I actually like these stories of teams in their very first years of operation. The Dolphins had humble beginnings before they went on to have their perfect 1972 season and the great career of Dan Marino much later.
I have an older friend that said they didn't even bother buying tickets. They would just walk around the stadium when they were teens and just find a hole in fence to crawl through.
If this teen tried to do this today at Hard Rock Stadium, security would’ve immediately thrown the puck out and bar him from ever coming to a Dolphin game. You got to wonder if his parents even knew about this
i'm gonna assume (and might be correct, unless there were incidents i don't know about) that the afl/nfl made sure extra guards were there for the game.
@@CTubeMan, Jimmy Cagney, and Karnack the Magnificent would've liked that cognac right after they took a Contact, the tiny time-release cold medicine, taking it incognito..
I had some friends break into Ohio Stadium at night in 2003 and try to kick 35 yard field goals with the Columbus phone book. They duct taped the books shut, though. One of my roommates broke his foot.
I went to Notre Dame Stadium with no adult supervision in 1974, when I was 11 and my friend was 10. But ND had more than adequate security, and we didn’t bring phone books. The field had white spots, but that’s because it snowed (on October 19). Two nits: NBC didn’t televise this game-in fact, there was no live TV at all. And attendance was barely over 38,000, which was the highest for any Dolphins home game in their first three seasons. Only two 1969 Dolphins home games had bigger crowds, topped by their AFL finale against the Jets at over 42,000. Attendance shot up in the Shula years.
As was the 1989 game in MILE HIGH STADIUM. Windy conditions, and who knows what else caused that. One thing about it.. BYNER fumbled because he was stripped of the ball by JEREMIAH CASTILLE, not because a piece of paper, etc, knocked the ball out of his hands..and.. the recovery was almost instantaneous by CASTILLE..so paper did not play a part there, either.
I always thought the bigger Orange Bowl controversy was NOT tarping the field before the 1982 AFC championship game; leaving the field a rainy muddy mess. Don Shula claimed that as the city owned the stadium, Miami should've provided the tarp. Jets coach Walt Michaels called bullshit on that.
I never knew how poorly the Dolphins were run in their AFL days. The OB's security was some of the worst I've ever heard of. That kid could've gotten someone hurt.
Another Orange Bowl controversy that people may not know about involves the Miami Toros of the NASL. Just before the start of the 1973 season, the Toros had finally found somewhat of a quality stadium to play their home matches in the Orange Bowl after having spent the previous season playing home matches at the awful North Campus Stadium of Miami Dade College. However because the Orange Bowl had primarily been a football venue up to that point, no one on the stadium grounds crew knew how to set up the field for soccer & this resulted in a soccer field with all of the football markings still left on it. The only way people could tell the Orange Bowl was being used for soccer was the goals & the corner flags as everything else was covered by football markings. Not surprisingly many opposing teams, the Toros themselves along with the referees had a very difficult time figuring out when the ball went out of bounds so much so that one referee literally had to use orange spray paint & paint out the soccer field markings over the football field before a game. The remarkable thing about this is that the Toros spent 3 seasons playing on a field like this before moving their home games to Tamiami Field (a much more suitable venue for soccer) for the 1976 season. As for the Orange Bowl, it would play host to USMNT matches (where the US only won twice), matches for the 1996 Olympics & matches for the Gold Cup when it came to soccer.
I know some people from that era who are definitely NOT apologetic about ANYTHING they did back then. I barely remember the era myself (moon landing being one of the earliest vague memories of mine).
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made videos about the following: 1. What the coach who oversaw this dysfunction, George Wilson, said about his successor, Don Shula, before Super Bowl 6. 2. How Chiefs fans caused trouble on Thanksgiving Day the next year.
In that first year of 1966, the Dolphins were so shorthanded at QB that the coach used his son (George Wilson Jr) at that position. Luckily in the next draft the Fins drafted Bob Griese to solve that problem..
C'mon, man! The amount of paper on the Orange Bowl gridiron for that game was nothing compared to a typical Argentine soccer match which usually involves a blizzard of confetti and streamers. More times than not, a third of the pitch is covered with paper and eventually dispersed to the opposite half by the wind.
