Overhyped: Legends And Frauds

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  • Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2024

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  • @RGBAnarchy
    @RGBAnarchy Месяц назад +196

    Meanwhile they all pay the rent with something they love to do.

    • @RaineyDaysStudio
      @RaineyDaysStudio Месяц назад +12

      That’s a pretty common defense, but I don’t think an individual’s bankroll is the best place to look when judging their musical ability.

    • @RGBAnarchy
      @RGBAnarchy Месяц назад +3

      @@RaineyDaysStudio Half of these guys in the video are judged in a band setting, do you know what edge is capable of, sitting at home, when bono is not around?, cause I dont. Also doing the same thing more than once as a musician AKA copying yourself use to be called a style.

    • @JoaoFigueiredo-sc7fi
      @JoaoFigueiredo-sc7fi Месяц назад +3

      Guess who cannot take an opinion ....

    • @RaineyDaysStudio
      @RaineyDaysStudio Месяц назад

      @@JoaoFigueiredo-sc7fi What's the opinion?

    • @RaineyDaysStudio
      @RaineyDaysStudio Месяц назад +4

      @@RGBAnarchy I don't disagree with anything you say here, but I'm not sure what I said was addressed in a meaningful way. I still don't think an individuals financial status is an indicator of their skill with the instrument. Isn't Buckethead broke?

  • @shawnok1
    @shawnok1 Месяц назад +192

    There is no best, or overrated. People like what they like. Completely subjective

    • @michaelkarlsson5966
      @michaelkarlsson5966 Месяц назад +11

      taste is subjective, yes, but the technical side can be judged objectively, no doubt. Can they play? What can they play? How do they sound? Do they fit the style of music they play etc. Can they craft songs?

    • @russlund2507
      @russlund2507 Месяц назад +9

      @@michaelkarlsson5966 still subjective.

    • @pete7164
      @pete7164 Месяц назад +11

      ​@@russlund2507Technique is not subjective

    • @orlock20
      @orlock20 Месяц назад +6

      Rolling Stone Magazine putting Kurt Cobain at 88 on its list of 250 greatest guitarists is suspicious though.

    • @KenTeel
      @KenTeel Месяц назад +2

      @@pete7164 Your words, in this last sentence, are ponder worthy. Yes, technique can almost be measured mathematically. It doesn't mean that technique is necessarily aestheically pleasing (beautiful), but it does mean that a recognition of a skill, is rational. I like that: "Technique is not subjective."

  • @nelsono4315
    @nelsono4315 Месяц назад +69

    when he was alive Gary Moore could go toe to toe with anyone you mentioned. Gary was VERY proficient in fusion, rock, and blues. He was no one trick pony. Clearly Gary never got the proper recognition he deserved.

    • @jaimetenorio8016
      @jaimetenorio8016 Месяц назад +8

      Gary Moore even played ripping metal with Corridors of Power

    • @atomicwedgie8176
      @atomicwedgie8176 Месяц назад +3

      Just like Alex Lifeson... they can play anything.

    • @robonguitarnz
      @robonguitarnz Месяц назад +5

      Gary was the man, legendary career!

    • @nelsono4315
      @nelsono4315 Месяц назад +1

      @@robonguitarnz my number 1 six-stringer

    • @welshsapien1714
      @welshsapien1714 Месяц назад

      In the fields made me pick up a guitar. Still love it.

  • @willdenham
    @willdenham Месяц назад +26

    I'm not sure The Edge wanted to be considered a shredder or even a guitar hero. He's really more of a composer who performs within his band.

    • @volvotis753
      @volvotis753 Месяц назад +1

      I’ve grown more of a respect for him over the years, still dont get the appeal of the explorer for him.

    • @jdfleo8140
      @jdfleo8140 29 дней назад

      You misspelled poser!

    • @PickettMusic
      @PickettMusic 20 дней назад

      I honestly can't imagine the musical landscape without 80s era Edge. I don't think he's running for guitar hero status...just super-creative signature parts and approaches.

    • @willdenham
      @willdenham 20 дней назад +1

      @jdfleo8140 How is the Edge a 'poser'?There's literally nobody like him.

  • @christyler6234
    @christyler6234 Месяц назад +49

    There are people that honestly think SRV is overrated? That man had a technique that made the guitar come to life and give its soul away to the listener that only the greats can do. His songs were memorable and are still attempted to be duplicated, often times without success. I once saw a video where a guy went through and showed the pieces that he saw as important to SRV’s sound and he would play adding together what he described and even towards the end of that video you could see that there was something missing, that it wasn’t SRV playing because he was something absolutely special. It’s is a crime to think of SRV as overrated. God gave him so much talent and sadly only allowed him to utilize for a short period.

    • @rbssls
      @rbssls Месяц назад +15

      Whoever says SRV is overrated has clearly never attempted to play SRV accurately or even close…

    • @garyt3hsna1l82
      @garyt3hsna1l82 Месяц назад +3

      I Can play srvs catalog in my sleep texas flood, double trouble, all of it easy. it does get monotonous hitting open e string every note on pride and joy. Doesn’t do much for me anymore.

    • @guitarmeetsscience
      @guitarmeetsscience  Месяц назад +3

      You nailed it on the head - and as I was scouring through doing research I was surprised by how many times SRV's name came up. That's pretty much what pushed me over the top to do this video. I had to set the record straight in that one

    • @vladimirbogosavljevic8039
      @vladimirbogosavljevic8039 Месяц назад +2

      @@rbsslsi m able to play almost anything after allot or less prqctice dependable what is about… but SRV … no matter how i try and put effort , i cannot use right hand his way and it simply sounds not right …

    • @ckmoore101
      @ckmoore101 Месяц назад +4

      @@rbssls Whoever says SRV is overrated is stupid.
      Fixed it for you.

  • @delanoarts3703
    @delanoarts3703 Месяц назад +62

    People who say hendrix is over rated are one word IDIOTS Jimmy absolutely blew everyone away the best of the best were under him in those days if he lived it would be 10 times that

    • @guitarmeetsscience
      @guitarmeetsscience  Месяц назад +2

      Absolutely right!

