I've had mine for about 5 years I've redid the door and installed a gasket around it. Love the stove. I use mine in a guide tent. I like the exhaust pipe ideas thanks
I added more strength aby the legs and added 2 door hinges to the top of the front opening. No more smoke in my tent. I've had my tent 180f in 13f outdoor temps.
@@TamponTea that would be easier to cut and mount in the door I have thanks. I've got a stove fan I set on it to move the air . we got 4 inches of snow the last time we took it out and 16 degrees at night I found that if I cut the fire logs from wal mart or wherever into 1/3 it burns with no smoke. To old or dummy to know how to share photos of my set up on here
Great little stove. If you add a 2.5 inch-3 inch muffler adapter and go with inexpensive 3 inch heat duct for stove pipe you can increase the draw and not have any smoke problems. I see you are propping the doors open. Add a rack and get the wood off the bottom of the stove. That will increase the burn by quite a bit. Find a free grate or make one or buy a cheap one at Home Depot/Lowes and cut it to fit. If you aren't getting enough air flow you can cut a sliding slot below the spinner damper or open up the holes by 25%. It's all about air flow, so the more air you let in the hotter more efficient the burn. Take a wire brush and sand off the stock paint and spray high heat paint ASAP. The stock paint will eventually burn off and rust out if you aren't careful. With a little DIY, this is an awesome little wood burning stove. PS, your pipe is installed backwards and will bleed out creosote, so only burn super dry wood. That's another problem with this stove that needs attention. Do the 2.5-3 inch mod and you won't have that issue.
Here's a cheap idea. In the spring people set their old propane grills out to the curb for the trash man to haul away. I found one with a side burner. I threw out the bbq grill burners and capped off the gas port to the grill at the regulator. I put another layer of metal in the bottom of the grill. They are usually rusted through. That way I can cook on charcoal or wood on the grill side or use the propane burner on the side of the stove. It makes a good backup cooking appliance if a storm knocks out the power. A 20 pound propane tank will last a month or so for most people. I could conserve gas by setting a paint can hobo stove in the grill side and doing most of my cooking on that using twigs for fuel. Thanks for the video.
Good video, SouthernPrepper1. It looks like the outdoor patio will have more usage during the cold months. .... Quite a few people will have an outdoor stove, they use to keep warm, while smoking tobacco outside.
I have one of these, it was one of the originals, I could never get much heat out of it. Also the opening on the back allows air to get to the fire and then smoke comes out of the front. So here are the fixes I put into mine, I added a 7 inch piece of stainless steal at the top about 14 inches long. I cut out the two inch pipe, it would not draw well so I put in a 4 inch pipe with a damper. I also added a second air pipe which I ran under the grate which super heats the air and shoots it into the smoke at the top of the stove. I had to use a hole punch to put this in it extends about 3 inches below the stove in the back. It is now a drive you out of the tent stove, and it has a very clean burn. One last thing the opening on the back just allows your wood to burn more quickly than you want try to keep it closed. Oh and don't forget to add some stove gasket to the door and the bottom where the clean out trap is. Helps control the burn.
I bought a different one from sportsmans guide a few years back, its the more square one that costs about $140, it probably weighs twice as much as these, so its less portable. The steel is very thick and the pipe is a larger diameter. It doesn't come with as many accessories but the quality is makes it worth it for me. and the box is large enough that I was able to line the bottom and I built a little grate to keep the logs up. Great vid as always!
I cut a piece of steel grating and put it in the bottom of mine. Solves 2 potential issues. Allows for better and more efficient burning as air can get underneath the wood and as well, it will give the belly of the stove a longer life.
+duxdawg The window screen just doesn't last as long , the hardware cloth even though it has larger openings can be double wrapped and the mesh doesn't necessarily catch the spark as much as change the flow out of the flue( you can actually watch sparks doing little swirls inside the cap) just enough to stop most sparks. All the same,whatever works well for you.
I was lucky and snagged a 55 gl stainless steel barrel. Key thing here is its Stainless Steel! Very thick walled. In fact, I burned trough 5 Cobalt, aircraft grade drill bits just cutting the holes for the stove kit. Since I'm not a machinist it took some GI ingenuity to figure out how to cut out the door and stack openings but was successful. I haven't cranked it up yet but I'm very sure its going to be super heat and cook stove. One thing I added was metal tape on the stack seams to close up any potential air leaks.
(from Brazil) i apologize my english full fail ... CONGRATULATIONS! it was beautiful, practical and also very elegant ... I loved the solutions you created ... with your permission, I will copy the model and make one for myself here in Brazil. God bless you !!
SP1,I used a stove almost identical to these in minus 30 celcius in a military arctic tent, I found it heated the tent nicely. Downside was the grill on top didn't get hot enough to cook bacon, (minus 30 might of been the issue), I am mod'ing mine to have a flat top. I also found that the pieces of chimney stuck together on tear down the creosote created a tar like glue making it VERY difficult to take apart. I plan on changing the direction of the way the chimney fit so the creosote cannot run down and stick pipe together. I also am gonna add a chimney flue. we shall see.keep up the great videos!!Jay out
bought one of these for 43.00 free shipping online used it in my old 1969 travel trailer up deer hunting. had to turn all the pipe over so the creasote from burning wood would stay inside the pipe and not run outside and smoke up the trailer picked up a metal roof vent and run it up through the vent worked great once I got the pipe turned right. I plan on putting screws in the pipe to hold them together next time I use it
I use sg all the time.I loaded up on 7.62 when the Russian sanctions where put on and all came In quickly and cheap and not one issue on anything since from anyone I know.Great company in my opinion.Thank you for sharing to others
Repeated painting won't help. Cure the metal instead using rendered fat from the meat you are cooking on the grill. Same principle as curing cast iron skillets, or woks. Over the years we've tried every type of high temp paint, even some that required us kiln heating the pit, applying the paint, then baking the paint into an enamel and it all flakes off rather quickly with repeated use. Keeping the metal treated with a food grade oil, such as rendered fat will prevent rust and make your investment last much longer.
