REVIEW: DG ORIGINAL SOURCE Batch #6 Part 1 - Dvorak (Kubelik) and Grieg (Karajan) with comparisons

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  • Опубликовано: 7 янв 2025

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  • @agarber1932
    @agarber1932 Месяц назад

    Thank you so much for sharing your insights and your love for music. From Canada.

  • @Tojazzer
    @Tojazzer Месяц назад

    Many thanks for your guidance. I've bought quite a few of the Original Source DGs on your recommendations and haven't been disappointed yet. So, I've just ordered the Grieg Peer Gynt and Gulda/Abbado Mozart. Also, I must agree with you about the Ace of Diamond releases. I have a number of them as Canadian pressings (which, sadly, get a bad reputation) and they are spectacular. Special mention to Michael Johnson and Michael Fremer. All of you are remarkable in your expertise and a credit to the music-on-vinyl collective. Sorry to ramble but I must also thank you for the Hovis ad at the end. Brings back so many memories. I especially remember The Two Ronnies' spoof: "Grandad always said t'were a bloody long way to go for a loaf!"

    • @musiconrecord6724
      @musiconrecord6724  Месяц назад

      Ah - the Two Ronnies....!!! I looked it up - hysterical!

  • @iftekherahmad3376
    @iftekherahmad3376 2 месяца назад +1

    Lovely to hear from you again after a long gap. As always, first class video and review. Very sorry to hear about your recent bout of illness , Wish you a swift recovery and back to good health.

    • @musiconrecord6724
      @musiconrecord6724  2 месяца назад

      Thanks so much! Really appreciate you watching and commenting.

  • @joseluisherreralepron9987
    @joseluisherreralepron9987 2 месяца назад +3

    Nice reviews! My go-to version of the Grieg is Fjeldstad on Decca from 1958. It's so startlingly dynamic it will blow out the windows. It's definitely a bit on the bright side during climaxes, probably tape overload. Edit: I paused the video before I got to your recommendation of that recording!

  • @bigtom6939
    @bigtom6939 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks Mark,love your videos. And especially the reviews of the original Source records. Circumstances have me collecting everything on CD and streaming now but I am trying to obtain all the Original Source originals on CD or on Qobuz, in my favorites. Listening to and collecting classical music came am little late to me but at 75 years old I've had a great time for the last 30 years with classic music. Also have to say I really enjoy your comments with the Classical Bums and discussions with Michael Johnson. Please keep up the good work,you are helping me learn a lot.

    • @musiconrecord6724
      @musiconrecord6724  2 месяца назад

      Thanks so much for watching and commenting - and following the Bums livestream! However you choose to experience the music is great - not everyone can afford these records. The important thing is to keep listening and exploring this wonderful music - and I am so happy me and my pals help you do that!

  • @celtic-audiophile
    @celtic-audiophile Месяц назад

    Just ordered the Speakers Corner version will be here on Monday

  • @jamesnordbeck382
    @jamesnordbeck382 2 месяца назад

    Many thanks Mark, I enjoyed this video. I appreciated your sincere and honest review of the Dvorak #9. There are so many recordings available. I do enjoy the Paray/Detroit vinyl recording.

  • @davidchan8108
    @davidchan8108 2 месяца назад

    The Peer Gynt incidental music has always been in my heart as I participated in a stage/drama performance when I was in high school. My go-to performance of the music is the complete version recorded by Decca (on CD only) with the San Francisco Symphony conducted by Herbert Blomstedt.

    • @musiconrecord6724
      @musiconrecord6724  Месяц назад

      Yes - that's a really good one! So many of those Blomstedt/SFSO recordings are really fine.

  • @theophicen7850
    @theophicen7850 2 месяца назад +1

    I enjoyed it very much! Thanks.

  • @fernandolisteburillo8158
    @fernandolisteburillo8158 День назад +1

    Hi, a very good review as always….I have many of these DG new Original source including the Bruckner and Steinberg box sets… However, I am missing a few to complete my collection. DG just released 2nd pressings -not numbered- of these original source records….do you think they will be of inferior sound quality compared to the 1st pressing, numbered ones? I will greatly appreciate your opinion…. Many thanks from Spain!!!

    • @musiconrecord6724
      @musiconrecord6724  День назад

      Sound quality will be identical. Do not hesitate. Also look around on all the different sites - DG in Germany and US (Centerstage and UDiscover), Presto Classical, Amazon...

  • @TrueStereo-
    @TrueStereo- 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for the video and a honest review. Always a pleasure.

