you didn't talk to anyone who was there.
A pity you didn't move on to more of the next generation with The Jam etc. It was massive at the time and still is.
@@mukkaspec3333 I ran out of time, but I’m planning on a follow up. Stay tuned!
@@freewheelingideasyou simply rehashed the same history that's been told a hundred times, with the same video interviews.
You do know that Mod continues today, right?
Scooter was not a 'modern mode of transport'*, was just adopted by mods to differentiate from 'greasers' on motorbikes. * Build by Cushman of USA for military uses in early 40's and used by them as US Army moved through Italy towards end of WW2 and left behind. Piaggio built the Vespa (Wasp in English) in 1946 based on one of the Cushman models.
@@philjohnstone7553 my dad had a Cushman Eagle when he was a kid, there's an old picture of him on it somewhere around here.
Hey Mick Talbot isn't that old! The two photos from 3.40 are from the mod revival.
My memory recalls Brighton as the venue over the Easter
Does anyone remember the scooter boy scene in the eighties where they customised their scooters with huge forks at the front?
Fascinating study on a very important era for music and culture.
No it really isn't. 😢
Brilliant video 👍🏼🏴
Thank you 🙏 appreciate your support!
I was a Mod from 79 to 87. Absolutely great times.
Always be a Mod inside. Still listen to soul and RnB.
My old mates still into it. 👍
Thanks, Freewheeling!
Fabulous video 😄👍
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you so much 😊
What a great time it was to be alive
. No wonder the establishment hated it and destroyed it in the end. Beatniks, Teddy Boys, mods and Rockers; brilliant!
14:45 The sliver of a face you see in the right portion of this photo... That's a very young Marc Bolan! He was just 15. This photo was taken in 1962. Why was he cropped out??
The image used at 32:02 was taken by Photographer Janette Beckman, from her book, "Made in the uk (the music of attitude 1977-1984) The guy on the far-left is Anthony Treadwin, my old mate.
03:40 Isn't that dude on the right, the one that ended up in the style council?
Mod a way of life, mate.
gay life
We are the Mods !! We are the Mods !!
Using photos of the Merton Parkas a late 1970s Mod revival band to illustrate 1950s/60s mods. Very sloppy.
Agreed, and the photo outside Fat Frog at 4:56 taken in 1979 while filming for Steppin Out
These videos from the sixties are on several different RUclips channels. Boring.
For me - a London Mod since 1964 - the popularity dropped off of the 'front pages' when the Small Faces released Itchicoo Park. Everything seemed to change then. Fashions went hippy, Music went psychedelic, scooters dropped in favour of camper type vans. I still keep the flag flying (and the fox tail) on my mobility scooter. A mod body and S-O-U-L, even though the body bit is now falling apart.
I think I could've been a rocker and I'd probably turn into a mod ...lol.
I was a closet mod. But my elder brother got into motorcycles, so that was that...
Many forget that the original Teddy Boys paid much attention to their appearance, and dressed very sharply.
The ‘Teds’ of the 1970’s Rock ‘n’ Roll revival era were largely scruffier.
Good post...many thanks...1979 mod and rocker revival...at this time as a teenager in my village it was brilliant...we had mods with their sisters make up. rockers(i had a beautiful BSA 650T), skinheads, punks, rude boys, and even normal people😂...great days.
I feel so fortunate to have been born at the right time and place. So many memories here.
Mods came from Modern Jazz rather than Trads from Traditional Jazz, not being more modern.
I have friends who still live that lifestyle and I’m in Toronto. So I can say with 100% certainty that you sir are correct. Loved the short Documentary.
Thank you 🙏
Lonnie Donegan had 3 number one hits not 22 as Donovan stated.
11/2024....70 year old, Boomer from USA,..here. When I was coming of age, it was the Summer of 1969 & the Woodstock music festival that influenced me and my mates. I was 16 in 1969. The counterculture had also already arrived. That summer, it was my goal to get stoned on Marijuana for my first time. As luck would have it, Hashish was readily available, and it was cheap, and stronger than the Grass, being passed around. So I began my "mind expansion" journey on it. Older siblings were already experimenting with LSD, (or Acid) but I didn't try it, until a couple years later. The Beatles arrived in the USA in 1964, when I was 11,.....too young to participate, or know what was going on. The Beatles, and their clothing & hair styles, very quickly began to influence our manner of dress.
Just saw someone I went to school with sitting on a scooter wearing a parka. We left school in 1977. 😂😂😂😂
This is the finest presentation of where American rock and roll culture came from. It is assumed in America that we originate every aspect of our being. Simply untrue. Many also presume that the Brits stole our music and sold it back to us. Pretty arrogant, but an accurate description of attitudes here. The truth is that both youth cultures became so prominent that they fed on each other until the world in general finally acknowledged what was happening. By 1966 American youth culture had devoured everything British. At this point music was the epicenter of the culture. Fashion and other factors were secondary, and the Vietnamese war became very central to everyone..
