Reasons not to buy a land Rover? My mechanic screamed at me not to buy one, then he changed his mind and wanted me to buy one as he wanted to fund a house purchase in Spain!!
I’ve had little trouble with mine since I bought it,but the customer service isn’t very good when you do have an issue,takes them ages to sort a part or find a solution to the problem.
If you go online and search land rover parts issues, you’ll see loads of info, they setting up some new warehouse which has caused further backlogs/ etc
There's horror stories out there of people getting insurance quotes of over £25,000 for various Land Rover vehicles. That's absolutely terrifying. The modern day Range Rover is fast becoming like the GTi of the late 80s and early 90s. My father once got a quote of £21,000 to insure an Escort Cosworth in the early 90s. The car was worth £18,000 at the time. He ended up trading it in against a Porsche 911 (964) because it was cheaper to insure. Hundreds, rather than tens of thousands.
I know a guy who has a range rover sport and it costs more to insure than his Lamborghini Aventador 😂😂but water off a ducks back for him tbh he still pays it
You guys live in another world, I got quoted £28k for a 2005 BMW 120d. My first year was 2.8k and I was happy with that. Older drivers don't realise how lucky they were with insurance prices back in the 80-90s.
The ‘underlying’ issue with R/R is availability of parts. R/R’s are being stolen, chopped up and shipped to countries where parts for R/R are scarce, let alone affordable. Much cheaper and profitable, for organised crime to steal these cars and ship abroad. I forecast R/R prices continue to fall until new security & tracking installed, as well as faster acting dedicated police. Just my opinion.
Not just the theft problem Calvin, they're unreliable and expensive to repair. A lot of people that can now afford them due to their price wouldn't actually be able to maintain and repair it. But they are awesome when they're working.
Had a test drive in a RRS HSE SDV6. Fabulous drive, stunning inside. Came with a 2 year warranty. So put a £500 deposit down. Went home rang around for insurance and could not get insured. Was stunned, mid life bloke, full no claims. £500 deposit returned. Bought an RS4, fully comp £575. Mind bending.
@@shubobtv having thought about it I would imagine it wasn’t the price that meant he couldn’t get insured but insurance companies were just not insuring them full stop due to the amount of RRS thefts that are happening at the moment.
Not surprised with the sketchy reliability, thefts, and high running costs of them that values are down. They are sold for peanuts at auctions too. Owning a car which loses you money and scared to leave on your driveway, must be great lol.
I could not agree more. You want a car to work when you need it too. Why do people tolerate this ineptitude from JLR? It's insane? Evoque, Jaguar, Velar, Range rover, Epace, Fpace.....all complete shite. To add insult to injury, it empties your wallet faster than a pick-pocketing hooker. PLEASE STOP BUYING THIS CRAP.
@@bobmartin5101 it’s just a status thing, if someone has it, it’s a copy cat and domino effect. The Evoque does nothing a normal hatchback can do yet costs way more and looks hideous.
You feel a certain way driving range rovers, it’s always been the go to car for wealthy people to daily without drawing as much attention as you would in a Rolls Royce for example. As for the car itself, you do get a premium feeling, they look better than everything else in its class.
@@bobmartin5101just shows once youve built a reputation people will keep buying no matter how shit the product gets, they are willing to get burnt many times before they even consider a different brand, its like the Iphone affect, doesnt matter how good the competition is people will just buy it because of the name
I’ve had one Discovery 4 and three Discovery 5’s. Never had a problem and done 100K miles in each. Constant servicing at main dealers or reputable specialists helps I think. As soon as someone tries saving by taking to a shoddy garage and the cars don’t get the proper treatment they go wrong and never recover it seems. My experience with LR customer service has been brilliant.
We use them nationwide hence the mileage. Generally running 2 at once. Never once let us down. Just my experience chaps and no I don’t work for Landrover.
I knew a gang that sold fake faraday pouches on eBay that have no affect, so the theives know the buyers address, and know they have a non-functioning faraday pouch, quite clever really
If they could improve the reliability these things would sell like crazy. They already do, but even more people would buy. The design is incredible. Some of the modern Jaguars have proven to be quite reliable. Not sure why they can’t reproduce that with these.
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The main problem with the key secure box is that if the thieves are determined to steal the car they will break into the house to steal the key which is scary.
Bought an SVR tried insure it in brum was uninsurable even tried dads name 50+ no accident claims points clean with max ncb best quote was 18k ended up selling at loss as range prices are just dropping so badly
Totally agree. Indian JLR products are total junk. Why does anyone living in and around London need a boat anchor of a 4x4 anyway?? The stigma of ownership is enough😅
I do like the RR sport & full fat, I wouldn't touch the 3.0 Diesel with a barge pole due to the crank snapping issues (Same on D4), I would get the 5.0 V8 Petrol version, much more reliable. As for insurance I did a quote the other day and it was over £1300 for a 5.0 V8 RRS (not SVR) for me living in Wiltshire so not a big city ! for £500 less insurance I could get an Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio. I own 2 Landrovers now, but I would get the Alfa..
Calvin your weeks behind everyone elses 1200 rangerovers stolen last week ,britain has gone mad no one will insure a range or land rover now ,the quote was £6000 for my L322 LAST MONTH .Its going next week .mY bmw E38 740I ,Just insured it 12 months fully comp with Adrian flux £595 ,for the year all done .
