Louie Anderson said it was his dad who played trumpet for Hoagy Carmichael. It's in his book. Well he probably had a couple of trumpet players in his career.
It takes a tough man to make a tender chicken. Ian Fleming told us in Casino Royale that 007 looked, not like Connery, but like Carmichael because Hoagy was a tough guy with a soft spot. Fleming’s Bond girls weren’t broads in bikinis. James really fell for them, the way Hoagy longed for a girl at the “garden wall” - the famous kissing wall - at Indiana University where he said he pretty much conceived this gorgeous, ever-ascending tune. The title came from a friend and the lyrics a couple of years later from another writer but tough-tender Hoagy had the “inspiration” and even at this jazz tempo it’s heaven sent. Thanks for posting. Now you might want to watch Hoagland and Harold in The Best Years of Our Lives.
My dad, Sam Chase, sax and clarinet played with Bud Dant and his bank at Indiana University. The whole band quit school, about 1932 and joined up with Herbie Kay Orchestra and toured all around the country. Dorthey Lamoor was the singer and later Bud's wife. My dad eventually went back to Indiana and the rest of them went to California.
Historic! Pianist Joe Bushkin, who played, along with Bunny Berigan, at Hoagy's wedding reception in 1936, claimed in his usual blunt, colorful manner that "Hoagy couldn't play $hit." Well, maybe he wasn't a virtuoso ... but we can't all be virtuosi, and he had a "voice" on piano as distinctive as his singing voice. Half the battle for a musician is finding a voice. I love his playing. Does anyone enjoy his role in the 1946 Academy Award winning _The Best Years Of Our Lives_ and his interplay with Harold Russell, much of which is centered around the piano at Butch's (Hoagy's character) bar?
Carmichael didn't chose to toss his (own) melody aside during his improvisation, like so many have done, increasingly throughout the years. Maybe that's what caused Mr. Bushkin's nose to turn.
This is great! "Stardust " was my mother's favorite song. Because it was composed one year after her birth, it's doubtful that she was aware of Hoagy's version. She preferred Artie's,Glenn's, and Tommy's, with Frank's vocal. TBYOOL holds the no.2 slot of my fav fims,just behind "Laura",and just before "The Bad and the Beautiful ". Hoagy and Harold were magic. Everything about that film,to me,isn't about merely watching a movie. It is a slice of americana unfolding before my eyes.
My wife and I went to the "Starr Valley" in Richmond, Indiana last week. Not much left there (the Gennett Recording Studio is gone), but this prompted me to learn more about Starr piano and Gennett recording history. Thank you for putting this first recording up on RUclips!!
If you ever get over to Indianapolis make sure to visit the recreation of the Gennett Recording Studio in the Indiana History Center. It will be there until Jan of 2022.
I was reading "To Kill a Mockingbird" to this song, and it so beautifully complements that book, thank you for those recordings, thank you for introduce me to jazz and old music in total, just thank you!
I’d kill for this 78. I wonder how people reacted to it when released. It’s not quite what a 20s jazz record sounded like and definitely not what a 20s pop number sounded like. I’d guess Bix liked it.
@Sarah How wonderful! I love that you have the player and the records still, and play them just as your family memebers did! A "one family" machine is getting harder and harder to find these days. One thing - be sure that you only play Diamond Discs on this machine. Witjoit the appropriate adaptor, anything else, even from the same era, will be ruined. Enjoy every note!
Louie Anderson's dad played the trumpet for this recording. He wrote about it in his book "Dear Dad" - who was a raging alcoholic. Good book to read if you had an alcoholic parent.
Grew up in Richmond and the jazz history was TOTALLY swept under the rug until they could make money off a JazzFest. We would play in the old abandoned buildings of Genett Records and Starr Piano with NO idea what went on there. I mean a completely hidden past. Glad the info is more readily available now, but we were cheated as kids when it came to this history.
I too never got it as a youngster, or even into my adulthood. Then one day it clicked. I sure get it now. Whether instrumental, Sarah Vaughn, Nat or Willie, (and now this original), this song is a true one-and-only.
Interesting that the first note of the verse is an E instead of a D here. It's not a mistake, because it's done that why each time the phrase is played.
I'm curious about "Estrellitas" on the record label. Why is it there? "Estrellita a name for girls, The meaning of the name "Estrellita is "star." Note, different sources use different spellings.
Dear 78Prof, would you you be prepared to sell me this 78? It would complete my collection of pre-1932 Hoagy 78's. If OK, of course I will pay top price. Hope you don't mind me asking.
Definitive worst rendition, AND worst performance by what must have been a Very Young Hoagy Carmicheal. Decidedly a victim of the style of the times...we are lucky it wasn't done by a full C-melody Saxophone Band ! Even our greatest composers had to start somewhere.
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my father, Charles "Bud" Dant is on trumpet...
