Metal Musician Reacts: The Rose (더 로즈) - BABY M/V (1st time hearing The Rose)

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  • Опубликовано: 19 дек 2024

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  • @ladynymue
    @ladynymue 5 лет назад +608

    No one sounds like Woosung. "Sorry" is my favorite song by The Rose but I enjoy all their songs. Great Reaction as usual.

  • @sanne1354
    @sanne1354 5 лет назад +350

    I've seen this said about Woosung before "He sings in cursive." But yes, his voice is very distinctive and unique. The band itself is amazing.

    • @TheChampOfMedium
      @TheChampOfMedium  5 лет назад +24

      I like that

    • @tea_jayy
      @tea_jayy 5 лет назад +25

      About a month ago, a friend and I were trying to describe Woosung's voice to someone who had never heard The Rose and my friend said "He sings in cursive." It was the most accurate thing I'd heard that day.

  • @cloudortruth8762
    @cloudortruth8762 5 лет назад +541

    You should watch either "Red" or "Sorry" next by The Rose. The main vocal is Sammy, or Woosung. He has such an amazing raspy vibrating voice that I dont hear almost ever. The Rose is such a good group but they dont get enough attention from Kpop fans. Only fans of KRock check them out. Please keep reacting to Day6 and The Rose!

    • @headfirstforhalos5598
      @headfirstforhalos5598 5 лет назад +10

      I personally love their OST for Strangers from Hell as well!

    • @uncertainsubscriber4815
      @uncertainsubscriber4815 5 лет назад +1

      @@headfirstforhalos5598 yes! So good!

    • @Gliffyglif
      @Gliffyglif 5 лет назад +4

      Yeah, I really wish there was more crossover between krock and kpop fans!! And also, Hajoon is my bias of the rose, and I'm guessing yours is Sammy?

    • @cloudortruth8762
      @cloudortruth8762 5 лет назад +1

      @@Gliffyglif Good guess but no, mine is either Jaehyeong or Dojoon I can't choose. I am so in love with Sammy's voice though so that's what prompted my comment.

    • @kawaiikitty6817
      @kawaiikitty6817 5 лет назад +1

      I’m not a fan of rock, but I’m liking their music:)

  • @HeavenlyiceDream
    @HeavenlyiceDream 5 лет назад +285

    The Rose is legit , one of the best bands. Woosung has the most emotional voice. He can make you feel any damn way he wants you to and you are just along for the ride. They are sooo smooth

  • @erikoenglish1651
    @erikoenglish1651 5 лет назад +324

    Woosung is great songwriter. Please reaction solo Face MV. His voice so unique.

  • @flyushkifly
    @flyushkifly 5 лет назад +171

    She's in the Rain vote. They're kinda indie k-rock. I could have gone to their Seattle show, but it was in a venue that would have given me a panic attack. I had to console myself that I hate live music. :(((

    • @Gliffyglif
      @Gliffyglif 5 лет назад +3

      Alright, then I'll give my vote to Insomnia

  • @nerasomnia
    @nerasomnia 5 лет назад +67

    Sammy's voice is literally the most satisfying thing.

  • @caleemcclellan7043
    @caleemcclellan7043 5 лет назад +110

    I hope you keep reacting to both day6 and the rose! Jae (day6) and woosung (the rose) are friends, they even have a video together on jaes RUclips channel

  • @alex-od6vh
    @alex-od6vh 5 лет назад +53

    woosung voice is so unique AAHHHHH the rose is such a good band they deserve so much more recognition. i hope you check She's in the rain it's a really beautiful song :(

  • @ela529
    @ela529 5 лет назад +44

    I LOVE THE ROSE AND I COULDN’T BE MORE PROUD, AND THE FACT THAT YOU LIKE DREAMCATCHER AND DAY6 JUST MAKES ME *RESPECT YOU*

  • @soybeans_
    @soybeans_ 5 лет назад +31

    Yesssss woosungs vibrato is his signature, he's one of my favorite vocalists and the rose is one of my fave groups :) Hope you check out Sorry and woosung has a solo EP, the title track is Face!