Seems the biggest attraction at the Orange Bowl in those days was their mascot-Flipper (yes, from the TV show of the same name). Flipper would swim in a tank in the east end zone and when the Dolphins would score an extra point or FG and the ball went in the tank, Flipper would jump up and flip the ball back towards the field. This, if you will, was a precursor to Ace Ventura and Snowflake the Dolphin..and yes, most of the football scenes for that movie were filmed at the Orange Bowl.
To give you an idea of how this team was run in the '60s, they signed Manny Fernandez only because he had a Spanish surname and they figured he'd relate well to south Florida's Hispanic population and would bring in more of those fans. Because his last name was Fernandez of course he was fluent in Spanish, right? Turns out...he didn't speak a word of it. Oops. You'd think somebody would've done a simple background check on this. Or, you know, just ASKED him. Somehow it all worked out.
The Dolphins were a third-year expansion team. That year, they ended up having an 5-8-1 record, their best up to that point. The record they had in their first season was 3-11.They improved to 4-10 in 1967. So with their record in 1968, they won one more game than the prevoius season for the second-straight year.
Tampering to get Shula (and yes, that's exactly what happened no doubt about it) was SO worth it. Much more clear case of tampering than the NFL saying "Brady called you, and your owner mentioned Sean Payton's name a couple of times, so we have to punish you because Brian Flores is suing you for stuff." BTW last time I checked Aaron Rodgers was still under contract to the Packers, but somehow the Jets openly courting him for 2 months isn't tampering? Riiiight. 🙄
No it wouldn't. Only problem was when the elder Rosenbloom came back from a trip (during which Steve Rosenbloom gave permission), he denied allowing this. The commish, Pete Rozelle, had to step in..ultimately the Dolphins gave up their 1971 first round pick (the 1970 draft having already taken place) for Shula.
Other taking a step back in 1969, the Dolphins were a model expansion franchise…setting a records for wins in their first season, and improving the next two years…
Ironic that if Don Shula’s Colts hadn’t lost to the Jets, at the Orange Bowl nonetheless, the Dolphins may never have had the chance to hire Shula a year later.
Shula wins SB III and he stays with the Colts at least until Irsay gets control of the team (1972). Who knows about the Fins? Or the Colts? Maybe they are still in Baltimore?
If you told Dolphins fans in 1968 they were four years away from a perfect season they probably would have thought you were crazy
I'm convinced you could basically do anything in the 60's. It's like the cops were substitute teachers.
I actually like these stories of teams in their very first years of operation. The Dolphins had humble beginnings before they went on to have their perfect 1972 season and the great career of Dan Marino much later.
I have an older friend that said they didn't even bother buying tickets. They would just walk around the stadium when they were teens and just find a hole in fence to crawl through.
If this teen tried to do this today at Hard Rock Stadium, security would’ve immediately thrown the puck out and bar him from ever coming to a Dolphin game. You got to wonder if his parents even knew about this
I can confidently say that the parents never knew their child did this.
The Snowplow Game wasn't a fan, it was a convict on a work furlough.
With the lax security it’s surprising the Orange Bowl hosted back-to-back Super Bowls during that timeframe.
Including this particular season: the Namath upset.
i'm gonna assume (and might be correct, unless there were incidents i don't know about) that the afl/nfl made sure extra guards were there for the game.
@JerseyDevilGMan You earned a Cognac for that!
@@CTubeMan, Jimmy Cagney, and Karnack the Magnificent would've liked that cognac right after they took a Contact, the tiny time-release cold medicine, taking it incognito..
I had some friends break into Ohio Stadium at night in 2003 and try to kick 35 yard field goals with the Columbus phone book. They duct taped the books shut, though. One of my roommates broke his foot.
Genius move
@@thomascrowley9122 I was home that weekend. It was my three roommates and one of their girlfriends.
@@thomascrowley9122Karma
Hope it hurt..hellishly so..
