And her gameplay looks fun too. Sometimes I don’t want a lot of damage, sometimes I just want something different. I won’t pull for Jade only because I’m saving for Lingsha, who will supposedly be a really powerful sustain for Firefly teams and will come out in 2.5
She's a PF character... just compare with others on that game mode, Theres so much "MoC and AS" in this video... it makes this video and discussion pointless and bad.
I disagree whith this take overall, I think Jade has a really good value but is also pretty much future proof. I feel like meta players have this weird bias where they make it seem like MOC is the most "relevant" endgame mode somehow; even though it gives just as many rewards and MOC is probably the easyest endgame mode of the 3, given how forgiving the 10 cycles system is and how effortlless it is to brute force with a lot of characters. It would benefit any account to have the indisputed best in a specific endgame mode, which is what Jade is for PF, because you're always going to be able to rely on the character to perform and carry even if the devs decides to not bring up ice and fire weaknesses for example. The fact that she takes the spot of a support gives you more flexibility and options to choose from for the other team, and the way that she can work as a hypercarry or can synergize with any aoe dps (Blade, Herta, Himeko, JingYuan, Qingque, Kafka, Sampo, Argenti, Misha...) makes her a character that you can get very creative with (which is more important to a lot of people than raw damage numbers) - which also means that she's going to age like fine wine, kinda like Topaz for single target FuA. IMO jade is a very good pick up for people who can already clear endgame and people who struggle with Pure fiction but not a priority for people who struggle with other endgame modes.
Yet characters like FF and Acheron exist who on the right teams can literally Destroy all 3 modes not just one like Jade who needs E1+ busted supports to be relevant anywhere else. As for your list of characters buffed by her Non are relevant in all 3 modes and the few that are somewhat Won’t use her I.E JY for example he wants the HC team to see his full power not Jade. And let’s not pretend they aren’t going to release a new harmony unit at some point that is going to be AOE focused and when that happens Jade is literally Dead.
@The_CodFish69 So when they release AOE Robin/Ruan Mei, the teams' sub-dps will be powercreeped? I'm not sure that logic lines up, considering the previously established standard of character releases around team archetypes.
As for me, i don't struggle with PF with just using DoT, Follow up, Break and Acheron team so i just don't see value from Jade that can change my account.
@@XenonDante welp if Jade is Mid as a DPS outside of PF that’s alrdy one strike, Now imagine if they release one more Harmony unit that gives multiple buffs including one that scales off of AoE be it the number of opponents or enemies hit. Now say you have JY who’s one of the Few Erudition characters useful outside of PF now would you use Jade on this team or this new Harmony that buffs his Damage more and prb has another support be it SPD, AF, Energy R etc… And there’s the problem with Jade her value right now is already bad enough especially with that banner, now imagine when a dedicated support character eventually comes out for the path then what’s the point of Jade? Is even in PF Acheron going to auto 40K starting next patch with Jai’s release so even in there Jade isn’t needed.
NGL I struggle to get the last star in pf and I max moc and ap , so that's a reason to pull her, some of my other reasons are because i am a proud Blade main, I like her kit , she is flexible and can be used in 2 of endgame content although her moc performance isn't the best she is still fairly decent and she is amazing in pf and I still don't know why people think moc is the best way to test characters especially when moc always has one buff that only the future character's archetype can take advantage of it will in ap and pf , there are other buffs that help characters that don't follow that archetype , making it relatively easier with our stable pf cast like herta , hemiko , jingyuan , clara, arginti and jade
Na ya got to make the hard choices like me to skip every one so you could go I With 300 pulls for FF and walked away with E2S1 and currently at 100+ pulls already EZ…
No most players pulled Ruan Mei and FF because they didn't care about Jade. It's such a cope response "they're out of jades". It's the Yoimiya syndrome..."Yoimiya always runs against better characters"....well if Yoimiya were better she'd be the better character, wouldn't she?
Im planning to get her on her rerun since I need more characters for pure fiction, in the meanwhile i am saving for an eventual rerun of sparkle or aventurine
I've been playing for 1 year & still no Himeko (I picked Bronya for selector). I'm just glad that I can guarantee an Erudition character to have an easier time with Pure Fiction. I'd like to see a character that can summon a dummy that you can attack to deal damage to the enemy. This way Erudition character will have a bit of an easier time (idk how it would work against enemies with 5 targets though, like Sunday Bossfight)
I want an erudition follow up unit in every element. Jade is another for my collection and enables me to run double elemental teams with Robin/Ruan Mei and Herta, Clara, Jing Yuan or Himeko.
Bc of jade I finally fully starred pure fiction. I don’t need more units for MOC, I got Acheron and FUA team and super break team, which is sufficient. TLDR, look at ur account, if u need her get her (even if ur not taking her outside pure fiction) then get her.
Seems like a Skill issue with the FF and Acheron team for example I 60K both this and last PF so what’s the point of Jade? Unless you just really like her character her Kit is Mid AF.
@@m1st233 then if your new save for better Supports instead of wasting pulls on a character that is locked just to PF especially when units like Himeko and Herta exist for PF alrdy.
She is the estranged sister of Herta. Their jealousy for each other is so visible when they are eagerly trying to do one better over each other... and they just won't stop. It's fun to see them in PF. The rest of the teammates are like... "There they go again, call me when they're done, gonna find some shades to nap for awhile..."
I full dove into the follow ups. Their kits and designs have just been more attractive to me so I don't have power house units like Blade, JingLiu, DHIL, BS, Acheron or Firefly. I also don't have SW, Sparkle or Seele so I don't have much vs Quantum. Because of this she does add value to my account and I have enjoyed using her so far. She lived up to her character though, full 90 pity only to lose 50/50 then made me deep into pity again for her guarantee. After a day of reflection she did give me her LC at 4.