Good timing on this... I just ordered a 4 Dog Night stove, their "2 dog night" model. They are a bit on the expensive side, but I plan on doing some cold weather camping too so it's not just going to sit and wait for an emergency situation. This one is made in the USA and I can see it lasting a lifetime by the reviews I've read. It's also apparently very efficient because of the design of a baffle inside the firebox. Idk, just thought I'd share, mine should be delivered this Friday,,, can't wait to try it out. Maybe I'll post a review of it here.
Thanks, I'll check it out. I got the campchef stove with water heater and two rack, it's similar to the DX with Camp Chef being more functional. I will refer others to yours as mine is no longer available, just the hot water tank for mine can be purchased at this point.
I got my TMS two years ago. Yeah the paint burned off and there was no gasket to seal the door, easy fixes. Very nice to have for emergency use or occasional use, not long term as they aren't meant to last. Nice little stoves for the money.
I bought one from Ebay. The first time I burned it the paint peeled in sections. So I sanded it off, bought some high temp stove paint and made it look nice. Mine is only 10 inches in diameter. I was hoping to use it to heat a teepee but it won't hold a fire for more than two hours so a guy would have to be waking up frequently. The bad thing about camping in WI is everything feels damp in the morning, but that's everything is green too. Even a small fire keeps the humidity out. If they would make this in a 12 inch diameter and make it longer, it might be able to hold a fire all night.
VHT spray can paint will actually stay on there. (Heat resistant) Also good for sprayin brake calipers. Thanks for thhe referal of those stoves. You got a deal on the two you caught on sale! 😎👍🙏🇺🇸❤
Great video. My Brother-in-Law has something quite similar. Quite affordable, and seeing as he's on 22 acres, of which probably 7/8 is wooded, it's perfect. He also takes it tent camping/hunting, and does a decent job keeping the tent warm as well. Anyone with access to a decent source of wood, would do well to purchase one.
Glad to see you're uploading again! I don't know if/how the metal roof flange you installed is supported. If not already, I'd be attaching it directly to the stake(s) so it doesn't pull down your stack(s) in high wind. A nice little stove. I have something similar. When it comes to cooking and heating, you can't beat wood.
I have one that's made outta a propane bottle, works like a charm.for boiling water and cooking. Its got a expanded grate top on it and side removable shelves. One of my favorite pieces of equipment :)
Prob do what you want them to do but way to light for say if someone want to hook up a pipe and heat a bit down stairs in their home... Propane tank fire place conversions are amazing!! Thanks 4 sharing.
These wood stoves could easily be put inside in an emergency situation and the exhaust could go out the window I think. You would just need a foam / metal plate for the window.
I love mine. Although I use solar for heating water, its still good to have a way to heat water on cloudy days. They also heat the space theyre in fairly well. I put in a damper lever at the base of the chimney stack, which allows for a little more control. But yeah, I love mine.
See. China is not the enemy. They are providing us useful products at a reasonable price to help us through the hard times we created for ourselves. They have every right to Taiwan. And Russia has every right to Ukraine. And when Americans are hungry, they will then see how worthless this "democracy" is we currently live in.
Paint , BBQ spray , so not a issue in the field, To me its a luxury And a bivy ( shelter ) with tarp ideal and for 60 bucks, Thats not a lunch meal and a few beers for you and yours. A home made grate so you dont burn out the bottom and very good to go , if it lasts 2 years , i think it will Ha its gold, its light to carry , i rap food in tinfoil and carry it with a harness made from a shopping trolley that i tow attached to my belt . ( shopping trolley type your wife or girl has . works well ,). So thanks for putting me on to this item, I bought after seeing this vid, 10 months in still going strong , So very much apprecado and mucho gratis Southern. O saw your Vid on folding saws, I am now the proud owner of a Silky Katanaboy 15 inch , wow does that cut , 6 inch dia log Piece of cake, really guys stays razor sharp and unbelievable cutting power.Again thanks for info or i would not have thought of Silky ,
Kev M + 10 months on it. Good. But a good quality woodburning stove should be serving 100 years. Plenty have. For example, Round Oak stoves. GTO compared to VW bug.
put some screen wire roun the top cap openin to keep out birds who might try nesting in there. Happened to my stove in the greenhouse. Thanks for your help Dave
Excellent recommendation… I’m looking at similar products that are more than double the price… regarding a shelter warming method… my roomate had been homeless for a while and lived in an old mail truck … he used a small candle, tea lites work… with a could block and a sheet of metal of some kind … the candle heats up the metal which gives off radiant heat. I can’t recall how he had it set up… there’s vids about it… I live in the desert and I’ve put off experimenting with this, but I need to get on that… thanks for the reminder
just a quick suggestion you can heat a lot of water via solar, there's several solar "shower" bags out there that don't cost much and you don't have to use it just for showers a 55 gal barrel painted black will get the water pretty hot certainly enough to wash clothes, kids, dishes etc
I have one , I got rid of the 2" flu pipe and cut a 4" hole , put the crimped end of a 4" stove pipe in the hole , and it works great now, also I put a damper in the first section.
They are ok stoves, but and this is only a little but, they are cheap and made to a price! I have a Frontier Stove made along the same design but is a little bit better made and it cooks great. In both stove's you can or could get a wrap around boiler for the flue pipe to heat water, or wrap a flexi copper pipe around the flue and create a thermosyphon system. Thanks for the vid.T
Came across your video. Looking into buying one of these for my greenhouse, which is basically a tent with a clear cover. I just want to try keeping plants from freezing in Jan & Feb. Thank you for the information.
@@susanbeaty2447 I been following him for awhile myself. Found him through ole Scootch as well! And, coincidentally enough I been checking these wood burning stoves out a bit lately too
Check out the water kettle for that stove. It attaches to the stove pipe and has a long spout that hangs over the edge for filling your mug or whatever else you need hot water for, very nice Amazon sells them. I have read reviews about these stoves warping, have you noticed that with yours?
