Klymit VS Nemo Sleep Systems! Pad & Pillow Review
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- Hi Guys, I review and compare the very affordable Klymit Staic V sleep pad and the Klymit Pillow X Large Versus the premium Nemo Tensor Ultra Light sleep pad and the Nemo Fillo pillow. Both of these sleep systems work great and have have their place in your backcountry collection. I take a look at the specs/ quality and price and find what is the best option for a good nights rest in the backcountry!!
"Keep Hiking!"
Base Camp Chris
Klymit Static V sleep pad
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Klymit Pillow x Large
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Nemo Tensor Ultra Light sleep pad
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Nemo Fillo Pillow
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2 of the best companies on the market!! Klymit really focuses on getting people out and adventuring for the best price!! Nemo is from here in New Hampshire and is really high quality top end gear! Another great video Chris!!
Thanks Tim....both work well! I did not know they were out of New Hampshire!
Blowing into the pump sack 😂
And turning blue!
You're supposed to hold it a few inches away from your mouth and let it pull in air from around you.
Otherwise you may as well have just blown straight into the pad.
It called something like the bernoulli effect.
@@ilove2laughnsmile you can make anything look difficult and you did a great job doing that, I only need to blow into my sack maybe three times lightly especially if you follow the directions about pulling it away from your face a little bit to totally inflate my pad
It only takes like 3 breaths to inflate the nemo if you do it right, which is to say hold the pump sack at least 6 inches away when you blow into it.
Thank you for making these camping videos, Chris! They bring me great joy :) Especially the overnight backpacking vlogs!
Glad you like them! Thank you...I'm going to be doing another desert backpacking video in Utah soon!
Great review Chris! Last weekend I could have used either ..just had a thick blanket..was okay but felt some rocks & hips were a bit sore from sleeping on my side.Think I will be just dandy with the klymit! Thanks!
Welcome - Oreo!
Great video and review. I have the Static V and XL pillow and like them both. Regarding filling the Tensor with the sack: you are not doing it right. You have to hold your mouth a few inches away to create a vortex: so your breath is pulling in outside air with it. It takes fewer breaths and less effort. Try it.
I have a Klymit insulated Static V luxe (the extra wide 30 inch) it is great pad for me as I side sleep and roll all over at night. it is like I brought an Air Mattress backpacking its a bit heavy but for a good night sleep its worth it for me.
Im glad you reviewed both pillows as they are both ones im looking at getting and have been going round and round between the two pillows
that's great...glad to help! The 30 wide on the Luxe sounds pretty sweet...I may need to review that one!
@@basecampchris Check our insulated Static V luxe SL - 27 vs 30 from the regular. They are heavy but at 3.5 inches, it is definitely very nice
Thanks Chris great video. Sleep pads are so hard to select. My personal preference. Seasons and average temperatures of use - R value around 1.3 to 2 for 3 season and 4 to 5 for 4 season, ground type, Sizeof pad, Noise the dreaded Thermarest, Thickness and reduction of headspace, moisture barrier. As you said a lot depends on your sleeping bag and ground conditions and temperatures. These both are good options. Thankyou. The s2s or trekology pillows are also good options like everything I guess, its what works for each individual person.
Good thoughts … it is a lot to consider with the sleep pads...yes I've heard good things about the Trekology pillows may have to check it out...$15 bucks too.
"Keep Hiking!"
Good video sounds great view super weather. Great vacation. Good show.
I just bought the Klymit pad and it did not have the same inflate valve as yours did in the video. I wonder if that is brand new and the one I bought was an older model in stock? The valve I have is the old black one. Wish it was the new one as it looks easier.
Sorry to hear..not sure when they made the switch...
I own both pads. The Tensor is SO comfortable. The static V not so much. There is that big price difference though.
Yes...many options out there now days! Tensor is a premium pad and very comfortable! Static works well and is super affordable!
My daughter has the static v i have the tensor the r value is 3.5 on the tensor.
Static v isn't nearly as comfortable
Great video Chris! You mentioned the Klymit pillow fitting the back of your head. Do you think this would be a problem for side sleepers?
Hi Travis, Thank you...the pillow x is high enough 4.25" inflated to meet your head while your laying on your shoulder ( or side sleeping ) the X should work either way - back or side...but only you know what's comfortable for you.
It’s crazy how easy it is to fill up the pump sack.... when you do it the right way. That looked hard!
Yes....6 inches away works best. fill/ roll x3 and done!