Did you shop around? My L322 was insured with Adrian Flux, was £480 but renewal offer was over £1k. Now with Aviva it was £400 including breakdown cover. My Defender with a 480hp LS is with AF too, went from £300 down to £114… I was shocked, all gone mad! Both done in last couple months
I go to Auctions probably 2/3 times a month , ive noticed cars not even making reserve lowest ive seen a 15 plate RR sport Autobiography with 85,000 miles.went for £13 grand this was at Manheim leeds about 2 weeks ago.
There must be RR owners whose insurance expires next month and know resale values have tanked, who are desperately parking it in dodgy places with no CCTV hoping and praying it gets nicked.
Nice looking motor that Calvin. Like the grey and black. Ive got a 2004 Vouge parked up in dry storage. Use it for towing and family holidays. Been great in this snow today. Quality vehicles if you look after them
I will give you a cheaper option to the key box. Use a metal travel mug. Works exactly the same. I have tried it with a ford ranger a 3008 and a toyota hilux and you can put the key in the travel mug right next to car and still not get in.
I just got shot of my Sport after just owning it for 6 months, I’ve lost a fortune and got out while I still could. Was doing insurance quotes out of interest, more than doubled. It’s a shame, as I loved my Rangey so much! Such a nice car.
Loved my blacked out 2016 RR Sport (unfortunately only had the SDV6)! Didn't have any problems with it whatsoever. Just remember the oil change every 6-6.5k miles.
Have a Disco with SDV6 never had a problem service it and get it checked. Most engines go I think because a lack of care and maintenance most of the time.
problem with ghost alarms traker etc is if the car is under warranty still landrover wont touch it if an electrical problem as my friend found out with his rangerover and and new defender
They will touch it! I work for JLR and have loads of cars in with ghosts fitted. If the electrical problem is found to be down to the ghost alarm we tell the customer that the ghost needs to be removed by who ever fitted it. Thats it. We dont hit them with a big bill for time spent on the car due to an aftermarket part causing the fault, which we could because technically its not covered under warranty. So many scaremongering stories going round its like Chinese whispers
I've got a BMW 440i that I'm looking to trade in for an SUV. The insurance quote for a 2016 RR vogue was £2800. (My 2018 440i is £650) Rural location 🤷🏻♂️
In answer to your question they’re going to RHD and central African countries - Kenya etc. there’s stolen RRs driving round Nairobi and Mombasa with just the Kenyan plate taped half over the UK one 😂. A few I’ve seen they’ve just chopped the front off to get the engine block - can fit more in a shipping container
It's same up north. Its not just major cities. People are struggling to insure them, we have had so many people come in and trade their range rovers due to insurance premium doubling if they are able to get insurance and the theft of these cars it's up and down the country
I get the security tips, but if the thieves cant remote access the car they may choose to break into your house to get the keys. Think i would prefer them to just take the car and not put my family at risk of assault.
Folks I know had theirs lifted onto a low loader as it was parked on their st, directly in front of their house. They now have an X7 . It doesn’t matter the devices you have , if a valuable car is in the street, then its easily nickable as far as crooks are concerned. They will find a way 😢
2019 svr owner. JLR now laughing stock amongst uk car industry. They don't care about their customers, no respect, totally ignorant. A backlash is gathering momentum, bigger than I've ever observed before. JLR can be described as fallen asleep at the wheel! Communication below 3rd world standards. The CEO should be ashamed of himself, obviously in the wrong job, should immediately resign and become a MP, preferably in the cabinet team, should blend in perfectly!
Me & the mrs insurance went up £250 in September , we did shop around but just had to pay it. No changes in our circumstances, & I’ve just gone & checked the current prices for a renewal & it’s gone up another £250 despite having full NCB. And to be fair we live in a village 50 miles away from London so maybe we’re lucky to get insurance at all. Also the value of the car has dropped to about £10k Couldn’t get the same car 6 months ago for less than £15k To be fair we bought the car for £19k 4 years ago, so held its money for quite some time, but that’s just how it goes. Don’t think we’ll bother with a Land Rover again , probably go back to an Audi .
It IS that bad. 6 got stolen in one night in my area including our velar. Keyless entry was off and key was in a faraday pouch. What they are doing now is following people and as you lock/unlock your car they hijack the signal and make their own key. So they rock up with a ready made key these days. Regarding a ghost I would prefer they take the car rather than someone be tempted to gain access to my house.
They also go in through the boot even with keyless disabled. My mate's Discovery was taken this way. Drilled through the boot where the tracker is, yanked out the wiring, climbed through, plugged into the OBD port for a minute to a code a new key, starter up and drove off. Took less than 2 minutes.
small hybrid japanese petrol automatics 50mpg + are more desirable now and going up in value , these big uk/german diesel cars are for the scrapyard now
Great video . lots of doom and gloom about Range Rovers , Im on my 4th one , only 1 of them proved unreliable but it had done 150k and was 7k , have to maintain them well and i always use shell v power or bp ultimate and they are trouble free. Great cars if you dont want a race car
I've been watching a specific Approved Used Range Rover. In the past 6-8 weeks, it's dropped from £8,000. 69 plate car. My insurance is higher than it was to insure the equivalent car 8 years ago, but it isn't horrific when you factor in what I pay to insure my current Evoque. Though the renewal for that car is currently looking to be higher than it was when I got it 7/8 years ago :o
I’m just commenting on the video at 8:56 where it shows the mileage at 88 then next mileage is 87 . Don’t know where car vertical get the info from but i was just making an observation from the video footage .
Doesn't help JLR have brought the Parts Distribution side of the business to a standstill with its complete failure in reorganization of the supply side to dealers, Absolute Joke of a Company Unfortunately.