Christopher, I knew your dad, used to talk to him in the 1980's when I worked at MCA Records. He was a great guy.
Louie Anderson said it was his dad who played trumpet for Hoagy Carmichael. It's in his book. Well he probably had a couple of trumpet players in his career.
I'd love to hear more about your father if you're willing to talk about him.
Is that the same guy who was A&R at Decca in the 50’s/60’s and produced Earl Grant’s instrumental albums?
@@jasonnstegall "Wait" -- what a stoopid way to start a comment
One of the greatest numbers ever composed- such a sense of longing with or without the lyrics
My grandaunt’s husband, Donn Kimmell, played guitar and banjo with Carmichael & His Pals. Can be heard on this recording.
It takes a tough man to make a tender chicken. Ian Fleming told us in Casino Royale that 007 looked, not like Connery, but like Carmichael because Hoagy was a tough guy with a soft spot. Fleming’s Bond girls weren’t broads in bikinis. James really fell for them, the way Hoagy longed for a girl at the “garden wall” - the famous kissing wall - at Indiana University where he said he pretty much conceived this gorgeous, ever-ascending tune. The title came from a friend and the lyrics a couple of years later from another writer but tough-tender Hoagy had the “inspiration” and even at this jazz tempo it’s heaven sent. Thanks for posting. Now you might want to watch Hoagland and Harold in The Best Years of Our Lives.
The beginnings of the greatest jazz song ever composed, thanks.
We are all made of Star Dust. We are alive and here for a short time only. Make the most of each day!
Ah, the connection between Hoagy Carmichael and Joni Mitchell! (hee hee hee) Yep, and we are also golden…
My dad, Sam Chase, sax and clarinet played with Bud Dant and his bank at Indiana University. The whole band quit school, about 1932 and joined up with Herbie Kay Orchestra and toured all around the country. Dorthey Lamoor was the singer and later Bud's wife. My dad eventually went back to Indiana and the rest of them went to California.
Huh. I just found out that this was an instrumental first, with lyrics added 2 years later. One of my all-time favorite songs.
Historic! Pianist Joe Bushkin, who played, along with Bunny Berigan, at Hoagy's wedding reception in 1936, claimed in his usual blunt, colorful manner that "Hoagy couldn't play $hit." Well, maybe he wasn't a virtuoso ... but we can't all be virtuosi, and he had a "voice" on piano as distinctive as his singing voice. Half the battle for a musician is finding a voice. I love his playing. Does anyone enjoy his role in the 1946 Academy Award winning _The Best Years Of Our Lives_ and his interplay with Harold Russell, much of which is centered around the piano at Butch's (Hoagy's character) bar?
@captain purple That's my favorite period in film. ... Yes, _To Have And Have Not_ is also great.
I wonder how many great songs Joe Bushkin wrote😉
Carmichael didn't chose to toss his (own) melody aside during his improvisation, like so many have done, increasingly throughout the years. Maybe that's what caused Mr. Bushkin's nose to turn.
A great film, and he more than held up his end.
This is great! "Stardust " was my mother's favorite song. Because it was composed one year after her birth, it's doubtful that she was aware of Hoagy's version. She preferred Artie's,Glenn's, and Tommy's, with Frank's vocal. TBYOOL holds the no.2 slot of my fav fims,just behind "Laura",and just before "The Bad and the Beautiful ". Hoagy and Harold were magic. Everything about that film,to me,isn't about merely watching a movie. It is a slice of americana unfolding before my eyes.
Quien en el 2025 disfrutando esta joya Dios es bueno por siempre REM. 💯💯🇵🇦😎🙌🙌✨✨✨
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every version of stardust should have this riff at the ending of the song...its purely magical and defines the song at heart!
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@@QUABLEDISTOCFICKLEPO it's true!
This a great historical recording. Hoagy knew he was a hack piano player, and didn't care. But his music is heaven in the ears!!
Hoagy had a great creative mind. Stardust was a hymn to all American popular music!
If Hoagy was a hack on piano, then 99% of pianists today are losers. And I don’t think that’s the case…
Amazing. Thank you for posting.
My wife and I went to the "Starr Valley" in Richmond, Indiana last week. Not much left there (the Gennett Recording Studio is gone), but this prompted me to learn more about Starr piano and Gennett recording history. Thank you for putting this first recording up on RUclips!!
I think there's book about Gennett out there somewhere....
@@tonymostromable The book is called Jelly Roll, Bix and Hoagy. The paperback edition is available on Amazon. Also available in Kindle format.
If you ever get over to Indianapolis make sure to visit the recreation of the Gennett Recording Studio in the Indiana History Center. It will be there until Jan of 2022.
@@NealCMH Thanks Neal! I heard about this exhibit...it's got real Gennett records and Gennett phonograph, correct?
@@JetBob84 yes and much more
I was reading "To Kill a Mockingbird" to this song, and it so beautifully complements that book, thank you for those recordings, thank you for introduce me to jazz and old music in total, just thank you!
