Have had the bottom platform part of a climber stand fall out from under me descending after a hunt, it was tied to the top seat part but it was very awkward regaining control of the bottom part, I was hanging on the top with my armpits over the rail of the top, trying to get the bottom back up with my toes, I reached down too far and suddenly I was hanging from the safety harness , it was really hard to get that climber back together and get on down safely, if I ever use my climber again I will have my saddle on and as I go up I will stay tied in with my rope and move it up as I go, then rappel or just move the hitch as I move the climber down, and if I like the tree, leave a preset .. thanks John. Oh, and I have fallen out of a ladder lean to before, fell asleep and rolled out, luckily I fell into a bush and it wasn’t very high…
Awesome John! As I'm advancing in age (getting freakin old) I've used ladder stands occasionally. I do use your JRB rope climbing system but will add this to my ladder stand hunting. Thank you.
You worried about the rope going under the rail on the ladder stand? If the ladder stand falls during the climb it falls straight down and that rail and the weight of the ladder stand is sliding down the rope straight into your chest. Can the rope just ride over the rail and you can step straight over or side step over the rail instead of going under it? IDK if that makes sense. It just makes me nervous.
It's a good observation, and the very same risk is present if we were using a conventional fall harness and lifeline. I am unaware where the manufacturer recommends a tie in. If the rail flips up and if we can tie in over it, we could climb that way but it puts load on the rail and we get to a precarious point near the top would need to either "bypass" the rail or disconnect and reconnect in order to get the rail into position. There is risk either way. Also, these types of issues further reinforce my conviction that the safest way to climb a tree is using only a rope. Yesterday, I rope climbed a tree carrying a load of 105lbs. Not only was it possible, but it did not exhaust me and I was on no slack the whole time.
My question would be, how long would you consider the rope left in the tree to be safe? A squirrel might chew through it on day one. Assuming that doesn't happen, how long will climbing rope last out in the elements 24/7? I know that is climate dependent. Just asking ballpark. 1 year, 2, 3?
Thats a difficult question to answer, because of the amountof subjectivity. The longest I have ever left a rope in a tree is overnight. Was that safe? I do have porcupines... and they do love to chew on just about anything... and so we really don't know. SAFE is a relevant term... and the longer we leave something out, the greater the risk. Besides critters, there are other forms of degradation from the elements and UV light. For certain, we should never leave a rope thru to the next season and exoect it can be trusted. If you leave a rope in a tree during a hunting season, you are taking a calculated risk. What is presented here is a way to get that rope in and out of a tree whenever we want. If we do so every time, we can be assured our rope is good.
@jrbtc Thank you for your quick reply. For that I am going to sub. Maybe I misunderstood, I was thinking there was a short section of rope with a ring that had been in the tree since last hunting season.
Thanks man...
Have had the bottom platform part of a climber stand fall out from under me descending after a hunt, it was tied to the top seat part but it was very awkward regaining control of the bottom part, I was hanging on the top with my armpits over the rail of the top, trying to get the bottom back up with my toes, I reached down too far and suddenly I was hanging from the safety harness , it was really hard to get that climber back together and get on down safely, if I ever use my climber again I will have my saddle on and as I go up I will stay tied in with my rope and move it up as I go, then rappel or just move the hitch as I move the climber down, and if I like the tree, leave a preset .. thanks John. Oh, and I have fallen out of a ladder lean to before, fell asleep and rolled out, luckily I fell into a bush and it wasn’t very high…
Awesome John! As I'm advancing in age (getting freakin old) I've used ladder stands occasionally. I do use your JRB rope climbing system but will add this to my ladder stand hunting. Thank you.
Appreciate that. Test it out and let me know how it works. Make sure ya got enough rope and step AWAY to pull it through
You worried about the rope going under the rail on the ladder stand? If the ladder stand falls during the climb it falls straight down and that rail and the weight of the ladder stand is sliding down the rope straight into your chest. Can the rope just ride over the rail and you can step straight over or side step over the rail instead of going under it? IDK if that makes sense. It just makes me nervous.
It's a good observation, and the very same risk is present if we were using a conventional fall harness and lifeline. I am unaware where the manufacturer recommends a tie in. If the rail flips up and if we can tie in over it, we could climb that way but it puts load on the rail and we get to a precarious point near the top would need to either "bypass" the rail or disconnect and reconnect in order to get the rail into position. There is risk either way. Also, these types of issues further reinforce my conviction that the safest way to climb a tree is using only a rope. Yesterday, I rope climbed a tree carrying a load of 105lbs. Not only was it possible, but it did not exhaust me and I was on no slack the whole time.
My question would be, how long would you consider the rope left in the tree to be safe? A squirrel might chew through it on day one. Assuming that doesn't happen, how long will climbing rope last out in the elements 24/7? I know that is climate dependent. Just asking ballpark. 1 year, 2, 3?
Thats a difficult question to answer, because of the amountof subjectivity. The longest I have ever left a rope in a tree is overnight. Was that safe? I do have porcupines... and they do love to chew on just about anything... and so we really don't know. SAFE is a relevant term... and the longer we leave something out, the greater the risk. Besides critters, there are other forms of degradation from the elements and UV light. For certain, we should never leave a rope thru to the next season and exoect it can be trusted. If you leave a rope in a tree during a hunting season, you are taking a calculated risk. What is presented here is a way to get that rope in and out of a tree whenever we want. If we do so every time, we can be assured our rope is good.
@jrbtc Thank you for your quick reply. For that I am going to sub. Maybe I misunderstood, I was thinking there was a short section of rope with a ring that had been in the tree since last hunting season.
@jrbtc I am betting now that you pulled the rope through the ring, around the back of the tree and then back through the eye.
@tradbowtimewithuncledan2686 yes, this shows the details.
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@@jrbtc thank you sir