The intro for this was down right stunning. As was your jurassic world vs video. I love your channel so much. Btw when will you be releasing your Ghostbusters Vs video?
Thanks so much for the nice words buddy. I put a lot of work into some of these intros and I am so glad that you like them. The Ghostbusters versus video is going to take a while. As I was writing the script I realised that there is SO MUCH to talk about. So this will definitely be one of my more longer versus videos. And I want to make sure that I can make it as great as possible. So it will take a while, but in the meantime I will have plenty more on the way.
@@EricCarter12 no problem bro. You do a good job by making me excited for every video that comes out anyway. And that's fine if it I going to take a while because i can wait for as long as possible. Keep up the amazing work and soon you will become alot more popular than you are now!
@@EricCarter12np again :D. just one more thing (I'm so sorry if I'm talking to much or I'm annoying it's just love commenting on your vids because of how good they are) have you seen Disney's jungle book. If so i would love to see a VS video of the jungle book vs mowgli by Warner bros because i would love to see your opinion of disney and Warner bros movies outside of the DCEU or the MCU. It would be quite facinating to see your opinion on who portrays which better.
The suicide scene was really well done. As a kid, I had no idea why a man was falling off the building. I just assumed that someone pushed him off or something.
When Oliver Sansweet yelled at Mr. Incredible for "ruining his death," I only thought it was funny as a kid because I could not imagine anyone in real life getting that angry about somebody stopping them from attempting suicide.
For parents, maybe. Kids don't give a flying fuck about death, at least as long as it's relatively clean, without much gore involved. I can guarantee you that nobody below the age of, say, 14 who saw the original Incredibles when it came out was in any way disturbed by it. Hell, to me, brought up on Tom 'n Jerry, suicide was something I associated with comedy. Most of the time, people complaining about this stuff are just attention-whoring on Twitter. Like a blonde white gender studies graduate moaning about the cultural appropiation of an afro.
@KJ Beast I think Violet was better with showcasing her powers in the second movie compared to the first movie. However... 100 mile dash would forever be one of my favorite moments in cinema history. I was actually waiting for something similar that entire movie, and that's my fault for getting my hopes up. Violet and Mrs Incredible was amazing in the second movie though, same with Jack Jack. Just high-key wish Mr Incredible and Dash had more secenes.
@paulchucles no I’m saying that if you take out the current music for the movie and replace it with a worse score, it won’t bother me much. I can’t really say the same about pacing, plot, and character development. However, if you don’t agree with me that’s fine. . .music really comes down to personal preference
I believe there's probably a good reason for Violet, she's a teenager, there's no moment in life more confusing and dramatic than your teens, hormones are all over the place, school wants to define you, your parents want to "guide" you... It sucks... And on top you are seen and expected to work/act as a superhero??? Man! I think her character was really well done. Maybe more explanation would have been good but it was really great
@@jchandlersabeast Elastagirl's and Jak Jak's power were expanded so much in this movie. Violet even got some cool scenes, where she could send shockwaves to intercept the falling debris at the start, and her fight with Void. Dash never got to stretch his legs, and I don't even remember Mr. Incredible having to lift anything heavy.
I feel like the first was more realistic. The second's character design made them feel more like cartoons. The first also had a more unique filming style, as they take these wider shots that continue to pan out as the scene progresses. The second felt more bland, as we get basic quick shots that make it a different experience, but not a bad one.
I think I pretty much agree with you - except that you boiled it down to "predictability". I think the real problem with the villain is much more about the lack of thematic/philosophical depth, instead of predictability.
my only problem with the second movie is dark tone and adult scenes werent enough. Other than that, the 2nd movie did a great job in the firs movie we saw syndrome's super hero genocide, the deaths of henchmen,bad guys who have no problem with killing kids, some guy who committed suicide and elastigirl's pulls mr incredible home for a obvious thing. i know i think too much for a child cartoon but still this is also a super hero movie and in the first movie brad bird had proved that he care about his adult audience.