I can struggle to get that final star in PF and I like Jade's vibe. However, the 4 star line-up just killed any desire to pull for her. If I lost 50/50 it would feel like a complete waste to get cons on characters I never use. I'll keep saving and keep an eye on the upcoming physical and fire characters. May skip them too. It feels refreshing to be in a position with little fomo and already having 3 functional teams (with a mostly functional 4th, but janky). I need Kafka (likely she won't rerun until next year though) but that's about it. I'm going dragon mode and hoarding them gems 🤣
I'm skipping Jade because I don't have a lot of stellar jades, I have all the eidolons for the 4 stars from the current banner, I don't feeling like pulling a character just for Pure Fiction, and I'm more curious about the new Xianzhou characters.
I don't care about min maxing - sure I dolphin my Follow uppers to E1 S1 but thanks to her, I'm not safe to wait for Screwllum and Rappa and just optimise my characters relics in the meantime. She honestly brought my desire to play Jingliu back (I hated Jingliu), she goes well with Blade, and Now I'm even aspiring to farm 4 piece eagle for Crit hyper speed Pela. Jade is a bliss, whatever you say, she's HSR's Yinlin, and I love sub Dps's.
I skipped Firefly because I love FUA and figured Jade would be better for my account. While I don't have Jade yet, I'm feeling some regret for missing out of Firefly; I had my mind set up too early I suppose, and missed the hype/discussion about Firefly being bonkers. I also like FF's design more, so I maybe shoulda gone with her. While Jade would likely be able to propel me into easy PF clears, I really wonder if I should just hold onto my rolls for now. I do have a lot of team-options for her (Blade, JY, Himeko, Herta, Clara) so she would likely still be pretty good, but I dunno. I also keep missing out on the big damage characters, so maybe my judgement isn't the greatest on it anyway. Regarding Jade's damage, I kinda disagree. She isn't supposed to be one of those "big huge DPS" characters. In the Trial she was hitting ~80-100k quite frequently for me; I'd be plenty happy with that from a sub-dps/support hybrid character.
She's worth it for me, because if I built my Herta (or Himeko), supports and did the proper setup at the start of the battle, I can just sit back, relax, and let the auto battle do the work.
Jade feels like a subdps that covers a really good element. However I really wished she had a elemental implant like other recent characters to make her a lot better. Give implant = More breaks = More Himeko talent procs.
I only started using Himeko but I just put her on a sustainless FF team. I don't even know how people use her anywhere else. It takes way too long to break characters on a normal non super break team.
welp i skip her because i got and use herta+Himeko setup so i see no use of her and i like to use a sustain + Buff/Debuff like Ruan Mei or Pela because those can be used in multiple teams and game mode lot more future proof .___. *hmpf hmpf* QQ for the WIN!
I want her so bad But my Acheron need the Foxboi and then FF most likely wants the new Abundance lady aswell so I can’t not get both because I’m too invested in said teams to skip them…
I think if I didn't have Argenti or Himeko, or if I struggled with Pure Fiction, then I'd want to pull her more. But I don't. I do think her gameplay is fun. I love FuA characters. I think she'd be interesting to use together with Blade. And it might be nice to have a true quantum AoE character (Qingque might be erudition but of course she feels more like destruction in disguise). But none of those things feel like they'll actually provide very high of impact to my account, which is really too bad. I'll probably try to grab her during a rerun if possible. I'm more interested in Jiaoqiu (Pela is getting to be one of those fought over characters for me). There's also rumors that Black Swan might rerun. I have her, but I'd like to pick up her LC for her if I can since I get so much use out of her and it would be a nice performance bump.
I wouldn't say I was hyped for her, but I was at 65 pity and she is a great looking waifu, so I pulled her. I don't regret it and don't really care if I barely ever use her. She will be a nice addition for Pure Fiction runs, and either way it's still fun to just try out new and interesting teams no matter how meta they are. I'll get use out of her over time and have fun doing it. Plus I have absolutely no interest in the next patch characters, so she is more valuable to me just due to liking her design more than the next 2 limited units.
While Jade is plenty strong in pure fiction, outside of that she is just ok? I mean erudition units have it kind of rough already outside of Pure Fiction and with QQ out there kind hard to justify getting Jade. Shes still fun to play tho, but unless you really like the character yeah Id say save the pulls
Jade fills the exact same niche as Blade: an SP-positive DPS character that only works well in dual DPS teams Unless the devs release a Harmony version of DHIL (the more SP you use the stronger the buff), Jade and Blade will remain forever mid. With that said, even though I skipped Blade because I didn't need the niche he fulfilled, I still pulled for Jade because GAAAAWD DAAAAMN.
E1S1 completely fixes Topaz's AOE situation. And just run Robin and either Aventurine or sparkle as the 4th slot. FOLLOW-UP SUPREMACY REIGNS SUPREMELY!!! 😈
She is in a similar situation with Kafka, the people that want her are very vocal about wanting to pull her for "waifu material" over meta but when you actually look at the banner sales, they don't do all that well. Most of em are the loud minority. Kafka is at least the best DOT enabler in the game though.
Jade is fine even at E0. After watching a RUclipsr 0 cycle MoC with E0 Jade, I will no longer be listening to folks saying she can’t clear all content. I almost missed out on this girl. I also can’t wait for them to put more characters that work with her which the will. Same thing they did to topaz. This game is all about what supports you have and relics. Supports are so broken that any characters can beat content.
not worth pulling tbf... a character only good for one gamemode is kinda mid considering characters like ff and acheron exists. also, it's better to just pull for harmony characters such as sparkle, robin, rm, etc. since they can be used not just in pure fiction but literally everywhere and they will perform better than a sub dps. like, would you rather pull jade rather than ruan mei or firefly? you can use rm and firefly in all gamemodes and jade needs e1. for me, nahh. (i didn't even pull for ff or jade, just ruan mei since she already does jade's job but better in)
I skipped out on Ruan Mei entirely and getting a lc and e1 for Firefly just so i have a chance of getting e6s1 Jade. I love her. Also I do have e6s1 Acheron- and Jade is still doing better with things Acheron does not.
I pulled for her knowing full well she was a Pure Fiction only character. I have zero regrets. She’s a top tier waifu. We’ll be smiling when they release level 5 of Pure Fiction while you all struggle because you skipped her.