    • @TokeyTheBear_AOE
      @TokeyTheBear_AOE Месяц назад +7

      In my opinion most people can't separate skill from innovation.
      Hendrix was one of, if not the most innovative players of all time. There are only a few players in an genre that you can directly credit major industry wide changes.
      That being said, my opinion is he was technically deficient and sloppy.
      That doesn't change the fact that any modern rock/metal fans have Jimi to thank among only a few others.

    • @danielkokal8819
      @danielkokal8819 Месяц назад +2

      @@TokeyTheBear_AOE he WAS sloppy. but he did things on the guitar
      no one ever thought of before. he made sounds no one ever heard
      from a guitar. he ignored convention, his fingers just seemed to roam
      the fretboard and he followed. unique.

    • @jhandle4196
      @jhandle4196 Месяц назад

      Yeah, but what about Jimi? He had an extensive vocabulary, and invented a few words too.

    • @Winstonrodney6989
      @Winstonrodney6989 Месяц назад

      Hendrix said Terry Kath was one of the best guitar players of the time. I still think Hendrix was one of the best but it shows that there were some other really good players at the time.

  • @marcos061059
    @marcos061059 28 дней назад +8

    Clapton's work in Cream and Derek & the Dominoes was extremely ground breaking and original. Not so much in his later career.

  • @mikelachey824
    @mikelachey824 Месяц назад +15

    Kirk Hammet's problem is that most of what they credit him for musically. Was really Cliff.

  • @oliver6582
    @oliver6582 Месяц назад +20

    When I think of Dolly Parton....not really thinking about her wigs....🍒...🤔

  • @frankmathiesen1779
    @frankmathiesen1779 Месяц назад +17

    Great guitarist and underrated not mentioned
    Ritchie Blackmore
    Gary Moore
    Rhandy Roads
    Rory Gallagher
    Steve Morse
    Frank Marino
    Ronnie Montrose
    Billy Gibbons
    Jake E Lee
    Robin Trower
    Uli Jon Roth
    John Sykes
    Paul Kosoff
    Al Di Meola
    Tony Iommi
    Ted Nugent
    Alvin Lee
    Michael Shenker
    Leslie West
    Alex Lifeson
    Scott Henderson
    Yngwie Malmsteen
    John Mclaughlin
    George Lynch

  • @ernestporee3697
    @ernestporee3697 Месяц назад +23

    Glad jazz is a place for guitar... Santana is a survivor! From the 60s till now! From rock to fusion, his modern suff is a result of this kid market that we have now ...

  • @rynoriffs1984
    @rynoriffs1984 Месяц назад +14

    What some call overrated others call The G.O.A.T'. Music is subjective and relative to the individual, music is not a competition, it's Art.

  • @d-fresh901
    @d-fresh901 Месяц назад +79

    John Mayer being not overrated vs Santana being overrated is pretty wack lol

    • @chadpittman3025
      @chadpittman3025 Месяц назад +5

      Younger people aren't hip to Santana

    • @gs3-o4f
      @gs3-o4f Месяц назад +4

      Yeah neither are overrated

    • @theshapeexists
      @theshapeexists Месяц назад +16

      Santana isn't very good. Sorry. A 16 year old can play all of Santana's stuff it's so easy. I've been playing almost 30 years and STILL can't play Neon by Mayer the way he does. Mayer has major fingerboard dexterity, and full knowledge of theory. Santana has played the same basic box pattern blues licks since the 60s.

    • @danielnapper8905
      @danielnapper8905 Месяц назад

      @@theshapeexiststruths

    • @thomascolic8977
      @thomascolic8977 Месяц назад +7

      ⁠@@theshapeexistsjust because the stuff he plays is easy and isnt shredding and doing screams on a whammy bar doesn’t mean he isn’t good

  • @mallardtheduck406
    @mallardtheduck406 Месяц назад +3

    -Bruce Kulick
    -Jake E. Lee
    -Reb Beach
    -John Sykes
    -Warren DiMartini
    Just a few very underrated guitarists.

  • @papablue3015
    @papablue3015 Месяц назад +22

    I've been playing guitar for 50ish years! No hits! No fame! No big money! They must be doing something right!? Thanks 🤘

    • @guitarmeetsscience
      @guitarmeetsscience  Месяц назад

      Rock on!

    • @maestroaxeman
      @maestroaxeman Месяц назад +2

      30'ish years here🎶🎸☝️
      Same scenario.
      I've switched gears to songwriter lately.
      The WORST ASPECT of "the industry":
      GATEKEEPERS
      There's more insult that occurs in the songwriting aspect from gatekeepers than anything.
      Bring something to the table and the responses are usually "no" for reasons of:
      "You're not famous like so&so"
      "This one doesn't sound like what so&so wrote"
      "Go listen to so&so to get an idea of what sells"
      What those equivalent to
      "Jr. High Poetry Champs"
      fail to understand is:
      "Music Is What Feelings Sound Like"
      The Art of Expression is lost in commercialism...to the likes of Taylor "Not-So-Swift"🤔🎶🙄☝️

    • @christofthedead
      @christofthedead Месяц назад

      @@maestroaxeman you're doing commerce & complaining about music, that's conflation my guy

  • @trevorclarey3336
    @trevorclarey3336 27 дней назад +3

    Jimi Hendrix was not just a guitarist he was a force of nature in the day that people lived in black & white & grey , on first seeing him it was like WOW the way he played people weren't playing guitar like that the way he looked was far out still listen to him today still great .

    • @Darrylizer1
      @Darrylizer1 17 дней назад

      As far as guitar is concerned there is BH guitar and AH guitar. Before Hendrix and After Hendrix.

  • @thekivster
    @thekivster Месяц назад +27

    I don’t think Santana is overrated. If you listen to his first 4 albums and live material he’s extremely good.