Baris Bal The first film was surprisingly adult oriented, yeah, and it felt like an actual family movie, rather than just a kids movie. I think just quietly that it would've been impossible for the second film to follow such a success, just because the first film left very little unsolved. In a way, the plot felt almost like it was fan-generated, and the political environment of today means that the film couldn't tackle adult themes to the same degree of the first one. It was good, but the second one was definitely more of a kids film than a family film.
Violet's behaviour in the 2nd movie is totally nornal. She's a teenage girl, which is one of the most scariest creatures on the planet when they get angry.
Coming late, but I can relate. Back then I was a 2-year-old, going to 3. One and a half year after that, I finally saw it, and just kept watching everytime I found it on TV
I think it is pretty clear that you don't have kids. The children are far more developed in the 2nd movie and pretty much every parent, once their kids are teens, realize that all teenagers come across as mentally unstable. Violet was completely believable considering what happened to her.
Imo, what I love about the 2nd Incredibles is that Helen is a great example of how a mother can be a superhero without losing her nurturing side. Helen, imo, is one of the best examples of a strong female protagonist.
OMG, for two weeks I have been waiting for this vs video and today I decided to watch all your vs videos from the Lego Batman Movie vs The Lego Movie to The Nun vs the Conjuring 2 and when I was done, I checked your home page and I could not stop geeking out. As always, great job on this vs video Eric. Incredibles 2 is definitely in my top 3 favorite movies of the year with Infinity War and Fallen Kingdom.
I would give it a 8.5! Also I think IndoRaptor is much better and scarier than that T-Rex wannabe from the first movie. IndoRaptor was much scarier than a normal raptor tbh...
I guess Brad Bird sees it as generic (maybe, idk hahaha) since both movies feature a human villain. But I guess, that's what makes these movies stand out from the other superhero movies: they're fighting against empowered, complex, smart villainous humans rather than a classic superpowered-villain.
9:42 I think that first argument is a little invalid simply because the second movie is in fact a sequel. The reason they wouldn’t be more memorable is because they didn’t have to develop their characters. The makers did such a good job on the first that they felt that they didn’t need to develop more. You even said that the portrayal was so good that they were very memorable
Not always. If you can create something amazing, you are able to give more depth and even more meaningful events to the characters. Shrek 2 is a great example, which not only is considered to be better than the first one (that's relative), but the sequel gave much more depth to the characters making more impactful moments.
Violet and Dash are exactly like my brother and I, will piss each other off and fight at all costs, yet as soon as one of us is in trouble, the other is always gonna rush in to help out
@WWE 4 life I think bane is better than the joker jack Nicholson is great the best batman movie is the dark knight rises and man of steel is awsome the best superhero movie ever I don't care about what you say
i didn't know that it was even a suicide when i was a kid I thought someone told him to jump and that they were going to chatch him and when he said "you ruined my death that's what you did." i thought he said "you ruined my neck."
I know. Every kid had a different understanding to what had happened in that scene. When I revisited the movie as an adult so I could make this review, I was shocked to find out what this scene was REALLY about. It's really dark stuff.
I enjoyed both, however I liked the first one much more. You cover everything I had to say, but i wanted to add another reason. I think for this is that the setting of a hero mixed with average daily life was much better in the first one. In the first one it had a great story about an underground hero going through a midlife crisis. We got a much better believable view of how bob felt about life and missing the glory days and what he tries to do to acquire it. We also saw a lot more about how his family and those around him are affected by it. In the second one, it felt more like I was watching two different movies. One a slice of life comedy about a stay at home dad, the other a predictable mystery action. This dissonance in the second one is a part of why I dont like it as much.
sequels aren't always as good as the original movies but incredibles 2 proved it wrong this one was almost as good as the original with little thing to criticize so if they r gonna make us wait for another 14 years to release incredibles 3 with quality contents as its first 2 movies then i am ready to wait.
