That was a beautiful deadlift to be sure. Grip is connected to the CNS too, I do a dead hangs every morning to feel out my grip strength and if it is not feeling decent by the third hang I'll know my CNS is taxed and I need to take it easier that day.
Throw some protein in brother….mix it with the ice cream. Don’t wanna get sick back to back again like the 180 AMRAP period. Like watching ur videos bro. Thanks for making them.
I always have to take it easy for a while after max effort deadlifts. Sometimes i can do a week of normal training for the rest of the body, but i will pay for that the next week, usually with interest. I take a few days of deload on everything, after deadlifts, then take it easy on the big, systemic compounds for one more week.
Over the years you've continuosly been climbing on your journey to reach higher numbers. In a way, metaphorically, by reaching this milestone of 280kg in the deadlift, your body feels like a climber on their way up to a mountaintop. After a while of building strength, the body and the CNS need a bit of time to adapt to this new state of metabolism. Let a couple of weeks, maybe a month ot two pass, and you will be back on track towards the next milestones. You got this 🍀🏋♂️⚡️
I had to stop for 3 weeks due to lower back issues. I tried a few days off, a week off, but it would always hurt again. It’s been 3 weeks now and I think it’s ok. I’ll try working out again tomorrow.
This is a great reminder that slow grinding lifts stress us out more than we expect. Chasing stress in the gym isnt sustainable i wish i wouldve known that when i started
For me sometimes when I get crazy fatigue like that I can hardly sleep that night, probably that's even worse than no appetite. Ironic sometimes we can't get recovery when it's needed the most.
I feel the same way with appetite. I get really fatigued and lose the desire to eat. I’ll feel like I want to fast fora few days as soon as I start to deload.
Firstly congratulations on your lift well i guess this lower back soreness was expected aslong as its only muscular skeletal lol . Just keep on pushing the way your progressing lately i'll put money on that you'll overtake even Kevin Booey in the near future
Recently, I just noticed that my bar is uneven on my shoulders when I do squats. What could be the cause? It just happened to me, I don't feel anything unusual while doing a squat
Hey Ivan not sure if you've discussed this recently but would love to hear your general take on getting a strong deadlift. I've seen you mention barbell rows for example
Hey man. Yeh I’ve spoken at length about this over the last month. I’ve also made a 1 hour long video for the patreon guys. There’s lots to unpack but essentially it depends on what you need. For me it’s been barbells rows. Also quad work has been key too.
I watch like every 20th video of you and I haven't watched one yet where you are not complaining. I don't say it as a hater but rather as an observation. Either i'm extremely lucky just landing on those type of videos or maybe it's time to have some days with empty barbell if you want to keep squating daily.
I’m honest. That’s about it. I give you my thoughts. It’s not all roses. That’s for sure. On the daily there are battles. Physical and mental. It’s not easy to push every day.
@@theeternelyeboii6784 That honestly doesnt address anything I wrote. It's okay if he refuses to take my advice I don't give a damn. But the 'doing it for years' is not really an argument to counter the same man complaining. It's like saying doing drugs is okay as Ronnie has been doing them for years and has non regrets. I'm not yes man so I voice my opinion. But in general well fair enough, i'm not here to tell anyone what to do. As I said it's just my observation.
Think you might just be unlucky. I watch loads where Ivan is super positive and buzzing about training and how he's feeling. Training is always ups and downs. Maybe every 20th day he hits a challenge and the RUclips algorithm finds you. Don't forget the title of the more 'complaining videos' might be more enticing to click on, whether that be subconsciously.
I used to carry a sandwich baggie full of Argentine beef liver pills fortified with B vitamins at work while pouring concrete and would take them throughout the day, worked great, then somebody decided liver pills were bad for us so you could no longer get them in the USA. It was great while it lasted though. Never had any side effects from them, and my recovery was great.