Some are stolen for parts, some for export, some for insurance jobs when people no longer want to fix/insure them. Most of it boils down to them being expensive and unreliable.
We are back in the 70s or 80s with car theft. If you have considered high gates at the front of your house, that is another option. If the thieving bastards can’t see your Range Rover, they don’t know where it is to come back later and want it
I’ve had no less than 5 people I know who’ve had an Evoce, 3 bought their company car after the lease, 2 bought new. All 5 have had catastrophic engine failures that have cost them thousands! Another 2 mates have Disco’s.. both have cost them thousands also in faults. I wouldn’t have one given simple as that.
Never been keen on the old Ghost immobilisers. Feel that if someone really wants your car whats to stop them putting a gun to your head for the code The Pandora system atleast lets the car move far enough away from your home and family and then shuts down the car. Good video overall tho! 😁👍
this is shame for workers in birmingham/solihull if this slows sales , JLR have been aware of the problem for years but have done nothing until recently , it is mind boggling they make such advance expensive cars but security is a 2nd thought , they should fit trackers and ghost alarms factory fitted
Its been the same with a few of the brands over the years. The usual line of thinking is leave it as long as possible because when more go missing you can sell more again. Its a disgrace that there isn't better legislation around this.
Have a hybrid plug in Range Rover Autobiography, stunning car, had it 4 months 2019 plate still haven’t filled it up with fuel, it’s been running on electric most of the time 😊
Foe sure Range Rovers are lovely cars, they're getting stolen "cos" the people stealing them have found a way to get what they want without putting in the hard work. Cheers for another good vid.
That’s the 3.0 that people max themselves on and then can’t afford the oil changes. The 4.4 with an every 5K flush no crankshaft issues. The 5.0 none at all. Just the timing chain. People buy them who can’t afford to maintain them. Not saying they’re reliable but that’s 50% of the problem.
Boo Hoo if the insurance if going up and the value is going down. They are mostly used in city environments where they just clog up the roads. They are not necessary for the majority of motorists. I live in the country and I don’t need one.
I got mine and my wife’s Faraday pouch (for each key) from eBay for £5 for 2 pouches and they work fantastic. Now we have a Faraday box and house both of our main keys every night when we go to bed.
I have a 2016 hybrid Sport, daily drive it alot, only had small issues, my wife's BMW has had more problems, and I own the car here I'm Portugal where the price of a range rover is more than double of the UK
I’m looking at RR Velar’s. 18 plates are averaging around the £21 - £25k price wise. Are these judged to be as temperamental as the RR Sport? The Velar looks awesome and it’s been a wish of mine for a long time to get one but I won’t if they’re as problematic as the Sport in all the ways spoken about in this vid.
To me Range Rovers are fascinating cars, in that so many people loathe and detest them as being the most unreliable and overrated vehicles out there, BUT an EQUAL number of people defend them to the Max and talk of years of ownership with zero problems, and how wonderful to drive and own they are. All vehicles have their lovers and haters, but none in the numbers that Range Rover vehicles have.
As that RR seemed to do more miles during lockdown perhaps one of its previous owners was a former political adviser to the Govt who had trouble with his eyesight! 😂
I had Honda Crv ...then I bought a JLR product....OMG the build quality was terrible...the A pillar trim literally fell off when fitting the dashcam wiring ..had the car 2 weeks and hated in ..px it for an Audi a6 , after a Q7 and now A7 ..I'm converted to Audi...I really like the look of RR sports but i cannot justify having to put money aside for when it will definitely break
I think the Luton airport fire has had a negative effect on Range Rovers. I haven’t checked, but I’d suspect that the older, diesel only Range Rovers are holding their prices better.
They are ace, typical of London area its a all bad.. up north, no issues with them getting stolen or insurance issues. Me.. im in the proper north.. £450 and they are just awesome machines class off road, just service them more often and treat them well. Most issues come from the majority of folk that can't afford to have them serviced regularly as on the payments limit.... off road they are the absolute best.
Thinking about an SVR... I know the pros... What cons should I be looking out for?... I'm good for the obvious things Petrol, service insurance etc etc... I'm interested to know things that are known to go wrong...
The epitome of failure... JLR 22:12 just a sinking ship, not made a profit since 2017, woeful reliability and poor build quality. Now add ridiculous insurance premiums for what is essentially a slow brick and values plummeting isn't remotely surprising...
Say what you want nothing looks or drives as well as a range rover I have a 2014 sport had it 5 years had 30,000 when I got it now done 84000 2 problems earth wire behind off side front wheel arch and rear diff seal that's it prices are still holding here Lancashire has been a great car I heard range rover are going to recall cars to sort security ,only problem if your selling private is supplying a warranty ,
My mates Discovery was stolen this year the same way. Drilled through the boot, yanked out the wiring which disables the tracker, climbed through and sat there for a minute plugged into the OBD port, assume they coded a new key and it started up and drove off.
Insurance. Mine went from £300 to £850 because they made them so easy to steal. Best thing to do is buy a pedal lock box. You ain’t nicking it if the pedals don’t work
Hi guys, as a Brit’, I want to support British manufacturing- even though Jaguar Landrover is owned by the Indian company TATA. However these cars are such money pits, I would never put my own money into one. We have a friend with one, she loves it, but spends more time in a curtesy car than in her own. A neighbour had on for 2 years before giving up on it after huge garage bills, including a transmission failure at 76k miles.
They did pal, that’s why there’s a lot more Lexus, Audi Qs and Volvo suvs on the road..they are not as luxurious but at least it’s not Christmas 🎄 on the dash each week..