I had the same question, and I was thinking they somehow survived the explosion bc Edna designed them with the same indestructible material as the red suits. But then again, Syndrome's robot tore through Mr. Incredible's suit, so idk
My other question is where did the stroller from the beginning of the second movie come from. Incredibles 2 picks up right where the first one left off, and at the end of the first movie Jack Jack is on Elastigirl's back, but at the start of the second (at the exact same line of the end of the first movie) Jack Jack is in a stroller. This is prolly a really stupid detail nobody cares about lol but still
Turquoise Penguin bro lemme blow ur mind real quick fam, in the first film, where did the incredibles stay between the track meet and their house exploding. The reason why I ask this, is because after the incredibles in the second film are escorted to a motel, Dicker says that their part of the government is going out due to recent events right? To me that sounded like the first time that they're having this conversation, like as if between NOW and the HOUSE EXPLOSION, this is the first time they're talking about houses or whatever. But to be fair, the track meet was hinted at being a time skip, so i'm not sure, might need to rewatch stuff.
I love how these movies humanize superheroes. Bob flinches before the train strikes him. Sure he can stop it, doesn't mean its not gonna hurt. Bob and Lucius (Frozone) laughing and sharing stories about their old battles (and i love that they make fun of some villain tropes, like monologuing to the hero) Helen and Bob having turbulence in their relationship Bob going through a midlife crisis Dash and Violet getting into typical sibling fights and arguments and then of course the sociatal effects of supers and how that would cause a division between supers and non supers, sort of like the division of benders and non benders in Avatar the Last Airbender
Wow, I surprisingly agree with all your points. The biggest disappointment I have for the sequel was its lack of equal focus on the children's development as superheroes sans Jack Jack. I loved Violet the most and to see her get reduced to an upset teenager just blows as an arc. Then there's Dash who just lost his fire. Original one's better for me. The second one did not allow much time to breath.
This is really cool because on a hike just yesterday my mom and I were talking about the first Incredibles vs. the second, and how the first had so many memorable scenes and a great villain, where overall we couldn't remember anything from the second one. We know we enjoyed it, we just didn't remember specifically what, you know? Just goes to show the power of--and what goes into--a truly memorable movie. This video is great!! :D
The score in the movies are great. I made mention to the music ramping up in tension during the story segment. But yeah, the music in both films (especially the first) is very good.
One thing the first film has over the second film (for me) was the fact that I grew up with it, and so doing so, discovered just how intricate the film was. It was a wonderful, even magical, experience discovering a new layer to the story as I went through a new phase in life. For instance, when I watched the film after happening to oversee a big fight between my folks, suddenly, the fight between Hellen and Bob felt very real. As great as the second film is, and as much as it did make me feel like a kid again (in more ways than one, I caught a bad case of vertigo and tossed my cookies the first time I watched the first film, and got a minor case with the rollercoasteresque camera movements in the second), I have grown as a person, and even try to write multilayered stories myself now, so now every layer that could be uncovered is more-or-less obvious to me now. What I'm trying to say is, the first film grew up with me, the second film did not, though that's a good thing, if The Dark Crystal has taught me anything, it's that exoteric films do _horribly_ at the Box Office. That said, I love the second film and I even was decently surprised by the twist (to me it was more about which of the Deavors was Screenslaver), and through it is not without it's flaws that knock it _just_ below the first film, it's still good enough for me to enjoy it just fine, but I hope they address the shortcomings in a third film, whenever that is.
Anyone else sad that he broke the rule of threes? He did the "Buddy, (MY NAMES INCREDIBOY) joke two times, but didn't cut away to the "Buddy?(My name's not Buddy! And it's not INCREDIBOY either!)