@@IvanDjuric300 don't remember the exact reason, this was almost 45 years ago. It was a supplement that worked like it claimed and was sold at a decent price, if they were available tomorrow l would be first in line to buy them. Most days I was taking them at work it was the only food source until I got home and ate actual food
At this point, you are ahead of my peak lifts. I did them in my early forties. For me, the risk to reWard was not worth it. All this stuff accumulates and the piper has to. be paid. I know how it feels to go through the competitive, highly motivated mindset, but when you move on, it is no big deal, you find something else that takes its place and allows you to pour in massive effort in a different direction. For me, conditioning is king. Strength is part of it, but conditioning is more than strength. All this physical endeavour has downsides whatever you do, but I think powerlifting is not the best idea for over 40 training. No doubt Ivan will push this further, but at some point, walking away as a winner could well be the best idea, rather than making ever greater gambles to eek out the gains. As the years add up, the issues do. Teeth, joints, the spine….maybe it’s not Russian roulette but the more sessions on the big weights, the greater the probability of a “ Ronnie Coleman” outcome. When I competed, the coach wore a neck brace for years, walked with a stick.
Damn. That’s not something that I’d like. I want to walk and be strong till the day I die. You’re right, at some point a step back will be needed. I think I’ll be fine. I’m always in the conservative side. I don’t like pushing to the absolute max. Yesterday I pushed too hard. That lift was too slow. But now I’ll back off.
@@IvanDjuric300 I think in your position I would be thinking of a few more years. But 40 and out. Singing when you are wining. Plenty of ways to train.
@@IvanDjuric300 I think he means that you maxed out on a DL and then did rows. Both are extremely taxing. Plus squatting everyday is extremely unusual for most people. I think he is referring to the number of days you've been squatting in a row plus all the other work you put into the gym would snap most people up.
Something you can try to do to fire up your appetite are sit-ups (preferably decline) or leg raises (on a decline/incline bench). That will get blood into the abdomen and most likely increase your appetite.
Your body uses lots of broken down muscle (protein) from training to repair itself as a mechanism to help you recover when there is no food available (ancient times) - my guess is the CNS is on overdrive to repair itself and thus moves energy (and therefore appetite) away from the stomach because you would spend even more energy to digest the food and not be able to recover (ancient times.) Just my thoughts.
Calories don't necessarily mean new tissue growth. The body isn't that simple. Autophagy and tissue repair can be quite complex. If you're not hungry then don't eat. Trust your instincts
@@tylerjpitt3388we often feel hungry after a big exertion. It is a common concept. If you are not hungry then you don't need the extra calories that you would get from that meal.
@@tylerjpitt3388 I see plenty of lifters who think overeating turns to muscle tissue. Most of them gain 10 pounds of fat for less than 1 pound of muscle. 10/1 fat/muscle isn't acceptable for me. So, yes, if you want a bunch of fat gain then load up. I meant muscle tissue. I don't want fat tissue
Post workout icecream gang gang 🍦 🍨 Well that's really interesting. Usually people become very hungry after a workout. Wow. That might be super effective for weight loss in your case. You just workout really hard and lose your appetite too - very complementary.
We always want to outsmart the body...but I believe the body knows what it needs the best.
That’s for sure
@@IvanDjuric300i commented on your PR vid it's inviting injury to pr that often. Need to at least six weeks between your body is too fatigued
That was a beautiful deadlift to be sure. Grip is connected to the CNS too, I do a dead hangs every morning to feel out my grip strength and if it is not feeling decent by the third hang I'll know my CNS is taxed and I need to take it easier that day.
that's actually great advice.
yup,he really connected himself to the floor and barbell and pushed pushed pushed,it was looong but mechanically very very nice
I feel like chest supported rows would be best after deadlifts. Barbell rows after deadlifts is absolutely brutal for the erectors.
Throw some protein in brother….mix it with the ice cream. Don’t wanna get sick back to back again like the 180 AMRAP period.
Like watching ur videos bro. Thanks for making them.
Yeah next step is Ivan embracing the anabolic window shaker
Yeh protein is definitely needed. That’s for sure. I hope I don’t get sick. That would be a disaster.
Vitamin D is key. C too. And animal fat.
Get some protein shakes in with that ice cream too. Some fruit if you can. I find grazing works well when i am feeling the way you are describing.
I always have to take it easy for a while after max effort deadlifts. Sometimes i can do a week of normal training for the rest of the body, but i will pay for that the next week, usually with interest. I take a few days of deload on everything, after deadlifts, then take it easy on the big, systemic compounds for one more week.
