Norman Finkelstein debates Hebron spokesperson on voting rights of Palestinians in Israel

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  • Опубликовано: 14 май 2024
  • During a debate on Piers Morgan Uncensored on Tuesday, American political scientist Norman Finkelstein pressed the spokesperson for Hebron’s Jewish settler community, Yishai Fleisher, on whether he would accept Palestinians voting in Israeli elections after Fleisher argued that Israel should take over the occupied West Bank and Gaza and turn its current residents into Israeli citizens.
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  • @anwaralisayed9767
    @anwaralisayed9767 16 дней назад +1355

    "A settlers vision for the future of Israel" let that sink in.

    • @Totajee79
      @Totajee79 16 дней назад +54

      Exactly!

    • @stunns2003
      @stunns2003 16 дней назад +108

      Yes, I caught that sophistry as well.
      Might as well have called it a ‘Colonial’s Vision’ or an ‘Oppressor’s Vision’

    • @Libyan_anti_genocidele
      @Libyan_anti_genocidele 16 дней назад +56

      It's almost if they're making a parody or something

    • @Lance-Oakland
      @Lance-Oakland 16 дней назад +65

      They are arrogant criminals.

    • @jchan9761
      @jchan9761 16 дней назад +1

      If native americans can have US voting rights and citizenship, why cannot Palestinians have israeli voting rights and citizenship? Answer: Isreal is a racist project.

  • @ascase
    @ascase 16 дней назад +1185

    So 5 options and none of them gives the Palestinians equal rights 🤔

    • @globalist1990
      @globalist1990 16 дней назад +113

      And when he finally admits he disagrees with one person, one vote, piers then asks him to stop talking. Damage control.

    • @jimbob3030
      @jimbob3030 16 дней назад

      Well of course, can't have a jewish state with a palestinian majority so they're obviously never going to allow that.
      So apartheid or EC or gee cide, maybe they will hold a vote as the only democracy in the middle east?

    • @djpaulcfunkeddub3951
      @djpaulcfunkeddub3951 16 дней назад +8

      @@globalist1990 LOL

    • @funtimefoxy6699
      @funtimefoxy6699 16 дней назад

      Palestinians are given the rights they deserve. Gaza was handed over to the PA on a silver platter - and they shit all over that platter.

    • @mohamedismail2485
      @mohamedismail2485 16 дней назад +1

      The "so called" Palestinians according to the zionist coward!

  • @magdalenegoodwill5878
    @magdalenegoodwill5878 16 дней назад +623

    This guy is gaslighting people.
    Manipulation at its best.
    Well done again for showing his true colours.
    Norman is the best.

    • @jchan9761
      @jchan9761 16 дней назад +15

      He has a channel on YT and it is filled with his lies.

    • @shelbeg7228
      @shelbeg7228 16 дней назад +24

      I think all their spokespeople are trained in it. They all follow they same script.

    • @optimus2g
      @optimus2g 16 дней назад +14

      All they do is lie.

    • @michaelfisher1537
      @michaelfisher1537 16 дней назад

      self hating Jew - he disgusts me with his lies

    • @user-rd7ek9ve3r
      @user-rd7ek9ve3r 16 дней назад +17

      Conman, smiling and avoiding the question. Like most politicians. No integrity or humility. Normans honestly, clarity and lack of word salad stands out.

  • @FayesFood
    @FayesFood 16 дней назад +1002

    "so-called Palestinians"...that guy is disgusting.

    • @emilymorton6510
      @emilymorton6510 16 дней назад

      It's so called Israel to be factually correct. It's existence is blasphemous and is opposed to Judaism.

    • @jamesthompson9003
      @jamesthompson9003 16 дней назад +9

      That's just a name that the Romans referred to the people of the Levant as - so there was literally no such thing as 'Palestinians' before ancient European colonizers called the region that. Also you can find no shortage of people in this comment section alone who would say that Israel is an illegitimate state and there are no such thing as 'Israelis'. These are all just arbitrary names of made-up nations (as all nations are) - nobody is denying the existence of ethnic-Arabs and ethnic-Jews

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings 16 дней назад +25

      Mind Begs the Question:
      - Dehumanizing a group of people as Rats is Fascist
      - Dehumanizing a group of people as Human Animals is Not Fascist?

    • @inctimber
      @inctimber 16 дней назад

      They say this because Israel is truly just recently a made up thing that has no legitimacy, so they try to project

    • @akmal94ibrahim
      @akmal94ibrahim 16 дней назад

      They also like to call palestinians living in Israel as Arab Israelis in order to remove their Palestinian heritage.

  • @Anigmama
    @Anigmama 16 дней назад +484

    Yishai Fleisher was born in Haifa to Soviet parents and grew up in the U.S. But denies the existence of Palestinians and feels he has more rights than Arabs who have lived in the region for generations?

    • @jimbohouston
      @jimbohouston 16 дней назад +34

      We call that 'chutzpah'

    • @yomismo6969
      @yomismo6969 16 дней назад +46

      So he was from another country far away from that land called israel and he can be a citizen of that land. But a palestinian that was born in that land and was expelled from it can't be a citizen of that land? Morgan really tried to do damage control.