Cool I have always wanted one of these but because I didnt know how they actually stacked up I hadnt gotten one yet .. THANKS for showin it ,.. Im a fellow Guide member too !! Hard to be the guide when they have free shipping !!
Would it be safe to put this stove in a garage with the pipe stack going out the window? Thank you for being here I really enjoy and learn a lot from your videos. God bless you and your family🕊️
Since you asked for questions, I'll field my top questions regarding things that could make my home uninhabitable in a grid-down scenario: 1) Water. 1A) We have our own well. I want to add a solar and battery auxiliary power system. As a second back-up, I think a hand pump may be a decent idea. What's the best way to switch the system from electric to hand pump in a grid-down situation? 1B) As a tertiary back-up, there is a creek nearby that springs from less than half a mile away. It goes through only one property before reaching a place where public could access, so it should be clean of chemical pollution. It is 200 - 300 yards away. Is there a human powered pump solution for drawing it up through a pipe to our property? 2) Heat. We live in a double-wide that will never be able to move again. There is no fire place, so what's the best back-up heating system? 3) Cooling. Same as above, what's the best way to cool a place like this in the summer without electricity?
thanks for doing this vid man i have wondered about those stoves. i have my mr buddy backup heat but we all know 2 is 1 and 1 is none ...SO ya kinda sold me on them as the secondary back up ...thanks again
I have found these on Ebay for $30 and all the way up to $80. Same stove, some are trying to get rich quick. The round part is only 10 inches. I wish someone would make one in 18 inch diameter or even 24. This can heat a tent but it can't hold a fire all night. You have to wake up at least two times in the night to feed it.
Because you have the second elevation of your retaining wall, you might find that you could have a second cooking location using the heat that is coming out of the top of the smoke stacks. Either make a support structure for a big pot to sit a few inches above the chimney top and cook soup all day heat water or have it blast against a piece of plate steel and use that as a cooking surface. additionally with very little extra work, you could run your water heating thermal siphon pipe inside your upper chimney...
This seems like a good little start for my needs. But I really need some help with what to do first in my planning. I'm 61 with some chronic, but not deadly, issues. I have been prepping for about 5 years. BUT, first I prepped in an apt. Now I have a condo like inlaw. So I have a lot more room and storage. My issue is there seems to be SO MUCH TO DO and my mind gets boggled with everything I really need to have on hand. One issue is it is really just me doing all of this. My daughter and her husband basically think I'm nuts. SO I'm not able to do it with my whole family. SO now I'm just trying to save enough of everything for myself and my younger daughter first, and then my older daughter and her family second. I could really use some counsel on what to focus on living in the suburbs without an option to go find something hidden in the woods.
sometimes a big woodstove can be intimidating especially if your new to the whole thing, these are small and reasonable enough to be a good starting point.... also a good way to involve the bigger kids in setting a fire too.... edited because I can't spell...lol
loch ness Well, no. Actually getting a real wood stove is less intimidating. You will need a flew with a damper for sure. A side loading stove is nice. One with an ash pan/drawer. Brick lined in the fire box. You need to keep the fire hot to keep creosote from becoming sticky and building up to fast or you will start a fire in the chimney. I used a stove pipe temp gauge. It's chimney fires that usually burn down houses. This is what I do. You should seek out good information and proceed carefully. Otherwise I recommend not burning at all until you and especially your children know what they are doing. Even/especially with a rinky dink camp stove from China.
Dude I paid 25.00 on Amazon almost two years ago. You know how Amazon is prices change all the time. The tubes can be used for potatoes that you can wrap in foil and put them inside. Also I like your idea of making a list of items you need. A couple of things I thought of was a hand plow and a sweeper that has two rolls of brushes and picks up dirt and then you dump the pan. No electricity needed. I've been buying binoculars and tactical flashlight and solar motion detector lights. Would like to see you do recommendation on binoculars if you haven't already. I'll look Thanks
If I may, I've noticed people doing their own stoves or at least stove pipe chimney installations are putting the pipe stacks on upside down. Point is that if you burn wet or green wood, the moisture that will run down the inside of the stack chimney pipe runs into the stove and not down the outside. One may think that the chimney won't seal, but soot build up does it. Think of feeding that moisture back into the pipe. otherwise at each pipe crimped connection leaks resulting in a dangerous combustable creosote type buildup.
Those are neat. For $60, I would had picked one up. I have a nice cast iron wood strove with a cook top, but that thing weights like 80lb, ha. Not something I can move around easily.
There is a water heater that is sold by someone that will hang on the side of those stoves. I can not remember who makes them but I have seen them online. With a little searching you might find them. Yes water can be boiled on top of them, but adding the hanging water tanks would allow for heating water for coffee, tea, hot co co, washing hands or bowl bathing while at the same time cooking. My wife and I were looking for stoves just like that and somehow got the website that sold the water tanks for them but they did not sell the stoves, so we figured they made them, but did not make the stoves. I think the water tanks were more square or rectangled looking, but they did hang on the sides of that style stove.
+enerZise I have two of the water tanks ordered and they have shipped so hopefully in 2 more days will have them to test them out. I waited till I found them a little cheaper and they where still expensive $39 each so hopefully they work good. I think they are only 2 quarts so not a lot of water but for tea and coffee will work.
I was looking at your video again and I suspect there is a lot of heat radiating from the bottom of those stoves. There is enough room to put a metal rack or cinder blocks under them to use as a heating stand for keeping food already cooked warm. Sort of using the bottom of the stove as a heat lamp that is.
Sounds like the campchef website, they sell the water heater for $109, but no longer sell the stove. I have the stove and hot water heater. I did several years of research before I purchased, so I believe it was the best stove available for the price when I purchased the Camp Chef Wood Stove.