I literally finish pure fiction with only 1 turn because of her. and she's so pretty already a win for me. I pull women cause I like women that's all that matters
Himeko is great in moc, what the hell are you saying?! Her superbreak team is even one of the most popular teams for the 2nd side of the current moc. About Jade tho, if you want her to be viable in moc, that's what her e1 is for. Now don't get me wrong, even as someone who did go for her e1, it really sucks that they had to lock her viability outside of pf behind an eidolon while every other 5* erudition can deal good damage even outside of pf, but that's the sad truth we have to live with.
Argenti is NOT the reason people arent pulling, i can assure you 😂. Its mainly how she treated Aventurine, Firefly just released, and now Yungli is next.
Where the hell has Tingyun been? Haven't seen her on a banner in ages. It's frustrating to see garbage 4-stars on the banner which provides no incentive to pull. If there was a 4-star on the banner I wanted and had low pity, I would do like 3-4 multipulls just to get the 4-stars.
sadge - what my take is that banner sales overexaggerate the variance of whether people are pulling / actually playing because maybe the char is a solid pickup at E0 with 4 star weapons to round out overall account strength but that can be filled by regular income of free jades and doesn't justify going all out with credit card huge sales usually mean a confluence of meta / lore / hype / waifu / husbando and not having a combo punch doesn't mean it's not a good character or not relevant meta wise case in point: Fu Xuan. She was extremely (and is still pretty good) at sustain slot but her sales were lacklustre because in the first banner E0 was fine and on rerun there were better options such as Aventurine.
Already placed a comment on this video about pulling her earlier, but wanted to add another message. If you like a character, they are worth pulling. It doesn't matter if they are meta or not. People still clear a lot of the endgame content still using standard units and 4 stars, it really doesn't matter if a new character is meta or not. So long as they are fun to you or you like them as a character, they are worth pulling, period. Personally I like when new characters drop and aren't overly powerful, not every new unit needs to be the strongest character ever. Just have fun with the game and stop worrying about meta in a PVE and story focused game that isn't even that difficult in the first place
Exactly. I noticed HSR releases usually stronger character in phase 1 and weaker in phase 2. Phase 1 characters usually get dedicated artifact/ornament sets, which P2 characters like Jade don't get that benefit. This was true for Jade/Boothil/Dr.Ratio/Argenti/Topaz/Adventurine(vs Acheron). Probably Sparkle is exception on same power level as Black Swan. That's actually fine. By not having all characters being overpowered F2P/low spenders have easier time skipping character and just getting what they need/like. Jade can be good choice for people missing Himeko and Argenti / having god tier farmed quantum sets.
@JayDamaso78 While that's certainly valid, I still think my opinion had merit too. Especially since value and performance can be subjective to each person depending on their account and preferred play styles. If you like a character enough to pull them, you can build them and make them effective regardless of how meta they normally would be. Outright telling people not to pull on a banner isn't a great take, maybe that unit was the exact thing a player needed to complete a team comp they are working on. Or maybe the story or design of the character ends up being their favorite. Too many reasons exist that make every single banner worthwhile to people for different reasons. To completely say a unit has no merit because they aren't the top of the meta is not valid. You can state why you wouldn't pull or where you think they place on a tier list, but telling people a unit has no value to pull is a subjective take being worded in an objective format and makes it invalidated.
@chrisgodfrey1880 your opinion certainly does have merit, but in my experience with gacha thr majority of players tend to go looking for exclusively fun units only after they've established their account as able to full clear everything in the endgame.
It is stupid to pull bad character because you like it's design, because you will eventually bench them unable to be happy of their performance. Why do you pull a character if you like it. Pulling gives you kit, enjoy the character in story an images, nothing stops admiring design without spending jades.
Sees title, comes to comment without watching [yet] AYO I PULLED HER E1 WTF YOU MEAN. gonna watch the video now and realize it's just because the banner uprates are trash, and some other random non-meta 0-cycling bs. Aint no one gonna tell me they don't want a REASON or EXCUSE to pull her though
E6 Jade hits hard and often for me. She will do insane damage on a quantum team with Silver Wolf to add Q-weakness. Seele can go often stacking fast while Fu Xuan tanks. But really I pulled for her because I want more sexy designs like that.
she was worth it for me who got her in 3 pulls lol now its all about skipping 2.4 and wait for 2.5 linghsa and after save everything for my 4 tailed fox tingyun!
JQ isn't even an upgrade to Pela. He is a sidegrade for E0 Acheron teams, and bad on any Kafka team. He even has worse multipliers than Gwen. And Yunli is just Clara 2.0. She's a sidegrade and the real upgrade is her LC. If you have a built Clara, you profit far more simply from pulling the cracked LC. The upcoming characters are intentionally mediocre (just like Jade) because Mihoyo wants to pump ZZZ initial sales.
Jade for me is in really strange spot. She fights for a place in a FUA team where you have sustain + Robin + 2 FUA DPS. In single target Topaz+Ratio are best, in AOE Himeko+Herta are great. Then we have QQ and robot girl for quantum AOE, who works pretty well.
The whole game is easy. Current Moc is entirely laughable, one minute in and out, here's your 800 jades. Only high levels of SU are somewhat hard and because of blessing rng at that. The point is to have fun. And how you get to it is entirely up to you, be it from one shoting something or from a beautiful follow up sequence. P. S. "One character fits all" is shit game design to begin with, the problem isn't in a specialized character, the problem is overpowered generalist characters. We strictly don't NEED any more characters than Acheron + Firefly and 6 supports for them, as 2 teams they can clear every mod for 800 easily. And it's bad.
I disagree with you on the changes to her kit, bcs I genuinely love everything about her. The thing with Jade is that it alleviates a certain problems I had with Pure fiction
Its such a shame, like for pure fiction. Of all the game modes, they make a character specifically for the objectively EASIEST game mode. E0S0 jade is defintely a "characters I regret" pick imo.
