Gay Short Film - Wherever You Are
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- ‘Wherever You Are’ is a short film taking LGBT characters down a different track. Exploring the relationship between a father and son, the short film tells the story of a father crippled with grief, yet longing to do something for his son.
The short film was produced entirely through crowdfunding and held it’s international premiere at the Shropshire Rainbow Film Festival in October, 2016.
Wherever You Are has been selected to be screened in 8 international film festivals so far:
- Shropshire Rainbow Film Festival 2016
- Festival Internacional de Cine LesbiGayTrans 2017
- Outflix Film Festival 2017
- FanCineGay Extramadura Film Festival 2017
- Barcelona Planet Film Festival 2017
- 2017 LGBTQ Shorts Film Festival
- Move Me Productions - Belgium Film Festival 2017
- Pride Pictures 2017
Director: Gabriel Virata & Joan Montesinos
For all short film enquiries contact: gvirata@gmail.com Кино
I've one heck of a lump in my throat right now and caught a big sobbing sigh I think they could hear in the other room. He didn't find the boyfriend, but he found that his precious son had loved and been loved. I'm sure it broke his heart not only that his son didn't have the confidence of his father's unconditional love to come out to him, but that he didn't get to witness and share his son's happiness. Well done; I'll recommend it to many. Jay, Seattle USA
Thanks so much for watching Jay!
The writer or writers behind this deserves a standing ovation and a abounding amount of praises. Not only was it beautiful...it was touching, inspiring and deserve to have a extended version. A Oscar, Golden Globe, Academy Award or Emmy is what this short film needs. It needs to be view by a larger crowd. A1 work to my standards.
Max Miller Thanks so much Max. Glad you enjoyed watching it as much as we did make it :)
Posh, it was trash.
Wow @@eugenefrankmd5433 that was a very harsh comment! I am truly interested in why you took this position. Be well & blessed !
Extraordinary! I felt John's loss and the regret that despite his suspicions, he asked no questions. My biggest regret is that I did not discover this piece of art years ago.
thanks so much for watching Lawrence!
@@gabrielvirataalves hi my name is chetan I found this a very interesting story that he was trying to find this person Paul’s boyfriend what a beautiful story I am gay myself nice to meet you I am from England
I wish John had met the boyfriend. He never got to truly know his son completely and I'd bet anything that what's eating away at him. Meeting the boyfriend, talking to someone who also shared his son's love would have meant closure for him. And yet he doesn't get to. He wanders alone looking for something he may never get. And that really breaks my heart.
Thanks for watching Pablo. I think exploring that longing was something we really wanted to capture in the film
Maybe he did meet him without knowing.
Paul hadn’t come out to his dad when he died, maybe his boyfriend hasn’t come out to his family yet either, and so he doesn’t want to reveal himself to his “father in law”.
Either way I liked the ending. Open but closed.
When the dad saw the note he realized that the boyfriend knows about Paul’s death.
As he sat down on the bench I saw him finally mourn the loss of his boy.
From my point of view his search to find and inform the boyfriend about Paul’s passing, wasn’t really about finding the guy, it was more a way for him to show Paul wherever he is that he accepts and loves him. A way of having that conversation they both were robbed of, because of his untimely death.
Very well made! ♥️
Gabriel, an awesome film. I'm just pleased that I didn't see this in the cinemas, because I was bawling my eyes out by the end. That father is so awesome. I'm pleased your film has had such success. It's beautiful. 🙏🏻
Thankyou so much Michael. That means a lot and I'm glad you were touched watching it!
an incredibly moving performance from Guy Hargreaves considering the limitations of a 13 minute running time.
Recognizing that fine performances do not take place in a vacuum, kudos to all involved. Wonderful work.
Thanks a lot! Guy was incredible to work with and gave the character everything so many subtleties and more. Hope you enjoyed it
I am pissing my eyes out onto the keyboard. A heartbreaking story. It really reached deep into my pain.
Thankyou so much for watching!
To me this can also serve as a salutary warning about regret and judgement. The young man appeared to be 19 when he died. The father uses the term sneaking off. The father also seems to be focused on a much earlier time in the boys life maybe a time of innocence and non-judgement he finds easier to deal with. Thank you for an open and poignant peace that has triggered me looking once again at my own judgement of others and maybe actions that can lead to regret.