Land Rover should be liable for all of this. Shameful they way they have performed, not only from a security point of view, but a product quality viewpoint.
So if I drop £55k on a RR 2020 5.0sc AB it’s a good deal? I can’t decide if I should wait a bit or buy now given the JLR security recalls are happening? Got no major insurance issues where i am. You can’t even get to where I live without hiking or in a decent 4x4 and scallies are gonna get either savaged by dogs or my Colombian Grandma gonna be out with a shotgun before they get near the car. Anyway idk if it’s actually an ok time to buy if you don’t live in London or Manchester. Insurers adjustments will probably lag by 18 months.
I brought my daughter a 2015 sport, both of us on the insurance and it’s £115 a month.. we live in Norfolk.. think that is pretty reasonable… paid £25k in June, nice spec in white with ivory leather interior, I’d say already lost £3k on it but who cares.. she can drive that thing into a tree at 50mph and probably get out and walk away.. 👍👍👍
Never been interested in a RR but must admit this one looks lovely, but car vertical is showing a mileage discrepancy going from 88,852 and then drops to 87,579 , could be that someone inputted the mileage wrong on a MOT with their fat fingers but it would require alot more checking to confirm this mistake , have seen it before but receipts for services and parts confirmed the real mileage but i don’t think you can get it changed back with dvsa .
No mileage discrepancy on the DVLA mot history check, you must be using car vertor similar they include servicing visits to the main dealer and when people do a Hpi check so the exact mileage is not always inputed
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This car is now sold.
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Which back's up everything you said about demand still there
Reasons not to buy a land Rover? My mechanic screamed at me not to buy one, then he changed his mind and wanted me to buy one as he wanted to fund a house purchase in Spain!!
I’ve had little trouble with mine since I bought it,but the customer service isn’t very good when you do have an issue,takes them ages to sort a part or find a solution to the problem.
I phoned my mechanic JLR and he immediately said to me the familiar sentence to do with a "bargepole" 😂
One factor thats not mentioned, regarding the increasing theft is some are nicked to break for spares. There has been a shortage of parts since covid.
And who's fault was that ?
@bigal2417 He didn't say it was anyone's fault just making a point 👍
If you go online and search land rover parts issues, you’ll see loads of info, they setting up some new warehouse which has caused further backlogs/ etc
If this was the case.... fast fords like fiesta st would be cheap as chips most stolen cars in uk 🤷♂️
The main point being they are crap.
There's horror stories out there of people getting insurance quotes of over £25,000 for various Land Rover vehicles. That's absolutely terrifying. The modern day Range Rover is fast becoming like the GTi of the late 80s and early 90s. My father once got a quote of £21,000 to insure an Escort Cosworth in the early 90s. The car was worth £18,000 at the time. He ended up trading it in against a Porsche 911 (964) because it was cheaper to insure. Hundreds, rather than tens of thousands.
I know a guy who has a range rover sport and it costs more to insure than his Lamborghini Aventador 😂😂but water off a ducks back for him tbh he still pays it
You guys live in another world, I got quoted £28k for a 2005 BMW 120d. My first year was 2.8k and I was happy with that. Older drivers don't realise how lucky they were with insurance prices back in the 80-90s.
I checked whether this was true and got a quote
The ‘underlying’ issue with R/R is availability of parts. R/R’s are being stolen, chopped up and shipped to countries where parts for R/R are scarce, let alone affordable. Much cheaper and profitable, for organised crime to steal these cars and ship abroad. I forecast R/R prices continue to fall until new security & tracking installed, as well as faster acting dedicated police. Just my opinion.
at 90,000 miles this thing is going to be a money pit. They are not built to last and cost a fortune in constantly failing parts
yes mate absolutely rather buy a x5 gle or landcruiser the moost best resalue value extremely reliable
Not just the theft problem Calvin, they're unreliable and expensive to repair. A lot of people that can now afford them due to their price wouldn't actually be able to maintain and repair it. But they are awesome when they're working.
Client bought a 2021 Vogue in April last year for £85k. Last week was valued at £40k 🤢🤮
No matter how wealthy you are, that's gotta hurt
That’s crazy it’s dropped by more than 50%! Wow
85k for a year old Vogue LOL deserves everything they get
@Luckyjo21 in my opinion the 21 shape is better than the current one.
That much?
Had a test drive in a RRS HSE SDV6. Fabulous drive, stunning inside. Came with a 2 year warranty. So put a £500 deposit down. Went home rang around for insurance and could not get insured. Was stunned, mid life bloke, full no claims. £500 deposit returned. Bought an RS4, fully comp £575. Mind bending.
How much were they quoting for insurance on the Sport?
£4.5K @@thejudderman8265
@@thejudderman8265I'm curious to know too!
@@shubobtv having thought about it I would imagine it wasn’t the price that meant he couldn’t get insured but insurance companies were just not insuring them full stop due to the amount of RRS thefts that are happening at the moment.
@thejudderman8265 hmm interesting point. Shame theft is so high by these low life thiefs.
Not surprised with the sketchy reliability, thefts, and high running costs of them that values are down. They are sold for peanuts at auctions too. Owning a car which loses you money and scared to leave on your driveway, must be great lol.
I could not agree more.
You want a car to work when you need it too.
Why do people tolerate this ineptitude from JLR? It's insane?
Evoque, Jaguar, Velar, Range rover, Epace, Fpace.....all complete shite.
To add insult to injury, it empties your wallet faster than a pick-pocketing hooker.
PLEASE STOP BUYING THIS CRAP.
