My favorite parts of the Snapcube fandubs is when someone says something and someone else repeats it. For example, in thr Sa2 dub during the cutscene before the final Sonic vs. Shadow battle, the intercom says "Welcome to funland, Sonic." It then cuts to Shadow who says the same thing. I don't know why these moments make me laugh so much.
Omega: Are you... The original? Eggman is fleeing in his flagship: the Egg Balloon. If you wish to confront him, then assist me in grounding his vessel
Eggman: Yes. *Does the the Hero Mission of Iron Jungle* GUN Commander: I know you. Shadow The Hedgehog. Despite how good this stage’s music and doing the Semi Hero route from here, why didn’t Shadow believe he was an Android or tell the GUN Commander he’s an Android.
@@lucky_dog1228Because the game already struggled with the heavy burden of it’s non-linear plot progression, and they couldn’t make whole new variations of cutscenes depending on what levels Shadow did previously. The closest the game gets to that is Lava Shelter and Black Comet’s opening cutscenes making Shadow stand in different locations depending on what level he just completed. The game instead opts for the idea that the GUN Commander’s story is the one Shadow believes as truth over Eggman’s lies. Shadow himself in the recap scenes after Iron Jungle have him doubt the validity of the statement, saying something along the lines of: “I’m… an android?! I don’t want to believe it, but to know for sure I need to get the remaining chaos emeralds!” Additionally, on top of the GUN Commander’s statement, Shadow directly asks Black Doom for the truth of his existence in the hero ending of Cosmic Fall, which he obliges. So whatever doubts his encounter with Eggman in Iron Jungle instilled were washed away with the new information he received.
I like this level and this is tied for my favorite game ever, but I have a few complaints revolving around this level and it's storytelling. Egg Breaker. Right before that bossfight, Shadow is told that he is an android. If you were doing the Neutral Mission, this would be fine. But if you did either the hero or dark missions, all of the sudden that plot point is just completely out the window. But it gets worse. This level is fine if you were just going to Lava Shelter. But what's not fine is if you were going to Lava Shelter from another level. You either just saved the president or destroyed the Ark's defenses. How the hell does that cause Shadow to realize that he's an android?! Just how?! Eggman never told him. He never met the Shadow Androids. I can kinda understand how he'd know he was a copy of Shadow by doing the Space Gadget Dark Mission. But not if he did the Air Fleet Hero Mission! And he wouldn't know either way how Eggman was responsible for his recreation!
@@Cyanmartinez the sequence of events leading to Shadow thinking he is a android makes no sense. If you go Dark Westopolis -> Neutral through Gun Fleet and do the Hero mission and save the president Shadow for some reason out of nowhere comes to the realization he's a android and goes to Lava Shelter to confront Eggman. Even though up to that point he doesn't know about the androids at all and after Cryptic Castle doesn't even encounter Eggman at all.
@@nullandvoid7524 in Sonic Heroes Shadow does see an android shadow. But it was Rouge and Omega who discovered that Eggman was making more. Maybe Shadow had a flashback to that android, and thought he was one them. But like said in my reply, I wasn't sure what the guy above was talking about. I've never played Shadow the Hedgehog
And at the last story, Eggman tells shadow the truth during the devil doom final boss fight, saying that shadow you are NOT an Android your are the REAL Shadow the hedgehog!
@@JSJJohnson Which just proves the point that Shadow had to have an encounter regarding the androids. He did see one broken android copy in Heroes (possibly the whole storage at the end even), but Eggman had to tell Shadow directly, that he was an Android. Which he only ever did in Iron Jungle, other times he was merely having none of Shadow's search for his past, here he directly suffocated every possibility first-hand or at least tried. When Shadow had doubts about his past in Heroes, he was fine with it ("Even if I'm a fake, I'm still the Ultimate Life Form!"), but here he's confronted with several purposes at once, of course he's clinging to the most realistic scenario and is shocked about every piece of information he gets. Honestly, I really think, Iron Jungle as a whole is canon.
![Iron Jungle - Shadow the Hedgehog [OST]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/66KydJ5JSuo/mqdefault.jpg)
This music is how stepping into an Autozone feels
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@@leftoxfluxinton3388 Fitting given the stage's theming both thematically and story wise
@@leftoxfluxinton3388 uh...can you you explain the meaning of this post? Like, why AutoZone? Nothing wrong with AutoZone, just asking.
Because that’s where Shadow was made from.
Jk. I wonder what AutoZone has to do with this.
THE ZONE. AUTO ZONE
Shadow: Oh a clone of myself!
Shadow Androids: OH A CLONE OF MYSELF!
My favorite parts of the Snapcube fandubs is when someone says something and someone else repeats it.
For example, in thr Sa2 dub during the cutscene before the final Sonic vs. Shadow battle, the intercom says "Welcome to funland, Sonic." It then cuts to Shadow who says the same thing.