    • @arturomorettmorett9598
      @arturomorettmorett9598 Месяц назад +7

      Santana music is just amazing, I don´t he heard his music in deep, he´s not about shredding, he is about creating beautiful music

    • @PickettMusic
      @PickettMusic 20 дней назад

      Absolutely

  • @allanhindmarch7323
    @allanhindmarch7323 Месяц назад +9

    The older you get, the more comfortable in your ways you get. It's harder to be creative with age.

  • @joshpointoh
    @joshpointoh 20 дней назад +4

    Slash made PLATINUM records with at least 3 different bands. Snakepit and Velvet Revolver both sold multi-millions.
    I think he has a blues record that went platinum also, even as it got harder and harder to go platinum.
    I would never put Slash very high on a technical list, but to say he is a one-trick pony would be crazy

  • @rjc7289
    @rjc7289 Месяц назад +5

    Not much into Santana's modern stuff from the Supernatural album onwards, but those first 4 records (Santana, Abraxas, Santana III, Caravanserai) are absolute classics! The way he blended groovy guitar riffs and flamenco-style licks with Latin and African rhythms was just so innovative! Those albums have stood the test of time and still sound fresh today.

    • @MEGAMIGA
      @MEGAMIGA 23 дня назад

      His 70s output is fantastic indeed!

  • @liedgitarrist
    @liedgitarrist Месяц назад +14

    Hammett is the most overrated for me. I just don‘t get it. Of course this is a tatter of maste. Hear what you like!

    • @christineschreiner1584
      @christineschreiner1584 Месяц назад +3

      Agree. Like I mentioned earlier n my comments Metallica must be buying off influencers. I came across a famous drummers list of their greatest drummers, he had Lars on #2.

    • @matiasmoulin2126
      @matiasmoulin2126 Месяц назад +1

      Absolutely. He's the most overrated guitarist in history.

    • @Darrylizer1
      @Darrylizer1 17 дней назад

      @@christineschreiner1584 Lars isn't even number 200.

  • @figdestroyer
    @figdestroyer Месяц назад +41

    I definitely don’t think Zakk is overrated, but his live solo slots absolutely are. The first time I was like hell yeah, the next 10 times I couldn’t wait for it to end and for the band to get back to the songs.

    • @dong9514
      @dong9514 Месяц назад +5

      I didn't think of much of Zakk going by his ozzy material but when I heard him play hendrix, I was very impressed. When I think of it, I can't think of a player who I changed my mind that much over, ever.

    • @guitarmeetsscience
      @guitarmeetsscience  Месяц назад

      Very interesting - I will have to check out some of his Hendricks covers.

    • @samuraicode4264
      @samuraicode4264 Месяц назад +1

      He does that to give Ozzy a breather

    • @graybeardsage
      @graybeardsage Месяц назад +2

      I would highly recommend checking out Zakk Sabbath! He absolutely kills it on the old Sabbath songs keeping the high points of the originals while shredding his a$$ off in typical Zakk fashion. Just saw him on the Experience Hendrix tour and he was incredible. I see Zakk as a fan that became legend and is giving back to the fans keeping music alive that would be long gone and putting his incredible skills to it. Mad respect!

    • @robonguitarnz
      @robonguitarnz Месяц назад

      Personally I agree, he can waffle somewhat, but he's earnt it, he seemed to have got some of that 80s/90s magic back before the pantera thing though.

  • @sinane.y
    @sinane.y 28 дней назад +4

    I feel like it's unfair to rate Carlos Santana without considering his early to mid 70s work, which is probably the most creative period of his career. Albums like Lotus, Barboletta, Welcome or his collabs with giants like John McLaughlin or Alice Coltrane contain some of the most soulful playing ever recorded. At a time when jazz fusion was exploding, he carved himself a place no one else occupied. His own brand of fusion was really special.
    However, his creativity began to diminish in the second part of the decade, and the entire 80s and well into the late 90s he didn't do anything remarkable. Then he found out he could become a multimillionaire by playing the same solo over polished pop songs with moderately famous vocalists lol.

  • @neoaureus
    @neoaureus Месяц назад +6

    Santana INVENTED a new sound. Hispanic blues rock psychedlia....

  • @witoldwitoszekrecords3253
    @witoldwitoszekrecords3253 Месяц назад +10

    I'm sick of hearing Hendrix is overrated because I believe he shouldn't be asessed as a guitarist only, he was too much more than that: a composer, singer, lyricist, sonic visioner. His excellence in each of those artistic fields combined makes him so special, not just his guitar skills alone. I think myself his guitar skills were not as brilliant compared to his unique style of playing and his otherworldly intuition. The art he made was always intriguing and like no other on the planet.

    • @pmsphoto
      @pmsphoto Месяц назад +1

      Calling Jimi Hendrix a guitar player is like calling Miles Davis a trumpet player... Think about it. Always a good comparison in my eyes. People would also do well to remember that Jim was only 27 when he died....

  • @kb7890
    @kb7890 Месяц назад +6

    You’ve called out the Edge as being overrated. What I find interesting is what he has done on guitar is much more unique than everyone else on your list. He doesn’t shred pentatonic nonsense. He’s not working with blues licks. He’s also doing something that hadn’t been heard before, not every innovation is technical. If you value creative breakthroughs, your list would be VERY different. Clearly you value shredding. Like that of Joe B. As someone who values creativity over technique, my list would stand very differently, though I would agree about Santana - just for different reasons.

  • @nrozmx400
    @nrozmx400 Месяц назад +40

    How is Bonamassa not overrated, that was unexpected

  • @soyounoat2814
    @soyounoat2814 Месяц назад +5

    Eric Clapton excelled at producing top grade music, and assembling fantastic bands. I grew up in the 1960s and 1970s, and know his music well. As a guitarist, he was a solid blues rock icon, but never impressed me as an innovator or left me amazed with mind blown. The outtake jams from the Derek & Dominoes sessions in which Clapton and Duane Allman take turns on lead guitar show a sizeable gap with Allman setting the bar out of reach for Clapton. That said, Clapton certainly played far FAR better than I ever have, has my respect, and deserves his place in Rock History.