I mean. Acheron sucks ass in this PF. It's not even good. Jade is a cool character, I would like to have her on my account but her issue is... She is right after Ruan Mei and Firefly. And we just don't have "jades" tadam tsss. Anyway. She is only PF character and no one really cares about PF. Especially now when it's only 1 every 6 weeks. If we would not 12* PF NO ONE cares. Losing 60 jades is nothing. If you don't have Clara, Argenti, Boothill... Yunli is just a way better choice.
@@furuderika8093 Able to clear doesn't mean good. I did it too but 2nd side hard carried 1st side. Acheron was mid af in compare to 2nd team. Herta + Himeko as always insane in PF.
@@kuruzaru Able to clear does mean good though Acheron consistently 30-40k PF buffed or not since her release. This is before Jiaoqiu even come out which will drastically improve her dmg in PF.
@@kuruzaruBurh mine averages around 35K+ what do you mean she’s Mid in PF? And this is ignoring the Fact that Jai is on the Way that’ll make her get 40K on Auto a Joke…
@@nikonFB1988 Clara, Seele, QQ, DHIL, Kafka, Ratio, Argenti, Herta, Topaz and Himeko aged well they have been consistently clearing content easily and have lots more supports to choose from now.
@@nikonFB1988 she is a hybrid support sub dps. She buffs your main while still doing good dmg herself. If you have robin ruan mei and xueyi you will see how strong she is. To answer your question tho the supportive side of her is why she will age well when a new super dps drops if they lack speed or if they combo with follow ups or if they need a life drain she will age well cause she will work with them.
@@lanij.k9932 you got a point there. Xueyi with jade + robin Blade with jade. PF clears Future prospects Just Good enough in fua comp She does have her value. I don't think she is bad, just her banner is bad. I would have pulled her but her banner is just trash so I am skipping.
@@soulfulhuman8724 to not pull on a banner cause the 4 stars are shit is hilarious. You saw Natasha and said naw I’m good. I get it but I mean I feel if it’s a character that I want I’ll get them regardless of the banner. Whatever 4 stars I get I just appreciate the dupes. Also the team is xueyi jade robin and Ruan mei. That comp against the bug or deer is crazy fun just saying.
first :3
Pulling for a character because they’re powerful ❌
Pulling for a character because they are hot ✅
you beat me there LMAO
@@REHOO LOL
And her gameplay looks fun too. Sometimes I don’t want a lot of damage, sometimes I just want something different.
I won’t pull for Jade only because I’m saving for Lingsha, who will supposedly be a really powerful sustain for Firefly teams and will come out in 2.5
All for the Mommies.
Archeron, FF, Jingliu, Topass, RM, Sparkle, BS and Kafka Why not be Both…
She's a PF character... just compare with others on that game mode, Theres so much "MoC and AS" in this video... it makes this video and discussion pointless and bad.
Hot take, I skipped Firefly for Jade
Fair take, i got both xd.
Same,got both was the only real choice let’s be honest ;‘]
I lost my 50/50 for fire fly and I got jade brooo
Same.
Samw
I disagree whith this take overall, I think Jade has a really good value but is also pretty much future proof. I feel like meta players have this weird bias where they make it seem like MOC is the most "relevant" endgame mode somehow; even though it gives just as many rewards and MOC is probably the easyest endgame mode of the 3, given how forgiving the 10 cycles system is and how effortlless it is to brute force with a lot of characters.
It would benefit any account to have the indisputed best in a specific endgame mode, which is what Jade is for PF, because you're always going to be able to rely on the character to perform and carry even if the devs decides to not bring up ice and fire weaknesses for example.
The fact that she takes the spot of a support gives you more flexibility and options to choose from for the other team, and the way that she can work as a hypercarry or can synergize with any aoe dps (Blade, Herta, Himeko, JingYuan, Qingque, Kafka, Sampo, Argenti, Misha...) makes her a character that you can get very creative with (which is more important to a lot of people than raw damage numbers) - which also means that she's going to age like fine wine, kinda like Topaz for single target FuA.
IMO jade is a very good pick up for people who can already clear endgame and people who struggle with Pure fiction but not a priority for people who struggle with other endgame modes.
Yet characters like FF and Acheron exist who on the right teams can literally Destroy all 3 modes not just one like Jade who needs E1+ busted supports to be relevant anywhere else.
As for your list of characters buffed by her Non are relevant in all 3 modes and the few that are somewhat Won’t use her I.E JY for example he wants the HC team to see his full power not Jade.
And let’s not pretend they aren’t going to release a new harmony unit at some point that is going to be AOE focused and when that happens Jade is literally Dead.
@The_CodFish69 So when they release AOE Robin/Ruan Mei, the teams' sub-dps will be powercreeped? I'm not sure that logic lines up, considering the previously established standard of character releases around team archetypes.
As for me, i don't struggle with PF with just using DoT, Follow up, Break and Acheron team so i just don't see value from Jade that can change my account.
@@XenonDante welp if Jade is Mid as a DPS outside of PF that’s alrdy one strike,
Now imagine if they release one more Harmony unit that gives multiple buffs including one that scales off of AoE be it the number of opponents or enemies hit.
Now say you have JY who’s one of the Few Erudition characters useful outside of PF now would you use Jade on this team or this new Harmony that buffs his Damage more and prb has another support be it SPD, AF, Energy R etc…
And there’s the problem with Jade her value right now is already bad enough especially with that banner, now imagine when a dedicated support character eventually comes out for the path then what’s the point of Jade?
Is even in PF Acheron going to auto 40K starting next patch with Jai’s release so even in there Jade isn’t needed.
NGL I struggle to get the last star in pf and I max moc and ap , so that's a reason to pull her, some of my other reasons are because i am a proud Blade main, I like her kit , she is flexible and can be used in 2 of endgame content although her moc performance isn't the best she is still fairly decent and she is amazing in pf and I still don't know why people think moc is the best way to test characters especially when moc always has one buff that only the future character's archetype can take advantage of it will in ap and pf , there are other buffs that help characters that don't follow that archetype , making it relatively easier with our stable pf cast like herta , hemiko , jingyuan , clara, arginti and jade
I love Jade, mainly because I am a follow-up attack enjoyer 😂
based follow up user
You are me when I used to like YoGiOh Gemini cards.