Incredibles 2 is like Toy Story 2, not better than the first one but a perfect sequel and a great movie in general. In my opinion some characters, the action,cinematography and animation are better in the second one but other characters (and the villian), the story and climax are way better in the first one. The scene of the screenslaver´s monologue and battle with elastigirl is amazing and I think that is better than any scene of Sindrome in the Incredibles 1
"No other superhero movie at this point in time has successfully incorporated politics into a superhero film." You forgot Watchmen... Probably the best commentary atm on superheroes effecting politics in modern society.
Ngl if it wasn’t for Spider-verse I woulda easily called Incredibles 2 my favorite animated super hero movie of 2018. But as is it’s still a great time 5 years later! Here’s hoping they make a third movie.
I didn’t know syndrome died.. for a kids movie I thought he was just flung or smt for laughs this really got dark though. Hopefully for the Incredibles 3 they’ll bring back syndrome that would qualify for a good plot and being the villain he is he can’t end like that!
I think violet was so angry because she was older in the 2nd film, so her personality would’ve changed and puberty hormones would make her more angry so I think that’s why she was more angry. And Dash was probably as old as violet was in the first one so that’s why he was more angry
For me, *The Incredibles* was a perfect 10 out of 10. My personal favorite Pixar film. And *Incredibles 2* was almost as good as the original, save for the plot being a bit more predictable. So I'd give it an excellent 9 out of 10- still fantastic, just not quite perfect.
Love the attention to detail in the starting credits. I got so engrossed in the review that I forgot I haven't seen Incredibles 2 yet! Didn't spoil too much though. How did I miss the 'spoiler' warning at the beginning??
What an intro! The best I have seen in a versus video in RUclips and I also liked the first movie more and also cuz of screenslaver. I am glad that I am here in this channel and can you plz make jungle book vs Mowgli legend of the jungle. Which one did you prefer Venom or Spiderman homecoming?
Thanks buddy. If you liked the intro of this versus video then check out my Avengers Infinity War VS Civil War and Jurassic World VS Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom videos. I give them some cool intros to. Yes, I am planning on doing Jungle Book VS Mowgli at some point. Oh that is a good question. I think I would give the edge to Spider-Man Homecoming. It wasn't anywhere NEAR a mess with its story like Venom was.
Thanks you are the best RUclipsr and I have almost seen every versus video and I saw that your it versus video had reached A MILLION VIEWS! obviously you deserve it cuz you are just the best :) and yeah venom sucked and Spiderman 3 was Way better for me too but the first Spiderman in my personal opinion was the best. I have seen your civil war veesus and also the Jurassic world they are all awesome they are better than the crap the other RUclipsr made. Keep it up and I have shared all your versus videos to my friends (they all love it). Once again nice work and I want to see more of it from a RUclipsr like you.
I think Incredibles 2 was a better movie than the first Incredibles just by a little. The Animation is better and I think even the story is more amazing. Even the climax has more action. The only problem it has is a villain problem, yes the villain is a good one, but nothing compared to Syndrome. However, the concept of the villain's PLAN was so interesting and I always wanted a villain who could do stuff like that. However, Syndrome is way better.
my only problem with the second movie is dark tone and adult scenes werent enough. Other than that, the 2nd movie did a great job in the firs movie we saw syndrome's super hero genocide, the deaths of henchmen,bad guys who have no problem with killing kids, some guy who committed suicide and elastigirl's pulls mr incredible home for a obvious thing. i know i think too much for a child cartoon but still this is also a super hero movie and in the first movie brad bird had proved that he care about his adult audience.
Yeah, that's a thing. I am a kid but I still love that dark theme you know because if you don't feel the THREAT for the heroes if the villain or movie itself is not dark enough. I think that Incredibles 2 HAD one dark scene though: Screenslaver controlling Pizza Boy is kind of messed up if you think about it. Screenslaver can basically control anyone and that's a little dark! Not saying better or darker than the almighty SYNDROME but Screenslaver was a little dark too!