Thanks for sharing this footage and explanation. Hopefully today’s youth will pause long enough to understand where this came from.
@@allenkennedy6748 thank you so much 😊
Bullshit. You are talking garbage 🗑️
@@allenkennedy6748 I disagree. American youth consumed any music that caught their ear, didn't matter where it came from. Same thing with British youth., British youth loved American motown ( RnB soul ), and early rock and roll, , American youth returned the favor. It was a phenomenon taking place in real time in both countries with various bands borrowing ideas from other various bands. There has never been a need to say "we did it first", it was mutual love for great music.
As a teenager in the 1960s my passion was motorcycles so I dressed appropriately but when out on the town I dressed like a Mod, most of my friends were Mods but most of them drove around in second hand minis the scooters some of my friends had were Vespa, Durkopp & NSU.
G'day to you! Wore Leather Jacket and Long Silk Scarf in UK, came to OZ and wound up wearing Boots and Braces riding a Vespa and Loving SKA, a real about Face lol! Armadale West Aust.
🎶 We Are The Mods , We Are The Mods , We Are We Are We Are The Mods 🎶 🇬🇧
Now that would be interesting if the so called Far right sang that at yesterday's march.. just a thought!! All those union jacks!
1961/2 Working class Grammar School at the Oval, south London with a very strict school uniform policy. Dave Williment suddenly posing with legs spaced apart and hands behind his back. His school tie with a vicious tight knot ; 15:39 and his shirt sporting ‘spear point’ collars. “What’s this Dave?” - “I’m a Modernist, innit”. ***** On reflection I think that those Rockers were proto Trump supporters and the Mods were proto multicultural Libs. **** Great doc!
Thank you 🙏
I am from this period of time. It was pretty amazing! We learned that a sense of style was a good thing.
I always wondered what the Hurdy Gurdy man would like nowadays.
The mod’s obsession with pointed boots destroyed the feet of a generation..
Think youll find rockers whore winklepickers not mods they whore loafers and husspuppy and desert books
Anyone know what that quick snippet of music is 26:23?
Remember in early 80s when mods made a come back
Somebody decided to do a mod night at the brit rowing club next to river tent and a biker night at the boat club .
Didnt end up well
The blonde girl at 10:25 should’ve hung out at Andy Warhol’ Factory with Edie Sedgwick, and the girl at 11:46 could’ve been the singer of Shocking Blue!
I was a mod at that time as were all my mates. They all rode scooters but I had a C15 BSA motorbike. They made me ride behind them!
One aspect that couldnt be denied - the Mod girls were way prettier. The Mods used Amphetamines and the Rockers were beer drinkers. Both sides viewed cannabis as art school hippie rubbish. John Lennon said he was a Mocker..
There's a rumble in Brighton tonight...
It was the birth of the groovy people. They made it all come alive.
the same thing was going on in north America when the Beatles landed here.
Brilliant 👏
@@markblake4425 thank you so much 😊
14:12 And they were both right, fighting over… well, nothing if you think about it.
Ideological differences , just like Warring Countries . Same Ol' , Same Ol'
I think it is called growing up!!!
Sting as "The Face."
In the interviews ive seen given by the first mods who were about in 1959 said of seeing the Italian and French cafe workers in soho riding around on vespas that wàs the inspiration for adopting the transport
My Crazy Uncle Leo (RIP) rode a Norton Commando..bad ass cycle...This was in NYC 1960s...
I saw very very few fights . Seriously. I’m not saying it didn’t happen , but I think there was a deep down mutual respect .
Gotta love it!
My older brother was a rocker .. he told me rockers had a connection with mods … unfortunately it was with a bicycle chain.
Rock and roll was the true revolutionary movement that gave rise to many subcultures such as the mods, which is the transition simply called ROCK, which gave rise to the hippie movement with its epicenter in San Francisco, which in turn had a lot of influence on the creation of Silicon Valley.
I can remember some really bad brawls between Teddy boys and punk Rockers in the late 70s.weapons used etc.
Mods were the basic of Skinheads too. Mods wanted to hide their working-class roots by dressing smartly, but they were also rebellious and very outspoken. Skinheads took this up as a counterculture to the hippies. However, since they were very proud of their working-class roots, they also dressed accordingly. The transition from mods to skinheads was the Suedheads.
Good to see someone knows their history
I learned about this while living in England in the late 70's.
"Are you a Mod or a Rocker? 'I'm a Mocker"
I was born and lived until I was 17 in Liverpool, England. I dressed as a mod, but was never interested in the stupid violent side that some idiots engaged in. I had the mod haircut and wore the fashionable mod clothes. I couldn’t afford my own scooter but I did drive on the back of my mates scooter. It was interesting times to be a teenager in Liverpool, where the Merseybeat was rocking.
Luv the scooters
Ha Ha ! Overturning deck chairs !
Come on now how dangerous is that?
That fellah who said he took 20/30 tablets a night ??? Jesus those drugs must have been crap … 😂😂
20 to 30 dupes to stay up allnight? He is having a laugh. Five would do the job