You have a wonderful vibe 💙
I have the Klymit Static V Junior (short) because I'm only 5'0" and the Wise Owl Snoozy pillow. It's a memory foam pillow that is very excessive, but totally worth the extra space and weight. I just bought my fiance the Static V Luxe because it was the only pad I could find that was wide enough for his very broad shoulders. I've been contemplating the Static V Insulated Ultralight, but as of now, I don't need a 4 season pad, so it will have to wait.
Pull the Vortex through the air and it fills as good or better.
1. No vapor.
2. You aren’t out of breath.
There ya go...yes. that works! Thanks for watching.
Hello Chris, I really enjoy watching your hiking destinations. A lot of which is close to areas I go to. Great gear reviews also. I must tell you though, that the way to blow up the Nemo pump sack is much easier than your method. I just received my Nemo pad a few days ago, and though I have not had a chance to inflate it yet, I had seen enough RUclips videos that I was aware of the inflation method. You do not put your mouth to the gathered opening, you hold it wide open and blow (usually 1 breath does it) into the opening from 6" to 8" away. It inflates the sack almost instantly, then you fold and roll it. It goes very quickly and doesn't fill the pad with moisture. I gotta admit that watching you blow it up made me out a breath, but then it just might have been that I was laughing too hard. 😉 I gotta give you an A for effort though, as you seemed to be giving that pad a fun for his money. LOL
PS - My pad came with instructions, didn't yours?
Take care, and keep up the good work,
Tom
Hi Tom...Yes ...I'm still figuring it out...I did show a graphic in the video with the correct way to inflate. Seems odd to inflate 6 inches away but it does work. Thanks!
Is there any benefits for a insulated pad if you dont plan on winter camping?
I use the Static V insulated year round. and in the summer it tends to be warmer on hot nights because the insulation holds your body heat. But in return your nice and warm on the cold and damp mornings. Klymit sells 2 different sheets you can use with their pads also that holds the pillow. The nemo is insulated because its designed for the White Mountains and nights/mornings are cold and damp year round.
Thanks Tim!
For Summer use you should be fine even at higher elevations...the 3" will keep you well above the ground...but with colder temps on the shoulder seasons ( spring / fall ) you may notice a difference but your bag will be a factor too. My Static V is the non insulated...I do fine for most 3 season trips.
@@truthbetold916 Thank you.
@@basecampchris Thanks!
Hello Chris, thank you for sharing another very informative video. Please keep up your great videos. All the best of good things for you and your family. 🤗
Thanks Ronald! you too! "Keep Hiking!"
I own both. Just bought the Nemo a couple months ago. For the price, I would suggest Klymite. I use this pad on my cot when overlanding. I do struggle with keeping air in it..BUT that could be user error. Good summer pad. I am not 100% sold on the Nemo yet, still trying to find the perfect grove on this pad. I slide around too much. And my other tent neighbors can hear me. No regrets on purchasing either. For just starting out I would suggest Klymit. Price is perfect for beginner.
Yes the price on the Klymit Static V is great for a beginner during the summer...I recently did a review of the Klymit Static V insulated about $20 more with an R value of 4.4!
Good video. I love my insulated Nemo Tensor extra wide. Pump sack is very handy.
Yes the wide is 25" like a portable bed....in your tent! Thanks for watching!
Is that the Kelty cosmic 20 sleeping bag? If so how do you like it?
Yes it is....rolls up small and fits in my sleep bag compartment on my Atmos 65L but "puffs" out big and cushy once I roll it out. very warm and has the mummy hood but not so tight that I feel trapped...I like!
I have the smaller version of the klymit. I’m also a side sleeper and that center notch is perfect for holding your ear. Inflated pillows tend to be harder than regular pillows and this keeps my ear from being crushed under the weight of my enormous head.
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The way you blew up the nemo pad would keep moisture out of the pad exactly how?
It’s because you’re not breathing straight into it the pad you’re breathing into the inflater witch traps it and the inflater is breathable
Yeah...I believe your supposed to blow about 6 inches above the vortex air sack....I blew directly into it. I showed a photo of the "correct " way in the vid...if you know of a better way to get air in there let me know. Thanks.
I have both and each has its advantage. I can sleep on either one but the Nemo is more comfortable.
The Nemo is the king...almost like a real bed.
Klymit must've updated their air valves because that's way different than what's on mine. The old style valve was HORRIBLE. It's very hard to open and lock closed.
are you Nathan Fielder's brother?