I disagree completely. I thought Incredibles 2 was way worse than the original. The story was less interesting, the villain sucked, the characters were static, and there was a ton of filler. The only thing I can slightly agree with is the animation is better, but that's kind of a given with Pixar.
The story was not interesting for you? It's a good one... and what makes the story good is it's villain. I understand that she is nothing compared to SYNDROME but that is an interesting concept for a villain! But again, everyone can have their own opinions... and I respect yours :D However, I will stick with my opinion :D
@Rajatava Kar Yes,because women being in high positions in patriarchal society simply because she`s related to a less competent but more economically advantaged man =feminism,right?No,it equals reality!And no,not all men are idiots but most are!
Wow this video was amazing. 👍 I also agree with your list. Although something I've never understood is why Violet wants to be "normal" in the first movie. Anyway, I pre-ordered the second one, I loved it!
Let me tell you. This movie holds a special place in my heart when I was a kid. I love this movie. I love that so much as a kid. I had the toys as a kid. I had the giant robot as a kid which I love so much and and as an adult now. I still love this movie. The sequel though I actually did enjoy the sequel lot. It was very intense, felt serious. And it was very interesting. I actually like both first and the second one they both really are good
I guess the story in Incredibles 1 was better but it doesn't hit as hard. It doesn't give me the same sense of fear. Also I did not predict the plot twist as easy as you did. On first sight, yes I thought Evylin would be a bad guy but that changed when screenslaver came. I thought that screensaver would be a male. And I do think that we get a lot more of Jack-Jack in this film and I really find Violet's story arc in this movie in this arc to be much more interesting. Surely you can understand that. And I find both of these movies to be very dark.
I think even in terms of action, I'd still go for part one. I just adore the scenes where Dash gets chased, or where Elastigirl sneaks into the train. And as you said, the finale is a way better too. Incredibles 2 obviously has better animation quality, but that's to be expected if it's released 14 years later.
I like the Incredibles 2 more. Maybe you could predict the screen slavers identity but I was clueless about who the real Villain was. The reveal hit me with supperize the second it happened and I love supperizes
After watching your CW video I'm extremely disappointed. Do you not see the feminist/men are idiots agenda in this movie? WARNING, SPOILERS AHEAD. Winston wants to bring "supers" back into the light and have them be accepted and loved again. So who does he choose to focus on? Not Mr. Incredible, not the whole family, not even Frozone, but Elastigirl. Keep in mind that she has the same powers as Plastic Man who is essentially a moron and comic relief in the comics. This leaves Bob/Mr. Incredible at home to look after the kids, which he fails miserably at. I fully admit that women are better caretakers than men are, but the writers went over the top to make Bob look useless and inept. Then we have Winston and Evelyn. the brother and sister that run the company. As stated before Winston loves supers and wants them to be loved and accepted again. It turns out that he's so obsessed with this notion that he can't even see that his own sister is Screen Slaver. So we have another inept man that gets outsmarted by a woman and the woman is his sister no less. Now to save everyone a lot of time, yes I know I'm a misogynist pig and a clueless man because I don't understand all the nuances of the story and I twisted the plot to fit my misogynist agenda. Now that I've taken that off the table let's have an intelligent debate.
Think about it the first part was mostly about mr incredible The second part is mostly about elastigorl So the third part is probably about one of the kids
Were you joking about Violet's attitude? I was under the impression that it was clear that they were trying to make her seem like it was that time of the month.
Did you know in the incredibles 2, when were at the meeting with mr incredible, eastigirl and frozone. We see the omnidroid again as a cameo fighting frozone on the screen. Beacause the omnidroid was suppost to kill frozone, before mirage finds out that hes with mr incredible.
You know, im of the unpopular opinion of the second is better. Sure, Screenslaver is predictable but her motivation is way more realistic. I mean syndromet is mad at Mr Incredible because of a childhood grudge. I mean WTH?! Also this movie is way more funny which i LOVE
Question: is there a single scene in I2 you can imagine people coming back to over and over again on YT for years to come? You know, like Buddy Spiked, 100 Mile Dash or Kronos Unveiled?