Over the years you've continuosly been climbing on your journey to reach higher numbers. In a way, metaphorically, by reaching this milestone of 280kg in the deadlift, your body feels like a climber on their way up to a mountaintop. After a while of building strength, the body and the CNS need a bit of time to adapt to this new state of metabolism. Let a couple of weeks, maybe a month ot two pass, and you will be back on track towards the next milestones. You got this 🍀🏋♂️⚡️
can you explain your deadlift setup? the thing you're doing with your knees
I had to stop for 3 weeks due to lower back issues. I tried a few days off, a week off, but it would always hurt again. It’s been 3 weeks now and I think it’s ok. I’ll try working out again tomorrow.
Noti gang gang
Respect
This is a great reminder that slow grinding lifts stress us out more than we expect. Chasing stress in the gym isnt sustainable i wish i wouldve known that when i started
Yeh for sure. The slower the lift goes the worse it is.
For me sometimes when I get crazy fatigue like that I can hardly sleep that night, probably that's even worse than no appetite. Ironic sometimes we can't get recovery when it's needed the most.
I feel the same way with appetite. I get really fatigued and lose the desire to eat. I’ll feel like I want to fast fora few days as soon as I start to deload.
Sorry, but your pain was our gain. All of your lifts are inspiring, but that DL out of this world inspiring
You said ice cream for recovery. Im going to run with that idea. A post workout tub of ice cream 😜
Man it’s been my secret weapon I swear. I lose appetite easily. So I need something with a punch.
I'm tired too. You and I will be POPPY TOMORROW!!!!!💪🤝🏋️♂️🏀
What did the squat portion of your workout look like with warm-up sets (and back-off sets)?
Chocolate and pistachio, simple but I can easily eat 2 litres a day.
Firstly congratulations on your lift well i guess this lower back soreness was expected aslong as its only muscular skeletal lol .
Just keep on pushing the way your progressing lately i'll put money on that you'll overtake even Kevin Booey in the near future
Oh man that’s a huge challenge. Kevin is super strong.
The soreness is all muscular. It’s the good pain. I’m happy.
Recently, I just noticed that my bar is uneven on my shoulders when I do squats. What could be the cause? It just happened to me, I don't feel anything unusual while doing a squat
Hey Ivan not sure if you've discussed this recently but would love to hear your general take on getting a strong deadlift. I've seen you mention barbell rows for example
Hey man.
Yeh I’ve spoken at length about this over the last month. I’ve also made a 1 hour long video for the patreon guys.
There’s lots to unpack but essentially it depends on what you need. For me it’s been barbells rows. Also quad work has been key too.
I watch like every 20th video of you and I haven't watched one yet where you are not complaining. I don't say it as a hater but rather as an observation. Either i'm extremely lucky just landing on those type of videos or maybe it's time to have some days with empty barbell if you want to keep squating daily.
He’s been doing it for five years, I think he’ll be okay
I’m honest. That’s about it. I give you my thoughts. It’s not all roses. That’s for sure. On the daily there are battles. Physical and mental. It’s not easy to push every day.
@@theeternelyeboii6784
That honestly doesnt address anything I wrote. It's okay if he refuses to take my advice I don't give a damn. But the 'doing it for years' is not really an argument to counter the same man complaining. It's like saying doing drugs is okay as Ronnie has been doing them for years and has non regrets. I'm not yes man so I voice my opinion. But in general well fair enough, i'm not here to tell anyone what to do. As I said it's just my observation.
@@IvanDjuric300 👍
Think you might just be unlucky. I watch loads where Ivan is super positive and buzzing about training and how he's feeling.
Training is always ups and downs. Maybe every 20th day he hits a challenge and the RUclips algorithm finds you.
Don't forget the title of the more 'complaining videos' might be more enticing to click on, whether that be subconsciously.
its way harder not to train than it is to train
Prince of 280KG
I used to carry a sandwich baggie full of Argentine beef liver pills fortified with B vitamins at work while pouring concrete and would take them throughout the day, worked great, then somebody decided liver pills were bad for us so you could no longer get them in the USA. It was great while it lasted though. Never had any side effects from them, and my recovery was great.