I don't know why these moments make me laugh so much.
Wow, my own clone! Now neither of us will be virgins!
Eggman: "Shadow! I need get base to my base and restore order! Help me get away from these pesky GUN soldiers who are on my tail!"
Omega: Are you... The original? Eggman is fleeing in his flagship: the Egg Balloon. If you wish to confront him, then assist me in grounding his vessel
Omega: Accelerate by pressing the X (Gamecube) B (Xbox) Circle (PS2) button while grinding.
Eggman: Bend off those GUN robots!
Shadow: I need to hurry to the doctor's base!
Omega: Destroy Eggman's airship!
The Bass in this song is so good
Sonic Heroes vibes
Well it is a remix of rail canyon
@@luciaamberlongworth4730 is it for real? It dosent sound it at all or even close to it. Probably a little of it
I mean Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog are very similar
@@D00DM00D yeah basically, the way they jump, how fast they are, their character models, almost other stuff
Last Gen Richtofen, we meet again
This is giving me strong Sonic Heroes vibes
Don’t go smashing up my robots
‘Shadow...android? Am I an...Android...too?’
Eggman: Yes.
*Does the the Hero Mission of Iron Jungle*
GUN Commander: I know you. Shadow The Hedgehog.
Despite how good this stage’s music and doing the Semi Hero route from here, why didn’t Shadow believe he was an Android or tell the GUN Commander he’s an Android.
@@lucky_dog1228Because the game already struggled with the heavy burden of it’s non-linear plot progression, and they couldn’t make whole new variations of cutscenes depending on what levels Shadow did previously. The closest the game gets to that is Lava Shelter and Black Comet’s opening cutscenes making Shadow stand in different locations depending on what level he just completed.
The game instead opts for the idea that the GUN Commander’s story is the one Shadow believes as truth over Eggman’s lies. Shadow himself in the recap scenes after Iron Jungle have him doubt the validity of the statement, saying something along the lines of: “I’m… an android?! I don’t want to believe it, but to know for sure I need to get the remaining chaos emeralds!”
Additionally, on top of the GUN Commander’s statement, Shadow directly asks Black Doom for the truth of his existence in the hero ending of Cosmic Fall, which he obliges. So whatever doubts his encounter with Eggman in Iron Jungle instilled were washed away with the new information he received.
I like this level and this is tied for my favorite game ever, but I have a few complaints revolving around this level and it's storytelling.
Egg Breaker.
Right before that bossfight, Shadow is told that he is an android. If you were doing the Neutral Mission, this would be fine. But if you did either the hero or dark missions, all of the sudden that plot point is just completely out the window.
But it gets worse.
This level is fine if you were just going to Lava Shelter.
But what's not fine is if you were going to Lava Shelter from another level.
You either just saved the president or destroyed the Ark's defenses.
How the hell does that cause Shadow to realize that he's an android?!
Just how?!
Eggman never told him.
He never met the Shadow Androids.
I can kinda understand how he'd know he was a copy of Shadow by doing the Space Gadget Dark Mission.
But not if he did the Air Fleet Hero Mission!
And he wouldn't know either way how Eggman was responsible for his recreation!
Sonic Heroes dives into that a bit. I'm not entirely sure what you mean though
@@Cyanmartinez the sequence of events leading to Shadow thinking he is a android makes no sense.
If you go Dark Westopolis -> Neutral through Gun Fleet and do the Hero mission and save the president Shadow for some reason out of nowhere comes to the realization he's a android and goes to Lava Shelter to confront Eggman.
Even though up to that point he doesn't know about the androids at all and after Cryptic Castle doesn't even encounter Eggman at all.
@@nullandvoid7524 in Sonic Heroes Shadow does see an android shadow. But it was Rouge and Omega who discovered that Eggman was making more. Maybe Shadow had a flashback to that android, and thought he was one them. But like said in my reply, I wasn't sure what the guy above was talking about. I've never played Shadow the Hedgehog
And at the last story, Eggman tells shadow the truth during the devil doom final boss fight, saying that shadow you are NOT an Android your are the REAL Shadow the hedgehog!
@@JSJJohnson Which just proves the point that Shadow had to have an encounter regarding the androids. He did see one broken android copy in Heroes (possibly the whole storage at the end even), but Eggman had to tell Shadow directly, that he was an Android. Which he only ever did in Iron Jungle, other times he was merely having none of Shadow's search for his past, here he directly suffocated every possibility first-hand or at least tried.
When Shadow had doubts about his past in Heroes, he was fine with it ("Even if I'm a fake, I'm still the Ultimate Life Form!"), but here he's confronted with several purposes at once, of course he's clinging to the most realistic scenario and is shocked about every piece of information he gets. Honestly, I really think, Iron Jungle as a whole is canon.
The beginning sounds like “Weapons Bed” from SA2
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This reminds me of Egg Albatross.