BROOO FRRR I LOVE FOLLOW UP ATTACK CHARACTERS
same
@@Thunder12o994 She is helping me in pure faction BROOO
We just had Firefly, and Ruan Mei. Most probably dont have enough pulls.
Na ya got to make the hard choices like me to skip every one so you could go I With 300 pulls for FF and walked away with E2S1 and currently at 100+ pulls already EZ…
No most players pulled Ruan Mei and FF because they didn't care about Jade. It's such a cope response "they're out of jades". It's the Yoimiya syndrome..."Yoimiya always runs against better characters"....well if Yoimiya were better she'd be the better character, wouldn't she?
Pulled for her, no regrets.
oh you will soon LMAO
@@rgd9945 wdym
She’s so so fun, no regrets either.
Pulled Jade E0S0 and she immediately got me 3 stars in PF4 while half-built, worth it.
@@ApolloS1nd powercreep rail
Im planning to get her on her rerun since I need more characters for pure fiction, in the meanwhile i am saving for an eventual rerun of sparkle or aventurine
I don’t have topaz so she fits for my follow up teams
I pulled E1 Jade and i dont regret it i love her
I've been playing for 1 year & still no Himeko (I picked Bronya for selector). I'm just glad that I can guarantee an Erudition character to have an easier time with Pure Fiction.
I'd like to see a character that can summon a dummy that you can attack to deal damage to the enemy. This way Erudition character will have a bit of an easier time (idk how it would work against enemies with 5 targets though, like Sunday Bossfight)
I want an erudition follow up unit in every element. Jade is another for my collection and enables me to run double elemental teams with Robin/Ruan Mei and Herta, Clara, Jing Yuan or Himeko.
Bc of jade I finally fully starred pure fiction.
I don’t need more units for MOC, I got Acheron and FUA team and super break team, which is sufficient.
TLDR, look at ur account, if u need her get her (even if ur not taking her outside pure fiction) then get her.
This pf is made to buff her so ofc it's ez to full star it with her... nothing new
Seems like a Skill issue with the FF and Acheron team for example I 60K both this and last PF so what’s the point of Jade?
Unless you just really like her character her Kit is Mid AF.
@@Jin-rq6rj regardless of the pf of this patch, I now have an easier time clearing pf in general
@@The_CodFish69 or maybe I’m relatively new and just finished my moc teams
@@m1st233 then if your new save for better Supports instead of wasting pulls on a character that is locked just to PF especially when units like Himeko and Herta exist for PF alrdy.
She is the estranged sister of Herta. Their jealousy for each other is so visible when they are eagerly trying to do one better over each other... and they just won't stop. It's fun to see them in PF. The rest of the teammates are like... "There they go again, call me when they're done, gonna find some shades to nap for awhile..."
I full dove into the follow ups. Their kits and designs have just been more attractive to me so I don't have power house units like Blade, JingLiu, DHIL, BS, Acheron or Firefly. I also don't have SW, Sparkle or Seele so I don't have much vs Quantum. Because of this she does add value to my account and I have enjoyed using her so far. She lived up to her character though, full 90 pity only to lose 50/50 then made me deep into pity again for her guarantee. After a day of reflection she did give me her LC at 4.
Nah bro, don't talk about my wife like that
my bad homie LMAO
Pulling for jade for my blade 😅.
I'm sure in the future we'd have a lot of characters that deals with the hp reduction meta
She practically revived a lot of follow up attack units like herta and if you build her right she shreds everything imo
I can struggle to get that final star in PF and I like Jade's vibe. However, the 4 star line-up just killed any desire to pull for her. If I lost 50/50 it would feel like a complete waste to get cons on characters I never use. I'll keep saving and keep an eye on the upcoming physical and fire characters. May skip them too. It feels refreshing to be in a position with little fomo and already having 3 functional teams (with a mostly functional 4th, but janky). I need Kafka (likely she won't rerun until next year though) but that's about it. I'm going dragon mode and hoarding them gems 🤣
I'm skipping Jade because I don't have a lot of stellar jades, I have all the eidolons for the 4 stars from the current banner, I don't feeling like pulling a character just for Pure Fiction, and I'm more curious about the new Xianzhou characters.
I wanna get jade but I barely play HSR
too relatable
@@MercuryCeres 😭
jade is acutally really fun to use
I mean YunLi is next. Girl with a big sword, what more can you say
I don't care about min maxing - sure I dolphin my Follow uppers to E1 S1 but thanks to her, I'm not safe to wait for Screwllum and Rappa and just optimise my characters relics in the meantime. She honestly brought my desire to play Jingliu back (I hated Jingliu), she goes well with Blade, and Now I'm even aspiring to farm 4 piece eagle for Crit hyper speed Pela.
Jade is a bliss, whatever you say, she's HSR's Yinlin, and I love sub Dps's.
I love Jade and am glad I pulled her.
Blade + bronya e2 + Yunli LC u gona be super
I skipped Firefly because I love FUA and figured Jade would be better for my account. While I don't have Jade yet, I'm feeling some regret for missing out of Firefly; I had my mind set up too early I suppose, and missed the hype/discussion about Firefly being bonkers. I also like FF's design more, so I maybe shoulda gone with her.
While Jade would likely be able to propel me into easy PF clears, I really wonder if I should just hold onto my rolls for now. I do have a lot of team-options for her (Blade, JY, Himeko, Herta, Clara) so she would likely still be pretty good, but I dunno. I also keep missing out on the big damage characters, so maybe my judgement isn't the greatest on it anyway.
Regarding Jade's damage, I kinda disagree. She isn't supposed to be one of those "big huge DPS" characters. In the Trial she was hitting ~80-100k quite frequently for me; I'd be plenty happy with that from a sub-dps/support hybrid character.