  • @Roberjohnson
    @Roberjohnson 2 месяца назад

    I listened to my old copy of the Grieg last night in anticipation of your video coming out today and it sounded great. Like you noted, the recording is better than many other DG albums from this time. I'm sure the original source version sounds even better, but if anyone is looking to save a few pennies I don't think they'll be disappointed buying a used copy of the original record.

    • @musiconrecord6724
      @musiconrecord6724  2 месяца назад +1

      You make a good point - but boy oh boy this new Original Source sounds terrific!

  • @Andrew_from_Oz_Vinyl_Landscape
    @Andrew_from_Oz_Vinyl_Landscape 2 месяца назад

    Thanks Mark, I am always waiting for your videos, sorry you were unwell. The Bamberg D2D sounds interesting but it’s $500 in Australia. I agree on the Kertesz 9th is a killer have the series also. There is a reissue of the earlier Kertesz Decca which is quite reasonable priced!

    • @musiconrecord6724
      @musiconrecord6724  2 месяца назад

      If you've got the Kertesz you're all set. Plus you get the Othello overture. Thanks so much for watching and commenting.

  • @ruhrvalley78tk30
    @ruhrvalley78tk30 Месяц назад

    Nice review, Mark. 👍
    Actually I skipped those two because I already have the Speakers Corner Versions and I'm very satisfied with them. So I took the oppotunity to save some money 😉
    I love the work that Rainer and Sidney do with this series. And it's always fun to guess what the next batch will look like.
    However, I am also someone who hopes that we'll see more non-orchestral or less 'mainstream' recordings to be included in the series in the future.
    Me personally... I hope that the Karajan "Schönberg • Berg • Webern" Box Set will get the Original Source treatment. 🙏

    • @musiconrecord6724
      @musiconrecord6724  Месяц назад +1

      I completely agree, and these sentiments re. repertoire have been communicated to DG by me and others. That Second Viennese School box set? Top of my request list to DG - we shall see (not only has to pass the repertoire test, but also the tapes have to be in good order and pass technical muster). Fingers crossed!

  • @barrybrennan2135
    @barrybrennan2135 Месяц назад

    Hi Mark, thanks for vids. `Can you do a vid on your playback system?

    • @musiconrecord6724
      @musiconrecord6724  Месяц назад +1

      Oh I've been meaning to do that for ages, Soon....

  • @davidgow9457
    @davidgow9457 Месяц назад

    Hi I have these records in original pressings and they sound ok but I will purchase the OSS reissues. The Dvorak raises the interesting question of how DG select records for reissue. In theory it should be audiophile quality records but I can understand if they want to reissue best sellers even if they are not audiophile in terms of the original tape.

    • @musiconrecord6724
      @musiconrecord6724  Месяц назад

      Many factors go into this. I will say that many have said they really like the Dvorak, and it does have many positive qualities. But it just isn't for me...

  • @celtic-audiophile
    @celtic-audiophile Месяц назад

    I bought the Grieg OS and also bought a test pressing direct from DG 1/100

  • @pauldavies6037
    @pauldavies6037 2 месяца назад

    D
    Reminds me of Pateley bridge in Yorkshire the steep narrow road to the top of the village with the collier brass bands

  • @goldthredz
    @goldthredz Месяц назад

    Awesome video, subscribed.

  • @saltech3444
    @saltech3444 2 месяца назад

    I recently got a first/early pressing of that Grieg disc. It cost me fifty Australian cents. Not sure I liked it very much, but maybe I'll listen to it again.

    • @musiconrecord6724
      @musiconrecord6724  Месяц назад

      Well it is very definitely that Karajan sound, which on the original sounds much smoother, more homogenized than on this OS reissue.

  • @mancal5829
    @mancal5829 2 месяца назад

    The New World Symphony is a gorgeous work. However, like yourself, I've listened to it one too many times. A version I'd never heard was Bernstein's on Sony/Columbia. To me, it was revealing, fresh, and it made an impact like no other.

  • @marktubeie07
    @marktubeie07 Месяц назад

    Disappointing to hear your review of the 'New World' as I too was hoping for a better result. I'm awaiting my copy to arrive so hopefully I won't be disappointed...

    • @musiconrecord6724
      @musiconrecord6724  Месяц назад

      I hope you are not too disappointed. I have heard from quite a few who love it. Simply not to my taste, alas.

  • @mickeytheviewmoo
    @mickeytheviewmoo Месяц назад

    Soon as you mentioned Fjeldstad and the Decca Sound my ears pricked up. When Fjeldstad met Clifford Curzon and recorded the Piano Concerto, everything went right. I still don't think that recording has ever been surpassed and every respected pianist has recorded it at least once.

    • @musiconrecord6724
      @musiconrecord6724  Месяц назад +1

      I think I have that one - time for a fresh listen!