Thanks for sharing and watching! We definitely wanted to keep it open for the exact reason of everything you mentioned. Sometimes the past and present become blurred with loss and that struggle is definitely what we wanted to show !
What an excellent and well done film ! How my heart aches for this father and how I so much wanted him to find his son alive and ok. BUT the story I suppose is a metaphor for so many kids that for one reason or another leave home and as life goes on there is no resolution in their lives because of misunderstandings and differences. Gay kids can really be subject to this dislocation and this film is a cautionary story to parents and kids to see, to think, to ponder what life is really about...... LOVE ! As to the 64 thumbs down I could not understand that in a film so well done ! Then I realized that perhaps the sadness of this story may have caused this. So many levels to evaluate film. Thank you for posting this gem!
Rick Tomlinson Thanks so much for the kind words Rick and thanks for watching! We really wanted to capture a lot of that so glad it came through for you :)
Am citing again how original and beautifully done this is. One of the finest, and one of a kind.. What a great father...
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
At first I was thinking “Nooo! Where is my happy ever after moment where the dad meets the boyfriend?”
But…
Maybe he did meet him without knowing.
Paul hadn’t come out to his dad when he died, maybe his boyfriend hasn’t come out to his family yet either, and so he doesn’t want to reveal himself to his “father in law”.
So when I was done crying about my missing fairytale ending, I actually liked the ending.
Open but closed.
When the dad saw the note he realized that the boyfriend knows about Paul’s death.
As he sat down on the bench I saw him finally mourn the loss of his boy.
From my point of view his search to find and inform the boyfriend about Paul’s passing, wasn’t really about finding the guy, it was more a way for him to show Paul wherever he is that he accepts and loves him. A way of having that conversation they both were robbed of, because of his untimely death.
I may have understood the movie a completely different way than was intended by the maker, but that’s the beauty of movies, books, music and other type of art, well of life itself even, that we all experience it differently and that’s okay. As long as it makes us feel, it’s a success! What we feel is less important.
Very well made! ♥️
Really glad you enjoyed it Natasja and I think a lot of how you interpreted it was what we wanted to achieve anyway - always keeping it a bit more open ended. Thanks for sharing your comments :)
W-o-w! Didn't expected such a good work! Nice plot, great soundtrack, AMAZING imagery and filming! I loved every scene from the beginning to the end! Congratulations on the production.
Tomás Bohn Pessatti Thanks for the awesome words Tomás! Glad you enjoyed watching it :)
Beautiful but I would have loved for John to have met him especially after all that effort but still a beautiful story.
onlyget1 thanks :)
Good my Baby 💋💋💋
Not perfect, but you got a lot of things right. The flashback imagery was really good. That's how you remember people who have passed...glimpses, the feeling of someone resting against you when they are sleeping, laughing together. Loss is excruciating. I honestly don't think I could survive losing a child.
Thanks for watching!
I think we all wonder about these things - about loose ends that may be left after we’re gone, that nobody else knows about and therefore cannot tie up for us. Nice movie, well done.
camban thanks a lot! Glad you enjoyed the mood we were trying to make about loss :)
Fantastic storyline, fabulous editing and camerawork , cannot praise the technical work enough. Just beautiful
John Barber Thanks so much John! Glad you enjoyed it
I get that the father sees the note that Paul's lover wrote and put on the grave, so the father realizes that the boyfriend already knows Paul is dead. I guess also he feels happy that Paul's last few moths were full of love. Very nice, music and cut shots and suspense. Acting was a little stiff, but what the heck! I still really liked it.
crewby3 cheers! Thanks :)
As a father, I would have taken great joy in knowing that my son was capable of loving another human being, and that he was able to embrace that aspect of himself.
Has anyone else been visited by one of these who are so dearly missed for so long ?
Cinematography makes a good film ,great. Kudos👏👏👏to yourself and EVERYONE involved. Poignant, but,beautiful ; he was lucky to have a father who loved him for who he was,not whom he wanted him to be. Shed a few tears,cathartic. Very best wishes from London👋🌟✌
TheWhore2culture thanks so much for the kind words. Glad you were moved by the film!
I suddenly felt a tear roll down my cheek. Good story. It really drew me in.