Very nice. If you cannot reach high enough to put that #10 can on the elbow stove; perhaps you could drill a small hole _(1/8")_ in the bottom of the outside elbow, for water to seep out?
consider putting a piece of metal in the bottom of the stove which is replaceable if it gets melted. some fire brick or maybe even dirt. more expensive stoves may be made with thicker metal all around which would make them stronger, more durable but heavier.
Todd Lockrie thank you for the heads up buddy will definitely take your advice. I'll burn it a first time in the yard then strip it down and re coat it with the high temp spray paint. Thanks again 👍🏻
I would have some back up chimney pipe so you can change them out clean them and change them back ... chimney fires are a real problem if build up catches fire. but otherwise looking forward to the comparison to the more money versions
Those tubes could be closed at the front with a metal tap & the rear closed with an open & flared top so you can fill it with water, let steam out so it doesn't swell & burst and you will be able to temp the water or see when it's boiling :)
I got one from Amazon at$100 now. Mine has bigger tubes, a grate in the bottom for the wood and the trap door to rake out the ashes. Hoping it will augment my Coleman stove and larger 2 burner propane stove that I use for canning..
Thanks for the video. I have wondered about their quality and the long-term usability. If they are too cheaply made the welding points may not handle a fire that got too hot.
Can you keep a small 10 x 12 building warm that has installation in it warm ? And can you let me know how it done after you had for a while I know that this is a old video . Just interested
I sure do need one of these. I'm disabled living in a travel trailer and can't afford propane. I have a bad back and during the cold months my back hurts really bad. this heater would sure be nice to have to keep me and my two girls ( Dog's ) warm... can you please give me the name of the stove? I want to get one one when I can afford it. thanks for sharing this with us.
Doing a small 12x12 shed soon. just like a litttle heat in the winter for 2 or 3 hours at a time. if i put the stack out the back you think this will be big enough for what i need.
The major factor to the life of the stove is the quality (type / grade) of steel and the thickness of the steel. A 55 gal. drum is made of low grade and thin metal and will burn out quickly when used as a simple burn barrel.
How is the draft? 3 inch automoive pipe enough? Also. fireplace exhaust pipe is stacked with the top pipe fitting into a lower pipe. Just so resin and debris flows down into the fire and not oustside the pipe. I have been studying something like this for a shop heater.
+Christopher Z The draft could be better so you need to keep the vent opened all the way. I am going to do some testing with another piece of pipe maybe longer will help.
+southernprepper1 Try only using one elbow,every elbow you add decreases draw. As someone else suggested,look into the Vogelzang barrel stove kits,I've heated a 24x36 ft garage/shop with one for years. All you need is a solid 55 gallon drum,and a bag or so of sand from Lowe's/Home Depot/Wal_mart to line the bottom of the barrel with.
So these seem like nice little stoves, but for your purposes, how are they better than firebrick or concrete block rocketstoves that can be made for under $20. You can make 4 of them for the price you paid for one of these stoves with your inputs. They burn just as hot, if not hotter, and use a fraction of the wood (Understanding that you have an endless supply). Not trying to be argumentative Im just trying to see the real benefit of these. I really like the idea of outdoor kitchens in the summer to keep the house temps at a reasonable level. Thanks again for sharing, Dave.
+Dave Pruitt I like the ability to have the smoke away from the cooks and exhausted higher up. Plus you can use it in a make shift shelter. Plus everything stores in the stove and light weight to carry in a vehicle. I love the concrete block homemade rocketstove they work great also.
southernprepper1 Thank you would like to see a cooking video when you do. I would roll them up and leave some of the foil long on the end so you can pull them out of the pipe when cooked should work ?
I've had mine for about 5 years I've redid the door and installed a gasket around it. Love the stove. I use mine in a guide tent. I like the exhaust pipe ideas thanks
I added more strength aby the legs and added 2 door hinges to the top of the front opening. No more smoke in my tent. I've had my tent 180f in 13f outdoor temps.
@@TamponTea I also put a brace between the legs I want to remove the door and get the glass out of an oven door and make a door out of the glass
@@leeh.4729 I did a glass door and I woke up to a tent of full of smoke. I think a small miracle window 2x3 would be better
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@@TamponTea that would be easier to cut and mount in the door I have thanks. I've got a stove fan I set on it to move the air . we got 4 inches of snow the last time we took it out and 16 degrees at night I found that if I cut the fire logs from wal mart or wherever into 1/3 it burns with no smoke. To old or dummy to know how to share photos of my set up on here
Great little stove. If you add a 2.5 inch-3 inch muffler adapter and go with inexpensive 3 inch heat duct for stove pipe you can increase the draw and not have any smoke problems. I see you are propping the doors open. Add a rack and get the wood off the bottom of the stove. That will increase the burn by quite a bit. Find a free grate or make one or buy a cheap one at Home Depot/Lowes and cut it to fit. If you aren't getting enough air flow you can cut a sliding slot below the spinner damper or open up the holes by 25%. It's all about air flow, so the more air you let in the hotter more efficient the burn. Take a wire brush and sand off the stock paint and spray high heat paint ASAP. The stock paint will eventually burn off and rust out if you aren't careful. With a little DIY, this is an awesome little wood burning stove.
PS, your pipe is installed backwards and will bleed out creosote, so only burn super dry wood. That's another problem with this stove that needs attention. Do the 2.5-3 inch mod and you won't have that issue.
Here's a cheap idea. In the spring people set their old propane grills out to the curb for the trash man to haul away.
I found one with a side burner. I threw out the bbq grill burners and capped off the gas port to the grill at the regulator.
I put another layer of metal in the bottom of the grill. They are usually rusted through.
That way I can cook on charcoal or wood on the grill side or use the propane burner on the side of the stove.
It makes a good backup cooking appliance if a storm knocks out the power.
A 20 pound propane tank will last a month or so for most people.
I could conserve gas by setting a paint can hobo stove in the grill side and doing most of my cooking on that using twigs for fuel.
Thanks for the video.