    • @grandwazoo9112
      @grandwazoo9112 Месяц назад

      I think Clapton played his best when with Cream. In the awesome movie "Beware of Mr Baker", Santana said that Bruce and Baker ( to me the best bassist and drummer, respectively) pushed Clapton into the stratosphere of his playing. And I couldn't agree more. Never heard the D&D sessions, but that was another situation where a great player pushed Clapton's playing. Have to check it out. By the early 80's Clapton rarely put himself in those situations, preferring the comfortable setting to the strenuous.
      It's sad to think of our heroes getting old. Hell, I'm reminded of it every time I look in the mirror!
      Always will be one of the greats to me, and god bless him!

    • @guitarmeetsscience
      @guitarmeetsscience  Месяц назад

      I hear ya! Duane Allman was on another level

  • @gwzirkle
    @gwzirkle Месяц назад +36

    Amen. In fact, Clapton may be the most overrated guitarist ever. I've never heard anything from him that was particularly exciting or compelling or original in any way whatsoever.

    • @anotheryoutubed
      @anotheryoutubed Месяц назад +7

      How are you doing with your success in guitar playing compared to Clapton? No one will ever have any idea about anything you ever played.

    • @SBsoton
      @SBsoton Месяц назад +2

      Isn't he like Bono,an establishment shill,that's what I heard,also explains how some reach the high levels,when their work is just average I'll say.👍🏻

    • @davidmarks5400
      @davidmarks5400 Месяц назад +4

      Back in the 70's, somebody gave me the double live Derek and the Dominoes album. Back then there was the "Clapton is God"thing going on. I just didn't get it. Then I heard Robin Trower's Bridge of Sighs-I definitely got that-along with Hendrix's Electric Ladyland and Band of Gypsies.

    • @thelemonademan6235
      @thelemonademan6235 Месяц назад +3

      I absolutely agree, I saw him in concert in 1985 I almost went to sleep

    • @groove3pro
      @groove3pro Месяц назад +1

      He had to bring in 3 session guitarists to make “Cocaine.” If he was playing all those parts then he would be great. But he didn’t.. And he’s not. JJ Cale was better.

  • @chrislawson7983
    @chrislawson7983 Месяц назад +2

    Thanks for sharing.
    To each his own. But for me every player that has ever lived and living are great. Seeing that drive in a beginner is awesome. Then see the character coming out of their sound. If they get fans who like it, even more gravy.

  • @bigjermboktown6976
    @bigjermboktown6976 Месяц назад +7

    Zakk does seem like he's been going around in circles for the last 15 years. There is no bigger Zakk fan than I am and the dude can play anything and I've always said it's not really his electric guitar playing but his acoustic music that sets him apart and I just wish he would do at least a couple solo albums that sound like no rest for the wicked and No More Tears or hell even when he does a concert I wish he'd play a few songs off those albums

  • @JoelPerri7777
    @JoelPerri7777 Месяц назад +4

    I remember buying my first vintage guitar, and the guys at the music shop kept calling it “thr edge” guitar cuz it was a late 70s all black Strat with a maple neck. It’s one of his main axes, played it at the red rocks show in 83 , that’s where I originally saw it on mtv. As far as Hendrix goes, he was a huge influence on my playing, but not in the lead guitar area, although I love his lead playing, his rhythm playing to me, is where it’s at. Anytime you hear someone playing little wing or castles made of sand, it’s always a little “off” cuz they can’t quite get his rhythm down. It ain’t easy. He could play with literally no gain, and you can hear every note ring out. Another cool video man

    • @guitarmeetsscience
      @guitarmeetsscience  Месяц назад

      Thank you man! Pretty cool story about the edge guitar. As far as Hendrix is concerned, you are absolutely right - he put in all these little fine touches in his rhythms that people have a really hard time copping. He just had it naturally

  • @LeonardoDiLorenzo-c9m
    @LeonardoDiLorenzo-c9m Месяц назад +4

    JEFF BECK!!!!! that's musical personality, raw musical nature and uniqueness.

  • @MetaITurtle
    @MetaITurtle Месяц назад +4

    I always wondered how many unknown musicians are out there. Like right now someone is making the new music that we arent ready for

    • @guitarmeetsscience
      @guitarmeetsscience  Месяц назад +1

      You are absolutely right - it's even hard to fathom just how many there are!

  • @sean131sm
    @sean131sm Месяц назад +3

    Two underrated guitarists for me is Andy Taylor from Duran Duran and Billy Duffy from The Cult.

  • @mikelachey824
    @mikelachey824 Месяц назад +2

    Mayers work with The dead is amazing. The dude has a lot of heart and soul to his play

  • @prcc
    @prcc Месяц назад +6

    Anyone who calls Clapton "boring" probably thinks that all great films have car chases and superheroes.

    • @Raggerty-j4c
      @Raggerty-j4c Месяц назад +3

      Or maybe we just don't like blues playing.

    • @Romeo_Blake
      @Romeo_Blake 26 дней назад +3

      @@Raggerty-j4cnot even that, I just feel like there were so, so many better players that did what he did at the time and better

  • @Flying-V-Shredder
    @Flying-V-Shredder Месяц назад +4

    One of the great rock guitarists that people might not be aware of who is incredibly creative is Tracii Guns.

  • @giovannibruno5745
    @giovannibruno5745 Месяц назад +4

    The ONLY Guitarrist that has kept me interested and developing all the time you ve only have to analyse his work over 40 yrs is Steve Stevens HE is Underrated !!!! To my knowledge he could wipe the floor with everyone !!! Just ck his solos any style !!

    • @MrLuigiFercotti
      @MrLuigiFercotti Месяц назад +1

      Stevens is a great player and has a great ear or melody.