    • @gnostic268
      @gnostic268 16 дней назад +38

      Settlers are always like that. Obnoxious and entitled as hell. B.S. machines

    • @Tabish29
      @Tabish29 16 дней назад +4

      ​@@jimbohoustonlooks like "we" have zero shame

    • @michaelfisher1537
      @michaelfisher1537 16 дней назад +2

      we Jews go back 3700 years

  • @Thearvdr
    @Thearvdr 16 дней назад +497

    That man has the audacity to tell that Palestinian home is Jordan.A bold face liar .

    • @michaelfisher1537
      @michaelfisher1537 16 дней назад +5

      Jordan is palestinian home

    • @Ntuthu-ZA
      @Ntuthu-ZA 16 дней назад +9

      @@michaelfisher1537 and Poland, Russia etc?

    • @lizbethartemis4886
      @lizbethartemis4886 16 дней назад

      great story tellers 😂😂

    • @JojoJoget
      @JojoJoget 16 дней назад +5

      @@lunarvvolf9606 you can say the same about Americans with dual citizenships, worse actually, Israelis could become politicians and run US politics, like how Blinken does

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 16 дней назад +1

      He is right. Many came from Jordan and Egypt and Lebanon and Syria

  • @tachikoma7757
    @tachikoma7757 16 дней назад +446

    Dr. Norman saw through the twisted snakes ruse. Bravo!

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings 16 дней назад +2

      Mind Begs the Question:
      - If a Govt stage WMD Hoax
      - Govt can't stage Terrorist Attack
      - To manufacture justification,consent
      - For Ethnic Cleansing,Total Occupation?

    • @akmal94ibrahim
      @akmal94ibrahim 16 дней назад +10

      He was smirking at the end there when this Yishai guy can only say "I accept that that is something to be discussed". Can see through his bs.

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 16 дней назад +1

      Norman is a disgraceful liar

    • @akmal94ibrahim
      @akmal94ibrahim 16 дней назад +8

      @@alizakessler and what are the lies?

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 16 дней назад

      @@akmal94ibrahim he called Hamas resistance fighters and oppressed people who have a right to kill Israelis. He called Yishai a war criminal for living in his own land.

  • @mmm-mq3zr
    @mmm-mq3zr 16 дней назад +163

    One side is calm, cool and collected...
    The other side is boisterous, nervous and interrupting.
    Tell you all you need to know...

  • @TheGaz981
    @TheGaz981 16 дней назад +196

    Vote next door, but live subjugated by my occupier in my own home. Laughable.

    • @fredflinstone6601
      @fredflinstone6601 16 дней назад

      If Palestinians accept, in a few years they would be ethnically cleansed with the excuse that they’re citizens of Jordan. These “people “ are scom, and few are falling for their scheming/lying shite anymore. Israelie!

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 16 дней назад +1

      Israel isn't an occupier. It is their land

    • @fredflinstone6601
      @fredflinstone6601 16 дней назад +9

      @@alizakessler lol!

    • @czarkusa2018
      @czarkusa2018 16 дней назад +15

      @@alizakessler I'm on my way to "not occupy" your house :)

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 15 дней назад

      @@czarkusa2018 nothing is being occupied

  • @Cynthia_5479
    @Cynthia_5479 16 дней назад +265

    lol I would’ve called him “the other guest” too, I love Norman so much he wasn’t even trying to slam him but he absolutely did .

    • @spamfilter32
      @spamfilter32 16 дней назад +16

      Norman is known to throw shade like that actually. I give him props for it. Norm was subtly letting the audience know that the other guests ideas are as worthy of being remembered as his name is.

    • @taherabunama4559
      @taherabunama4559 16 дней назад +1

      💯

    • @joansbeef4035
      @joansbeef4035 16 дней назад +1

      Games played by ficklenormanston are quite insane, hopefully it's real games and not senile.

    • @beebeemo
      @beebeemo 16 дней назад

      @@joansbeef4035no, you’re either too brainwashed, too evil, too delusional, or too dumb to understand… or a combination of those things, which is more likely.

    • @spamfilter32
      @spamfilter32 16 дней назад

      @joansbeef4035 hello Nazi.

  • @user-do1ej9ub4n
    @user-do1ej9ub4n 16 дней назад +298

    imagine being proud of authoring an article titled "A settlers vision for the future of Israel". it doesnt get more evil

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 16 дней назад

      He isn't evil

    • @feralmode
      @feralmode 16 дней назад +14

      and the new york times goes ahead and publishes it as if it's some cute taylor swift lyrics and not a genocidal manifesto.

    • @feralmode
      @feralmode 16 дней назад +3

      @@alizakessler yes he is. ok maybe he isn't evil but his actions are. maybe he's just insane.

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 16 дней назад

      @@feralmode Yes Norman is evil. Called this man a war criminal for living in his own land. Shameful

    • @feralmode
      @feralmode 16 дней назад +8

      @@alizakessler wow. you guys are special. he called him a war criminal because he stole the land from other people. this is against international law, my friend. although i'm sure you'll try to claim some 2000 year old book says the land is his.

  • @anastazijastanku7592
    @anastazijastanku7592 16 дней назад +603

    Palestinians are Heroes. Long live the Palestinian resistance. 💪🇵🇸 🇵🇸

  • @NobuhikuObayashi
    @NobuhikuObayashi 16 дней назад +173

    lol I would’ve called him “the other guest” too, I love Norman so much he wasn’t even trying to slam him but he absolutely did 😂

    • @miriamschiro8585
      @miriamschiro8585 16 дней назад +1

      Exactly 😂 He did slam him in the manner of possessing the three C’s cool calm and collective 😁
      The other quest was extremely defensive as all Zionist are with their disgusting idiocy

    • @ascase
      @ascase 16 дней назад +5

      It was either "the other guest" or "Mr. Fisherprice"

    • @spamfilter32
      @spamfilter32 16 дней назад +3

      No, Norm was throwing shade deliberately. He was letting the audience know that the "other gueats" ideas are as worthy of being remembered as his name is.

