The New Fast 9: He Climbed 1000+ LP and Hit Masters in 3 Days - In Too Deep with Frodan

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  • Опубликовано: 27 май 2024
  • TFT Set 11 Guide Fast 9 Strategy - In today's 'In Too Deep,' we take a deep dive into the mind of Broseph. We analyze his gameplay, exploring how he achieves this fast 9 comp and how he climbed to infinite LP spamming it.
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    Timeline:
    00:00 Fast 9 Guide
    01:50 Early Game
    08:37 Best Units
    11:22 Mid Game
    23:11 Best Items
    24:58 Late Game
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  • @TheCagedK
    @TheCagedK 2 месяца назад +146

    Added point as someone who just hit diamond this set: galio 1 is honestly pretty stable, hitting galio 2 is very hard. A huge bait of this comp is thinking 1* 4 costs aren’t stable at all on 8

  • @heem2k
    @heem2k 2 месяца назад +133

    dj whalrus is a funny ass name for a comp

  • @GamingEnjoyer13
    @GamingEnjoyer13 2 месяца назад +43

    He has not faced a single Bard all game, amazing, I face at least 2, 1 that didn't hit and 1 that hits 3* at 4-4

    • @googleeatsassdude
      @googleeatsassdude 2 месяца назад +10

      Same, struggling to climb because top 3 all seem to run the same Bard comp and if I contest it's just a gamble of who'll get Bard 3* first. Anyone knows how to deal with trickshot Bard erasing my backline?

    • @pausikov
      @pausikov 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@googleeatsassdudehwei is pretty good counter. Against bard lots of backline access works, even like 2 star sylas + morg are able to wipe it.

    • @googleeatsassdude
      @googleeatsassdude 2 месяца назад

      @@cyrus1586 Just had a lucky Fortune game and was left at sub 30 hp but win-streaking, then Bard 3 wiped my full board full of 2 starred 5 and 4 costs. Maybe I got greedy, but it feels so lame that Bard can do this with 2 mythics and 1 other trickshot on his board. I know I'm just being a sore loser at this point, but c'mon, how is this fun?

    • @animedudegrant3016
      @animedudegrant3016 2 месяца назад

      Agreed. I hit the nuts got golden egg and lost to a hard lmao

    • @DiseasedPopeno
      @DiseasedPopeno 2 месяца назад

      ​@googleeatsassdude 3 star alune if they don't build gunblade. 3 star aphelios is really good too. Make sure they have BiS items though.

  • @ajaif4673
    @ajaif4673 2 месяца назад +28

    soo just hit hwei on 7..... i forgot about the just hit tech

  • @rocketcider7761
    @rocketcider7761 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for this guide Frodan. I managed to hit diamond just now this early into the set. It took me 10 games of just to figure out how to consistently hit 9. Generally 1 econ agument and 2 combat is all that's needed. In heavy econ portals you can go full combat. Flexing between the AD & AP variant is key.

  • @stephanojenkins7636
    @stephanojenkins7636 2 месяца назад +165

    Sort of instructive but I feel like a vod where he hits the best tempo prismatic in the game into a hwei on 7 is not a good example to follow for decision making.

    • @SoulShiina
      @SoulShiina 2 месяца назад +18

      I honestly think he chose this vod because of malphite encounter, giving a pretty good item management demonstration like the glove tech

    • @momoaa
      @momoaa 2 месяца назад +11

      Nothing to learn here

    • @EpicFroggz
      @EpicFroggz 2 месяца назад

      Optimization of Malphite encounter + Accomplice + tech-ing in units for traits (and how the player could have optimized it further) was pretty interesting, but I agree early Hwei and the Malphite encounter itself are high roll lol, and I didn’t even know that Candy augment existed that seems super op

    • @FrodanTV
      @FrodanTV  2 месяца назад +32

      I think there’s a lot to unpack especially with how he plays a traditional reroll augment TMC. Also there’s no such thing as low roll fast 9. You HAVE to capitalize on highrolls to fast 9. If you could get away with midrolls, then fast 9 is straight up OP and wildly broken to the point everyone should do it. Yes there are high roll moments but part of it is learning how to convert it. Many people would fumble and be inconsistent with a similar hand. You’re high rolling more than you think in your games too!