After jioaqiu changes . Getting jade is 100x better 😂. Boi nerfed into oblivion
Bro turned into a NPC fr fr 😂😂
hes desain and gameplay so fun to be honest,hope she get her best team and make her playable in other mode
Me while happy with my Jade E0S1
She's worth it for me, because if I built my Herta (or Himeko), supports and did the proper setup at the start of the battle, I can just sit back, relax, and let the auto battle do the work.
Jade feels like a subdps that covers a really good element. However I really wished she had a elemental implant like other recent characters to make her a lot better. Give implant = More breaks = More Himeko talent procs.
I only started using Himeko but I just put her on a sustainless FF team. I don't even know how people use her anywhere else. It takes way too long to break characters on a normal non super break team.
welp i skip her because i got and use herta+Himeko setup so i see no use of her and i like to use a sustain + Buff/Debuff like Ruan Mei or Pela because those can be used in multiple teams and game mode lot more future proof .___. *hmpf hmpf* QQ for the WIN!
Even though i need more follow-up support. I'm skipping her for Feixiao.
brother in arms. Don't have a single 5* FuA units to my name, but why would I need one when Feixiao is singing her siren call.
I want her so bad But my Acheron need the Foxboi and then FF most likely wants the new Abundance lady aswell so I can’t not get both because I’m too invested in said teams to skip them…
@The_CodFish69 New Abundance lady? I've been so wrapped up about Feixiao, I haven't looked into the other units.
@@gachamanmuse yup the other most likely 2.5 character is a Abundance Break healer so just imagine a limited version
Of Gallagher.
@@The_CodFish69 foxboi is not worth my guy. hes worst than e6 guinafen 😭😭😭
I think if I didn't have Argenti or Himeko, or if I struggled with Pure Fiction, then I'd want to pull her more. But I don't.
I do think her gameplay is fun. I love FuA characters. I think she'd be interesting to use together with Blade. And it might be nice to have a true quantum AoE character (Qingque might be erudition but of course she feels more like destruction in disguise). But none of those things feel like they'll actually provide very high of impact to my account, which is really too bad. I'll probably try to grab her during a rerun if possible.
I'm more interested in Jiaoqiu (Pela is getting to be one of those fought over characters for me). There's also rumors that Black Swan might rerun. I have her, but I'd like to pick up her LC for her if I can since I get so much use out of her and it would be a nice performance bump.
I wouldn't say I was hyped for her, but I was at 65 pity and she is a great looking waifu, so I pulled her. I don't regret it and don't really care if I barely ever use her. She will be a nice addition for Pure Fiction runs, and either way it's still fun to just try out new and interesting teams no matter how meta they are. I'll get use out of her over time and have fun doing it. Plus I have absolutely no interest in the next patch characters, so she is more valuable to me just due to liking her design more than the next 2 limited units.
PF can be cleared with currently available character's Jade is not mandatory to clear PF. Hence, she is only for mommy lovers...
While Jade is plenty strong in pure fiction, outside of that she is just ok? I mean erudition units have it kind of rough already outside of Pure Fiction and with QQ out there kind hard to justify getting Jade. Shes still fun to play tho, but unless you really like the character yeah Id say save the pulls
YUNLI NATIONNN
@@REHOO Oh yeah, Yunli is absolute hype I agree
Nah she’s a good quantum weak cover too, pair her up with xueyi and Ruan and your good to go
Jade is gonna get better overtime
only in PF. Since her best in slot synergizers is erudition follow up units.
Jade fills the exact same niche as Blade: an SP-positive DPS character that only works well in dual DPS teams
Unless the devs release a Harmony version of DHIL (the more SP you use the stronger the buff), Jade and Blade will remain forever mid.
With that said, even though I skipped Blade because I didn't need the niche he fulfilled, I still pulled for Jade because GAAAAWD DAAAAMN.
They gotta start making the banners better for sure. The main character jade is fine but no other incentive to pull.
I have every four star E6 except Lynx. :/ So every banner is pretty sad for me.
@@makidotexe8467 dang sorry to hear that. Ya you need a new 4 star lol
I needed her for pf but lost the 50/50
I first got firefly and got jade by fluke😂😂(ny luck reached till the heavens
I want Jade 😢
I GOT FIREDLY AND JADE OMGG😭😭😭😭😭
Even if you dont full star pure fiction it aint worth it to spend on a new character
E1S1 completely fixes Topaz's AOE situation. And just run Robin and either Aventurine or sparkle as the 4th slot.
FOLLOW-UP SUPREMACY REIGNS SUPREMELY!!! 😈
Pair Jade with Xueyi against Swarm. You're welcome.
She is in a similar situation with Kafka, the people that want her are very vocal about wanting to pull her for "waifu material" over meta but when you actually look at the banner sales, they don't do all that well. Most of em are the loud minority. Kafka is at least the best DOT enabler in the game though.
No one should ever rate up natasha in a banner.
Asta is good but god damn, natasha 🤮 and serval is just ok
Jade is fine even at E0. After watching a RUclipsr 0 cycle MoC with E0 Jade, I will no longer be listening to folks saying she can’t clear all content. I almost missed out on this girl. I also can’t wait for them to put more characters that work with her which the will. Same thing they did to topaz.
This game is all about what supports you have and relics. Supports are so broken that any characters can beat content.
All my money I mean my pulls went to the first descendant/none went to zzz it’s just not my jam
Ended fireflop
more like ended jades banner that no one in their right mind pulled for 😹😹😹 also jades eyes are so far from each other, ugly ass character
Only the second time I've skipped a character since I started in 1.4
Plus 30 speed on a skill is underrated 💯💯
not worth pulling tbf... a character only good for one gamemode is kinda mid considering characters like ff and acheron exists. also, it's better to just pull for harmony characters such as sparkle, robin, rm, etc. since they can be used not just in pure fiction but literally everywhere and they will perform better than a sub dps. like, would you rather pull jade rather than ruan mei or firefly? you can use rm and firefly in all gamemodes and jade needs e1. for me, nahh. (i didn't even pull for ff or jade, just ruan mei since she already does jade's job but better in)
F the haters i got her E2 and her lightcone. i use her with Clara
I skipped out on Ruan Mei entirely and getting a lc and e1 for Firefly just so i have a chance of getting e6s1 Jade. I love her.