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 16 дней назад

      Norman is a liar

    • @spamfilter32
      @spamfilter32 16 дней назад +2

      @@alizakessler no, that's just you.

  • @PSP18128
    @PSP18128 16 дней назад +129

    Norman You nailed it again bravo!

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 16 дней назад +1

      Nope. He lied

    • @PSP18128
      @PSP18128 16 дней назад

      @@alizakessler ok hasbara bot who has no father-figure who is part of the sU!c!d3 squad

  • @james123783
    @james123783 16 дней назад +20

    He outright says that he doesn't like the idea of everyone having a vote. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the only "democratic" country in the Middle East.

  • @user-ln2cj1ig5h
    @user-ln2cj1ig5h 16 дней назад +354

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸

    • @pacmanmcgavin7034
      @pacmanmcgavin7034 16 дней назад +1

      It was free...

    • @user-ln2cj1ig5h
      @user-ln2cj1ig5h 16 дней назад

      @@pacmanmcgavin7034 people turned a blind eye when the holocaust was happening.. knowing the truth.. pretending it wasn’t happening.. never again to anyone

    • @user-ln2cj1ig5h
      @user-ln2cj1ig5h 16 дней назад

      @@pacmanmcgavin7034 I suggest you watch Tantura it’s a Israeli documentary… denying the truth will get you nowhere. Eventually, truth comes out.

    • @geraltofrivia9424
      @geraltofrivia9424 16 дней назад +3

      ​@@pacmanmcgavin7034And now it is not

    • @edosandzo
      @edosandzo 16 дней назад +5

      ​@@pacmanmcgavin7034 And it will be free again God willing!

  • @jonuzmiftari8112
    @jonuzmiftari8112 16 дней назад +40

    He said "the so called Palestinians”. In other words Palestinians dont exist for him

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 16 дней назад

      They don't. They are called arabs

    • @aliragh
      @aliragh 15 дней назад

      Israeli's are a 20th century made up identity.
      These people are in fact, Ukrainians, Polish, Americans, Australians, Canadians, English, Germans, Dutch, Spanish, Moroccans, Iranians, Iraqi's, Saudi's, Indie's, Russians, Hungarians, Austrians, Italians, Greeks, Romanians, Mexicans, Brazilians, Nigerians, Ethiopians, Algerians, Libyans, Sudanese, Egyptians, Kenyans, South Africans and likely a whole lot bigger list of people from around the globe with a shared religious affinity.
      It is a fact that so called Israeli's are no more than migrants, settlers, invaders, colonizers, what ever name you wish to label them as, but anything but indigenous or native for the most part.
      Palestinian Israeli's ofc are native to the lands whether Jewish, Muslim or Christian.
      But all those that migrated to these lands during the 20th century have little to absolutely no historical connection to these lands.
      A religious connection sure, but not a genetic one.
      That belief is a farce, a joke, a ruse, a distraction all meant to politically gain support from fools or otherwise make people turn away from the actual truth of what Israel really is all about.
      Hint: Colonization, geopolitical power and political influence.

    • @eypu999
      @eypu999 12 дней назад

      Of course they don’t 😂
      As most Zios believe

  • @Randomfoibles
    @Randomfoibles 16 дней назад +66

    Let them speak and they will show you who they are.

  • @StHat20
    @StHat20 16 дней назад +68

    This Israeli guy spun what Norman was saying.
    Norman never said that genocide was the only option.
    I find whenever I listen to a pro Israeli they speak quickly, spin the other persons’ comments and don’t answer the other persons comments.

    • @MaryLou5239
      @MaryLou5239 16 дней назад +5

      I agree 💯

    • @HolocaustShmolocaust
      @HolocaustShmolocaust 16 дней назад

      Conmen and street criminals speak like that.

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 16 дней назад

      Norman is a sick liar

    • @dominozonda
      @dominozonda 14 дней назад +2

      They are really manipulative with no morals
      Just trying to manipulate the audience and silence the other guest by continuously interrupting them

  • @peacekeeper9496
    @peacekeeper9496 16 дней назад +15

    Did he just say...be a citizen of Israel but vote in Jordan? 🤣 Is this guy out of his mind????

  • @fazilm1
    @fazilm1 16 дней назад +103

    What a crock of $h!t. Vote in Jordan but residents here? Here in Israel or Occupied Palestine? He actually referred to Jordan as Palestinian Jordan their country? Why not let them become citizens of Israel with equal voting rights as Norman said? This guy's line is not a serious argument. And he actually wrote this in the new York times and proud of it. What were the editors thinking of. But then again it is the New York Times...what do you expect?

    • @Mailrobot
      @Mailrobot 16 дней назад

      NYT is financed by the Israeli lobby

    • @joansbeef4035
      @joansbeef4035 16 дней назад

      Baby steps lads, small victory one thing at a time. For example, the immigrants first moved into Germany, lived there for years, reproduce and populate, build a stronghold, and now demand for shariah law and rights. It's all about the strat, we islam know da way. Free palestine, we will rule the world.