    • @momoaa
      @momoaa 2 месяца назад +6

      ​@@FrodanTV i agree with you for the most part, he played that game very well and a lesser player would have probably bot 4'ed. However, by what you just typed (and you do brush over this in the vid, hwei is broken) isnt it just a huge balance issue that someone can climb at the highest level, playing fast 9 every game? A comp that traditionally you usually need a certain, highroll-ish spot to play.
      Maybe you are just constrained by the fact that youtube viewers seem to want to see people place first, or the volatile nature of this comp, but it feels like a bit of a disservice for learning series to feature a video where the guy mostly coasts into a first place finish. I havent watched your other academy videos so im not sure if you are always posting firsts in this format, but it might be worth considering games that dont go so perfectly.
      Fun video either way!

  • @VortexMagus
    @VortexMagus 2 месяца назад +10

    Suggestion: I think the most difficult part of this strategy is transitioning from strong early game to decent midgame positions. Could you go into a little bit more detail on this? Maybe do a video where you have some decent level 5 and level 6 boards and you need to roll down to gain some power to survive 7 and 8?
    Generally I am pretty good at playing strongest board in early game, but once we hit late stage 3/early stage 4, my boards fall off and I struggle with identifying decent transitional comps to tide me over until I get enough gold to hit 9. I tend to start lose streaking and feel obligated to overroll to stabilize - especially during late stage 3/early stage 4 because those stages come with huge enemy power spikes and you start losing a lot of hp.
    Although I can keep a decent comp rolling up through level 6, once I hit 7 and 8, I start losing heavily and I believe its because I don't have enough knowledge to transition out of a decent early board into a strong enough midgame board. I think that is the trickiest part of playing this strategy.

  • @myung.woo12
    @myung.woo12 2 месяца назад +2

    Wish I found your channel sooner, I did watched some grandmaster twitch streams but couldn't figure the plays or reasons behind those decisions so I ended up learning how to play on my own and now I'm hardstuck at emerald 2, needless to say, your walkthrough is super beginner friendly and it solves a few questions of mine on how to improve my plays better. I'm looking forward to your next video.
    Cheers

  • @justjuniorjaw
    @justjuniorjaw 2 месяца назад +19

    I do love DJ Whalrus, Gamba Tree, Moon Edge, Red Blade & Bardine Gun.

    • @EyyoWagwanBoy
      @EyyoWagwanBoy 2 месяца назад +6

      please tell me about gamba tree, moon edge, red blade and bardine gun. never use this kind of method to remember the comps, but this dj whalrus things stuck really well in my brain

    • @NaistGaming
      @NaistGaming 2 месяца назад +3

      ​​@@EyyoWagwanBoy I think gamba tree is forutne into fast 9 , Moon edge probably yone/alune reroll, bardine gun is bard reroll, red blade probably aphelios reroll with rageblade + red buff

    • @EyyoWagwanBoy
      @EyyoWagwanBoy 2 месяца назад

      @@NaistGaming thanks!!

    • @EyyoWagwanBoy
      @EyyoWagwanBoy 2 месяца назад

      @@NaistGaming which one of those comp did you think the best to secure just top 4?

    • @NaistGaming
      @NaistGaming 2 месяца назад

      @@EyyoWagwanBoy I think it would be yone/alune but you need to winstreak early and have good yone items, I think bard is a lot easier but gets contested a lot

  • @jonathanzimmermann5877
    @jonathanzimmermann5877 2 месяца назад

    Hit 3 star galio (some support item, dragon claw, warmogs) with heavy hitters and bruiser augment. Max 8 bruiser he casted ability once and insta popped entire mythic team.

  • @raflyarafat4882
    @raflyarafat4882 2 месяца назад +2

    just tried this comp. Played using so-so augments and without econ ones, midgame was pretty meh bcs of lowroll and pretty much bleed out. Still, i managed to hit the 5 costs and capped out pretty high. Good comp if u want to push rank and pretty much will work if u can hit 9 by stage 5

  • @anguslum9561
    @anguslum9561 2 месяца назад +1

    Hi Frodan, thanks for the guide. Any chance you can showcase another game with this comp? I think Too Much Candy is too unique as an augment as it changes the rolling timing and habit completely and makes this game not so much of a good exmaple for me to try to replicate

  • @alfrednorrlin6944
    @alfrednorrlin6944 2 месяца назад

    Is skipping Bard on stage 2 caousel a mistake? Isnt rageblade + goldmancer great for fast 9 since he already has the Sivir for trickshot?