David Stroman Thanks David!
Melancholic - but beautiful and well made film. I enjoyed it very much.
David Holiday cheers - thanks a lot David!
Father really loved his son. Wanted to meet his love interest, maybe bond with him.
Thanks for watching Roger!
❤💛🧡💚💙💜🤎🖤 True Story: there was a shooting at a gay club in my town. Many gay couples, bfs and local gays were murdered. Many of them were not out or did not tell their families they went out or who they were with that night. Most them didn't have ids on them so it took days for the police/hospital to identify them. It was heartbreaking 💔😢!!
This movie reminds me of the parents/families that were looking for answers after being told their son/relative/bf had died in the shooting.
It was so sad seeing all these mothers/fathers crying out for help and answers.
The most memorable was the single mom, crying out on the news holding two pictures, 1 of her son and 1 of his newly engaged fiance. They went out that night to celebrate wth friends but never came home.
This is a true story, because I lived to tell it....
Thanks for watching! Was this Pulse?
I thought there would be more but there wasn't. It mirrors reality. We don't always get closure. Sometimes we have to find it within us to honor those memories while living a better life moving forward.
Thanks for watching Trent! Definitely the sentiment we wanted to get - sometimes life doesn’t package it all nicely in the end. Great to hear you got it :)
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Has anyone else out there been visited by one of these who are so dearly missed for so long ?
watching this in Aug 2020, well u did it....sobbing
Sorry to make you cry but glad it touched you! Thanks for watching William :)
Very sad movie. Many people disappear from our lives and we just never know. We never know. I'm sure that I lost a lot of them during the AIDS epidemic. I just never heard from them again and I never knew. I still don't know. People just seemed to just go away. No too many understand our deep hurt inside that we try to block with laughter. Inside many of us a grieving for the ones we have lost. Growing older and fearing to make any great friendships. We fear the facing of heartbreak all over again. All the faces in our memories that we will never see again. No one really left to weep when I die.
This is exactly the feeling we tried to capture. Thanks for sharing that Piri
Piri Gonzalez - I used to have an old Rolodex, just cards w names, numbers and addresses filed alphabetically. Back in the 80’s when AIDS was a death sentence, I would sometimes find myself with too many funerals to go to on the weekends and have to pick which ones I would attend. Then one day I realized that my Rolodex was becoming empty as the years passed. I had a habit of moving the cards of those that passed to the back, sort of my way of remembering them, I didn’t want to just throw the cards away. All of the black letter dividers were towards the front and the back was full. When I later transferred the addresses to a computer I counted them, I’d lost over, well over 200 friends. Thinking of them, they seemed to be the best of us, the brightest, the best looking, the most friendly. I just wanted to say you aren’t alone, there are others who have lost friends and acquaintances. My heart is with you.
@@Erin-Thor Thanks for your kind words. It still hurts and I know that I must move on. A lot of these young people running around do not have any idea of what life is all about. Life now is full of uncaring people. I wish things were different. I have my memories all that I can do is move forward and try to be happy. (A very difficult thing for me)
Being gay is not for sissies.
love you whoever you are this is exactly how I feel and you are the first person I'm telling this but I'm gay
try to be happy anyway you can. You don't have to scream at the world "I'm gay" Just be yourself.
Congratulations for your so touching, deep and emotional short movie. Actors, storyline, production, all is great. Hope you can continue to create beautiful movies.
Thanks so much for watching! Glad you enjoyed it
Lovely film about a heart-breaking situation.
Thanks so much for watching. Glad you enjoyed it!
nice to see a father with love for his son
Thanks for watching Stephen!
First film I bursted out crying... very sad film, really did enjoy it so much!
Aw sorry to hear you cried but glad it touched you the way we hoped. Thanks a lot for commenting Jazmine
Wherever you are, That short movie was absolutely heart wrenching His father want to meet his boyfriend so badly It's a shame he couldn't find him he search High and low is the tell him that is son passed away he wanted him to know His father just wanted to give him a big hug and to tell him he was sorry that he passed away it was a gut wrenching movie. It moved to me to tears. It was an excellently made movie The Actor who played his father he was brilliant Shame he couldn't find him in person.