  • @chocolatelover9147
    @chocolatelover9147 5 лет назад +76

    i would recommend listening to “Strangers” or “insomnia” or “i dont know you”. theyre probably my all time favorites. I think you’d like them and it’d be great if you could look more into The Rose

    • @jelly4627
      @jelly4627 5 лет назад +7

      finally another person recommends strangers 🥺

    • @prikkeroglapper
      @prikkeroglapper 5 лет назад +5

      Yes, Strangers is just 👌

    • @mariepagan1506
      @mariepagan1506 5 лет назад +2

      For awhile I had "I Don't Know You "as my ringtone.

    • @Amanda-ik1wv
      @Amanda-ik1wv 5 лет назад +3

      Strangers, yes!!!!!!!!

  • @kbubbles321
    @kbubbles321 5 лет назад +76

    Ahh! I love the rose! I saw them live last week and woosungs vocals are even better live!
    You should listen to she's in the rain and if you want something a little different woosung has a solo album and the songs face and moon are amazing 🌹

    • @teedub878
      @teedub878 5 лет назад +3

      How amazing to have seen them live! I would love to hear those vocals live!

    • @kbubbles321
      @kbubbles321 5 лет назад +2

      @@teedub878 I recorded a few songs but you know how bad concert videos can look ^^; I'd definitely say go to see them if you get a chance ~

    • @KSS352
      @KSS352 4 года назад +1

      I saw them back in August and it was truly such a good show! They are truly amazing live!

  • @lol0lol0lol
    @lol0lol0lol 5 лет назад +25

    The Rose are *SO* underrated!!! I’m so happy you reacted to them!!

  • @iagocamargo915
    @iagocamargo915 5 лет назад +12

    i love the rose, sad that the world dont know a lot of them

  • @yoyo2.054
    @yoyo2.054 5 лет назад +11

    "the gutarrist has a good vibrato control"
    WAAAAAAAAAAH, I CAN'T SAY THAT BETTER

  • @frozensea3945
    @frozensea3945 5 лет назад +6

    Woosung for me shines in She is in the rain.
    I swear it gives me chills

  • @WickedEcho
    @WickedEcho 5 лет назад +24

    Yessssss! Haven't even watched your reaction yet, just SO GLAD you're checking out The Rose! Guess I should actually watch your reaction now. But thank you in advance!
    Edit: Glad you enjoyed it! Yes, the main singer Woosung (aka Sammy) has a very unique voice for sure. I suggest checking out "Sorry" and "Red" too.

  • @KM-zh6zi
    @KM-zh6zi 5 лет назад +20

    I hadn’t checked out The Rose music before.
    I will be looking into them now!!

  • @KitsuneeM
    @KitsuneeM 5 лет назад +21

    Definitely check out their song "Strangers" It's incredible

    • @ikramkoulij6719
      @ikramkoulij6719 5 лет назад +5

      Seriously, this song is so epic!

    • @eykayang
      @eykayang 4 года назад

      yes, you need to check out this

  • @edensingh7835
    @edensingh7835 5 лет назад +9

    The one with the insane vibrato was Woosung, otherwise known as Sammy. He's actually friends with Jae from Day6! Also, thank you for checking out The Rose! They have a large plethora of incredible songs, so I imagine you'll have a lot of fun diving into their discography, if you choose to.
    And just to be annoying, since I've requested this on a couple of other videos, please react to Awaken by Stray Kids! It's a great song in which they experimented with a more rock-sounding song, while still incorporating their style into it. I think you'd really like it!

  • @cora7480
    @cora7480 5 лет назад +28

    I'm so happy you're checking The Rose! They're sooo good! I love everything about them! Maybe She's in the Rain next? Or Sorry? 💜☂️

  • @BlueHairedNightOwl8588
    @BlueHairedNightOwl8588 5 лет назад +12

    Please check out their songs She's in the Rain and Sorry!!!

  • @bbibbibu
    @bbibbibu 5 лет назад +6

    please please PLEASE react to sorry, she’s in the rain, insomnia and literally every other the rose song. their lyrics and vocals are another level

  • @ManonLcz
    @ManonLcz 5 лет назад +13

    I saw them live during one of their concerts in France and let me tell you be it Day6, The Rose, FTIsland or N.Flying I've seen those 4 kbands in concerts and they are legit better than in studio versions especially FTISLAND

  • @IsabelLee617
    @IsabelLee617 5 лет назад +1

    Ugh all the technical things about this song is so beautiful!!! If you watch the react to the K video, they hit everything that makes this song so amazing from a technical perspective! Definitely my favorite song by the rose! 💜🤩

  • @Raleyska
    @Raleyska 5 лет назад +10

    If you don't stan The Rose, who are you even stanning!