Why would they be bad. Liver is awesome. Maybe the pill was bad for some other reasons. Production perhaps wasn’t best.
@@IvanDjuric300 don't remember the exact reason, this was almost 45 years ago. It was a supplement that worked like it claimed and was sold at a decent price, if they were available tomorrow l would be first in line to buy them. Most days I was taking them at work it was the only food source until I got home and ate actual food
At this point, you are ahead of my peak lifts. I did them in my early forties. For me, the risk to reWard was not worth it. All this stuff accumulates and the piper has to. be paid. I know how it feels to go through the competitive, highly motivated mindset, but when you move on, it is no big deal, you find something else that takes its place and allows you to pour in massive effort in a different direction.
For me, conditioning is king. Strength is part of it, but conditioning is more than strength. All this physical endeavour has downsides whatever you do, but I think powerlifting is not the best idea for over 40 training.
No doubt Ivan will push this further, but at some point, walking away as a winner could well be the best idea, rather than making ever greater gambles to eek out the gains. As the years add up, the issues do. Teeth, joints, the spine….maybe it’s not Russian roulette but the more sessions on the big weights, the greater the probability of a “ Ronnie Coleman” outcome.
When I competed, the coach wore a neck brace for years, walked with a stick.
Damn. That’s not something that I’d like. I want to walk and be strong till the day I die.
You’re right, at some point a step back will be needed.
I think I’ll be fine. I’m always in the conservative side. I don’t like pushing to the absolute max. Yesterday I pushed too hard. That lift was too slow. But now I’ll back off.
@@IvanDjuric300 I think in your position I would be thinking of a few more years. But 40 and out. Singing when you are wining. Plenty of ways to train.
Damn, Ivan, how many nba jerseys do you have? 😂
Now we wait for the two weeks annual leave and you pull 285kg
Oh man that would be epic man. I gotta recover from this pull first tho. Annual leave would definitely help that.
280 will do that to you
Hahaha yeh that’s it
algo ivan
Respect
how are u not injured?
What you mean?
@@IvanDjuric300 I think he means that you maxed out on a DL and then did rows. Both are extremely taxing. Plus squatting everyday is extremely unusual for most people. I think he is referring to the number of days you've been squatting in a row plus all the other work you put into the gym would snap most people up.
Here's an idea ,have a rest or at least give the lower body a rest.
Yeh definitely a rest coming up
Something you can try to do to fire up your appetite are sit-ups (preferably decline) or leg raises (on a decline/incline bench). That will get blood into the abdomen and most likely increase your appetite.
Ice cream is a metabolism boosting health-food, brother.
I agree man
Your body uses lots of broken down muscle (protein) from training to repair itself as a mechanism to help you recover when there is no food available (ancient times) - my guess is the CNS is on overdrive to repair itself and thus moves energy (and therefore appetite) away from the stomach because you would spend even more energy to digest the food and not be able to recover (ancient times.) Just my thoughts.
Calories don't necessarily mean new tissue growth. The body isn't that simple. Autophagy and tissue repair can be quite complex. If you're not hungry then don't eat. Trust your instincts
That's nonsense. You need calories to grow.
@@tylerjpitt3388When did I say you didn't? lol
@ryans5476 You said "If you're not hungry then don't eat." If he's training hard he needs the calories.
@@tylerjpitt3388we often feel hungry after a big exertion. It is a common concept. If you are not hungry then you don't need the extra calories that you would get from that meal.
@@tylerjpitt3388 I see plenty of lifters who think overeating turns to muscle tissue. Most of them gain 10 pounds of fat for less than 1 pound of muscle. 10/1 fat/muscle isn't acceptable for me. So, yes, if you want a bunch of fat gain then load up.
I meant muscle tissue. I don't want fat tissue
Post workout icecream gang gang 🍦 🍨
Well that's really interesting. Usually people become very hungry after a workout. Wow. That might be super effective for weight loss in your case. You just workout really hard and lose your appetite too - very complementary.
I know. Heavy weight session I lose appetite. Light weight high volume I get hungry.
Cardio makes me most hungry.
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