If you want the stove to last longer fill the bottom with sand. This will keep the bottom from rusting out as quickly.
+TRU Dat Thin fire bricks would be a better option, less mess and easier to clean/separate ashes.
+Tom M
Brick is better than nothing, but not as good as sand for rust.
Great tip
Good video, SouthernPrepper1. It looks like the outdoor patio will have more usage during the cold months. .... Quite a few people will have an outdoor stove, they use to keep warm, while smoking tobacco outside.
I have one of these, it was one of the originals, I could never get much heat out of it. Also the opening on the back allows air to get to the fire and then smoke comes out of the front. So here are the fixes I put into mine, I added a 7 inch piece of stainless steal at the top about 14 inches long. I cut out the two inch pipe, it would not draw well so I put in a 4 inch pipe with a damper. I also added a second air pipe which I ran under the grate which super heats the air and shoots it into the smoke at the top of the stove. I had to use a hole punch to put this in it extends about 3 inches below the stove in the back. It is now a drive you out of the tent stove, and it has a very clean burn. One last thing the opening on the back just allows your wood to burn more quickly than you want try to keep it closed. Oh and don't forget to add some stove gasket to the door and the bottom where the clean out trap is. Helps control the burn.
I bought a different one from sportsmans guide a few years back, its the more square one that costs about $140, it probably weighs twice as much as these, so its less portable. The steel is very thick and the pipe is a larger diameter. It doesn't come with as many accessories but the quality is makes it worth it for me. and the box is large enough that I was able to line the bottom and I built a little grate to keep the logs up. Great vid as always!
I have a similar version of this stove...tubes are a bit bigger and door is a bit different. I love it!
I cut a piece of steel grating and put it in the bottom of mine. Solves 2 potential issues. Allows for better and more efficient burning as air can get underneath the wood and as well, it will give the belly of the stove a longer life.
That and putting a piece of hardware cloth (wire mesh)around the flue cap make those little stoves much better.
+duxdawg The window screen just doesn't last as long , the hardware cloth even though it has larger openings can be double wrapped and the mesh doesn't necessarily catch the spark as much as change the flow out of the flue( you can actually watch sparks doing little swirls inside the cap) just enough to stop most sparks. All the same,whatever works well for you.
+RealRickyRoss that is an excellent idea.
@@jamesbridges7750 Thanks
love 💕 it you are so clever and resourceful your boots on the ground
is something I look forward to daily 👩🏻🦰
I was lucky and snagged a 55 gl stainless steel barrel. Key thing here is its Stainless Steel! Very thick walled. In fact, I burned trough 5 Cobalt, aircraft grade drill bits just cutting the holes for the stove kit. Since I'm not a machinist it took some GI ingenuity to figure out how to cut out the door and stack openings but was successful. I haven't cranked it up yet but I'm very sure its going to be super heat and cook stove. One thing I added was metal tape on the stack seams to close up any potential air leaks.
(from Brazil)
i apologize my english full fail ... CONGRATULATIONS!
it was beautiful, practical and also very elegant ... I loved the solutions you created ... with your permission, I will copy the model and make one for myself here in Brazil. God bless you !!
SP1,I used a stove almost identical to these in minus 30 celcius in a military arctic tent, I found it heated the tent nicely. Downside was the grill on top didn't get hot enough to cook bacon, (minus 30 might of been the issue), I am mod'ing mine to have a flat top. I also found that the pieces of chimney stuck together on tear down the creosote created a tar like glue making it VERY difficult to take apart. I plan on changing the direction of the way the chimney fit so the creosote cannot run down and stick pipe together. I also am gonna add a chimney flue. we shall see.keep up the great videos!!Jay out
bought one of these for 43.00 free shipping online used it in my old 1969 travel trailer up deer hunting. had to turn all the pipe over so the creasote from burning wood would stay inside the pipe and not run outside and smoke up the trailer picked up a metal roof vent and run it up through the vent worked great once I got the pipe turned right. I plan on putting screws in the pipe to hold them together next time I use it
Man I wish I could back back to the day I watched this video 😢
So good to have you back making videos! Thanks for another great video :). Hope you and your wife are having a good Christmas season.
I use sg all the time.I loaded up on 7.62 when the Russian sanctions where put on and all came In quickly and cheap and not one issue on anything since from anyone I know.Great company in my opinion.Thank you for sharing to others
Repeated painting won't help. Cure the metal instead using rendered fat from the meat you are cooking on the grill. Same principle as curing cast iron skillets, or woks. Over the years we've tried every type of high temp paint, even some that required us kiln heating the pit, applying the paint, then baking the paint into an enamel and it all flakes off rather quickly with repeated use. Keeping the metal treated with a food grade oil, such as rendered fat will prevent rust and make your investment last much longer.
Thanks, I never thought about it, makes sense.
Good timing on this... I just ordered a 4 Dog Night stove, their "2 dog night" model. They are a bit on the expensive side, but I plan on doing some cold weather camping too so it's not just going to sit and wait for an emergency situation. This one is made in the USA and I can see it lasting a lifetime by the reviews I've read. It's also apparently very efficient because of the design of a baffle inside the firebox. Idk, just thought I'd share, mine should be delivered this Friday,,, can't wait to try it out. Maybe I'll post a review of it here.
Thanks, I'll check it out. I got the campchef stove with water heater and two rack, it's similar to the DX with Camp Chef being more functional. I will refer others to yours as mine is no longer available, just the hot water tank for mine can be purchased at this point.
I got my TMS two years ago. Yeah the paint burned off and there was no gasket to seal the door, easy fixes. Very nice to have for emergency use or occasional use, not long term as they aren't meant to last. Nice little stoves for the money.
I bought one from Ebay. The first time I burned it the paint peeled in sections.
So I sanded it off, bought some high temp stove paint and made it look nice.