I went to Notre Dame Stadium with no adult supervision in 1974, when I was 11 and my friend was 10. But ND had more than adequate security, and we didn’t bring phone books. The field had white spots, but that’s because it snowed (on October 19). Two nits: NBC didn’t televise this game-in fact, there was no live TV at all. And attendance was barely over 38,000, which was the highest for any Dolphins home game in their first three seasons. Only two 1969 Dolphins home games had bigger crowds, topped by their AFL finale against the Jets at over 42,000. Attendance shot up in the Shula years.
6:05 Argentina 1978 World Cup soccer fans: HOLD MY BEER!!!
That brought a whole new meaning to phoning it in
BAH DUM TCH!
If it was the Yellow Pages..
LET'S YOUR CLEATS DO THE WALKING..
9:37 articles with language you can't show
9:20 article with uncensored n-word
Just imagine what you can't show.
The field during the "Ernest Byner fumble game" was curiously littered as well.
As was the 1989 game in MILE HIGH STADIUM.
Windy conditions, and who knows what else caused that.
One thing about it..
BYNER fumbled because he was stripped of the ball by JEREMIAH CASTILLE, not because a piece of paper, etc, knocked the ball out of his hands..and..
the recovery was almost instantaneous by CASTILLE..so paper did not play a part there, either.
Use 5 phone books to help put your feet up higher on one of the lounge chairs by the Jaguars’ pool
Security at this stadium did worse than if they'd just spiked the ball on every play.
They didn't really have security then
I always thought the bigger Orange Bowl controversy was NOT tarping the field before the 1982 AFC championship game; leaving the field a rainy muddy mess.
Don Shula claimed that as the city owned the stadium, Miami should've provided the tarp. Jets coach Walt Michaels called bullshit on that.
I've seen some bad playing fields before. This was beyond pitiful.
I never knew how poorly the Dolphins were run in their AFL days. The OB's security was some of the worst I've ever heard of. That kid could've gotten someone hurt.
One for the record books, or at least one for the phone book
Another Orange Bowl controversy that people may not know about involves the Miami Toros of the NASL. Just before the start of the 1973 season, the Toros had finally found somewhat of a quality stadium to play their home matches in the Orange Bowl after having spent the previous season playing home matches at the awful North Campus Stadium of Miami Dade College. However because the Orange Bowl had primarily been a football venue up to that point, no one on the stadium grounds crew knew how to set up the field for soccer & this resulted in a soccer field with all of the football markings still left on it. The only way people could tell the Orange Bowl was being used for soccer was the goals & the corner flags as everything else was covered by football markings. Not surprisingly many opposing teams, the Toros themselves along with the referees had a very difficult time figuring out when the ball went out of bounds so much so that one referee literally had to use orange spray paint & paint out the soccer field markings over the football field before a game. The remarkable thing about this is that the Toros spent 3 seasons playing on a field like this before moving their home games to Tamiami Field (a much more suitable venue for soccer) for the 1976 season. As for the Orange Bowl, it would play host to USMNT matches (where the US only won twice), matches for the 1996 Olympics & matches for the Gold Cup when it came to soccer.
It makes me wonder what that teenager, who is an old man by now, thinks of what he did back here in 1968. I hope he regrets doing that stupid thing...
I know some people from that era who are definitely NOT apologetic about ANYTHING they did back then. I barely remember the era myself (moon landing being one of the earliest vague memories of mine).
No fingers were doing the walking to pick up those pages!
Little does JG9 know (or maybe he knows) that the STEELERS were in that position as well before Chuck Noll was made coach
I've seen highlights of this game multiple times and always wondered why that field was so littered
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made videos about the following:
1. What the coach who oversaw this dysfunction, George Wilson, said about his successor, Don Shula, before Super Bowl 6.
2. How Chiefs fans caused trouble on Thanksgiving Day the next year.
In that first year of 1966, the Dolphins were so shorthanded at QB that the coach used his son (George Wilson Jr) at that position. Luckily in the next draft the Fins drafted Bob Griese to solve that problem..
Those wacky 1968 teen hijinks! Good thing teens would become much more well-mannered and better behaved in the 55 years since...