    • @BamBamGT1
      @BamBamGT1 16 дней назад +1

      Psst. Everyone in the West Bank had the Jordanian nationality untill 1988, well beyond 1967. It was only then that Jordan revoked their Jordanian nationality under pressure from the Arab League and handed over the authority to the PLO. That's when Jordanian citizens became the stateless Palestinians overnight.

    • @lizbethartemis4886
      @lizbethartemis4886 16 дней назад +2

      Yisrael took land from Jordan during 6 day war.

    • @fazilm1
      @fazilm1 16 дней назад +7

      @BamBamGT1 nonsense. The west bank and east Jerusalem were "administered" by Jordan and the Gaza strip by Egypt. They were not Jordanian citizens. Go back and read the Balfour declaration and the British mandate. Israel was given statehood in the UN but not the remaining territories in which the Arab Palestinians lived. But they were there long before Europe jews arrived.

  • @retrofedora7061
    @retrofedora7061 16 дней назад +25

    "A settler vision for the future i3roel ". Well atleast he realizes they are "settler" & not the indigenous.
    The way "the other guest" tried to gaslight, twisting Norman's word & running from the question is so repugnant.

  • @msaadah1223
    @msaadah1223 16 дней назад +11

    Living in Israel as "residents" and only given voting rights for a completely different country. What the actual fuck

  • @alabiabdulwasiu6156
    @alabiabdulwasiu6156 16 дней назад +55

    Just for those who might not get the question asked by Norman or it's implications and why Yisai avoided it like a plague is that if he agreed - which of course he and other Israelis will never agree to - then Israel will become the minority while Palestinians will become the majority hence becoming the ruler/government since the deal in the question is that "one man, one vote".
    Check how Norman smile almost at the end of the video. Cos if the Israeli society will really want such, then their won't be a need for committing genocide in the first place.
    Always love Norman for being a thousand steps ahead of those Zionist.😂😂😂😂

    • @SeanCrosser
      @SeanCrosser 16 дней назад +8

      They need to maintain and uphold demographic majority so that they can keep Israel as an ethnostate.

    • @edwickford2377
      @edwickford2377 16 дней назад

      I don't get it ; why should Israel allow people who wish to rid the world of Jews become a majority in their country ?

    • @entahlah88
      @entahlah88 16 дней назад +1

      He knows Norman asking the right question, and he's losing the argument , trying his best to make Norman look like a fool by his fake positive acting.. but Norman already checkmate him up, hahaha

    • @edwickford2377
      @edwickford2377 16 дней назад

      I see what you are saying, so effectively Hamas will become the new government and will then carry on with their aim of riding the world of Jews , including Norman. No wonder, he was asking that !

    • @alabiabdulwasiu6156
      @alabiabdulwasiu6156 15 дней назад +1

      @@edwickford2377 A quick one, please define "world of Jews"?

  • @erifkind
    @erifkind 16 дней назад +110

    Debating a Zionist is pointless. It’s like trying to teach a cat to play chess.

    • @Truthorfib
      @Truthorfib 16 дней назад

      Dude doesnt even live there (Parents are from the Soviet Union and Grew up in the states) and is basically doing what the Europeans did to the natives of America, Australia, and Canada.

    • @Tabish29
      @Tabish29 16 дней назад +15

      A cat will one day play chess. A zio will go on till their last days lying and being victims.

    • @jimmybones4708
      @jimmybones4708 16 дней назад

      ​@@Tabish29Most Americans I think like 87% don't even know what a Zionist is. There still trying to name the VP.

    • @4everVone
      @4everVone 16 дней назад +9

      Exactly!!! They are all narcists and are always shouting thruw their debates...

    • @ibrahimkhalilrazu9653
      @ibrahimkhalilrazu9653 16 дней назад +3

      So true! You can’t teach math to a dinkey

  • @lovemamahouse
    @lovemamahouse 16 дней назад +69

    I like how Norman talks.

    • @Citizen052
      @Citizen052 16 дней назад +1

      you cannot bullshit him

    • @crunkalac
      @crunkalac 16 дней назад

      God forbid anyone takes time to think about what they're saying too. Such a faux pas.

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 16 дней назад

      He is a liar

    • @johnsmith1474
      @johnsmith1474 16 дней назад

      Yes a lovely voice, so easy to listen to, so smooth.

    • @redacted3740
      @redacted3740 12 дней назад

      ​@@alizakessler Maybe you're just too stupid to understand what he's actually saying

  • @Donttouchme22387
    @Donttouchme22387 16 дней назад +50

    I love how Norman calls their bs all the time

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 16 дней назад +1

      Norman is lying as usual

    • @Donttouchme22387
      @Donttouchme22387 14 дней назад

      @@alizakessler u would know something about that clearly

  • @VTFWTF
    @VTFWTF 16 дней назад +12

    The guests who isn't Norman admitted that he does not want the palestinians to have the right to vote.

  • @timkbirchico8542
    @timkbirchico8542 16 дней назад +52

    Norman speaks the truth clearly and fearlessly. Well done Mr. Finkelstein.

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 16 дней назад +1

      He speaks lies

    • @timkbirchico8542
      @timkbirchico8542 15 дней назад

      @@alizakessler So, you are a Zionist?