Mine is only 10 inches in diameter. I was hoping to use it to heat a teepee but it won't hold a fire for more than two hours so a guy would have to be waking up frequently. The bad thing about camping in WI is everything feels damp in the morning, but that's everything is green too. Even a small fire keeps the humidity out.
If they would make this in a 12 inch diameter and make it longer, it might be able to hold a fire all night.
VHT spray can paint will actually stay on there. (Heat resistant)
Also good for sprayin brake calipers.
Thanks for thhe referal of those stoves. You got a deal on the two you caught on sale!
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Great video. My Brother-in-Law has something quite similar. Quite affordable, and seeing as he's on 22 acres, of which probably 7/8 is wooded, it's perfect. He also takes it tent camping/hunting, and does a decent job keeping the tent warm as well. Anyone with access to a decent source of wood, would do well to purchase one.
Glad to see you're uploading again! I don't know if/how the metal roof flange you installed is supported. If not already, I'd be attaching it directly to the stake(s) so it doesn't pull down your stack(s) in high wind. A nice little stove. I have something similar. When it comes to cooking and heating, you can't beat wood.
I have one that's made outta a propane bottle, works like a charm.for boiling water and cooking. Its got a expanded grate top on it and side removable shelves. One of my favorite pieces of equipment :)
Prob do what you want them to do but way to light for say if someone want to hook up a pipe and heat a bit down stairs in their home...
Propane tank fire place conversions are amazing!!
Thanks 4 sharing.
Love the fire extinguisher; my Dad would be impressed...
These wood stoves could easily be put inside in an emergency situation and the exhaust could go out the window I think. You would just need a foam / metal plate for the window.
I love mine. Although I use solar for heating water, its still good to have a way to heat water on cloudy days. They also heat the space theyre in fairly well. I put in a damper lever at the base of the chimney stack, which allows for a little more control. But yeah, I love mine.
See. China is not the enemy. They are providing us useful products at a reasonable price to help us through the hard times we created for ourselves. They have every right to Taiwan. And Russia has every right to Ukraine. And when Americans are hungry, they will then see how worthless this "democracy" is we currently live in.
Paint , BBQ spray , so not a issue in the field, To me its a luxury And a bivy ( shelter ) with tarp ideal and for 60 bucks, Thats not a lunch meal and a few beers for you and yours. A home made grate so you dont burn out the bottom and very good to go , if it lasts 2 years , i think it will Ha its gold, its light to carry , i rap food in tinfoil and carry it with a harness made from a shopping trolley that i tow attached to my belt . ( shopping trolley type your wife or girl has . works well ,). So thanks for putting me on to this item, I bought after seeing this vid, 10 months in still going strong , So very much apprecado and mucho gratis Southern. O saw your Vid on folding saws, I am now the proud owner of a Silky Katanaboy 15 inch , wow does that cut , 6 inch dia log Piece of cake, really guys stays razor sharp and unbelievable cutting power.Again thanks for info or i would not have thought of Silky ,
Kev M + 10 months on it. Good. But a good quality woodburning stove should be serving 100 years. Plenty have. For example, Round Oak stoves. GTO compared to VW bug.
I am a fan of the Vogelzang barrel stove kits. Heating my shop for over 6 years now in the upper Midwest.
Are they ok to use inside?
put some screen wire roun the top cap openin to keep out birds who might try nesting in there. Happened to my stove in the greenhouse. Thanks for your help Dave
Excellent recommendation… I’m looking at similar products that are more than double the price… regarding a shelter warming method… my roomate had been homeless for a while and lived in an old mail truck … he used a small candle, tea lites work… with a could block and a sheet of metal of some kind … the candle heats up the metal which gives off radiant heat. I can’t recall how he had it set up… there’s vids about it… I live in the desert and I’ve put off experimenting with this, but I need to get on that… thanks for the reminder
Yes I have the one with the bigger potato cookers and stacks it also has a hot water boiler that came with it they are great stoves
I use one of these indoors for a small cabin and it works great
I have one, but it smokes like crazy and can’t close the door all way or the fire goes out. How do you make your work
just a quick suggestion you can heat a lot of water via solar, there's several solar "shower" bags out there that don't cost much and you don't have to use it just for showers a 55 gal barrel painted black will get the water pretty hot certainly enough to wash clothes, kids, dishes etc
I have one , I got rid of the 2" flu pipe and cut a 4" hole , put the crimped end of a 4" stove pipe in the hole , and it works great now, also I put a damper in the first section.
They are ok stoves, but and this is only a little but, they are cheap and made to a price!
I have a Frontier Stove made along the same design but is a little bit better made and it cooks great.
In both stove's you can or could get a wrap around boiler for the flue pipe to heat water, or wrap a flexi copper pipe around the flue and create a thermosyphon system. Thanks for the vid.T
Came across your video. Looking into buying one of these for my greenhouse, which is basically a tent with a clear cover. I just want to try keeping plants from freezing in Jan & Feb. Thank you for the information.
I have been looking at these! Thank you for the video.
Hey skinny medic I just started watching your videos Love them. I learned about you from sensibleprepper.
@@susanbeaty2447 I been following him for awhile myself. Found him through ole Scootch as well! And, coincidentally enough I been checking these wood burning stoves out a bit lately too
Check out the water kettle for that stove. It attaches to the stove pipe and has a long spout that hangs over the edge for filling your mug or whatever else you need hot water for, very nice Amazon sells them. I have read reviews about these stoves warping, have you noticed that with yours?
This is awesome you make great videos
Cool I have always wanted one of these but because I didnt know how they actually stacked up I hadnt gotten one yet .. THANKS for showin it ,.. Im a fellow Guide member too !! Hard to be the guide when they have free shipping !!
Would it be safe to put this stove in a garage with the pipe stack going out the window? Thank you for being here I really enjoy and learn a lot from your videos. God bless you and your family🕊️
Thats what I want to do in my garage
Since you asked for questions, I'll field my top questions regarding things that could make my home uninhabitable in a grid-down scenario:
1) Water.