@@bobmartin5101 it’s just a status thing, if someone has it, it’s a copy cat and domino effect. The Evoque does nothing a normal hatchback can do yet costs way more and looks hideous.
You feel a certain way driving range rovers, it’s always been the go to car for wealthy people to daily without drawing as much attention as you would in a Rolls Royce for example. As for the car itself, you do get a premium feeling, they look better than everything else in its class.
I don't know about peanuts mate?
@@bobmartin5101just shows once youve built a reputation people will keep buying no matter how shit the product gets, they are willing to get burnt many times before they even consider a different brand, its like the Iphone affect, doesnt matter how good the competition is people will just buy it because of the name
I’ve had one Discovery 4 and three Discovery 5’s. Never had a problem and done 100K miles in each. Constant servicing at main dealers or reputable specialists helps I think. As soon as someone tries saving by taking to a shoddy garage and the cars don’t get the proper treatment they go wrong and never recover it seems. My experience with LR customer service has been brilliant.
So you’ve had 3 discovery 5s and done 100k in each that sounds like waffle to me
And you work for Landrover.
We use them nationwide hence the mileage. Generally running 2 at once. Never once let us down. Just my experience chaps and no I don’t work for Landrover.
Some people just don’t like facts and experiences like those.
Got a discovery 4 no issues in 5 years love it
I knew a gang that sold fake faraday pouches on eBay that have no affect, so the theives know the buyers address, and know they have a non-functioning faraday pouch, quite clever really
Who are they
@@haider7866 Dunno, made it up, but would be a great idea
@@123MondayTuesdayso you didn’t know a gang then? You fucking whopper
If they could improve the reliability these things would sell like crazy. They already do, but even more people would buy. The design is incredible. Some of the modern Jaguars have proven to be quite reliable. Not sure why they can’t reproduce that with these.
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Welcome sir and thank you 🙏🏼
The main problem with the key secure box is that if the thieves are determined to steal the car they will break into the house to steal the key which is scary.
Bought an SVR tried insure it in brum was uninsurable even tried dads name 50+ no accident claims points clean with max ncb best quote was 18k ended up selling at loss as range prices are just dropping so badly
The best way to stop one getting stolen, don’t buy one in the first place.👍
Best way to not be homeless is to just buy a house......I'm just using your logic.
poor analogy, no comparison in the two statements "facepalm"@@miamitten1123
@@miamitten1123 not all homes are heaps of shit like these
Totally agree.
Indian JLR products are total junk. Why does anyone living in and around London need a boat anchor of a 4x4 anyway??
The stigma of ownership is enough😅
Great, not worth the grief, get a nice BMW.
I do like the RR sport & full fat, I wouldn't touch the 3.0 Diesel with a barge pole due to the crank snapping issues (Same on D4), I would get the 5.0 V8 Petrol version, much more reliable. As for insurance I did a quote the other day and it was over £1300 for a 5.0 V8 RRS (not SVR) for me living in Wiltshire so not a big city ! for £500 less insurance I could get an Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio. I own 2 Landrovers now, but I would get the Alfa..
The 2.0L Ingenium one goes pop regularly too.
5L petrol is nice, but a different world of fuel cost..
@@G-ra-ha-m Yup I run a Disco 3 4.4 V8 but on LPG so it's a bit cheaper but at least I know the oil pump won't fail or the crank snap.
@@trollmanrs After the first crank snap or Ingenium suicide out of warranty, fuel costs don't look so bad anyway :D
very true ! @@G-ra-ha-m
I have a 3.0 diesel Disco 4 with 80k, no trouble at all. Fantastic for wafting over broken and potholed country roads
Calvin your weeks behind everyone elses 1200 rangerovers stolen last week ,britain has gone mad no one will insure a range or land rover now ,the quote was £6000 for my L322 LAST MONTH .Its going next week .mY bmw E38 740I ,Just insured it 12 months fully comp with Adrian flux £595 ,for the year all done .
Did you shop around? My L322 was insured with Adrian Flux, was £480 but renewal offer was over £1k. Now with Aviva it was £400 including breakdown cover. My Defender with a 480hp LS is with AF too, went from £300 down to £114… I was shocked, all gone mad! Both done in last couple months
@@AlexLR i am the master of shopping around my E38 740i is £500 a year fully comp my daily driver .
I go to Auctions probably 2/3 times a month , ive noticed cars not even making reserve lowest ive seen a 15 plate RR sport Autobiography with 85,000 miles.went for £13 grand this was at Manheim leeds about 2 weeks ago.
Can you pick me up a car? Willing to give you something for your time
There must be RR owners whose insurance expires next month and know resale values have tanked, who are desperately parking it in dodgy places with no CCTV hoping and praying it gets nicked.
Nice looking motor that Calvin. Like the grey and black. Ive got a 2004 Vouge parked up in dry storage. Use it for towing and family holidays. Been great in this snow today. Quality vehicles if you look after them
Insurance premiums are not just increasing London and Manchester. Outside glasgow x3 from last year £ (not travelling to city centre)
I will give you a cheaper option to the key box. Use a metal travel mug. Works exactly the same. I have tried it with a ford ranger a 3008 and a toyota hilux and you can put the key in the travel mug right next to car and still not get in.
That's a great idea !
I just got shot of my Sport after just owning it for 6 months, I’ve lost a fortune and got out while I still could. Was doing insurance quotes out of interest, more than doubled. It’s a shame, as I loved my Rangey so much! Such a nice car.
how much did you lose ?
Seeing all the stuff online about the engines terrifies me, I’d love to own though!