You are most welcome! So glad to hear that you're enjoying our presentation.
I've always found it amusing that possibly the most vital song to American culture was originally labeled as a "Stomp" for the first recording.
And it works very well as a Stomp.
@@TheRm65 that's gotta be with Irving Mills's band version of it your referencing, right?
This is one of the most Ironic Songs ever Composed! I LOVE It!
I'm curious what you mean
@@bluewavefilmsandmusic must have meant iconic lol
@@crieverytim How...ironic, then! ☺️
@@streetofdreams4538 lol I too waz confused 😂
I’d kill for this 78. I wonder how people reacted to it when released. It’s not quite what a 20s jazz record sounded like and definitely not what a 20s pop number sounded like. I’d guess Bix liked it.
I would do anything for this on 78 too...the riff in stardust is just to die for.
I would literally sell my ear for “Memory Lane” by Fred Waring.
Hoagy said it was based on something he heard Bix play.
@Sarah How wonderful!
I love that you have the player and the records still, and play them just as your family memebers did!
A "one family" machine is getting harder and harder to find these days.
One thing - be sure that you only play Diamond Discs on this machine. Witjoit the appropriate adaptor, anything else, even from the same era, will be ruined.
Enjoy every note!
Es un tema tan hermoso que cualquier interpretación es mágica, ésta suena a gloria.
Hoagy recorded piano solo of his most famous tune on Victor 24484 on 12/6/33.
Louie Anderson's dad played the trumpet for this recording. He wrote about it in his book "Dear Dad" - who was a raging alcoholic. Good book to read if you had an alcoholic parent.
Wow, its so beautiful
I just watched the Gennett Documentary, which brought me to your Channel. BTW, you got great & organized Playlists 👍👏
Thanks!
This is such an amazing song, and this arrangement is the best I've ever heard!
Crazy, 5 more years this will be 100 years old.
Great to hear the original.
Love this
Grew up in Richmond and the jazz history was TOTALLY swept under the rug until they could make money off a JazzFest. We would play in the old abandoned buildings of Genett Records and Starr Piano with NO idea what went on there. I mean a completely hidden past. Glad the info is more readily available now, but we were cheated as kids when it came to this history.
How perfect is this song? Go directly from here to Nat King Cole's rendition. Both are sublime.
Sublime beyond loss perhaps?
Of all the versions that I've heard the one by the Glenn Miller Band is my favourite...
Great:)
Hoagy you rascal you 🙏😎♥️
"Stardust', a favorite
I remember hearing this song (A different version with vocals) at the end of The Caretaker’s “We’ll All Go Riding On A Rainbow” album. Fantastic song.
I think a variation of this song was also used in his album Everywhere at the end of time, the track E6 most specifically.
@@TheBobmaker Marjorie Stedford's version was used in "Stardust" (end of WAGROAR), and Charlie Spivak's version was used in E6
When I was a child, this was said by the "experts" to have been the most beautiful song ever written. It never impressed me much.
I too never got it as a youngster, or even into my adulthood. Then one day it clicked. I sure get it now. Whether instrumental, Sarah Vaughn, Nat or Willie, (and now this original), this song is a true one-and-only.
WOW
American music at its best
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yes!
So were lyrics written for the existing music?
is that Bix on cornet?
"Stardust" on the "B" side of the record too.
This is before lyrics were written.
Кто залетел сюда во время прочтения Ежевичной зимы?)
Suddenly I get the sensation that I am watching the Little Rascals ...
Interesting that the first note of the verse is an E instead of a D here. It's not a mistake, because it's done that why each time the phrase is played.
I'm curious about "Estrellitas" on the record label. Why is it there? "Estrellita a name for girls, The meaning of the name "Estrellita is "star." Note, different sources use different spellings.
"Record Label Spanish" is an endless source of amusement for record collectors.
Is"Stardust " in.public domain?
No.
Almost just a few more years
Hoagy (later in life) admitted that the title STAR DUST was in reference to cocaine.
god bless him
nope. you made that up all by yourself.
@@TANTRUMGASM same
@@TANTRUMGASM Sure sounds like it.
Dear 78Prof, would you you be prepared to sell me this 78? It would complete my collection of pre-1932 Hoagy 78's. If OK, of course I will pay top price. Hope you don't mind me asking.
Sorry, but I do not own a copy of the 78. The audio and label image came from sources other than my personal record library.
More bull shit has been posted about this song... Thank You For Posting The REAL First Version !
Nightmare Alley
K*** me now. I'm haunted by visions of another life
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Definitive worst rendition, AND worst performance by what must have been a Very Young Hoagy Carmicheal. Decidedly a victim of the style of the times...we are lucky it wasn't done by a full C-melody Saxophone Band ! Even our greatest composers had to start somewhere.
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