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 15 дней назад

      @@timkbirchico8542 proud zionist

    • @timkbirchico8542
      @timkbirchico8542 14 дней назад

      @@alizakessler Hi, we can all see the nature of zionism expressed by members of the Knesset, Netanyahu, the military and the Israeli media. And of course the ICJ Prima Facie case accusation of genocide in Gaza. It is time for you to re assess your proud zionism. The rest of the world is against zionism. Zionism sets itself aside from the goyim, therefore it is exclusive. That is racism defined. You probably have a good heart but have been misled into the wrong headedness of zionism. Peace to you Aliza

    • @shovanbijoy7136
      @shovanbijoy7136 13 дней назад +1

      ​@@alizakesslerproud racist huh

  • @mohamedismail2485
    @mohamedismail2485 16 дней назад +26

    "so called" Palestinians??? WOW!!!

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 16 дней назад +1

      Yup. They were called Arabs before 1948

    • @aibdraco01
      @aibdraco01 15 дней назад

      @@alizakessler If I'm X, I won't want anyone to call me Y. Period!!!

    • @eypu999
      @eypu999 12 дней назад

      ⁠​⁠@@alizakessler
      Ppl can have 2 identities 😮 one is ethnicity one is a nation identity.
      The Palestinian Citizenship Order 1925 was a law of Mandatory Palestine that created a Palestinian citizenship for residents of the territory of Palestine Mandate.

  • @zainvvallee3966
    @zainvvallee3966 16 дней назад +33

    These settlers don't believe in Equal rights.

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 16 дней назад +1

      He isn't a settler. It is his land.

    • @zainvvallee3966
      @zainvvallee3966 15 дней назад +2

      @@alizakessler He says he is a Settler

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 15 дней назад

      @@zainvvallee3966 he is not a settler in his own land

    • @zainvvallee3966
      @zainvvallee3966 14 дней назад

      @@alizakessler how most of the came from Europe

  • @beretta0222
    @beretta0222 16 дней назад +29

    "A settlers vision for the future of Israel" Is this guy serious??

  • @ahmmustafakamal696
    @ahmmustafakamal696 16 дней назад +68

    The other person who is debating Norman was so insignificant that he has to tell time and time that his name is …..

  • @waqmanime
    @waqmanime 16 дней назад +129

    He doesnt accept there is only genocide. No that is the approach they are taking.

    • @globalist1990
      @globalist1990 16 дней назад +15

      @@tafferskithe ratio is one "military personnel" to 9 civilians. Btw, palestine has no army. They're civilian insurgents.

    • @tafferski
      @tafferski 16 дней назад

      @@globalist1990 No, it's 4:1, at worse. And now that it had been found that the number of dead is actually lower than we thought it is, the ratio is probably around 2:1.

    • @VDOless
      @VDOless 16 дней назад +8

      ​@tafferski tell me, what really happens to you if you guys finally admit that it's a genocide?

    • @mariahewitt9787
      @mariahewitt9787 16 дней назад +7

      ​@@tafferski
      Hasbara is Not Cutting it...

    • @tafferski
      @tafferski 16 дней назад +1

      ​@@globalist1990 It's 4:1 at worse, and now that it had been found that the number of dead is actually lower than speculated, it's probably around 2:1.

  • @Ryka_Mac
    @Ryka_Mac 16 дней назад +9

    Yishai, what a weirdo, like a gaslighting salesman.

  • @user-ti2kb8ho4z
    @user-ti2kb8ho4z 16 дней назад +72

    Yes, my dear brothers, my beloved Palestine is the cradle of Christianity and Judaism, and it contains Al-Aqsa, the third holiest place for us Muslims in Palestine. Bethlehem, the cradle of Christ, is a blessed land, and it is the holy land, and it has been our land for tens of thousands of years, and it is the land of the Canaanite Arabs, the original Palestinian people, and they have lived in it since the Islamic conquest in the era. The Umayyad, Abbasid and Ottoman Arabs, Muslims, Christians and Jews are like brothers and neighbors under Palestinian rule to the owners of the land, but the Zionists came and the British occupation brought them to our land as compensation to the Jews for what they did to them Hitler. The question here is that who did the Holocaust, the Germans, why do I, the Palestinian Arab, pay the price? Why not Germany? Why do I, the Muslim, pay the price for crimes? Committed by the Germans and Nazi Europe, fascism is the root of all evil in the world. Our problem is the occupation💚❤️💚🇵🇸☝️

    • @robertoaguadogarcia3600
      @robertoaguadogarcia3600 16 дней назад

      Careful. When you go that back in history you play their game. They will tell you they had Hebron 3500 years ago, and so they can expand Jewish neighbourhoods where Palestinians end up being forced out one way or another. Same with the villages. But current international law is not about that. History does not give anyone the right to expel someone from a house that has inherited from their parents. And this goes both ways -- with many settlements you should make "tabula rasa", in line with what Olmert proposed, even if those settlements were illegal two decades ago. The thing is that this madness must stop, even though both the majority of Israelis and the majority of Palestinians disagree. Recognize current settlements, OK, but stop at once, make IDF disengage from the West Bank, strictly forbid future settlements, and recognize the Palestinian State as well!

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 16 дней назад

      There is no Palestine and that mosque is built on the ruins of 2 Temples

  • @wesselbindt
    @wesselbindt 16 дней назад +4

    Norman Finkelstein is a force of nature. Good god I'm so happy he's on the right side of history

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 16 дней назад

      He is on the wrong side of history.

  • @alwayzurboy
    @alwayzurboy 16 дней назад +16

    He set a trap and let him tell on himself. Masterful.