Loved my blacked out 2016 RR Sport (unfortunately only had the SDV6)! Didn't have any problems with it whatsoever. Just remember the oil change every 6-6.5k miles.
Not surprised 41k and the crank snapped and 9 gearbox faults in 18 months absolutely shite car .
Have a Disco with SDV6 never had a problem service it and get it checked. Most engines go I think because a lack of care and maintenance most of the time.
@@supradan666 is surprising with the gearbox. The zf box is used in BMW's and some vag stuff and is usually very reliable.
if it said peugeot on it with all the same parts youd hate it tho
For 20k it’s a lovely motor, private plate on there and will look bang up to date👍🏻
Massive difference between the facelift RR sport/Vogue and this
not massive lol you can add the facelift mods yourself @@KnowledgeSeeker999
problem with ghost alarms traker etc is if the car is under warranty still landrover wont touch it if an electrical problem as my friend found out with his rangerover and and new defender
They will touch it! I work for JLR and have loads of cars in with ghosts fitted. If the electrical problem is found to be down to the ghost alarm we tell the customer that the ghost needs to be removed by who ever fitted it. Thats it. We dont hit them with a big bill for time spent on the car due to an aftermarket part causing the fault, which we could because technically its not covered under warranty. So many scaremongering stories going round its like Chinese whispers
I've got a BMW 440i that I'm looking to trade in for an SUV.
The insurance quote for a 2016 RR vogue was £2800. (My 2018 440i is £650)
Rural location 🤷🏻♂️
Keep the 440i or get the X3 M40i
@@bars1512 I want something suitable for UK winter roads that doesn't drink fuel like an alcoholic lol
Skoda yeti
@@bars1512 😂
Just spoke to a car dealer friend in Southend.
Just renewed his car dealer insurance. One exclusion, he can no longer have cover for Range Rovers!
Fuck… if a car dealer can’t even get insurance what hope do the rest of us have?!?
I was speaking to a guy not so long ago and he has an Range Rover svr and says it costs him more to insure than his McLaren 😂😂
Not that silly the range rover is going to be doing a lot more millage
In answer to your question they’re going to RHD and central African countries - Kenya etc. there’s stolen RRs driving round Nairobi and Mombasa with just the Kenyan plate taped half over the UK one 😂. A few I’ve seen they’ve just chopped the front off to get the engine block - can fit more in a shipping container
It's same up north. Its not just major cities. People are struggling to insure them, we have had so many people come in and trade their range rovers due to insurance premium doubling if they are able to get insurance and the theft of these cars it's up and down the country
I get the security tips, but if the thieves cant remote access the car they may choose to break into your house to get the keys. Think i would prefer them to just take the car and not put my family at risk of assault.
Folks I know had theirs lifted onto a low loader as it was parked on their st, directly in front of their house. They now have an X7 .
It doesn’t matter the devices you have , if a valuable car is in the street, then its easily nickable as far as crooks are concerned. They will find a way 😢
2019 svr owner. JLR now laughing stock amongst uk car industry. They don't care about their customers, no respect, totally ignorant. A backlash is gathering momentum, bigger than I've ever observed before. JLR can be described as fallen asleep at the wheel! Communication below 3rd world standards. The CEO should be ashamed of himself, obviously in the wrong job, should immediately resign and become a MP, preferably in the cabinet team, should blend in perfectly!
Me & the mrs insurance went up £250 in September , we did shop around but just had to pay it.
No changes in our circumstances, & I’ve just gone & checked the current prices for a renewal & it’s gone up another £250 despite having full NCB.
And to be fair we live in a village 50 miles away from London so maybe we’re lucky to get insurance at all.
Also the value of the car has dropped to about £10k
Couldn’t get the same car 6 months ago for less than £15k
To be fair we bought the car for £19k 4 years ago, so held its money for quite some time, but that’s just how it goes.
Don’t think we’ll bother with a Land Rover again , probably go back to an Audi .
It IS that bad. 6 got stolen in one night in my area including our velar.
Keyless entry was off and key was in a faraday pouch.
What they are doing now is following people and as you lock/unlock your car they hijack the signal and make their own key.
So they rock up with a ready made key these days.
Regarding a ghost I would prefer they take the car rather than someone be tempted to gain access to my house.
They also go in through the boot even with keyless disabled. My mate's Discovery was taken this way. Drilled through the boot where the tracker is, yanked out the wiring, climbed through, plugged into the OBD port for a minute to a code a new key, starter up and drove off. Took less than 2 minutes.
small hybrid japanese petrol automatics 50mpg + are more desirable now and going up in value , these big uk/german diesel cars are for the scrapyard now
Poverty nation now
Great video . lots of doom and gloom about Range Rovers , Im on my 4th one , only 1 of them proved unreliable but it had done 150k and was 7k , have to maintain them well and i always use shell v power or bp ultimate and they are trouble free. Great cars if you dont want a race car
So there's a 25% chance a Range Rover will be unreliable 😮
I bought one in May and today its lost 22k in value. Aboslutely gutted!
😢 ouuufff
buy a land cruiser V8 D-4D next time, mines has went up 2k
I've been watching a specific Approved Used Range Rover. In the past 6-8 weeks, it's dropped from £8,000. 69 plate car. My insurance is higher than it was to insure the equivalent car 8 years ago, but it isn't horrific when you factor in what I pay to insure my current Evoque. Though the renewal for that car is currently looking to be higher than it was when I got it 7/8 years ago :o
I’m just commenting on the video at 8:56 where it shows the mileage at 88 then next mileage is 87 . Don’t know where car vertical get the info from but i was just making an observation from the video footage .