  • @Umla80
    @Umla80 5 лет назад +2

    with all Kpop people sometimes forget that Korea has some great Krock too. I love FTIsland, Guckkasten, Hyukoh, The Rose (im still to get into them but ive heard alot of good about NFlying and Day6). Same was all over the Korean tv show called SuperBand that aired earlier this year Woosung (the singer you liked here in The Rose) was in it competing and tons of other talented artists :)

  • @opinionatedbunny6207
    @opinionatedbunny6207 5 лет назад

    They are amazing and very underrated.. They write and produce their own songs and Woosung's Voice is to die for! Stan The Rose, stan talent.
    All their songs are great.

  • @becalexa
    @becalexa 5 лет назад +1

    if you want more of the guitarist's voice (his name is woosung or sammy) definitely look at his solo, face. i'm not sure if he plays his own music for that one but it shows off his voice super well so i would 100% recommend!!

  • @lilmermaid30
    @lilmermaid30 5 лет назад +1

    YES!!! Thank you! The Rose is so underrated but they are awesome! WooSung voice is so mesmerizing! Thank you for reacting to them!!! ❤️❤️

  • @LiaLucina
    @LiaLucina 5 лет назад +2

    I love the Rose, I saw them live recently and it was AN EXPERIENCE, they’re AMAZING
    I’d love for you to listen to ‘sorry’ (their debut song) my favourite song by them is ‘I don’t know you’ (there’s no MV but you could still check it out I guess 🤷🏻‍♀️)
    Also the guitarist has a solo called ‘Face’ also really cool lol

  • @nuuriaa97
    @nuuriaa97 5 лет назад

    Woosung voice is amazing! One of my fav vocalist ever tbh,, and listening him to sing live is even better!

  • @BlueHairedNightOwl8588
    @BlueHairedNightOwl8588 5 лет назад +1

    Can't wait for more!!!

  • @BangtanNoona
    @BangtanNoona 5 лет назад

    YES! I saw The Rose live in Seattle. They were fantastic. Please continue to react to them You will not regret it. They are very talented and deserve so much more attention! My vote is for the song She's In the Rain.

  • @_illhooniie3995
    @_illhooniie3995 5 лет назад

    Aaaahhh Woosung's voice is very unique and The Rose songs are beautiful. I love them so much. Thank you for reacting to this song!

  • @uncertainsubscriber4815
    @uncertainsubscriber4815 5 лет назад +4

    I also like the bands Bursters, IZ, Onewe, Surl, N.Flying, and many others! I love this song! DAY6 and The Rose are awesome! Check out Bursters if you want screamo! Barriers and Lost Child are great songs from them!

  • @mehu707
    @mehu707 5 лет назад +3

    I'm so happy you are checking them out! You could check out Sorry next!💙
    Edit: Yes! You're definitely going to love Woosung, the lead vocalist. I think yeah, Sorry would be a good second song! And then Red maybe!

  • @bubbke9444
    @bubbke9444 5 лет назад

    The rose are so talented and underrated! I saw the live last year and it was incredible.

  • @jojo.joanna
    @jojo.joanna 5 лет назад

    Thank you for your analysis and reaction to The Rose! It's great to hear someone breaking down how unique Sammy's singing style is and how their roles combine seamlessly into a cohesive sound :)

  • @justcallmeaj2559
    @justcallmeaj2559 5 лет назад

    I literally got into the rose thanks to woosung's amazing voice
    I really love his style and his vibrato

  • @shereejones5965
    @shereejones5965 5 лет назад

    I absolutely love Woosung's voice, so unique. If you could marry a voice I'd marry his :)

  • @lauraregadasresende3709
    @lauraregadasresende3709 5 лет назад +2

    I get chills everytime i hear this music

  • @yihwa_na
    @yihwa_na 5 лет назад +44

    You should check out other bands like N.Flying, Ftisland or Cnblue
    I absolutely love your reactions! I discovered you today and I can say you're great and I can't wait to dig deeper into your channel!
    you have great music taste...damn

    • @mariepagan1506
      @mariepagan1506 5 лет назад +2

      Definitely check out CNBLUE. And yes, even FT ISLAND. They both belong to FNC Music ,along with n.flying. A rockers.
      They have their own bands. Most of the guys are in the army but will be coming out soon.
      CNBLUE rocks out more in Japanese but their music is still great in Korea.i really miss them . But their songs are still available. Please check them out: i'm a Loner (the quartet started out busking in Japan), Intuition, Lie, Black Flower, Drunken Night, Can't Stop, Cinderella, I'm Sorry, and many more. They've won many awards.