Joke's on you! I use the Klymit pillow WITH the Nemo sleep pad!
(Serious note on the Klymit X-Large pillow: it's a great pillow in general, but on camping trips, I find I want to tuck it into the hood of my sleeping bag, but it won't fit. And if I try to use it without tucking it into the sleeping bag hood, it tends to slip around. Maybe better for quilt users? )
Ok
Use your puffy and put it under your sleep pad and on top of your pillow or t-shirt
DOH!!!......The Klymite Pillow X is as big as a Dog Bed! but works well and for the price...should fit into a sleeping bag hood though :(....Yes the Nemo is smooth ride! Thanks for watching!
They sell a smaller pillow X that packs up the size of a lighter and fits into the hood of the sleeping bag
Your right....good call Tim! The Pillow X is 15” x 11” x 3.5" packs down to 4.5" x 3" !
I'm watching this in my pool 😂
Fun! Summer is here!
It winter in New Zealand 😀😭
Nice video Chris! Just one thing: Klymit=climb it.
There ya go...very helpful.
The difference between the two mattresses is like the difference between thru hiking (klymit) vs basecamping (nemo). I'd hate to have to blow that nemo up every evening on a thru hike! I guess my point is, thru hiking is about being quick and minimal whereas basecamping is more leisurely with more creature comforts.
I think that the price differential is reflective of the R-factor. Inexpensive sleeping pads are just as comfortable as expensive if they stay inflated throughout the night, but they are only good for warm weather camping. If the nighttime temperatures drop down into the low 40s or 30s, you better have a pad with a higher R- value or the ground will absorb all of your body heat and you will not be comfortable. If you are a winter camper, an R-value above 5.0 is essential. So, bottom line is you can’t really compare these two pads because the are meant for different conditions. R-value is king. If you are a summer-time car camper, buy the Klymit. If you are a fall or winter camper, but the Nemo.
Yes the R value is the big differential here... for average hikers that BP during the summer mainly the Klymit works well for the price...recently reviewed the Klymit Static V insulated about $20 more and with an R Value of 4.4 so all season...just not extreme cold.
I need one of the sleep pads my one is a one season sleep pad summer only so yeah
At least you got the most important seasons covered! Thanks for watching!
Yes
What's a "klymite"?
Tough crowd...
It's like a termite except it's found on the internet...lol
I was looking for this comment 😂 klymit, klymite 🤔
Isn't it..."Klym" "it" ?........Like "it" puts the lotion on its skin........Or, there's a mountain, and I'm going to Climb "it".
@@johnnyappleseed6960 for almost everyone it is, yes. 🤪🤣
My pillows at home don't have that x in them. My body is used to a pillow that is more similar to the Fillow Pillow, I own the nemo and love it
Makes a difference on my nights rest....I used to do the cloths in a stuff sack.
THE kLYMIT COMES IN 30" WIDE NON AND A 27" WIDE INSO WITH A 6.5 R VALUE FYI.
THE INSO IS SO SOFT ALL YA NEED IS A BIRTHDAY SUIT
30" wide is a bed...pretty decent. these pads have come a long way over the years.
@@basecampchris so true... thank heavens for it... those older pads just didnt fitme or my boney butt 😅🤣🙂
Walmart bought Moosejaw years ago.
Ok...Thanks. Yes...2017 Just found this ….Teaming up with Moosejaw will allow Walmart to sell a fuller assortment of apparel, including brands like Patagonia, VF’s (VFC) The North Face, Marmot and others. In turn, those vendors will have more reach given the additional firepower Walmart and Jet.com will give Moosejaw’s website.
Base Camp Chris ahh yes. However not in brick and mortar stores. Online online through the Walmart marketplace. 👍
Thanks for this info. I bought from Moosejaw years ago. Always had great success with them.
Mate I'm sorry to say but you need some training in that pump sack for the Nemo pad 🤣🤣🤣 I'm huge Nemo fan
My fiancee was like fuck no I ain't paying that much for a Nemo pad...she went to anaconda brought a cheap Denali one for 89 Bux she hated it said she slept on rocks all night while I was next to her on my Nemo...told her lay on mine she was like no wayyyy this is comfy....Nemo pad is the best and the pump sack is easy and after hiking 25kms in a day you just scoop air up with it don't even have to blow into it lol
Nemo is best in the game ATM sorry
The Nemo is a very good company and pad. The price is in the upper range but when it comes top sleep it is worth it. I go back and forth because of price.