Also I do have e6s1 Acheron- and Jade is still doing better with things Acheron does not.
When Jao come their u will see acheron power not now that time Jade will be trash sorry friend.
what a waste of money man
@@ibnalislam5141 sorry friend, any character can be good if you know how to use them :)
@@rgd9945 at least I'm enjoying myself :)
What’s that Acheron build? lol.
I pulled for her knowing full well she was a Pure Fiction only character. I have zero regrets. She’s a top tier waifu. We’ll be smiling when they release level 5 of Pure Fiction while you all struggle because you skipped her.
Or you can vertical invest Acheron and Firefly to E2 and never need a PF unit 🗿
@@PartherB8you when your e2 dps gets powercrept:
agree
Skipped hard because I don’t need her.
i think every follow up eruditon from now on will buff jade so she has future value
Still pulled lmao
I literally finish pure fiction with only 1 turn because of her. and she's so pretty already a win for me. I pull women cause I like women that's all that matters
Himeko is great in moc, what the hell are you saying?! Her superbreak team is even one of the most popular teams for the 2nd side of the current moc.
About Jade tho, if you want her to be viable in moc, that's what her e1 is for. Now don't get me wrong, even as someone who did go for her e1, it really sucks that they had to lock her viability outside of pf behind an eidolon while every other 5* erudition can deal good damage even outside of pf, but that's the sad truth we have to live with.
Argenti is NOT the reason people arent pulling, i can assure you 😂. Its mainly how she treated Aventurine, Firefly just released, and now Yungli is next.
Where the hell has Tingyun been? Haven't seen her on a banner in ages. It's frustrating to see garbage 4-stars on the banner which provides no incentive to pull. If there was a 4-star on the banner I wanted and had low pity, I would do like 3-4 multipulls just to get the 4-stars.
She'll probably be on the Yunli banner given the synergy she has with her
Welp you might be seeing her soon with a new look….
She'll be promoted, yeah, on a banner.
Btw the only reason why
Himiko is meta is bc of jade like jade made himiko look like the badass of the banner but she only is if you have jade😂
She got Dehya'd
Unlike dehya, at least she has a purpose somewhere
@@RePollsterfor now and just in one mode tho.
sadge - what my take is that banner sales overexaggerate the variance of whether people are pulling / actually playing because maybe the char is a solid pickup at E0 with 4 star weapons to round out overall account strength but that can be filled by regular income of free jades and doesn't justify going all out with credit card
huge sales usually mean a confluence of meta / lore / hype / waifu / husbando and not having a combo punch doesn't mean it's not a good character or not relevant meta wise
case in point: Fu Xuan. She was extremely (and is still pretty good) at sustain slot but her sales were lacklustre because in the first banner E0 was fine and on rerun there were better options such as Aventurine.
Already placed a comment on this video about pulling her earlier, but wanted to add another message. If you like a character, they are worth pulling. It doesn't matter if they are meta or not. People still clear a lot of the endgame content still using standard units and 4 stars, it really doesn't matter if a new character is meta or not. So long as they are fun to you or you like them as a character, they are worth pulling, period. Personally I like when new characters drop and aren't overly powerful, not every new unit needs to be the strongest character ever. Just have fun with the game and stop worrying about meta in a PVE and story focused game that isn't even that difficult in the first place
Exactly. I noticed HSR releases usually stronger character in phase 1 and weaker in phase 2. Phase 1 characters usually get dedicated artifact/ornament sets, which P2 characters like Jade don't get that benefit.
This was true for Jade/Boothil/Dr.Ratio/Argenti/Topaz/Adventurine(vs Acheron). Probably Sparkle is exception on same power level as Black Swan.
That's actually fine. By not having all characters being overpowered F2P/low spenders have easier time skipping character and just getting what they need/like.
Jade can be good choice for people missing Himeko and Argenti / having god tier farmed quantum sets.
People who watch these videos generally do care about performance. Most people care about performance and value.
@JayDamaso78 While that's certainly valid, I still think my opinion had merit too. Especially since value and performance can be subjective to each person depending on their account and preferred play styles. If you like a character enough to pull them, you can build them and make them effective regardless of how meta they normally would be. Outright telling people not to pull on a banner isn't a great take, maybe that unit was the exact thing a player needed to complete a team comp they are working on. Or maybe the story or design of the character ends up being their favorite. Too many reasons exist that make every single banner worthwhile to people for different reasons. To completely say a unit has no merit because they aren't the top of the meta is not valid. You can state why you wouldn't pull or where you think they place on a tier list, but telling people a unit has no value to pull is a subjective take being worded in an objective format and makes it invalidated.
@chrisgodfrey1880 your opinion certainly does have merit, but in my experience with gacha thr majority of players tend to go looking for exclusively fun units only after they've established their account as able to full clear everything in the endgame.
It is stupid to pull bad character because you like it's design, because you will eventually bench them unable to be happy of their performance. Why do you pull a character if you like it. Pulling gives you kit, enjoy the character in story an images, nothing stops admiring design without spending jades.
Sees title, comes to comment without watching [yet]
AYO I PULLED HER E1 WTF YOU MEAN.
gonna watch the video now and realize it's just because the banner uprates are trash, and some other random non-meta 0-cycling bs. Aint no one gonna tell me they don't want a REASON or EXCUSE to pull her though
E6 Jade hits hard and often for me.
She will do insane damage on a quantum team with Silver Wolf to add Q-weakness. Seele can go often stacking fast while Fu Xuan tanks.
But really I pulled for her because I want more sexy designs like that.
copium comment but maybe sgell get better team mates in future ?
WHATCHU MEAN NO ONE WANTS IT? I WAS BEGGING FOR HOYO TO GIVE ME IT SO I CAN EASY CLEAR FORGOTTEN HALL RAAAAAAAAAAAH
she was worth it for me who got her in 3 pulls lol now its all about skipping 2.4 and wait for 2.5 linghsa and after save everything for my 4 tailed fox tingyun!