  • @michelleloves
    @michelleloves 2 месяца назад +7

    7:55 look at big man go

  • @xXlizamaXx
    @xXlizamaXx Месяц назад

    played this and lost but 10/10 i would play this again it's incredibly addicting

  • @clubskitzhardstyle
    @clubskitzhardstyle 2 месяца назад

    Oce ia full of yone comps what items vs a yone?
    Bramble, stone plate? I guess like redemption or the mana armour one

  • @Dameionaruto
    @Dameionaruto 2 месяца назад +3

    I dont know if i understood. I got some stuff, but im still trying to understand and know "when to buy" and "when to sit"

    • @connorthebest12345
      @connorthebest12345 2 месяца назад

      that's the skill of tft, no other way to figure this out without playing/watching

    • @Dameionaruto
      @Dameionaruto 2 месяца назад

      @connorthebest12345 damn... and this is my favorite set too. That 3 star Wukong is everything to me 😆 🤣 I don't even play tft because I'm still trying to figure out "what" to look for lol

  • @kadenarguile5225
    @kadenarguile5225 2 месяца назад

    I just did this (emerald elo) and wow this is a mad comp strat. Got level up and cruised to first with a 14 winstreak and every 5 cost two starred with 3 star hwei Azir Sett and Rakan all 2 starred on the bench too.
    Would have 3 starred all 4 if I didn’t do 25 damage in the last turn and end the game. Insane comp great video 🙌🏻

  • @lazysean5418
    @lazysean5418 2 месяца назад +2

    For competitive people and especially content creator its a good thing to just spam comp you think the best because LP gain is a must for them but if you just casual player it will burnt your enjoyment , i did it in set 6.5 and that was the highest elo i get but that doesnt feel good at all

    • @googleeatsassdude
      @googleeatsassdude 2 месяца назад +3

      The real fight in ranked TFT is my desire to play the best meta comp VS the growing urge to lose streak Heartsteel/Fortune into BIG GAMBLE

    • @EpicFroggz
      @EpicFroggz 2 месяца назад +1

      @@googleeatsassdudeLiterally same, latter half of last set I just played Heartsteel bc it’s more fun, and the wins taste so sweet

    • @BrandonAdams1010
      @BrandonAdams1010 2 месяца назад

      I am too dumb to not just learn one or 2 comps and try and force it every time. Works okay until you start playing real competition. IDK if I will ever have enough brain wrinkles to play in a fluid manner.

    • @lazysean5418
      @lazysean5418 2 месяца назад

      @@BrandonAdams1010 as long you still having fun playing that its okay i guess

  • @invictusxii5322
    @invictusxii5322 2 месяца назад

    Why didnt he move the statik from soraka2 to azir1?

  • @gaspompWR
    @gaspompWR 2 месяца назад

    in case of artifact, i build trickster glass for Ornn, double items for the team

  • @onisolb
    @onisolb Месяц назад

    15:45. He doesn’t have antiheal? Zyra: Am I a joke to you?

  • @zzzaweed
    @zzzaweed 2 месяца назад +1

    this is what I currently play but with fortune

  • @zeenml8446
    @zeenml8446 2 месяца назад +1

    Just tried this comp with a wandering trainer of altrunist & sage, went to lvl 10, can confirm this comp is broken

  • @Ston3808
    @Ston3808 2 месяца назад +3

    This is for more advanced players IMO. No instruction on any good early mid game comps. You have to have a vast knowledge on putting together strong early comp on the fly.

    • @xDarkEmpx
      @xDarkEmpx 2 месяца назад +2

      you can usually get away with just playing exalted tempo early board for the fast 9 strat

    • @Ston3808
      @Ston3808 2 месяца назад

      @@xDarkEmpx thanks for the tip!

    • @Criptoartificial
      @Criptoartificial 2 месяца назад

      I find it the same....

    • @Criptoartificial
      @Criptoartificial 2 месяца назад

      ​@@xDarkEmpxwhat is exalted early tempo board?

  • @waynefilkins8394
    @waynefilkins8394 20 дней назад

    Anyone know any good videos to learn to get good at this game? I play normals and just keep getting 7th and 8th no matter what I do

  • @josephkan8253
    @josephkan8253 Месяц назад

    how he removed items without selling the unit?