  • @estellecosse9656
    @estellecosse9656 5 лет назад

    Thank you for reacting to them and also appreciating their music, they are so underrated.. they deserve so much, i've seen them live twice and it's hella worth it, everyone should see them live it's even more amazing. Thank you again!

  • @isabnf
    @isabnf 5 лет назад +7

    Woosung vocals are AMAZINGGG please react to the sheis in the rain, red and sorry!

  • @lauraregadasresende3709
    @lauraregadasresende3709 5 лет назад +1

    Oh my god i just love The Rose

  • @HallyuHagdom
    @HallyuHagdom 4 года назад

    This was my number one song for 2018 it's amazing.

  • @LeylaKaratas
    @LeylaKaratas 5 лет назад

    Thank you for reacting to The Rose! They're my favourite band. I've seen them live 5 times and they're absolutely amazing ♡ it's crazy how talented they are. Woosung and Dojoon are obviously great vocalist, but the other two have beautiful voices as well, even though they don't really sing on their albums :')
    You should react to Sorry, She's in the rain, Insomnia, OMG and basically any other The Rose song

  • @JediJean
    @JediJean Год назад

    The Rose are now on the North American portion of their Dawn To Dusk Tour, which started 4 Oct in San Francisco and will end 12 Nov in Inglewood, 19 cities in total, playing to thousands of Black Roses every time. They have yet to announce any Europe or Asia dates, but I'm hoping they come to Singapore this time. They have never played here before.

  • @junetrakanchan5499
    @junetrakanchan5499 5 лет назад +1

    YASSSSS!!! OMG THE ROSE!!!!!! they're so underrated

  • @virgg1796
    @virgg1796 5 лет назад

    I am sooo happy that you reacted to The Rose ! I absolutely love them ! You should react to “sorry” or “red” (“red” is more recent). “Face” from Woosung (the main vocalist) is great too :)
    I really like your reactions !

  • @ClumsyMumsy
    @ClumsyMumsy 5 лет назад

    They are really good, glad you've checked them out, please watch some more, they are all very talented :)

  • @QxKou
    @QxKou 5 лет назад

    I'm really glad u liked it please check more of their songs, there's red and she's in the rain

  • @Naturestar44
    @Naturestar44 5 лет назад

    I love the way you broke down Sammy’s vocal style, everyone always compliments it (for good reason!!!) but I’ve never heard someone break it down like that so thank you.

  • @deardream2621
    @deardream2621 5 лет назад

    You'd love "Face", a solo song by Woosung (the main vocalist with the voice you really liked)

  • @jenniferkayersperez125
    @jenniferkayersperez125 4 года назад

    They are amazing live.....Jenny in Houston

  • @jhulyakristiny9628
    @jhulyakristiny9628 5 лет назад

    Omg thank u só much for reacting to them, they don't have much off visibility.. please react go more of their musics

  • @violetstarlight5561
    @violetstarlight5561 5 лет назад

    Woosung will always make my eyes water. Everytime I hear his vocals which is fine.

  • @Amanda-ik1wv
    @Amanda-ik1wv 5 лет назад

    Yyyyyeeessss! I've been waiting for this!! Would love to hear more!

  • @prikkeroglapper
    @prikkeroglapper 5 лет назад

    I'm so glad you liker them, they deserve so much more attention. I hope you do some reactions to FTIsland as well 😁

  • @saikiksoo
    @saikiksoo 5 лет назад +1

    As you can probably tell from my username I’m a big The rose fan (Dojoon plays keyboard) so I really appreciate the reaction, they are so amazing and I’m so glad you enjoyed their music ❤️! Please react to ‘Go back by se so neon’ if you ever get the chance~

  • @nurainihasbullah8134
    @nurainihasbullah8134 5 лет назад

    Keep reacting the rose, they are so amazing😍

  • @jel0neczek1
    @jel0neczek1 5 лет назад

    YAASSS THE ROSE!! I commented on your last video yestarday that you should react to The Rose next and here I have it
    I atteded their concert a month ago and it was the best concert I've ever been to
    You should definetly check out other songs they have! And covers!!