    • @christofthedead
      @christofthedead Месяц назад

      What about Johnny Johns or Bobby Roberts? Not to mention Chris Christopherson, or Billy Billys

    • @jrb1001
      @jrb1001 26 дней назад

      Use to think I was a pretty good technical guitarist maybe 6-7/10 until RUclips came along and showed me that great guitarist and great musicians and great artists are a dime a dozen. Dropped my score to a 2-3/10. Not that score is important. I can still make music that I and others enjoy and there is nothing like playing live with a group of artists you connect with. Some of the most enjoyable moments in life have come from that journey on stage when you are "plugged in" to everybody in the room.

  • @joannatrinidad9358
    @joannatrinidad9358 Месяц назад +1

    The best thing about being a guitarist is the individuality, it doesnt matter if you only play 1 note or thousand of note, you play slow or you play fast, i dont expect clapton to play like yngwie or vice versa..as an individual you imprint your own sound on the instrument, there are no overrated guitar players, just guitar players😊

  • @KenTeel
    @KenTeel Месяц назад +11

    My friend used to say: You only need one blues record, and a turntable with three speeds.

  • @beare55
    @beare55 28 дней назад +1

    Duane Allman & Dickey Betts, the best guitar duo in one band, and each on his own was incredible!

  • @calokid
    @calokid 23 дня назад +1

    The Edge's solo on "New Year's Day" is up there with Gilmour's solo on "Time"..some of my all time favorite guitar solos...(and I tend to prefer shredders like Vinnie Moore and Randy Rhoads).
    Someone also mentioned Johnny Marr as underrated and I agree!

  • @davidmirzo31
    @davidmirzo31 Месяц назад +1

    I once walked out of a BLS show after a 17 minute pentatonic solo of Zakk. Dude rips, but gets old pretty easily. I loved the early Ozzy work with more riffs than just drop downs.

  • @trevortabin2540
    @trevortabin2540 Месяц назад +1

    all spot on. pros and cons laid out objectively.

  • @stellaspoochpitfeaturingro3522
    @stellaspoochpitfeaturingro3522 Месяц назад +2

    I hear ya. There's a lot of talk about repetition, but 12 notes is all you get, and all you will ever get

  • @tommydeamon7657
    @tommydeamon7657 Месяц назад +6

    Say whst you want about santana that guy is pure class and it might take 3 notes before you know its him and so fing what if he,s not as good as he use to be hes like my dads age and who knows might be getting into the althimers club so dont knock him

    • @guitarmeetsscience
      @guitarmeetsscience  Месяц назад +1

      Carlos is definitely pure class all the way - hopefully I was able to highlight that part of it in the video too. He just did his thing and it totally worked. I love his music, do I find him a completely influential player not entirely, but that doesn't take away from him whatsoever.

  • @spotsthecat7913
    @spotsthecat7913 Месяц назад +3

    There's no such thing as overrated or greatest guitarist(s) IMHO. They played what they feel and play the best, which interests some people while not really matched others' taste. Most of them are passionate, hard-working musicians that sacrifice more than most people, and they (most of the time) deserved their fame and success

  • @Jesse615
    @Jesse615 Месяц назад +3

    I'm not a Zakk W. fan, and, personally, would say he's over-rated, but your argument that Ozzy could hire, and auditioned countless others before choosing ZW is salient and compelling! I can't say I care much for his playing anyway, but I won't be making any cases for him not having talent, just not the kind of thing I'm into. And I have totally made the same argument for Hendrix! That, in the context of what people were hearing back then, his music, and his drip too -- were light years from anything they could even imagine.

  • @crazeyjoe
    @crazeyjoe Месяц назад +2

    *For the most part, I agree with this assessment! Kirk Hammett had some tasty solos pre Black album. From the Black album forward, he fell in love with the wah a bit too and I feel it had diminished his strength. I could go either way with Zach Wyldle as to whether he is overrated or not. As for his pinch harmonic, vibrato squeals, nobody was making the squeal quite like he did/does and many a metal guitarists today can thank him for that! The rest, imo are spot on!!!*

    • @guitarmeetsscience
      @guitarmeetsscience  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you - there has definitely been a lot of hate on Zakk I've seen in here, but man he really does have a way with those pinch harmonics. Truly his calling card I could hear him do them All night long.

  • @steveo8571
    @steveo8571 23 дня назад

    People forget what guitar solos sounded like in 1965. Then came Clapton's playing in the Beano album and Cream, Beck's solo in Shapes of Things and Hendrix. They are legends for a reason.

  • @bluesbandido2259
    @bluesbandido2259 20 дней назад

    P.S. Go watch Santana live at Woodstock performance. Santana plays like a man possessed and Drummer Michael Shrieve plays a drum solo that has gone down as one of the best. And the band as a collective unit driving the performance on is simply incredible.
    As anyone on this list and ALL will praise the performance as something from another world. All bands as a collective unit strive to have a night like that.

  • @Ibaneddie76
    @Ibaneddie76 Месяц назад +2

    Dang I actually agree with this list witch is rare. Just because a guitarist is technically overrated it doesn't mean it devalues his contributions to music its just talking about the actual technical side of playing the instrument. Nothing for anyone to get their panties in a wad over!

  • @bloosman1
    @bloosman1 Месяц назад +8

    Jeff Beck. 'nuff said.

  • @alexanders562
    @alexanders562 Месяц назад +1

    This was a thoughtful presentation, and while I sat on the edge of my seat ready to argue, I agreed with the criticisms, the criteria, the acknowledgments to the over-rated, and the winners. The 80's fashion had no place for SRV, he was not using synths, was not a male model, and yet was the blues guitar hero of the era. That is how good he was and adaptive. He would have gone on to grow more. Jimi was a profound artist on top of being able to win back his soul from the devil in a guitar contest. He got to go to England and produce amazing work because the U.S. would have never known how to market him or let him compose and produce his music. He should have been allowed to have done more for us. There was electric guitar before Jimi Hendrix and after. All his great footage is lost, poorly shot, or hidden. Sadly, footage of him at some shows, exhausted and miserable right before his death is out there. It is hard to show young people why his performances were untouchable.