  • @sergioalonso9273
    @sergioalonso9273 2 месяца назад +7

    I remember being on stream and suggesting this name, glad it stuck XD

  • @archirnobenz
    @archirnobenz Месяц назад

    Yo, i dont know if u know about this but, there’s this augment “Everything must go” and you buy and sell units for 0 cost… that’s not in ranked is it. That’s like an instant gateway to fast 10 wth

  • @danudyaanc2724
    @danudyaanc2724 2 месяца назад

    i tried it actually every easy win 7of 10 games. the note is dont lose so much in mid game just put strong unit in front

  • @manoloolivera3105
    @manoloolivera3105 Месяц назад

    I studied the video, I was motivated. But I will stay in bronze. For me, the arguments are still difficult to select :)

  • @silcoego2859
    @silcoego2859 2 месяца назад +8

    yea save this for next patch, just play mythic this patch while turning your brain off and win

    • @zankaa8031
      @zankaa8031 2 месяца назад +4

      But bard and lillia are too contested to really play every game

  • @AndGuo
    @AndGuo 2 месяца назад +2

    lol he got scam. Toast coming to take that plushie away

  • @wryed
    @wryed 2 месяца назад +1

    Giant Las Vegas sphere is crazy LMAO

    • @ddext3r_
      @ddext3r_ 2 месяца назад

      I was dying after hearing that lmao

  • @mahmoudmohamedismail1758
    @mahmoudmohamedismail1758 2 месяца назад +1

    I am trying to be that kind of a player but I do not know a step by step

  • @tomwiling2978
    @tomwiling2978 2 месяца назад

    ive tried to play this, had a winstreak in stage 2 and 3, lost everything from there on and died before even getting 9 lol, my first 3 guys had all above 80 hp and were highrolling as fck
    i think i am just not flexible enough to play this

  • @abangthor1330
    @abangthor1330 2 месяца назад

    Bro, u forget about tank orn that almost he used by

  • @tibijskiezakole3333
    @tibijskiezakole3333 2 месяца назад +1

    16:27 Kurwa power

  • @johnlark2637
    @johnlark2637 2 месяца назад +1

    with this shit i got top 8

  • @danielguzmansanchez9483
    @danielguzmansanchez9483 2 месяца назад

    I tried it earlier today and was top 1 against 3 star Bard. I almost got to Hwei 3, I had 6 copies and he kept copying himself. Also I had Irelia 2, Wukong 2, Rakan 2 and Udyr 2 😂😂😂
    I think I'm going spam it.

  • @Insurvx
    @Insurvx 2 месяца назад

    Buried Treasures III
    Gain a random item component at the start of the next 6 rounds (including this round).
    You have to eat 6 rounds for this???🤔

  • @leb8692
    @leb8692 2 месяца назад

    is janna for 3 DL > Annie for front?

    • @mack33467
      @mack33467 2 месяца назад

      In most cases no but if you have a lot of front line already and are lacking damage and attack speed then it can be considered

  • @lswsrya49
    @lswsrya49 2 месяца назад

    btw wheres milk, i miss him man😢

  • @blueflamedabi2403
    @blueflamedabi2403 2 месяца назад +1

    im a casual tft player but after trying this once i got 4th so thats postive lp gain and i did shit doing it but this is a fucked tactic haha i could see how this is a climbing machine

  • @beanshapeAli
    @beanshapeAli 2 месяца назад +3

    "If you never roll, you''ll bleed too much, then probably hit level 9, roll two times, and die. Has anybody seen that before?"
    So mean lolol I think they even made a silver augment for this

  • @WilliamAndrews0
    @WilliamAndrews0 2 месяца назад +3

    This wasn't even streamer-luck, that was straight up game-dev luck. The augments are insane, the portal is stupid OP for this comp, the encounters, especially Malphite with Support-gloves are a joke, and the rolls are beyond ridiculous. Annie on lvl5, into Hwei lvl 7 is indescribable. I can't even count how many games I couldn't get ANY 5-cost when rolling 50 gold on lvl 8, and he gets the exact right 5-cost on 7. Then Orrn2, Liss2 and Udyr2 in the same turn. I had so many games, where I couldn't even get an uncontested 4-cost to 2*. If I had that kinda luck in my games, I'd be master already as well. He made so many mistakes in this game and still won, because that was just Riot wanting him to win.

    • @googleeatsassdude
      @googleeatsassdude 2 месяца назад +3

      He had luck in this game but implying his climb to 3rd highest player on the server is somehow rigged is wild lol.

    • @WilliamAndrews0
      @WilliamAndrews0 2 месяца назад

      @@googleeatsassdude I'm not implying anything. I'm saying that using this game as an example of how this comp works is ridiculous, because he got extremely lucky at basically every aspect of the game that includes luck. Of course you have to have the right strategy, and know how to use the luck that you get, but if you want to learn a comp, looking at an ideal scenario isn't helpful. If I one-tricked a Kayle board to Masters, I wouldn't use an example where I got Galio early on 5 and Irelia early at 7 to say "see, it works!"