  • @rawna7920
    @rawna7920 5 лет назад

    The rose puts out amazing music! You’ll love ftisland too

  • @ashleylaframboise963
    @ashleylaframboise963 5 лет назад

    i just discovered your channel and i am definitely hitting that sub button. The Rose is so so underrated in kpop, yet Woosung (the main vocalist) has one of the best voices in the industry, in fact I'd say his voice sounds better live then it does in a recording..I mean he is THAT talented, please check out The Rose - ILYSB (live on ksb) to see what I mean, you will not be disappointed

  • @Pancakiii
    @Pancakiii 5 лет назад

    I love love love the rose. Sorry is my favorite but all their songs are amazing. Woosung has my favorite voice in this world, not even kidding.

  • @mamanaf
    @mamanaf 5 лет назад

    Tx fr reacting more bands 💕 FYI Day6 spent their earlier years busking n doin gigs too, opting against the normal weekly korean music shows which cudnt allow them to actually play instruments due to their fast turnaround time.

  • @MrFries4slayer
    @MrFries4slayer 5 лет назад

    I hope you continue to check out the rose! Their songs are soo inspiring and the MVs are beautiful

  • @Purse-uf2fw
    @Purse-uf2fw 5 лет назад

    I love love love The Rose!! I only discovered them a few weeks ago but have fallen h.o.h for them and their music,,Looking forward to you more reviews by you of them,
    Recommend their cover of ILYSB and Red

  • @RozenAngel97
    @RozenAngel97 5 лет назад

    IM SO GLAD YOU FINALLY WATCHED THE ROSE, THANK YOUUU ;AAAAA;

  • @maeherondale4547
    @maeherondale4547 5 лет назад

    I saw them live in Miami in September and it was one of the greatest experiences ever. Also met them. They are tiny lol

  • @17carrotsforlyf
    @17carrotsforlyf 5 лет назад +1

    All of The Rose’s songs are masterpieces!! They’re super underrated krock bands ugghh oml woosung/sammy just has a way of hypnotising you with his unique angelic voice!! Dojoon’s high notes are also amazing too! You need to hear them live tbh! It’ll blow ur mind!
    Can u also react to Seventeen’s Home, Fear or Run to You pls?🙏🏼 for Run to You, there’s no mv but a live stage will be best for it😁

  • @victoriamorishita4354
    @victoriamorishita4354 5 лет назад

    I love your commentary and the way you explain things. Also your cut edits are really funny LOL

  • @alodiaexe
    @alodiaexe 5 лет назад

    thanks for reacting to them! i love your channel❤❤❤❤❤

  • @beenwandering
    @beenwandering 5 лет назад

    omfg I love The Rose, so underrated

    • @beenwandering
      @beenwandering 5 лет назад

      The Rose do not have a single bad song. I don't listen to Woosung's Moon for lyrical reasons but every song The Rose has done and Woosung has done and all the covers are just incredible.

  • @lilyduck4538
    @lilyduck4538 5 лет назад

    I'm happy you're reacting to them!

  • @hypersloth7919
    @hypersloth7919 5 лет назад

    AHHHHHHHHHHH Woosung is so incredible, his voice shakes my soul, seing them in concert next week can t wait!!!!!

  • @nouranhalim180
    @nouranhalim180 5 лет назад

    Dude to me this is the best reaction to this mv

  • @HealthySelfNThrive
    @HealthySelfNThrive 5 лет назад +1

    Woosung is my boooy!!

  • @miloway
    @miloway 4 года назад

    One of my friends has a similar vocal technique like main singer, but she didn't even notice it until I told her about, since I guess it's her natural voice. But I seriously love the main vocals tone in the rose.