The klymit insulated is closer
Picked one up....going to check it out. The insulated is a 4 season pad with 4.4 R value! Should be a toasty ride!
Lol.... you handled the pump sack all wrong🤣🤣
Yeees..... blow about 6 inches back...works like a charm....3 big rolls of air and done!
@@basecampchris there ya go!!!
Thanks for the vid!
Those pine needles are awfully close to that fire in your intro.
Yes...that fire was corrected after that shot ...usually clear about 10' around.
@@basecampchris Thank you for your reply...We are in California...fire safety hits close to home.
I got the Klymit Insulated Pad for 80$ 2.5 thicc and 4+ Insulation. Top brand names are a ripoff!!
It is funny how many pads are around $40 ( and fairly decent ) and then some top names are $150 -$200
What? No murder hornets?
Just a small swarm of killer Bees!
That’s not how you fill up the pump sack
Most serious backpackers would prefer Nemo. Durability is very important for long hikes. If you're only doing a few overnights then save some money with something else. Also did you notice the noise the Klymit made? Nemo is dead silent, and extremely comfortable.
The NEMO is the closet thing to a portable bed ( quiet too ) ...the Klymit get the job done at a great price...I go back and forth on these. It's always Price/ Quality / Comfort
I disagree. There are a large number of serious backpackers that use this. If you're talking about noise, how many serious backpackers do you think use a Therm-a-rest Neo* pads? Those things are noisy as shit, and yet very, very widespread. People complain about their lack of durability, and yet still use them as a light and high-R value option. I haven't had an issue with 3 different Klymit pads, and I've put a hell of a lot of miles on them. (If you count my Wife's, that's 5 pads total). I find them very comfortable, light, easy to pack, and have taken both of my insulated versions down to 0*F -- all without any issue. I'd be interested to hear what requirements a person has to meet, in your opinion, to be considered a, "...serious backpacker." Mind you: this is me disagreeing, providing a counter-point(s), and opening up a discussion -- not an e-fight. Hike your own hike, either way.
I appreciate the open discussion. I have done a through hike on the AT and the PCT, so I can only say what has worked for me, and the people I've hiked with. In my opinion, a few things are very important; your tent, your sleep pad, and your sleeping bag (or quilt). I have seen people on trail with old hand me down equipment, and doing just fine. But for me being 40, comfortable sleep is a priority. Not saying the Klymit wouldn't get the job done, but on long hikes you will notice any little thing that's not right.
@@ryeguy0306 I also white blazed NB 13 years ago, but haven't been able to PCT/CDT since due to job/family. The longest ones since leaving college have been the OT, and CT (and recently keep trying to get my JMT perms >.> ). I moved from all of my heavy gear and foam pad on the AT to consistently lighter options as I've aged. I went from a Sea to Summit inflatable, to a Therm-a-rest Neo Air (so noisy), to the multiple light version(s) of Klymit's Static V Insulated (and non for warmer temps). To me, it's the most comfortable pad I've owned/tried, especially with how much I toss and turn at night (in bed at night, too) -- plus on my side, I personally have no pressure points, and feel it flexes with my movement. I'm 38, so we're similar in age. I equate the difference in backpack sleeping pads to how people do mattresses at home: some like them soft, some hard, some in between, some water, some air filled, some need a mattress topper, some prefer memory foam, some can sleep on hardwood floors etc. Every so often, I'll take my dogs with me, hump my Nemo Galaxy 2p, take my old RidgeRest to re-live those early days... and chuckle (can't have my huskies puncturing my inflatables). Either way, I agree: Good sleep is necessary on the trail, and my Klymit affords me that. I have nothing bad to say about the Nemo Tensor, only that I think the Klymit Insulated is every bit as good. Hike on.
Don't blow into the pump sack. Open the end and wave it like you are catching air in a trash bag. One swipe and it's full of air.
I now blow into it at about 6 inches away....it's hard to wave it around with the mattress attached...that's what works for me.
1 gram of good weed is ten bucks
Would help you sleep.
Could have inflated that first pillow right away and give specs but spent so much time with just useless bla bla bla, bla...much better presented second pillow.
Overall not impressed with presenter apart from quality products
Yeah....blah- blah -blah....you and your 1 subscriber! Say hi to your Mom.
Klymite sucks. Their pads are not comfortable
Klymite is an affordable option...but not as a comfortable option.
I find them very comfortable. To each their own.