  • @Sastank08
    @Sastank08 2 месяца назад +1

    I wish I didnt suck at fast 9

  • @jacobhoang1497
    @jacobhoang1497 2 месяца назад

    bruh this team so broken when it got online that i manage to beat a kaisa 3 star with trick shot active

  • @PragmaticPsychiatry
    @PragmaticPsychiatry 2 месяца назад +4

    this was the easiest 8th place i've ever had- pro tip. make sure you hit hwei on 7

    • @FrodanTV
      @FrodanTV  2 месяца назад +2

      Fast 9 is incredibly easy to get a bottom finish if you misplay it or the conditions aren’t right. Don’t give up!

    • @PragmaticPsychiatry
      @PragmaticPsychiatry 2 месяца назад +1

      i know, it's def my worst strategy. i've tried pretty much all the other stuff you've gone over in your videos and learned a lot and gotten a lot of first places but man i cannot seem to land fast 9. it's the only thing i'm still practicing rn. your content has been the most helpful thing for me ever getting any first places so tyvm for what you put out @@FrodanTV

  • @DMYL02
    @DMYL02 2 месяца назад

    Just did this and got cooked by annie 3

  • @benimaru0
    @benimaru0 2 месяца назад

    where's milk now frodan is he quit playing TFT?

  • @tanveeralam6459
    @tanveeralam6459 2 месяца назад

    Day2: pls make video on double trouble augment this season

  • @deeky1239
    @deeky1239 Месяц назад

    He almost lost getting lucky with early azir and huei and getting another one on carrousel.

  • @jokerisback711
    @jokerisback711 2 месяца назад

    Is it Broseph Stalin?

  • @InsanityXx
    @InsanityXx 2 месяца назад

    I dont think he would roll if he wasnt playing too much candy

  • @Paul-wk6bv
    @Paul-wk6bv 2 месяца назад

    how to play: highroll hwei

  • @alfrednorrlin6944
    @alfrednorrlin6944 2 месяца назад +1

    Tier 2 competetive tft, meaning NA tft? lol
    Edit: Also nice callback to the dsg tourney

  • @flexecutegaming2997
    @flexecutegaming2997 2 месяца назад

    you played bots not one players was using meta bard 2 rage blades in the lobby

  • @cdcdx2
    @cdcdx2 2 месяца назад

    so the comp is just diana, janna and a bunch of 5 costs lol

  • @CallemanYO
    @CallemanYO 2 месяца назад +1

    GIGA bad VoD imo. hyper high roll that game.

  • @doctoryato8583
    @doctoryato8583 2 месяца назад

    Its so funny everyone's using this they depend on winning a lot i just break their streak and build other comps because they all use subpar build due to it being contested

  • @tazzgym3091
    @tazzgym3091 2 месяца назад

    cant play this in low elo

  • @axelrondeau8319
    @axelrondeau8319 2 месяца назад +1

    worst comp if you want to climb as casual player.

    • @BrandonAdams1010
      @BrandonAdams1010 2 месяца назад

      Bard + Tahm for the smooth brains (like me)

  • @victortran2962
    @victortran2962 2 месяца назад

    this vid came out too late, more and more broken reroll came out and dominate early/mid game that fast 9 is impossible to do without highroll

  • @iheartlownotes
    @iheartlownotes 2 месяца назад

    lotta silvers in comments not watching the vid 🥸

  • @idfsg533
    @idfsg533 2 месяца назад

    this is stupid this isnt a new fast nine its exactly how fast nine has always been done

  • @behwen6057
    @behwen6057 Месяц назад

    Nt gonna lie
    Must be boring like fuck plying one comp 247

  • @gravedigga4real781
    @gravedigga4real781 2 месяца назад

    This comp is bs lmaooo already becoming last set people who don't even know how to play just following a guide

  • @hmmmidk8847
    @hmmmidk8847 2 месяца назад

    pandora's box is not a good choice because the item is not guaranteed? lmao that's the whole point. you get random items every round. XDDD

  • @huseyinraptor6053
    @huseyinraptor6053 2 месяца назад

    zyra also wounds

  • @johncabangis5074
    @johncabangis5074 2 месяца назад

    When you're in silver and all of them just spam mythic or reroll 3 star chogath or anything 3 cost below into 3 star 🫶🏻🤣🤣🤣