  • @syzygy2464
    @syzygy2464 Месяц назад +4

    the no more tears and Perry Mason solo's show that Zakk was more than just a generic penatonic runner. He also has a strong command of phrasing, melody and nuance. He just really loves to dig in and shred. But when the song calls for it the guy can write an epic solo that fits the moment.

  • @K-Rock1963
    @K-Rock1963 Месяц назад +12

    Clapton? Wow. Just because he’s been around for decades doesn’t mean he has to be judged by his total body of work. All of these guitar players would fall into that category if they live long enough.

    • @jk-76
      @jk-76 Месяц назад +4

      Clapton is sloppy and unorigional. Listen to his live playing. Not with nostalgia, but with a musicians lens. Would that playing do anything without his 60 years of hype?

    • @K-Rock1963
      @K-Rock1963 Месяц назад +1

      @@jk-76 he was good enough for Van Halen

    • @jk-76
      @jk-76 Месяц назад +1

      @@K-Rock1963
      And?

    • @K-Rock1963
      @K-Rock1963 Месяц назад +1

      We disagree. You do you, I’ll do me

    • @guitarmeetsscience
      @guitarmeetsscience  Месяц назад

      Good points as well

  • @Krommer1000
    @Krommer1000 Месяц назад +4

    Said in echoing announcer voice: "Agreed. On all of them.".

  • @lazur1
    @lazur1 Месяц назад +1

    What do you value? For myself, I value a musician who can improvise over interesting, sometimes complex chord progressions, with insight, ease & grace. IE: Jazz. Most top rock players simply don't, &, likely, can't do that, thus they will alway fall far down on the list behind Wes Montgomery, Joe Pass, Tal Farlow Johnny Smith, Barney Kessel, et al. Today's greatest player might be Guthrie Govan, who seems able to play anything.

  • @jhandle4196
    @jhandle4196 Месяц назад +1

    What's amazing to me is that these guitarists, at least according to the video, can switch from right-handed to left-handed, and back again, and not miss a note.

  • @jeffdowning4877
    @jeffdowning4877 Месяц назад +1

    Fun listen. Great insights. With SRV it was so spot on- groundbreaking no, derivative yes, but undeniably visceral and amazing in his conviction- you can't fake that. The Hendrix connection is dead on too in the passion and showmanship. And I agree that Clapton and Santana are overrated totally.

  • @ariamartinez7355
    @ariamartinez7355 Месяц назад +3

    Slash has some really great new music with the Conspirators. They’ve put out 4 albums together & he’s just released a blues album. Check it out.

    • @guitarmeetsscience
      @guitarmeetsscience  Месяц назад

      His latest is great - and it's cool that he got to get Brian Johnson in there to sing in normal voice. I love Brian screams, but it is really a treat to hear him actually full on singing.

  • @Carlosperez-fc9xh
    @Carlosperez-fc9xh 24 дня назад +1

    i would rate them more for what they do now or before passing away than what goal they achieved in the past.

  • @WilliamJames48
    @WilliamJames48 Месяц назад +2

    All just guys who interpret the blues scale in their own way.

  • @robonguitarnz
    @robonguitarnz Месяц назад +2

    I agree with your list, overrated doesn't mean bad though, you're still in the conversation, but you're more of the motor in your band's car instead of the driver.

  • @johnterpack3940
    @johnterpack3940 Месяц назад +3

    If it's all about pushing guitar forward... how is Slash not overrated? I've seen 100 unknown guitarists in bar bands just as good as Slash. Same with Kirk.
    "Innovation" is massively overrated. When I go into a restaurant and order lasagna, I don't want the chef to "innovate" a zucchini souffle. And when I want to hear AC/DC, I'm going to reach for "Powerage" or "For Those About to Rock", not "Black Ice".

  • @tommydeamon7657
    @tommydeamon7657 Месяц назад +14

    In my opinion and its just that an opinion not a fact merallica kicked ass untill the black album wich was ok but not great they never reached the badassery of there first 4 albums

    • @rm25088
      @rm25088 Месяц назад +3

      I agree. Anything after black is just totally different. Almost like they sold out or something for that sweet cash. They had 1 or 2 ok songs in the 90s but that is about it. I kind of like Hero of the day.

    • @ata5855
      @ata5855 Месяц назад

      pretty sure that it's a fact...

    • @rbssls
      @rbssls Месяц назад

      That’s a fact right there sir.
      I would add that even with it, their songwriting overall has always been on another level.

    • @goshgolly8305
      @goshgolly8305 Месяц назад +1

      The Black album was different but still good. After that it's not great. So hard to create original music that's really good. Most artists can't do it after a while. Billy Joel talked about that. He says that's why he doesn't make new albums

    • @rm25088
      @rm25088 Месяц назад +1

      smart man. If I had 3 or 4 platinum or gold albums that everyone loved, I would be afraid of tarnishing it. Some people just keep on going but they ruin their name. I think after 3 or 4 awesome albums, you would be set for life money wise. Plus you can do other projects if you are famous and have the money.

  • @thekivster
    @thekivster Месяц назад +3

    It depends who is rating them. Is this really just a question if they’re good or not?

    • @guitarmeetsscience
      @guitarmeetsscience  Месяц назад +1

      More about what they did to bring guitar playing forward. Of course in that respect I did undercut Eric a bit admittedly, but the players, especially Jimi Hendrix and SRV really head the list in that department for me.

    • @thekivster
      @thekivster Месяц назад

      @@guitarmeetsscience Even though Eric isn't the best player ever, the influence he had on so many bands is insane. Cream were the first people to do heavy blues rock. Even Jimi Hendrix was inspired by him.

  • @kathyyoung9539
    @kathyyoung9539 Месяц назад +2

    Nobody can play like Stevie Ray Vaughan. NOBODY!! AND HE WAS UNDER RATED. THATS THE TRUTH!! ❤❤❤❤ STEVIE WILL ALWAYS BE NO.#1. ❤❤❤❤

    • @trevor9917
      @trevor9917 Месяц назад

      Not even Johnny Winter? Wow, high praise indeed!