  • @itsamyxoxx
    @itsamyxoxx 16 дней назад +25

    0:45 dont be fooled they are treated as second class citizens its been debuked by people who live there sharing their stories and by second class I mean really and this is putting it in easy words

    • @caspar_gomez
      @caspar_gomez 16 дней назад +1

      Yes, it really gets tiring having to listen to tjem spin it, like trying to claim black people had no need for a civil rights movement after slavery

    • @itsamyxoxx
      @itsamyxoxx 12 дней назад +1

      @@caspar_gomez thats the point!!!! these rights were not given but it was with protests like this and george flloyd 2020!!!! There are protests now in Congo and other african countries against French and British and US imperialism. So did they leave????? NO these protests are now and not 200 years after slavery ended or when segregation ended this is going on right now. 2024. It ties directly to this. the army bases are still there and they wont leave. If protestors make them leave they will be labelled as criminals. Same with palestinne the people were still in cages before october they were not free and the occupation was still going on everyday for 78 years. Alot of children just ended up born inside the prison walls. They were innocent and inside why? the UN said years ago there was not enough food. To keep them weak food was limited. WTF the same thing happened in South Africa.

    • @itsamyxoxx
      @itsamyxoxx 9 дней назад

      Ikr 😠

  • @bliss448
    @bliss448 16 дней назад +25

    A genocide by any other name is still a genocide.

  • @Seanomarachain
    @Seanomarachain 16 дней назад +45

    So funny, vote in Canada...

    • @calicocat8213
      @calicocat8213 16 дней назад +10

      Very fitting comparison .

    • @stunns2003
      @stunns2003 16 дней назад

      The Zionists and Settlers have clearly lost the argument.
      “A Settler’s Vision”……..?
      They’re not even concealing it anymore.

    • @BamBamGT1
      @BamBamGT1 16 дней назад

      @@calicocat8213 It would help if you knew history. Jordan was actually a part of the mandate for Palestine untill 1946. The people in the West Bank had the Jordanian nationality untill 1988, 2 decades beyond 1967. The state of Palestine and "Palestinian people" are fairly recent developments in history.

    • @caspar_gomez
      @caspar_gomez 16 дней назад +5

      ​@@BamBamGT1doesnt matter if the palestinians don't live in jordan why would they benefit from voting there

    • @lycan3868
      @lycan3868 13 дней назад

      @@BamBamGT1 well actualy the jewish people who came from europe before the 1948 had a palestinian passport and identity, so you saying the "Palestinian people are fairly recent developments in history" is just a lie to make the people who have no idea about the conflict believe that there was no country in that region before the establishement of the israeli state just like the phrase that the zionists used "A land without a people for a people without a land" to justify the colonization in the mid 19's which is not true.
      palestine have been there before the creation of israel, the balfour declaration itself that was the cause of the creation of israel literally stated the establishement of jewish state in palestine and here is the quote:
      "His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine".
      so you better get educated before commenting such things cuz you are just embarassing yourself, that's assuming that you don't know the truth and you weren't just lying on purpose.
      PS: you can check the internet for every information i stated in this comment ^^

  • @beatingusoon
    @beatingusoon 16 дней назад +6

    Imagine America being invaded.. The invaders settle there and then force Americans to apply for citizenship 🤣🤣🤣

  • @tens0r884
    @tens0r884 16 дней назад +5

    Imagine not being able to answer "Yes" to "one person one vote" while simultaneously calling yourself "the only democracy in the middle east". its baffling

  • @davidpate3859
    @davidpate3859 16 дней назад +4

    “God is not a real estate agency and never promised land for Nazis who have cowardly killed thousands of Palestinian children and women for over 75 years of occupation” ~ A wise man

  • @kenzieworld197
    @kenzieworld197 16 дней назад +12

    Notice he never answered the question just rambled on and on

  • @paulflute
    @paulflute 16 дней назад +9

    so finally he spoke his truth.. "I DON'T LIKE THAT PROPOSAL" .. of all people of a given area being able to vote..
    so that's clear.. and we have a name for that already.. it's called Apartheid..

  • @arthurfrost9004
    @arthurfrost9004 16 дней назад +15

    A settlers vision for the future of Israel? is this a joke, because it wasn't funny.

  • @ahmeda.3198
    @ahmeda.3198 16 дней назад +18

    By the way, on the B’Tselem channel is a video of ‘settlers’ from Hebron who look like cavemen, and one of them is literally clubbing a group of women for daring to hike on the hills of Hebron, which is outside of Israel’s official borders.

  •  16 дней назад +20

    All tespect for the brilliant and courageous Professor Finkelstein. 💞

  • @wolfiesown
    @wolfiesown 16 дней назад +6

    ‘We can discuss it”. Apparently civil rights & equality are negotiable

  • @taniakol
    @taniakol 16 дней назад +4

    I'm so glad Norman Finkelstein is becoming well-known, taking on these entitled racists who are so off-putting.

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 16 дней назад

      He is a sick liar. It's a shame anyone would believehis lies

  • @MehmetUzman
    @MehmetUzman 16 дней назад +5

    Norman Finkelstein has a place in million's hearts

  • @robertkraljii5048
    @robertkraljii5048 16 дней назад +4

    This Fleisher fellow is full of bright ideas. It’s like if I suggested that Israelis only have the right to vote…in Eurovision.