The engine problems with that TDV6 are very worrying, my 2016 very well serviced RRS crank failed at 50k……… £13k repair bill at main dealer.
The Ingenium engines are far worse than the V6 diesels they fail at a far higher rate.
My Velar D300 was knocking like a gud un at 42k miles. Full dealer history.
Earlier this year there was around 3-5 L405 RRs available under £20k, all high mileage or molested or non-runners. Last time I checked there was 96!
Do you think if I wait abit I might be able to get one for 10k? Running and with a long mot
yes just lowball a desperate seller @@haider7866
Great vid…. The misses loved Range Rover sport but had to get rid once the insurance went from 200 a month to nearly 700….. bonkers
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Doesn't help JLR have brought the Parts Distribution side of the business to a standstill with its complete failure in reorganization of the supply side to dealers, Absolute Joke of a Company Unfortunately.
The whole used car market is plummeting, have you seen the Porsche taycans? £130k new and now sub 50k 💀
Haha yep apparently to drop to 40k soon
Electric cars are a whole different story.
Yea that’s really sad to see. Nobody can afford to lose this much money on an asset. I hope Taycans can recover from it 🤞
Some are stolen for parts, some for export, some for insurance jobs when people no longer want to fix/insure them.
Most of it boils down to them being expensive and unreliable.
Noticed on the CV report that the mileage goes from 88852 miles to 87579 miles. I thought I was just seeing things but just replayed video at 8:57
We are back in the 70s or 80s with car theft. If you have considered high gates at the front of your house, that is another option. If the thieving bastards can’t see your Range Rover, they don’t know where it is to come back later and want it
I’ve had no less than 5 people I know who’ve had an Evoce, 3 bought their company car after the lease, 2 bought new. All 5 have had catastrophic engine failures that have cost them thousands! Another 2 mates have Disco’s.. both have cost them thousands also in faults.
I wouldn’t have one given simple as that.
I work at a car dealership in part exchange, the amount of negative equity I’ve seen in the last month from JLR customers alone is mind bending
The RR is not Ulez compliant so that would be a major reason to have sold it if commuting into Londob
Never been keen on the old Ghost immobilisers. Feel that if someone really wants your car whats to stop them putting a gun to your head for the code
The Pandora system atleast lets the car move far enough away from your home and family and then shuts down the car. Good video overall tho! 😁👍
this is shame for workers in birmingham/solihull if this slows sales , JLR have been aware of the problem for years but have done nothing until recently , it is mind boggling they make such advance expensive cars but security is a 2nd thought , they should fit trackers and ghost alarms factory fitted
Its been the same with a few of the brands over the years. The usual line of thinking is leave it as long as possible because when more go missing you can sell more again.
Its a disgrace that there isn't better legislation around this.
Doesn’t affect the new models
Have a hybrid plug in Range Rover Autobiography, stunning car, had it 4 months 2019 plate still haven’t filled it up with fuel, it’s been running on electric most of the time 😊
Foe sure Range Rovers are lovely cars, they're getting stolen "cos" the people stealing them have found a way to get what they want without putting in the hard work. Cheers for another good vid.
The crankshaft issue can't be ignored
That’s the 3.0 that people max themselves on and then can’t afford the oil changes. The 4.4 with an every 5K flush no crankshaft issues. The 5.0 none at all. Just the timing chain. People buy them who can’t afford to maintain them. Not saying they’re reliable but that’s 50% of the problem.
Boo Hoo if the insurance if going up and the value is going down. They are mostly used in city environments where they just clog up the roads. They are not necessary for the majority of motorists. I live in the country and I don’t need one.
I got mine and my wife’s Faraday pouch (for each key) from eBay for £5 for 2 pouches and they work fantastic. Now we have a Faraday box and house both of our main keys every night when we go to bed.
I've just bought 2 for 6 quid on eBay and yea they work perfectly
I have a 2016 hybrid Sport, daily drive it alot, only had small issues, my wife's BMW has had more problems, and I own the car here I'm Portugal where the price of a range rover is more than double of the UK
Really that much double. I'll take mine to Lisbon and sell it 😂
I’m looking at RR Velar’s. 18 plates are averaging around the £21 - £25k price wise. Are these judged to be as temperamental as the RR Sport? The Velar looks awesome and it’s been a wish of mine for a long time to get one but I won’t if they’re as problematic as the Sport in all the ways spoken about in this vid.
To me Range Rovers are fascinating cars, in that so many people loathe and detest them as being the most unreliable and overrated vehicles out there, BUT an EQUAL number of people defend them to the Max and talk of years of ownership with zero problems, and how wonderful to drive and own they are. All vehicles have their lovers and haters, but none in the numbers that Range Rover vehicles have.
As that RR seemed to do more miles during lockdown perhaps one of its previous owners was a former political adviser to the Govt who had trouble with his eyesight! 😂
I’m interested in buying that Range Rover, where can I find it online?
It’s sold already mate
Faraday key box... argos... cheap and you can test it on your lap in the car and you can't use start stop.... Best £25.00 I've spent 👍
Can’t imagine having to lock my car key in a box EVERY TIME you are done driving 😂 😭
@conorf8091 especially after so much money 😂
Worst car ever made. Land Rover build quality is shocking.
I had Honda Crv ...then I bought a JLR product....OMG the build quality was terrible...the A pillar trim literally fell off when fitting the dashcam wiring ..had the car 2 weeks and hated in ..px it for an Audi a6 , after a Q7 and now A7 ..I'm converted to Audi...I really like the look of RR sports but i cannot justify having to put money aside for when it will definitely break
So it is.