    • @NoCats-on-Guitars
      @NoCats-on-Guitars Месяц назад

      Listen to Rory Gallagher, he did that years before SRV.

  • @babyjames6979
    @babyjames6979 Месяц назад +3

    Bonnamassa is kinda boring but some people love that style and he does that well

  • @feralsanders
    @feralsanders Месяц назад +4

    Slash, Bonamassa, Clapton, Edge --- ALL overrated. Slash is rock icon, not a guitar god; Bonamassa, rehash; Clapton, not exciting (ever); Edge indescript and nebulous.

  • @johnvonachen1672
    @johnvonachen1672 Месяц назад +1

    I saw a video where different guitarists played the same Randy Rhodes solo. All the others played it note for note. Slash made his own solo in the same style. He has admitted that he’s not the most technical guy and when he practices he’s looking to be more expressive. Isn’t that what every artist wants to do? You have a vision and you want to make it real. You can do that with oil paints of every color, or just oatmeal paper and compressed charcoal.

  • @sermorel
    @sermorel 24 дня назад +1

    For many of the guitarists on this list who are being called overrated, playing guitar is only a small part of what they have to offer. There is much more artistic value than just showing fast guitar licks. Why guitarists like to classify others, I have no idea.
    This is music, not math.

    • @guitarmeetsscience
      @guitarmeetsscience  24 дня назад

      I can respect that - but yes, in terms of actual playing technique I definitely put a lot of weight on it. But I've been a guitar player for many many moons, others however might be more into the songs or catchy melodies and I do not fault them at all. It is just my take.

  • @okcdan69
    @okcdan69 Месяц назад +2

    Metallica might just be over rated (I'm 55 and a fan from day one), but look at Hammett outside of that context - he's a great guitarist.

  • @lorenazure7116
    @lorenazure7116 21 день назад +1

    I have not checked this page out. This just appeared in the algorithms. However, I would expect there to be at least 10 other volumes of this, if not more, rating and classifying other guitar greats, because there are so many. I also would note that it isn't about Dollys wigs thatcomes to mind firstly, when she was mentioned! Lol

    • @guitarmeetsscience
      @guitarmeetsscience  20 дней назад

      Haha that had me cracking up lmao. Yeah, I do believe the wigs take a second seat 🤣 thanks man, I'm glad the algorithm is at least somewhat doing its job lol

  • @mikelachey824
    @mikelachey824 Месяц назад +1

    LOLOL The Edge is one of the best to ever play a guitar. His early stuff was before its time. He is a true architect of sound. It Might Get Loud is a masterpiece and must watch. Him, White and Page are 3 generations of genius.

    • @Fredphlegm
      @Fredphlegm Месяц назад

      @@mikelachey824 Edge is a chord player in a band where the music is slightly catchy.
      U2 are not particularly musical. They are more overindulged, than overrated, but they are still overrated nonetheless.

  • @ricosuave7102
    @ricosuave7102 Месяц назад +6

    Carlos Santana was way ahead of his time. He isn’t just a guitar player he is an arranger/composer. His music is more like a mantra where you can play an album all the way through. He plays fast,slow,blues tone but you can feel what he feels. It draws emotion out of you in a way like David Gilmour who mainly plays slow. There are emotions and feelings behind their playing.

  • @johnanon3081
    @johnanon3081 Месяц назад

    I absolutely love Clapton's guitar work and solo in "I Wish It Would Rain Down." It really is one of my all-time favorite guitar solos. However, there's nothing else of his that does anything for me. I've tried listening to all eras of his work and still can't find anything that I enjoy.

  • @MrLuigiFercotti
    @MrLuigiFercotti Месяц назад +1

    You have to understand how popularity works in mass media. There is only so much room at the top of the pyramid and how you get there has a huge component of luck, time and place. Talent is important, but it’s just a component. The audience only has so much bandwidth and the industry can incredibly narrow on who gets a shot.

    • @jimmyparris9892
      @jimmyparris9892 Месяц назад

      But, the internet does help a little bit to level the field.

  • @Atlsynth
    @Atlsynth 27 дней назад +1

    There is a lot of fresh new talent. Some of it is so amazing, it gives me a headache. It's all in what you like and makes you chill. Is it fair? Not always. Thanks to the internet tho, we aren't limited to our choices. I am however, tired of 'the greatest of all time' thing. It should read, 'the all time luckiest of the past'. amen

  • @GeneSchmidt
    @GeneSchmidt Месяц назад +1

    Really enjoyed this!

  • @Darrylizer1
    @Darrylizer1 17 дней назад +1

    Slash isn't original but he's damn good at what he does. He's a solid hard rock player with no pretensions to anything else. Def. not over rated.

  • @Dragorama11
    @Dragorama11 Месяц назад +3

    Opinions are like a$$holes, everyone has one.. But hey, thanks for showing us all the best..

  • @DanielCastillo-cn3pp
    @DanielCastillo-cn3pp Месяц назад +3

    Not naming names. But they're over rated absolutely...

  • @SongSwan
    @SongSwan Месяц назад +1

    Deserve ? what does anyone in music deserve,you put yourself in the market and get what you get.

  • @stevemarshall3986
    @stevemarshall3986 Месяц назад +1

    I agree with your conclusions.
    Edge, Santana, Clapton definitely overrated.
    I love SRV but definitely repetitive. Can't really distinguish between albums.

  • @Loskov-my3xw
    @Loskov-my3xw Месяц назад +2

    Santana's soloing chops had actually got really good by the time Schon was in the band, and into the fusion/jazz influenced era...there's a run there from III through to Borboletta/Moonflower/illuminations that merits re-evaluation of him imo. Sure there were more technical players at the time, and plenty after, but compared in the proper context to other late 60s-early 70s initially blues-based rock players that stuff is top-notch and displays at least as high a facility and musicality as Clapton, Beck or Page had at the time.
    After that, the band went downhill and he stagnated, before eventually turning into a parody of himself.