    • @mickeytheviewmoo
      @mickeytheviewmoo Месяц назад

      @@musiconrecord6724 Oh yes, please do. Years ago it was renowned as a reference recording but Curzon for some reason has become unjustifiably neglected .

    • @musiconrecord6724
      @musiconrecord6724  Месяц назад +1

      @@mickeytheviewmoo Yup, I have it in an OG wideband Decca pressing. I'd completely forgotten it is Fjeldstad conducting. Earmarked for next non-work-related listening session (up to my ears in Furtwangler right now!)

  • @SonicFlare
    @SonicFlare 2 месяца назад

    Yusssssssssssssss Go go go!!!

    • @musiconrecord6724
      @musiconrecord6724  2 месяца назад

      Who is this!!!!!!????????? 😉😊😃🤣😂😎

  • @matthewweflen
    @matthewweflen Месяц назад

    As someone who owns the Karajan "decade" CD box sets, the Sigurd Jorsalfar is a wonderful highlight of what is a great disc overall. The Peer Gynt is of course well played, but I think the sound quality on their digital remake in 1982 beats it. The B-side there is the Sibelius Pelleas et Melisande.
    You can't go wrong with either disc, really.

    • @musiconrecord6724
      @musiconrecord6724  Месяц назад

      That Pelleas is wonderful - completely unknown music.

  • @celtic-audiophile
    @celtic-audiophile Месяц назад

    And now just bought the Ace of Diamonds from Discogs

  • @jennifermartin8628
    @jennifermartin8628 2 месяца назад

    Thanks, Mark. Very well done indeed, as always. Cheers!

  • @RafaelGarciaMarquez
    @RafaelGarciaMarquez Месяц назад

    Great review as usual. I'm buying every release of every batch and find this 6th batch the least successful one. Kubelik and Gulda/Abbado pressings are pretty disappointing sonically.
    Thanks for posting this.

  • @mickeytheviewmoo
    @mickeytheviewmoo 2 месяца назад

    Many thanks Mark. Love your videos. You missed the ultimate classic though at the end. ruclips.net/video/DJi_5T0jSnA/видео.htmlsi=0Y2Vf8upGpR7b3Xt

    • @musiconrecord6724
      @musiconrecord6724  2 месяца назад +1

      Oh man - this really takes me back!!!! So glad you posted this - I was dying....!!! Two Ronnies Forever!!!!

  • @heifetz6382
    @heifetz6382 Месяц назад

    Galway's participation is for me a a major disadvantage. His nervous, non-germanic tone never blends well with the other woodwinds of the Berlin Phil...

    • @musiconrecord6724
      @musiconrecord6724  Месяц назад

      It's definitely a distinctive sound, and I know what you are driving at (although Karajan clearly loved the Galway sound). On this particular record I find his sound a perfect match for the feel of the music.

  • @idoireallydo
    @idoireallydo Месяц назад

    It is /ˈkɪʁçə/ not kirke.

    • @musiconrecord6724
      @musiconrecord6724  Месяц назад

      I did my best....!!! But thanks for the correction.

    • @idoireallydo
      @idoireallydo Месяц назад

      @@musiconrecord6724 No worries ✌. Sorry for sounding so patronizing, didn't quite realise that while writing.

    • @musiconrecord6724
      @musiconrecord6724  Месяц назад

      @@idoireallydo Can't guarantee i'll get it right next time - but I'll try!

  • @thomasroth4533
    @thomasroth4533 Месяц назад

    The whole Kubelik Dvorak cycle has horrible sound. It's all lacking in bass and the worst is No 7. For some strange reason this marred his Mahler cycle as well. You mentioned how Decca and EMI often recorded in Kingsway Hall and they were almost always excellent. So it is quite ironic that the last recording made there was Puccini's Manon Lescaut with Sinopoli for Deutsche Grammophon. A marvellous performance and recording.

    • @davidgoulden5956
      @davidgoulden5956 Месяц назад +1

      Agree with you about the cool uninvolving sound DG gave to Kubelik in his Dvorak and Mahler cycles. It is (for me, at least) a serious obstacle to enjoyment.

    • @musiconrecord6724
      @musiconrecord6724  Месяц назад +1

      Alas, 'tis true. Those Mahler records were amongst the first Mahler records I bought and I was instantly turned off by the sound. Apparently that more distant perspective on the Dvorak cycle was very much at the instigation of Kubelik himself. (As is so often the case, conductors should leave well alone and let the engineers do their thing).

    • @musiconrecord6724
      @musiconrecord6724  Месяц назад +1

      I'm a big Sinopoli fan, and now I will pull that one off my shelves.