1A) We have our own well. I want to add a solar and battery auxiliary power system. As a second back-up, I think a hand pump may be a decent idea. What's the best way to switch the system from electric to hand pump in a grid-down situation?
1B) As a tertiary back-up, there is a creek nearby that springs from less than half a mile away. It goes through only one property before reaching a place where public could access, so it should be clean of chemical pollution. It is 200 - 300 yards away. Is there a human powered pump solution for drawing it up through a pipe to our property?
2) Heat. We live in a double-wide that will never be able to move again. There is no fire place, so what's the best back-up heating system?
3) Cooling. Same as above, what's the best way to cool a place like this in the summer without electricity?
I would use it for winter hot tent camping, making sure my tent is modified safely for the stack with a spark arrestor... Nice.
Again. Thank you for looking out for the rest of us.
thanks for doing this vid man i have wondered about those stoves. i have my mr buddy backup heat but we all know 2 is 1 and 1 is none ...SO ya kinda sold me on them as the secondary back up ...thanks again
I like the pattern in the concrete retaining wall.
Good looking stove! i have been thinking a lot about buying one of these, but just wasn't sure about them. This is a big help! Thanks for sharing!
I have this stove, adapted it to 5" stove pipe with a stov jack in a tent, keeps me toasty in the cold weather.
i would use stove black, not paint. it's formulated for indoor use too. so fumes coming off it wile cooking in, would mean alot even outside.
I have found these on Ebay for $30 and all the way up to $80. Same stove, some are trying to get rich quick.
The round part is only 10 inches. I wish someone would make one in 18 inch diameter or even 24. This can heat a tent but it can't hold a fire all night. You have to wake up at least two times in the night to feed it.
Because you have the second elevation of your retaining wall, you might find that you could have a second cooking location using the heat that is coming out of the top of the smoke stacks. Either make a support structure for a big pot to sit a few inches above the chimney top and cook soup all day heat water or have it blast against a piece of plate steel and use that as a cooking surface.
additionally with very little extra work, you could run your water heating thermal siphon pipe inside your upper chimney...
This seems like a good little start for my needs. But I really need some help with what to do first in my planning. I'm 61 with some chronic, but not deadly, issues. I have been prepping for about 5 years. BUT, first I prepped in an apt. Now I have a condo like inlaw. So I have a lot more room and storage. My issue is there seems to be SO MUCH TO DO and my mind gets boggled with everything I really need to have on hand. One issue is it is really just me doing all of this. My daughter and her husband basically think I'm nuts. SO I'm not able to do it with my whole family. SO now I'm just trying to save enough of everything for myself and my younger daughter first, and then my older daughter and her family second. I could really use some counsel on what to focus on living in the suburbs without an option to go find something hidden in the woods.
sometimes a big woodstove can be intimidating especially if your new to the whole thing, these are small and reasonable enough to be a good starting point.... also a good way to involve the bigger kids in setting a fire too.... edited because I can't spell...lol
loch ness Well, no. Actually getting a real wood stove is less intimidating. You will need a flew with a damper for sure. A side loading stove is nice. One with an ash pan/drawer. Brick lined in the fire box. You need to keep the fire hot to keep creosote from becoming sticky and building up to fast or you will start a fire in the chimney. I used a stove pipe temp gauge. It's chimney fires that usually burn down houses. This is what I do. You should seek out good information and proceed carefully. Otherwise I recommend not burning at all until you and especially your children know what they are doing. Even/especially with a rinky dink camp stove from China.
I bought a heavy duty park type grill,just in case it cooks great, good idea SP.
Dude I paid 25.00 on Amazon almost two years ago. You know how Amazon is prices change all the time. The tubes can be used for potatoes that you can wrap in foil and put them inside. Also I like your idea of making a list of items you need. A couple of things I thought of was a hand plow and a sweeper that has two rolls of brushes and picks up dirt and then you dump the pan. No electricity needed. I've been buying binoculars and tactical flashlight and solar motion detector lights. Would like to see you do recommendation on binoculars if you haven't already. I'll look Thanks
Good price for sure,nice little stove.
If I may, I've noticed people doing their own stoves or at least stove pipe chimney installations are putting the pipe stacks on upside down. Point is that if you burn wet or green wood, the moisture that will run down the inside of the stack chimney pipe runs into the stove and not down the outside. One may think that the chimney won't seal, but soot build up does it. Think of feeding that moisture back into the pipe. otherwise at each pipe crimped connection leaks resulting in a dangerous combustable creosote type buildup.
Nice practical and portable
I have a small stove similar to that one and would use it to heat a room in the house in the winter if I had to.
Those are neat. For $60, I would had picked one up. I have a nice cast iron wood strove with a cook top, but that thing weights like 80lb, ha. Not something I can move around easily.
E bay has some in the $ 30.00 to $ 40.00 range like those with a carrying bag and the side tubes are bigger. They are good stoves.
There is a water heater that is sold by someone that will hang on the side of those stoves. I can not remember who makes them but I have seen them online. With a little searching you might find them. Yes water can be boiled on top of them, but adding the hanging water tanks would allow for heating water for coffee, tea, hot co co, washing hands or bowl bathing while at the same time cooking.
My wife and I were looking for stoves just like that and somehow got the website that sold the water tanks for them but they did not sell the stoves, so we figured they made them, but did not make the stoves. I think the water tanks were more square or rectangled looking, but they did hang on the sides of that style stove.
+enerZise I have two of the water tanks ordered and they have shipped so hopefully in 2 more days will have them to test them out. I waited till I found them a little cheaper and they where still expensive $39 each so hopefully they work good. I think they are only 2 quarts so not a lot of water but for tea and coffee will work.
I was looking at your video again and I suspect there is a lot of heat radiating from the bottom of those stoves.
There is enough room to put a metal rack or cinder blocks under them to use as a heating stand for keeping food already cooked warm. Sort of using the bottom of the stove as a heat lamp that is.