  • @bandits99
    @bandits99 16 дней назад +3

    He noticed Norm Finkelstein smiling to himself and that's when he realised he'd f***ed up 😆😆😆

  • @mohamedismail2485
    @mohamedismail2485 16 дней назад +8

    The term "settlers" was being thrown around to give the impression that those East European invaders were merely innocent migrants trying to "settle" on an empty land!

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 16 дней назад

      Jews are not settlers in their ownland

  • @cormacporter4990
    @cormacporter4990 15 дней назад +3

    Norman: "One person, one vote"
    Genocide Apologist: "I dont like that option"

  • @golamrabbaniedi3596
    @golamrabbaniedi3596 16 дней назад +3

    When you see Dr. Norman is smiling, that means he caught you red-handed.

  • @tshawtshi3040
    @tshawtshi3040 16 дней назад +4

    He fell into Norman's trap brilliantly. By excluding the one state solution Norman tempted him to ask about it which when articulated by Norman he showed his true colors by saying I don't agree with it. Soooo there you go a guy that is presenting himself as reasonable does not accept the only none genocidal solution. Ergo what Norman said before was accurate. Genius

  • @k_sstar5645
    @k_sstar5645 16 дней назад +3

    He is just saying palastineas may vote but under isrealis supremacy!!! What a democratic country.

  • @rose-maries7131
    @rose-maries7131 16 дней назад +3

    I love how Normans silent smirk feels like a whole lecture...

  • @Adrien323
    @Adrien323 16 дней назад +3

    The veil of zionism is consistently crushed by asking incredibly difficult questions like "Do you believe Palestinians should have equal rights," "Does that include the right to self-determination," and "Do you believe they are human beings?"

  • @newonevery740
    @newonevery740 16 дней назад +16

    He clearly refused Norman's solution

    • @jimbohouston
      @jimbohouston 16 дней назад

      It's actually not a reasonable solution. The majority of Israeli citizens are committed zionists and they want a jewish state. The only option is to cut off all aid to Israel and let them duke it out into perpetuity. Or, more likely, that the state of Israel will simply rupture and collapse and will get replaced by a Palestinian Government.

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 16 дней назад

      Because Norman is a liar

    • @newonevery740
      @newonevery740 14 дней назад

      @@alizakessler naaaah he is a G

  • @samuelgutierrez6609
    @samuelgutierrez6609 16 дней назад +2

    Notice that the other guest talks about "democracy in the Middle east" but then has no options for equal rights for the Palestinians, and then when presented with the option for equal Palestinian rights, he doesn't like it. Wow what a DEMOCRACY where half the population wouldn't have equal rights and couldn't vote. Why the hell is my tax dollars going to this joke of a country when Americans in the US need help?

  • @marcusnelson7026
    @marcusnelson7026 16 дней назад +2

    NEVER GET YOUR OPPONENTS NAME RIGHT. Norm did a great job.

  • @jayr6637
    @jayr6637 16 дней назад +6

    When your argument is bad... just interrupt & talk over the other person is a vain attempt to make yourself look better!

  • @harialti9846
    @harialti9846 16 дней назад +4

    Man legit said “so called Palestinians” and he thinks he has a solution 🙄

  • @tdavani
    @tdavani 15 дней назад +1

    Norman, you are a gift to humanity and most rational human being.
    Grateful for your existence and intelligence

  • @leedavis6000
    @leedavis6000 16 дней назад +7

    What I find funny about Israeli spokes people. They try all the bluster but when you have someone like Norman who knows lot bout the issue of Israel and Palestine . They can’t use that bluster.

  • @Aslan_Reza
    @Aslan_Reza 16 дней назад +5

    You have settlers come from Europe, America and Australia squatting illegally on occupied territories and referring to indigenous people as “so called Palestinian”
    ….how dare he!?

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 16 дней назад

      Jews are not settlers in their own land. And yes they are indigenous people of the land. The so called Palestinians are arabs

    • @Aslan_Reza
      @Aslan_Reza 16 дней назад +2

      @@alizakessler European settlers/so called Jews carry German-Polish-Russian-Ukrainian-Estonian DNA, that’s why DNA testing is banned in apartheid Israel!!

    • @alizakessler
      @alizakessler 16 дней назад

      @@Aslan_Reza Majority of jews are not European jews and the are not settlers in their own land. DNA testing isn't banned

  • @The_Voice_of_Reason748
    @The_Voice_of_Reason748 16 дней назад +3

    "If I don't steal it then someone else will"
    - Fat Yakob the settler from NY

  • @441A444
    @441A444 16 дней назад +2

    The other guest's lighthearted tone is the banality of evil.

  • @rifaatrafiq9994
    @rifaatrafiq9994 16 дней назад +2

    He was willing to look at other options other than genocide but then not willing to consider one person one vote!!
    Only option he is offering for palestinans is to live under settlers in state of Israel.
    Says it all!!

  • @66hats
    @66hats 16 дней назад +3

    Checkmate to Norman

  • @Blindmonkey69
    @Blindmonkey69 16 дней назад +3

    Hahahaha how can he just slip in at the end "I don't like proposal" whilst pretending to be caring about working out a fair resolution!!??! 😂😂😂

  • @santichatterjee7284
    @santichatterjee7284 16 дней назад +2

    Total gaslighting. These chaps are past masters. Great to hear Finkelstein❤

  • @afterhourscinema782
    @afterhourscinema782 16 дней назад +3

    Just LOOK at images of Hebron. People are LITERALLY separated by fences and barb wire while Palestinians are forced to live on the bottom. Even South Africa was less obvious about their apartheid.