  • @teedub878
    @teedub878 5 лет назад

    Your thoughts on The Rose mirrored what I feel also. I have only recently discovered The Rose (like the last month or two). I absolutely adore Woosung's vocals. I've never heard anything like it! And Dojoon's vocals are equally stunning. I love the groups sound. I've enjoyed watching your videos and the information you give regarding the instruments used, and the vocals. Keep up the good work👍

  • @virginiacampos5575
    @virginiacampos5575 5 лет назад

    Well! Definitely worth looking into! Very interesting sound

  • @Kelxya
    @Kelxya 5 лет назад

    Yesssss The Rose!! They have such a unique style, but they definitely don't get anywhere near enough love. Some other bands/groups to check out in the same space would be FT Island, N.Flying, and NELL.

  • @sabrielandoj5748
    @sabrielandoj5748 5 лет назад +1

    I mostly just watch your BTS videos (there’s so much to dig into with kpop I don’t have time for another group) but I decided to take a chance on this one since it’s new for you too. I’m so glad I did, these guys are so good and 100% my taste in music.
    Also if you’re looking for new English language recs you should check out The Fergies. They’re a 5 piece band, all incredible musicians and all amazing singers, plus they also got their start busking. If you do check them out I’d recommend starting with Mercy Mercy. I think it shows off their range and individual talents best for any one song.

  • @kateBeirne
    @kateBeirne 5 лет назад

    New to your channel. I'm a huge fan of the rose and krock. You point out things in the song that I never even heard or thought about. Looking forward to seeing what else you do.

  • @dinare1
    @dinare1 5 лет назад +2

    Day6 and the rose are awesome but also please take a look at ft island, they are an older band. Lee Jong ki has a very unique voice I think you might enjoy.

  • @xX-Sweetbunny-Xx
    @xX-Sweetbunny-Xx 5 лет назад +2

    I think my favorite The Rose song is “Take Me Down” i’m still obsessed with it! Or Insomnia 😔🖤 i love The Rose, They are so talented and oof-

  • @chewydum
    @chewydum 5 лет назад +2

    I think you would really like Hyukoh! It's a korean indie rock band, which is in my opinion one of the best bands that currently exist. They have really specific, but hella good sound and their own style of music.
    Please check out their song Wanili and Chet Faker Gold cover, I would be super happy 🙇‍♀️!

  • @danielahawkins6905
    @danielahawkins6905 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you for reacting to one of my favorite bands! I just found your channel and already subscribed!

    • @danielahawkins6905
      @danielahawkins6905 5 лет назад

      Forgot to add but you should definitely check out N.flying and Onewe! Also the show superband featured alot of amazing musicians ( including the lead singer from the rose )

  • @floralchangbin
    @floralchangbin 5 лет назад

    The Rose live is amazing

  • @elshalionheart
    @elshalionheart 5 лет назад +2

    RED is amazing, and you should also check out Woosung's solo album. I loves it :D

  • @Rossellinique
    @Rossellinique 5 лет назад

    Yup they are another amazing group. The main vocalist has unique voice and can provide emotions very well. But the fact is that all of them can sing, the second guitarist sing often, drummer obviously not really but at their concert he sang cover and he has nice voice.
    Another importand and crazy info is that they sound better live, seriously, a heaven for soul and ears.
    And the thing with them is that sometimes three of them sing in song and sometimes only the main one: Woosung, he also had solo debut more kpop but also interesting.

  • @shannon504
    @shannon504 5 лет назад

    I used to think The Rose was a band of "sad bois" NOPE
    they, for lack of better trems, Rock OUT.
    I saw them live and the energy for INSANE
    also, STAN N.Flying

  • @tae..tae..
    @tae..tae.. 5 лет назад

    You have got to react to them on Superband!
    Breakeven, Sign of the times.. !

  • @stellp2956
    @stellp2956 5 лет назад

    More from The Rose please !!!

  • @TheImmortal868
    @TheImmortal868 5 лет назад +1

    Yass, definitely more of "k-rock" song reactions *_8

  • @luciaemery4155
    @luciaemery4155 5 лет назад

    Woosung the main vocalist in the rose has a solo song called Face and you should really check them out
    Also their song strangers is really something else and I'm hooked on it, really give it a listen.

  • @elizabethbenson9019
    @elizabethbenson9019 5 лет назад

    You have to check out Kim WooSung’s solo song Face. (He is the lead with the white hair)
    And the other Rose songs. Saw them in concert in Chicago and they sound great live too.

  • @EbbnFlow_Design
    @EbbnFlow_Design 5 лет назад

    Aaaay~ Im glad you checked these guys out :D