  • @halfcalkt8367
    @halfcalkt8367 Месяц назад +1

    THE EDGE! I agree. He is an artist! Great guitarist? Not so much. But I challenge people to unplug your favorites’ guitar and all you’ll hear is a bunch of unattractive , tinny plinking. The magic is in the finished product! If you can’t hum a solo from memory, is it all that great? I respect taste and musically over technical proficiency any day of the week. Innovative doesn’t necessarily mean good.

  • @darthpishflaps9654
    @darthpishflaps9654 Месяц назад +1

    A brilliant analysis !

  • @everythingbobbywolfe
    @everythingbobbywolfe Месяц назад +1

    The only one I could even make a slight argument against was Kirk. He's no dime, zakk, petrucci, etc but I truly don't listen to enough of that genre to be that knowledgeable of all his material

  • @scottsuvoski9574
    @scottsuvoski9574 Месяц назад +1

    I agree with the Edge being over rated. When he first came out, it was fresh, exciting. But, since the Unforgettable Fire, nothing new! I like Zack, but those constant squeels, too much. Especially live. But Santana? I would've let that alone. He's a legend. Hendrix in Band of Gypsy's, Machine Gun, etc. So much Soul and pure feeling, excellent. Honorable Mentions; Alex Lifeson, Robin Trower, 70's Steve Howe: Overall Best!

  • @dornelli1
    @dornelli1 Месяц назад +2

    the true, only legends: steve howie, alex liferson, eddie van halen, michael shaenker, mike knofler, and very few others that came out in the 90's.

  • @michaelschnepel5000
    @michaelschnepel5000 Месяц назад +1

    That's the great thing about the guitar, there is no rules, just music theory to explain what's happening, they play the way there supposed to play ,there style , some like it some don't , and why do people knock the pentatonic scales there the backbone of the fretboard

  • @bigjermboktown6976
    @bigjermboktown6976 Месяц назад +5

    Joe bonamassa is one person for some reason I just do not like I swear I don't know what it is but it's something. It just seems like he's more of a I'm a good guitar player and I've got hundreds of guitars and you don't

    • @wombatcube
      @wombatcube Месяц назад +1

      What turned me on him is how he just played over Eric Gales. Gales is better, but Bonamassa would play 3 choruses to Gales 1 and it felt like he just didn't want people to hear Eric let go.

    • @alantaylorfc
      @alantaylorfc Месяц назад +1

      I remember Bonamassa saying something about guitar players being "lazy" or fraudulent or something similar if they use effect pedals. That is insanely absurd. I don't know his music, but does he just play the same old blues licks with the same tone all the time then?

    • @beachcomber4141
      @beachcomber4141 Месяц назад +2

      A good friend and fellow gutar player both consider JB corporate blues rock. Listening to his recorded songs, the few I have heard, are just generic blues rock with some really good playing, but i have yet to hear something that moves me deep. Now, I have seen some live clips that he just kills it. But as good as he is, I have yet to hear something he recorded that really showed me anything new. Even his live playing seems to over rely on Eric Johnsons fast runs. BUT, he is a monster player.

    • @guitarmeetsscience
      @guitarmeetsscience  Месяц назад +1

      He does definitely give off those vibes

  • @jamesmentzer
    @jamesmentzer Месяц назад +5

    Mayer to self absorbed clapton has a patentedguitar licks same pattern zak penatonic worked to death most cant play without boxes take away those sound boxes lets see how much talent theydo have real guys like red volkert or danny gatton

    • @raithmhael3323
      @raithmhael3323 Месяц назад

      Have you heard Zakk's acoustic work? Are you a musician?

    • @guitarmeetsscience
      @guitarmeetsscience  Месяц назад

      Danny gatton - what a beast!

    • @ThomasNeily
      @ThomasNeily Месяц назад

      Danny Gaston and red blow my mind everyone has something to offer as a human being let them live let them be themselves when I showed some kid a guitar riff and saw the excitement on his face it was truly worth it

  • @toneymontgomery2964
    @toneymontgomery2964 20 дней назад +1

    The edge has never been rated. His talent was the fact that he could make awesome songs with the least amount of Notes/chords/talent, (he has said as much himself). He is literary the Anti-Guitarist

  • @Headsign
    @Headsign Месяц назад +9

    This list lacks at least five essential guitarists:
    Frank Zappa
    Prince
    Rory Gallagher
    Eddie van Halen
    Ritchie Blackmore

    • @Fredphlegm
      @Fredphlegm Месяц назад +3

      Prince is an imposter. There are hundreds that can play the guitar better than he.

    • @Flying-V-Shredder
      @Flying-V-Shredder Месяц назад +2

      Zappa=incredible.

    • @jottailirik9581
      @jottailirik9581 Месяц назад

      I respect them all but in my book Rory is the best!

  • @HC_GUITAR
    @HC_GUITAR Месяц назад +2

    Hi Jimmy, hope you are well mate!! Great video! I actually agree with your verdict on every player on your list! You used the same criteria i use when rating guitarists. And you are definitely not overated btw 😂🤘

    • @guitarmeetsscience
      @guitarmeetsscience  Месяц назад

      Thank you Hugh! Right to hear from you bud - keep on rocking Scotland!!! 🤘🤘

  • @googlechicken
    @googlechicken Месяц назад +1

    Everyone enjoys music in their own way.

  • @jeremyfried5463
    @jeremyfried5463 Месяц назад +1

    I always even as a kid in the 90s never understood why people thought Eric Clapton so good. I always thought he sounded similar to other people just got more attention. Later I learned to play and found Clapton very easy to learn. Jimi on the other hand had hey Joe, little wing, castles made of sand, 1983, ect. So many various styles and ideas that involved the latest tech that at times he himself help pioneer. Guitar pedals his tech would tweek. Honestly it’s all objective so like what you like, also I’m surprised eddy Van Halen wasn’t on this list. I’ve always heard he sounds like a robotic version of Hendrix transposed to the 80s, innovative yes but kinda dull to some degree.