  • @jemps4437
    @jemps4437 16 дней назад +4

    The vision of an Israeli settler: Palestinians to be given "permanent residency" in their own but Israeli-occupied land and so can not participate in Israeli elections since they're just residents, not citizens. BUT as a show of generosity and respect, for democratic processes; they (Palestinians) will be allowed by Israel to participate in Jordanian elections. 🤭

    • @paulmatters2641
      @paulmatters2641 16 дней назад

      Presumably these non-citizens would pay taxes to the State of Israel. Taxation without representation. Seemed to have heard that somewhere before? Jefferson, Franklin, Adams. Ring a bell. That other person not Norman is a clown show

  • @samray3461
    @samray3461 16 дней назад +4

    In short: Settler says quote "I don't like that proposal" in regards to Democracy.

  • @tothelighthouse9843
    @tothelighthouse9843 16 дней назад +4

    Lmao Norman Finkelstein is such a brilliant & cagey debater without being rude, derisive or needing to raise his voice!
    He got Mr Fleisher to show his hand: Mr Fleisher doesn't actually believe in a democracy with free Palestinians. We can **propose** that as a starting point, but he doesn't like it & the proposal won't stay on the table very long.

  • @owena3896
    @owena3896 16 дней назад +4

    How do these supposedly high standard news papers let and idiotic proposal such that laid by the "other guest" namely, let Palestinians vote in Jordan. He is so proud that he got to publish this stupendous option in the news papers. No wonder people stopped reading news papers

  • @Q8Caffeinated
    @Q8Caffeinated 16 дней назад +6

    The dude is as obnoxious as a cars salesman on a mission to rip you off.
    He saw the question Mr. Finkelstein was in the process of throwing his way and he tried, with all his phony salesmanship, to dodge only to swallow his pride in the end and without giving an answer in return.
    Well played Mr. Finkelstein, well played 👏

    • @ghana312
      @ghana312 14 дней назад +1

      My thoughts exactly. It was Professor Norman v. a used car salesman. Surprised that Piers made him put a sock in it so that the Professor could finish a sentence.

  • @gitwindoixphog613
    @gitwindoixphog613 16 дней назад +3

    This gentleman is a clown, and not fit to debate a scholar like Norman

  • @AtakanAltay
    @AtakanAltay 16 дней назад +1

    Thank you, Norman

  • @djpaulcfunkeddub3951
    @djpaulcfunkeddub3951 16 дней назад +4

    The arrogant always interrupt

  • @bertionoone
    @bertionoone 16 дней назад +3

    Vote in Jordan.... "Voting in their country". I'm not sure this guy is hearing himself.

  • @Irishrover11
    @Irishrover11 16 дней назад +4

    Norm smokes another one!

  • @globalist1990
    @globalist1990 16 дней назад +4

    See how piers asks him to stop when he says he doesn't like the option of one person, one vote. Piers always on damage control....

  • @shaikhkamruzzaman1177
    @shaikhkamruzzaman1177 16 дней назад +2

    Mr. Norman is boss of humanity.

  • @DamajaCJ
    @DamajaCJ 16 дней назад +3

    Okay, Yishai, in that option you said the Palestinian refugees currently in Jordan (and Lebanon, and Egypt and Syria and Iraq) get to come back, but you want them to vote in those countries... That goes the same for all the people who are currently in Israel that came from elsewhere, right? So, all those U.S., U.K., South African, Australian, Russian, Ukrainian, Polish, Hungarian, Argentinian, Uruguayan, etc. etc. etc. etc. imports go back and vite in those countries, right??!

  • @waynevanrensburg8037
    @waynevanrensburg8037 16 дней назад +3

    Another Norm serve, love it

  • @harrysalci3981
    @harrysalci3981 16 дней назад +1

    Mr Finkelstein is on another level 👏👏👏

  • @AnalyseThat
    @AnalyseThat 16 дней назад +1

    He's prepared to give Palestinians a vote, but in the next country. A criminal mind can only bring out twisted logic!

  • @nadirrabah6756
    @nadirrabah6756 16 дней назад +4

    "Isn't that nice?" Sarcastic prks aren't they?!!!!!!!!

  • @MarkG-gb6nq
    @MarkG-gb6nq 16 дней назад +3

    Israel a democracy 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @bestman7776
    @bestman7776 16 дней назад +2

    Settler = land thief
    Let’s not sugar coat it

  • @finklechomsky2992
    @finklechomsky2992 16 дней назад +2

    *When the Grandchildren of Joseph Goebbels can write articles on New York Times, I will believe my 2 days old poop has more value than the American press*

  • @addyhadmelike655
    @addyhadmelike655 16 дней назад +4

    This was "How to prove your debate opponent's argument" by 'Piers's Other Guest'

  • @user-zi8qe6tf9f
    @user-zi8qe6tf9f 16 дней назад +5

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    • @s.bk.655
      @s.bk.655 16 дней назад

      Assalamu Alaikum dearest sister I pray to Allah that he provides you with halal RIZK for your whole family and may He grant Jannah to your father who died and may Allah comfort your hearts minds and souls Ameen

  • @lacolocha75
    @lacolocha75 16 дней назад +1

    Jeez that guy brings whole new realms of meaning to the word ‘smug’

  • @The_Voice_of_Reason748
    @The_Voice_of_Reason748 16 дней назад +1

    They claim they're from the Middle East but they don't sound Middle Eastern