C'mon, man! The amount of paper on the Orange Bowl gridiron for that game was nothing compared to a typical Argentine soccer match which usually involves a blizzard of confetti and streamers. More times than not, a third of the pitch is covered with paper and eventually dispersed to the opposite half by the wind.
Apparently, security just basically phoned it in that night.
The expansion era of the Browns is still in it's germinal dysfunctional stage.
Seems the biggest attraction at the Orange Bowl in those days was their mascot-Flipper (yes, from the TV show of the same name). Flipper would swim in a tank in the east end zone and when the Dolphins would score an extra point or FG and the ball went in the tank, Flipper would jump up and flip the ball back towards the field. This, if you will, was a precursor to Ace Ventura and Snowflake the Dolphin..and yes, most of the football scenes for that movie were filmed at the Orange Bowl.
5:22-the classic passer rating line.
PS interesting you used a modern Marlins game for comparison. Loan Depot Park is on the old Orange Bowl site.
To give you an idea of how this team was run in the '60s, they signed Manny Fernandez only because he had a Spanish surname and they figured he'd relate well to south Florida's Hispanic population and would bring in more of those fans. Because his last name was Fernandez of course he was fluent in Spanish, right? Turns out...he didn't speak a word of it. Oops. You'd think somebody would've done a simple background check on this. Or, you know, just ASKED him. Somehow it all worked out.
Fernandez talked about that in the "America's Game" video on the undefeated '72 team.
And if they snuck in phone books imagine how much booze went through those gates!
That seemed to happen a lot in those days
The Dolphins were a third-year expansion team. That year, they ended up having an 5-8-1 record, their best up to that point. The record they had in their first season was 3-11.They improved to 4-10 in 1967. So with their record in 1968, they won one more game than the prevoius season for the second-straight year.
The Orange Bowl was a dump! Saw Marino beat the Cowboys in '84 and it was an open sewer
Literally a dump miami was built on a swamp
$1 back then is about $8.50 in today's money, so for $10, would be easy for a carload of kids to go and include parking in that.
Kids do this stuff at high school games now
Kids do this stuff in high school classrooms now. And adults are not allowed to do anything about it because "policy".
Tampering to get Shula (and yes, that's exactly what happened no doubt about it) was SO worth it. Much more clear case of tampering than the NFL saying "Brady called you, and your owner mentioned Sean Payton's name a couple of times, so we have to punish you because Brian Flores is suing you for stuff."
BTW last time I checked Aaron Rodgers was still under contract to the Packers, but somehow the Jets openly courting him for 2 months isn't tampering? Riiiight. 🙄
I liked that Carroll Rosenbloom's kid gave Joe Robbie permission to talk to Don Shula.
That's hilarious.
Would it be tampering if the team gives permission?
No it wouldn't. Only problem was when the elder Rosenbloom came back from a trip (during which Steve Rosenbloom gave permission), he denied allowing this. The commish, Pete Rozelle, had to step in..ultimately the Dolphins gave up their 1971 first round pick (the 1970 draft having already taken place) for Shula.
At 6:35, Great Googily Moogily!
That field is so white it's already released a country album.
Other taking a step back in 1969, the Dolphins were a model expansion franchise…setting a records for wins in their first season, and improving the next two years…
I really miss the Oilers
Ironic that if Don Shula’s Colts hadn’t lost to the Jets, at the Orange Bowl nonetheless, the Dolphins may never have had the chance to hire Shula a year later.
Hired one year later, no later than Dec. 1969(?) to begin work in WINTER/SPRING 1970?..
Shula wins SB III and he stays with the Colts at least until Irsay gets control of the team (1972). Who knows about the Fins? Or the Colts? Maybe they are still in Baltimore?
You take 11:25 to get to the point.
The security issues weren’t the Dolphins fault, it was the city of Miami who ran the Orange Bowl.
What's a phone book?
Miami did not exist in 1960. They joined the AFL in 1966.
Correct. I said the Dolphins of the 60s
I became a DolFan through my granddad, who lived in south Florida. Before they existed he was actually a Giants fan.
Miami coming into next season possibly will he a team to watch for good reason
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