What I wish that could happen is that you know how Disney XD did a continuation of Big Hero 6? They can do that but for Incredibles but like when they were younger when the supers were legal like how all the villains and the hero’s we saw in The Incredibles eliminated
please stop, even making this video is encouraging the incredibles 2 supporters. don't get me wrong it's a good film, but the first film is lightyears ahead of it, and people who think that the second film is better just baffle me. great vid btw
i like both but maybe its because some people like little kids were not born at the time the first one came out and just happened to see the second one this year
@@paperchasindude6578 The Villain and the tension climate were the only better things in the first one imo. The second has a better character writing, a better humor, better action scenes, and was overall more entertaining to me. Again, just my opinion.
@@tomytatopom5283 well I mean everything you said was true except better character writing cause they took away the family aspect and just put elastagirl in everything
Off-topic, but can I point out that modern technology popped up out of nowhere in Incredibles 1 and 2? Like the hyperloop system and Syndrome's computer system (which Mr. Incredible understood to an extent, that implies the use of computers in the mainstream). In 1962.
The intro for this was down right stunning. As was your jurassic world vs video. I love your channel so much. Btw when will you be releasing your Ghostbusters Vs video?
For as I do love both movies, there really is no comparison.
Thanks so much for the nice words buddy. I put a lot of work into some of these intros and I am so glad that you like them. The Ghostbusters versus video is going to take a while. As I was writing the script I realised that there is SO MUCH to talk about. So this will definitely be one of my more longer versus videos. And I want to make sure that I can make it as great as possible. So it will take a while, but in the meantime I will have plenty more on the way.
@@EricCarter12 no problem bro. You do a good job by making me excited for every video that comes out anyway. And that's fine if it I going to take a while because i can wait for as long as possible. Keep up the amazing work and soon you will become alot more popular than you are now!
Thanks again buddy. I REALLY appreciate it. :D
@@EricCarter12np again :D. just one more thing (I'm so sorry if I'm talking to much or I'm annoying it's just love commenting on your vids because of how good they are) have you seen Disney's jungle book. If so i would love to see a VS video of the jungle book vs mowgli by Warner bros because i would love to see your opinion of disney and Warner bros movies outside of the DCEU or the MCU. It would be quite facinating to see your opinion on who portrays which better.
The suicide scene was really well done. As a kid, I had no idea why a man was falling off the building. I just assumed that someone pushed him off or something.
I thought he was filming for a movie and there was safe cushion at the bottom
I couldn't actually hear what he said when we said 'You ruined my death!' I could hear properly and just assumed he fell
me too I don't know if he did commit suicide
Same
When Oliver Sansweet yelled at Mr. Incredible for "ruining his death," I only thought it was funny as a kid because I could not imagine anyone in real life getting that angry about somebody stopping them from attempting suicide.
Yeah no one ever talks about how dark it was for a kids movie at the time to show a man attempt Suicide.
No because it was made 14 years ago it was fine u probably never saw loony tunes or Tom and Jerry
Can we stop calling this movie a kids movie? It's clearly directed to the entire family
"a faaaaaaamly picture"
For parents, maybe. Kids don't give a flying fuck about death, at least as long as it's relatively clean, without much gore involved. I can guarantee you that nobody below the age of, say, 14 who saw the original Incredibles when it came out was in any way disturbed by it. Hell, to me, brought up on Tom 'n Jerry, suicide was something I associated with comedy.
Most of the time, people complaining about this stuff are just attention-whoring on Twitter. Like a blonde white gender studies graduate moaning about the cultural appropiation of an afro.
When I was a kid, I didn't understand it was suicide. I just thought he accidentally fell. That's actually extremely ballsy, now that you bring it up.
Are we gonna ignore the fact that they really suck at stopping bank heists in these movies...