Sounds like the campchef website, they sell the water heater for $109, but no longer sell the stove. I have the stove and hot water heater. I did several years of research before I purchased, so I believe it was the best stove available for the price when I purchased the Camp Chef Wood Stove.
Very nice.
If you cannot reach high enough to put that #10 can on the elbow stove; perhaps you could drill a small hole _(1/8")_ in the bottom of the outside elbow, for water to seep out?
good stuff. buying this to review and use at deer camp
consider putting a piece of metal in the bottom of the stove which is replaceable if it gets melted.
some fire brick or maybe even dirt.
more expensive stoves may be made with thicker metal all around which would make them stronger, more durable but heavier.
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I love the sunken patio..
very defensive even when cooking..
They make a water tank for them that attaches to the bottom of the chimney on eBay. God bless buddy
Nice. Thanks for the upload. Definitely buying one.
Todd Lockrie thank you for the heads up buddy will definitely take your advice. I'll burn it a first time in the yard then strip it down and re coat it with the high temp spray paint. Thanks again 👍🏻
I would have some back up chimney pipe so you can change them out clean them and change them back ... chimney fires are a real problem if build up catches fire. but otherwise looking forward to the comparison to the more money versions
I would be careful not to get the stove too close to your stucco wall, the heat will cause it to chip!
10 thousand subscribers away from 100 thousand subscribers. Wow !!!!
Oh.. thank you again for your great videos...
Those tubes could be closed at the front with a metal tap & the rear closed with an open & flared top so you can fill it with water, let steam out so it doesn't swell & burst and you will be able to temp the water or see when it's boiling :)
Good deal!
I got one from Amazon at$100 now. Mine has bigger tubes, a grate in the bottom for the wood and the trap door to rake out the ashes. Hoping it will augment my Coleman stove and larger 2 burner propane stove that I use for canning..
Got one for my travel trailer with a conversion kit to put in the trailer for my bug out back up.
Thanks for the video. I have wondered about their quality and the long-term usability. If they are too cheaply made the welding points may not handle a fire that got too hot.
I bought one from home Depot online and I paid a Hundred dollars. I live in the woods doing security night watch for a logging company in Oregon.
very cool------------think its a good idea
I have one of those Korean War tent stoves, new in the box. I have thought of adding another stove to my home for backup so I'll look into it.
Very thorough explaining. Thank you very much. :)
Can you keep a small 10 x 12 building warm that has installation in it warm ? And can you let me know how it done after you had for a while I know that this is a old video . Just interested
I was building rocket stove this weekend. Maybe this stove too
I sure do need one of these. I'm disabled living in a travel trailer and can't afford propane. I have a bad back and during the cold months my back hurts really bad. this heater would sure be nice to have to keep me and my two girls ( Dog's ) warm... can you please give me the name of the stove? I want to get one one when I can afford it. thanks for sharing this with us.
I'm getting ready to put one in my 8x16 cabin soon
How did it go? Am putting one into a 8*12 cabin soon.
Doing a small 12x12 shed soon. just like a litttle heat in the winter for 2 or 3 hours at a time. if i put the stack out the back you think this will be big enough for what i need.
The major factor to the life of the stove is the quality (type / grade) of steel and the thickness of the steel. A 55 gal. drum is made of low grade and thin metal and will burn out quickly when used as a simple burn barrel.
How is the draft? 3 inch automoive pipe enough? Also. fireplace exhaust pipe is stacked with the top pipe fitting into a lower pipe. Just so resin and debris flows down into the fire and not oustside the pipe. I have been studying something like this for a shop heater.
+Christopher Z The draft could be better so you need to keep the vent opened all the way. I am going to do some testing with another piece of pipe maybe longer will help.
+southernprepper1 Thank you..Good night
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Try only using one elbow,every elbow you add decreases draw.
As someone else suggested,look into the Vogelzang barrel stove kits,I've heated a 24x36 ft garage/shop with one for years. All you need is a solid 55 gallon drum,and a bag or so of sand from Lowe's/Home Depot/Wal_mart to line the bottom of the barrel with.
+southernprepper1 Diameter is important for moving volume.
Here in 2022 wondering if this stove is still one you would recommend after having it for 6 years?
I thought of these my self.....maybe a little coal to burn in it too?...put a thick steel plate in it or fire brick......mix of wood/pea coal
instead of elbows use 45s for beter air flow.
Draft is every thing in a wood stove.
Have you ever tryed to cook on a Swedish fire log. I use them all the time while ice fishing.
+y2kxj I have never tried to cook on one but very familiar with them I guess I need to give it a try.
Thanks for the vid! I've been thinking about picking one of these up.
So these seem like nice little stoves, but for your purposes, how are they better than firebrick or concrete block rocketstoves that can be made for under $20. You can make 4 of them for the price you paid for one of these stoves with your inputs. They burn just as hot, if not hotter, and use a fraction of the wood (Understanding that you have an endless supply). Not trying to be argumentative Im just trying to see the real benefit of these. I really like the idea of outdoor kitchens in the summer to keep the house temps at a reasonable level. Thanks again for sharing, Dave.
+Dave Pruitt I like the ability to have the smoke away from the cooks and exhausted higher up. Plus you can use it in a make shift shelter. Plus everything stores in the stove and light weight to carry in a vehicle. I love the concrete block homemade rocketstove they work great also.
great video
You could cook some sausages down the pipes on the top of the stove if you wrapped them in tin foil. :)
+Richard Maunder Yes I thought about put a few hot dogs in the pipe but for sure some tin foil would have to be used. I will try it this week and see.
southernprepper1 Thank you would like to see a cooking video when you do. I would roll them up and leave some of the foil long on the end so you can pull them out of the pipe when cooked should work ?
Wonder if it would be good to line the bottom with some fire brick, if it would fit.
+MotherOfManyHorses Probably would help make I last longer. I thought about a few inches of sand to make it last longer.
+southernprepper1 Will be difficult to clean/rake out the ash. Brick is the way.