Donald Storm Thanks for watching Donald! Glad it was able to move you the way we hoped when making it
I think he did meet him. On the phone.
The note was a nice ending... at least he knew.
Thanks for watching! :)
Nicely done. This film made me think , and it's good that you don't immediately understand what is happening or really what has happened without some reflection. I think that works well with the missed connections theme at work on several levels in this story.
Thanks for watching Jim! Glad you enjoyed it and got the themes we were aiming for :)
Brought tears to my eyes
Phillips Rumans hopefully in a reflective/melancholic way!
@@gabrielvirataalves yes definitely.
YES. Beautiful stuff. Very moving.
Glad you enjoyed it !
Well done. I'd just like to see more LGBT movies which encourage and uplift. For decades it seems like 90% of the gay-themed movies we've seen end in tragedy, or portray gays who are living 'happy' lives until they try to accept their true sexual identity, after which all hell breaks loose. Is it too much to ask for film-makers to at least give gays a happy ending, even if they have to suffer a bit getting there? Maybe it's just too easy to make a "dramatic" film if you can lean on misery and heartbreak.
sparkers70 thanks for the comment! Agreed - hoping next one we do is a positive story :)
@@gabrielvirataalves albeit this is a positive story, ultimately.
Really beautiful amazing father you got kid!
Thanks for watching!
The best short film I saw!!!!
Thanks Tony! Glad you enjoyed it
>>> This beautiful film left me feeling melancholic and thoughtful. I’m old and have lost a few boyfriends over the years, one of whom died. I too have many fond memories. A lovely film.
Gareth Jefferson Thanks so much Gareth! Hope you enjoyed watching it
Sorry to hear. I hope that you are now at peace with the situations.
It brought tears to my eyes 😢
Aw Amit. Thanks for watching!
Everything a short film should be.
Frederick Wemyss Cheers for the kind words Frederick!
You're welcome.@@gabrielvirataalves
Prifect storey enjoy this story butey for big production cinema 💥 📡💯 🎬 💯 📡 films ❤👋🌳
thanks for watching!
Simple, original and effective 👌 👍 👏
Glad you enjoyed it Murilo! Thanks for watching :)
This film touched my heart
Oliver gwr 1995 Thomas the tank engine fan thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it
This film was written and done so well, I could see this as a full feature film or mini series. I too was hoping the father met the boyfriend so they could have closure together
Richard Gaspard cheers Richard! Maybe if there’s a part 2 we’ll see ;)
Now that is a loving father.😎
Very much so. Thanks for watching!
Great video! Thanks!
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it :)
Wow... Superb, I have goose bumps.
David Schaefer thanks David. Glad it touched you :)
Did anyone else notice that one guy had 2 different colored eyes!? That is so fucking cool!!
First to comment and notice! Good eye ;) His eyes are very very cool
@@gabrielvirataalves Wait, I was the first? Awesome! But I'm kinda jealous honestly 😂
Amazing. Thank you
:)
Beautiful film ❤️.
Glad you enjoyed watching it Bill!!
This was great.
Thanks for watching Roland!
Y los subtítulos en español??🤔🤔
How does he have a tombstone?
Was the waiter Paul's lover, and lied to the father?
I thought the same for the rose in the foreground and in front of the waiter, then the rose appears in the grave.
I think the red rose is the answer
I didn't quite get it , is the waiter actually his some boyfriend?, what does the letter reprensnt
see my comment above.
great job
Thanks Stephen! Thanks for watching :)
@@gabrielvirataalves my pleasure. hope you like my work, too
Wow, I teared up
Thanks so much for watching!
Lovely performance from the actor playing the dad.
Bruce Coleman thanks Bruce. Will pass it on to your fantastic lead x
@@gabrielvirataalves Cool. I am a theatre director in Texas and I really appreciated his scincerity and honesty.