Good points. I'm still getting Jade because I need a buff to my PF team.
Just cause she’s not valuable now doesn’t mean she won’t be in the future just saying
I lost my 50/50 to yanqing😢 , I can’t get mommy now
you hardly lost, you might have even won and guarantee the next character that will be better than jade
Just put her with Robin and watch her lack of dps fade away. 😂
I want and got her so title is wrong ;)))))
niceu on the pull
JQ isn't even an upgrade to Pela. He is a sidegrade for E0 Acheron teams, and bad on any Kafka team. He even has worse multipliers than Gwen.
And Yunli is just Clara 2.0. She's a sidegrade and the real upgrade is her LC. If you have a built Clara, you profit far more simply from pulling the cracked LC.
The upcoming characters are intentionally mediocre (just like Jade) because Mihoyo wants to pump ZZZ initial sales.
@@araarashinigami whattt is this really true 😂 im for sure pulling the LC then cause my Clara is up there
this and also tupcoming characters are just better.
LINGSHA MAINS RISE!
meta wise she's trash but people are still going to pull for her
Hot take maybe but mid characters are healthy af for gatcha games
I skipped Midfly for her, so that’s ironic. She’s such a fun character she’s worth to me good luck to whoever pulling tho
Jade for me is in really strange spot. She fights for a place in a FUA team where you have sustain + Robin + 2 FUA DPS. In single target Topaz+Ratio are best, in AOE Himeko+Herta are great. Then we have QQ and robot girl for quantum AOE, who works pretty well.
Xueyi doesn't do aoe dmg, she does blast
@@soulfulhuman8724 blast IS AOE and plus her FUA adds too.
mid char her face tell you not to pull
The whole game is easy. Current Moc is entirely laughable, one minute in and out, here's your 800 jades. Only high levels of SU are somewhat hard and because of blessing rng at that. The point is to have fun. And how you get to it is entirely up to you, be it from one shoting something or from a beautiful follow up sequence.
P. S. "One character fits all" is shit game design to begin with, the problem isn't in a specialized character, the problem is overpowered generalist characters. We strictly don't NEED any more characters than Acheron + Firefly and 6 supports for them, as 2 teams they can clear every mod for 800 easily. And it's bad.
Idgaf, She's hot, she's fun, y'all just doomers 😂😂
Heh, speak for the other 95 or so percent. Follow-up attackers are fun to play.
follow up units are SUPER FUN TO PLAY, jade for her role tho is a little pain
buddy you're in the minority who actually pulled for jade
@@rgd9945 yes? reading sure helps
I disagree with you on the changes to her kit, bcs I genuinely love everything about her.
The thing with Jade is that it alleviates a certain problems I had with Pure fiction
Its such a shame, like for pure fiction. Of all the game modes, they make a character specifically for the objectively EASIEST game mode. E0S0 jade is defintely a "characters I regret" pick imo.
Erudition is the sadly still the Geo of Honkai Star Rail
No? You have to invest more in Geo but you get universal damage type. Erudition is just too farm oriented to do decent damage in serious battle.
I am a simple man:
I have a quantum damage dealer, I don't have a physical damage dealer.
If I had to choose, i'd pull for Argenti...
Boothill is garbage.
In pf yes!
In other modes :- he trashes everything
yes he sucks he'll get powercreeped by feixao soon 😆😆😆
I mean. Acheron sucks ass in this PF. It's not even good. Jade is a cool character, I would like to have her on my account but her issue is... She is right after Ruan Mei and Firefly. And we just don't have "jades" tadam tsss.
Anyway. She is only PF character and no one really cares about PF. Especially now when it's only 1 every 6 weeks. If we would not 12* PF NO ONE cares. Losing 60 jades is nothing. If you don't have Clara, Argenti, Boothill... Yunli is just a way better choice.
Able to clear PF with Acheron Dot Team for 1st half. Himeko/Herta for 2nd.
@@furuderika8093 Able to clear doesn't mean good. I did it too but 2nd side hard carried 1st side. Acheron was mid af in compare to 2nd team. Herta + Himeko as always insane in PF.
@@kuruzaru Able to clear does mean good though Acheron consistently 30-40k PF buffed or not since her release. This is before Jiaoqiu even come out which will drastically improve her dmg in PF.
@@kuruzaruBurh mine averages around 35K+ what do you mean she’s Mid in PF? And this is ignoring the Fact that Jai is on the Way that’ll make her get 40K on Auto a Joke…
@@furuderika8093 hmm so i need 3 5stars to clear pf?
Jade is fire idk what yall talking about. Plus she is gonna age well . She gives 30 speed on skill that’s too good to pass up
Why do you think she will age well? Literally no DPS has aged well
@@nikonFB1988 Clara, Seele, QQ, DHIL, Kafka, Ratio, Argenti, Herta, Topaz and Himeko aged well they have been consistently clearing content easily and have lots more supports to choose from now.
@@nikonFB1988 she is a hybrid support sub dps. She buffs your main while still doing good dmg herself. If you have robin ruan mei and xueyi you will see how strong she is. To answer your question tho the supportive side of her is why she will age well when a new super dps drops if they lack speed or if they combo with follow ups or if they need a life drain she will age well cause she will work with them.
@@lanij.k9932 you got a point there.
Xueyi with jade + robin
Blade with jade.
PF clears
Future prospects
Just Good enough in fua comp
She does have her value. I don't think she is bad, just her banner is bad.
I would have pulled her but her banner is just trash so I am skipping.
@@soulfulhuman8724 to not pull on a banner cause the 4 stars are shit is hilarious. You saw Natasha and said naw I’m good. I get it but I mean I feel if it’s a character that I want I’ll get them regardless of the banner. Whatever 4 stars I get I just appreciate the dupes. Also the team is xueyi jade robin and Ruan mei. That comp against the bug or deer is crazy fun just saying.