Dripping roast comes to mind
I reckon Citroens are worse
Funny thing is I don’t actually disagree and I own a 2013 XF.
am surprised no heads up on windscreen, l thought all autobiography was fitted, l must be wrong?
Yea that’s not very common at all.
Maybe people are tightening there belts
The car sits with the dealers then more on your drive soon as you come to start it it seems to have some problems
I think the Luton airport fire has had a negative effect on Range Rovers. I haven’t checked, but I’d suspect that the older, diesel only Range Rovers are holding their prices better.
What about the common crankshaft snap problem?
Those all steel filing cabinets are great for putting keys in.
They are ace, typical of London area its a all bad.. up north, no issues with them getting stolen or insurance issues. Me.. im in the proper north.. £450 and they are just awesome machines class off road, just service them more often and treat them well. Most issues come from the majority of folk that can't afford to have them serviced regularly as on the payments limit.... off road they are the absolute best.
Thinking about an SVR... I know the pros... What cons should I be looking out for?... I'm good for the obvious things Petrol, service insurance etc etc... I'm interested to know things that are known to go wrong...
Was about to buy one a few months ago and then decided not to. My current LR Disco tripled in insurance 😢
Sold mine, insurance took the piss, loved the car but went from £900-£3000 in one year…
The epitome of failure... JLR 22:12 just a sinking ship, not made a profit since 2017, woeful reliability and poor build quality.
Now add ridiculous insurance premiums for what is essentially a slow brick and values plummeting isn't remotely surprising...
Why does the car vertical show the mileage drop? It goes from 88,582 to 87,579...
Say what you want nothing looks or drives as well as a range rover I have a 2014 sport had it 5 years had 30,000 when I got it now done 84000 2 problems earth wire behind off side front wheel arch and rear diff seal that's it prices are still holding here Lancashire has been a great car I heard range rover are going to recall cars to sort security ,only problem if your selling private is supplying a warranty ,
i put my keys in my wifes box ,no one is going in there its fish ,
The way they do it is drill a hole in the boot and they have full cases to the wiring loom start up straight away open up
My mates Discovery was stolen this year the same way. Drilled through the boot, yanked out the wiring which disables the tracker, climbed through and sat there for a minute plugged into the OBD port, assume they coded a new key and it started up and drove off.
Very good keyless entry and car key box advice👌
Petrol is only ones in these i buy even there not cracky ive had 6 now 2 sport 4 vogue
Insurance. Mine went from £300 to £850 because they made them so easy to steal.
Best thing to do is buy a pedal lock box. You ain’t nicking it if the pedals don’t work
Keep your keys in a Faraday cage for keys, blocks the key signal.
Hi guys, as a Brit’, I want to support British manufacturing- even though Jaguar Landrover is owned by the Indian company TATA. However these cars are such money pits, I would never put my own money into one. We have a friend with one, she loves it, but spends more time in a curtesy car than in her own. A neighbour had on for 2 years before giving up on it after huge garage bills, including a transmission failure at 76k miles.
Calvin did you have the car in sport mode when doing the 0 to 70 runs?
I live just outside London, got quotes £8,500 for my Range Rover renewal. Sold the car and brought a Cayenne instead 👌🏼 Drives better tbf
👀I’m truly baffled that no one has really challenged Land Rover over these diabolical issues 4real.
They did pal, that’s why there’s a lot more Lexus, Audi Qs and Volvo suvs on the road..they are not as luxurious but at least it’s not Christmas 🎄 on the dash each week..
@@Dulla99 Re: OK
I love my Range Rover but had to learn how to fix it myself can’t afford garage prices
Land Rover should be liable for all of this. Shameful they way they have performed, not only from a security point of view, but a product quality viewpoint.
Did the mileage go down on the car vertical graph?
How do you do the car spec check?
Will this start to apply to jaguar's as well as my friend has got a 2019 f pace.
So if I drop £55k on a RR 2020 5.0sc AB it’s a good deal? I can’t decide if I should wait a bit or buy now given the JLR security recalls are happening? Got no major insurance issues where i am. You can’t even get to where I live without hiking or in a decent 4x4 and scallies are gonna get either savaged by dogs or my Colombian Grandma gonna be out with a shotgun before they get near the car. Anyway idk if it’s actually an ok time to buy if you don’t live in London or Manchester. Insurers adjustments will probably lag by 18 months.
My SVR is about 1500 fully comp with admiral
I brought my daughter a 2015 sport, both of us on the insurance and it’s £115 a month.. we live in Norfolk.. think that is pretty reasonable… paid £25k in June, nice spec in white with ivory leather interior, I’d say already lost £3k on it but who cares.. she can drive that thing into a tree at 50mph and probably get out and walk away.. 👍👍👍
Never been interested in a RR but must admit this one looks lovely, but car vertical is showing a mileage discrepancy going from 88,852 and then drops to 87,579 , could be that someone inputted the mileage wrong on a MOT with their fat fingers but it would require alot more checking to confirm this mistake , have seen it before but receipts for services and parts confirmed the real mileage but i don’t think you can get it changed back with dvsa .
No mileage discrepancy on the DVLA mot history check, you must be using car vertor similar they include servicing visits to the main dealer and when people do a Hpi check so the exact mileage is not always inputed
They have defeated ghost immobilisers and similar systems … lots of cases out there now.
I haven’t heard of a single case of a ghost being beaten.