If you enjoy Gay, Coming of Age videos and stories, you’ll want to read Cameron DeCessna’s latest book, Clay Parker: Growing Up Gay in 1953. It’s the story of a fourteen-year-old boy confused by his feelings, thoughts and dreams as he reaches adolescence and finds his sexual interests are for other teenaged boys. But it's 1953, a time of conservatism and rigid family and moral values. To top off Clay's problems, he's an orphan forced to live with an abusive aunt and uncle who openly show their distaste for the lad who was severely burned when a house fire killed his mother, father and younger brother. They would be the last persons he could turn to, to help him cope with his alien feelings. This is the story of Clay's troubles, trials and final triumph as he strives to find a family who will love him after he is forced to run away from home after a severe beating by his drunken uncle. The book contains graphic sexual descriptions that may not be suitable for children under 12, although it would be highly recommended reading for gay teens to raise their awareness of the struggles of adolescent gay boys in earlier times. Cameron DeCessna is a gay novelist best known for his Jordan Dare Trilogy, released in mid-summer of 2018 and available at Amazon Kindle Books. While the Jordan Dare series is written for all readers, 12 and up, and has no adult-only content, some of DeCessna's works are more suitable for adult readers. This novel, Clay Parker: Growing up Gay in 1953, is the first of several gay, coming-of-age stories the author plans to release in late 2018 and 2019. DeCessna, born in 1951, writes from personal experience and vividly captures the difficulties faced by gay adolescents during those times. Look for Cameron DeCessna’s books and visit his author’s page at Amazon/Kindle Publishing.
I enjoyed this movie very much. Its well done and takes a different approach to relationships of this kind and makes one think about things we take for granted in a relationship and how we can't turn back the clock and do things differently. And that life is not neat and tidy without loose ends so we need to do and say the things we should to those we care about. My only confusion is at the end with the note and rose by the grave. The note at the grave was on white paper torn from a wire bound notebook but Paul's boyfriend was writing on yellow paper in a pad and signed 'wherever you are'. So who was that note from at the grave? From Adrian?
Thanks for watching Peter! Glad you enjoyed it :)
I couldn't get the purpose of this video. It was misterious though. Is it gay movie ? I would rather see it like family love.
Beautiful
LilBlasian Peep thanks for watching!
Gabriel Virata np ❤️
such an emotional film. geeez.
thanks so much for watching!
Well, that was quietly devastating.
Thanks for watching Tim !
I think the last guy the dad talked to was his boyfriend
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I appreciate the incredible caring for the theme and the quality of the film, but there were so many possibilities for what was going on especially towards the end that suddenly it did not feel grounded to me, i.e. no clear picture even with the hints that are given, or at least hints that are hinted at but never shown clearly. Still, beautifully done. I wanted a resolve that was clear and left no room for interpretation after such an arduous search. For the dad it was real, but for the observer, the end was just too fluid. Not that it wasn't good or believable, not that dad wasn't satisfied or at peace which in some ways that is all that matters, While his goal to find was completed, to meet this person would still be pressing on any ordinary father. I believe he followed through after this. I would.
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Thanks for watching!
OF COURSE HE DID. And I would think the surviving partner of the deceased would want to meet the father if he knew how hard the father had looked for him. Just knowing his partner's father was looking for him would be a gift.Any father who tried to do what he did merits a shared time with his son's partner. Dad's search evidenced the kind of man he was.... for sure. How many partner's fathers are not actively in their son's lives? Quite a few.
Txs 😁i will seei again it will lift my spirit whe I feel. A bit down txs 😁very uplifting and endearing to me🤓😁
Martin Marino hope you feel better soon then !
much love to you friend
BeUtiful film but how does he have a tombstone without the family knowing ?
Beau et touchant beautiful and touching
Merci Tarik!
Oui. Très beau et touchant, comme vous l’avez dit.
If you enjoy Gay, Coming of Age videos and books, you’ll want to consider Cameron DeCessna’s latest book, Clay Parker: Growing Up Gay in 1953. It’s the story of a fourteen-year-old boy confused by his feelings, thoughts, and dreams as he reaches adolescence and finds his sexual interests are for other teenage boys. But it's 1953, a time of conservatism and rigid family and moral values. To top off Clay's problems, he's an orphan forced to live with an abusive aunt and uncle who openly show their distaste for the lad who was severely burned when a house fire killed his mother, father, and younger brother. They would be the last persons he could turn to, to help him cope with his alien feelings. This is the story of Clay's troubles, trials, and final triumph as he strives to find a family who will love him after he is forced to run away from home after a severe beating by his drunken uncle.
The book contains graphic sexual descriptions that may not be suitable for children under 12, although it would be highly recommended reading for gay teens to raise their awareness of the struggles of adolescent gay boys in earlier times. Cameron DeCessna is a gay novelist best known for his Jordan Dare Trilogy, released in mid-summer of 2018 and available at Amazon Kindle Books. While the Jordan Dare series is written for all readers, 12 and up, and has no adult-only content, some of DeCessna's works are more suitable for adult readers. This novel, Clay Parker: Growing up Gay in 1953, is the first of several gay, coming-of-age stories the author plans to release in late 2018 and 2019. DeCessna, born in 1951, writes from personal experience and vividly captures the difficulties faced by gay adolescents during those times. Look for Cameron DeCessna’s books and visit his author’s page at Amazon/Kindle Publishing. www.goodreads.com/book/show/42868432-clay-parker?ac=1&from_search=true
Also, if you enjoy stories and books about ghosts and the supernatural, you might be interested in reading CAMERON DECESSNA’S Jordan Dare trilogy of novels that include Jordan Dare and the Kidnapped Ghost, Jordan Dare and the Tolchester Ghost and Jordan Dare and the Captive Spirit. These three intertwined novels feature a gay protagonist who, since the age of thirteen, has been able to see and speak with recently departed or murdered gay men and teens that, for some reason, are unable to “move on”. His ability leads to one adventure after another as he helps to solve murders, right wrongs and help the deceased settle their earthly affairs. Even though Jordan is gay, the books contain no graphic sexual content. His preference does affect how he deals with the gay spirits sent to him by some unknown entity. By the end of the third book, Jordan learns more about his mentor and discovers an alternate world in which he has a greater destiny to fulfill, thus setting the stage for other Jordan Dare novels. www.amazon.com/Jordan-Dare-Kidnapped-Ghost-Trilogy-ebook/dp/B07GZX757M
Thank you very much to you as well😁😁😉😉🤓🤓🤓
Beautiful done hopefully everything will fall in to place in his search to fulfill the father loss and find his boyfriend😂
Martin Marino Thanks Martin :)
see my comment above. I think he doesn't have to find the boyfriend now.
@@crewby3 but the boyfriend may want to see him eventually.
So he new he was dead, but was trying to piece together his last days?
I think he was in search of the boyfriend, to tell him Paul had passed.
A really sweet and well-filmed story, but the real mystery seems to allude me. The son just disappeared - ran away from home! I'm not seeing any signs of this being a LGBT film, here. As always with the English, the diction was fine, but subtitles would have helped a bit. In the end, it is the story of a loving father who lost his son. Sad - but normal, not gay.
Did it have a story line ?
Nowadays, looking for men is like ordering a food delivery, in your house (in your hole) in less than 30 minutes.
Im sorry I coudnt watch the rest after he said he die I burst out crying and clicked out😞😞 Sorry again
Didn't understand at all...well done but lost in translation...sorry
Too bad they had to keep their love a secret.
would not be able to determine if it was a secret as much as it was a private matter??? Will have to listen for that in the next viewing of the film.
I’m sorry...but I was underwhelmed by that. Too much time wasted on moving trains and a baffling ending.
Yes you are right🙊🙊🤓
Too many flashbacks. The ending sucks. A real let down.
An interesting narrative but incomplete
Thanks for watching James
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My pleasure. ;)))
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Thanks for watching :)
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Very sad.
Thanks for watching Fidel!
Feeling sad right now
D Nats Thanks for watching! Glad it hit the emotional punch
Yes I did txs😁😁🤓
I hate how this ended. Thumbs waaaaay down!
Thanks for watching anyway ;)
I don't get this gilm at all.
Uh use social media ,post his image someone got to know him
Very slow and repetitive.
but isn't life like that sometimes when persons are so wanting something at great effort. He stayed with it.
Good lord, this is unwatchable. Terrible script, no sense of how to create drama. And I’m afraid I laughed with the car squeal sound cutting to the toy train on its side.
Pointless movie... No character catharsis. Easy to make plastic people with no direction in the story line.
it was believable but for many would not be the result we think we want. It was slow in the since that life is slow, also; It is not always about the ecstatic, but sometimes life is subtle and sublime. Quite often in fact
Spectacularly amateurish. So bad it's good.
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