Well, Mr.Incredible did it quite good in the first movie. He saved a cat AND got these bank robbers, without destroying half of the city.
But why bother because “The Banks are Insured” so who cares if innocents die?
You are a rude person
I can't believe anyone would ever give a thumbs up to you
@@rjkoenig3343
Gtfo
Dash didn’t get any spotlight in incredibles 2😭
Are you freaking blind you blasted kid or adult
RJ Koenig he has a point that 100 mile dash in the first movie was hella cool but he sucked in the second movie
Ikr! Like all he does is do math homework and make jokes. They didn't explore more with his character which they should have done, same with Violet.
@@rjkoenig3343 i think you're the blind one here...
@KJ Beast I think Violet was better with showcasing her powers in the second movie compared to the first movie. However... 100 mile dash would forever be one of my favorite moments in cinema history.
I was actually waiting for something similar that entire movie, and that's my fault for getting my hopes up. Violet and Mrs Incredible was amazing in the second movie though, same with Jack Jack. Just high-key wish Mr Incredible and Dash had more secenes.
You didn’t say anything about the music. The best part BY FAR about BOTH movies.
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Story, storytelling, pacing, character development, tone consistency, etc are much more important than music
@paulchucles no I’m saying that if you take out the current music for the movie and replace it with a worse score, it won’t bother me much. I can’t really say the same about pacing, plot, and character development. However, if you don’t agree with me that’s fine. . .music really comes down to personal preference
I believe there's probably a good reason for Violet, she's a teenager, there's no moment in life more confusing and dramatic than your teens, hormones are all over the place, school wants to define you, your parents want to "guide" you... It sucks... And on top you are seen and expected to work/act as a superhero??? Man! I think her character was really well done. Maybe more explanation would have been good but it was really great
yea, but it seemed so sudden.
@@snubbiyu_biyu Vi's a teenager... need I say more?
Incredible 1 wins just because of the “where’s my super suit” line...
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Where's mah super suit!?!?!?!?!
what
@@MrGabeanator WHERE IS MY SUPER SUIT
i um put it away
The Screenslaver was really obvious because of her name. Elevlyn Dever? Evil Endeavor.
Incredibles 2 should be called *Elastigirl and her family.*
maaanja3D You mean the same way that the first film should be called Mr. Incredible and his family?
dim I guess you’re right and I don’t want to argue about this. I don’t know, her having the spotlight just didn’t bother me
Incredibles 2 = Jack Jack save a day
Lol XD
No that's a horrible title
The first had better action because of one scene. The 100 mile dash.
I'm sad Dash didn't really get a chance to use his powers like he did in the first one.
MrJoshVJT yeah. There was no one scene where he truly gets to utilize his speed
@@jchandlersabeast Elastagirl's and Jak Jak's power were expanded so much in this movie. Violet even got some cool scenes, where she could send shockwaves to intercept the falling debris at the start, and her fight with Void. Dash never got to stretch his legs, and I don't even remember Mr. Incredible having to lift anything heavy.
I (personally) think that they nerfed him here,Dash could just remove those goggles from there eyes
I feel like the first was more realistic. The second's character design made them feel more like cartoons. The first also had a more unique filming style, as they take these wider shots that continue to pan out as the scene progresses. The second felt more bland, as we get basic quick shots that make it a different experience, but not a bad one.
After 14 long years, Eric Carter finally dropped the incredibles vs the incredibles 2 video. Jk 😂😂
SHINDAINDIAN :0 14? I thought it was 15 years??
LaBoo T2609 idk
“The Incredibles 2 plot is predictable” THE MAIN VILLAIN’S NAME IS EVELYN DEAVOR, LITERALLY JUST MISPRONOUNCED EVIL ENDEAVOR
I think I pretty much agree with you - except that you boiled it down to "predictability". I think the real problem with the villain is much more about the lack of thematic/philosophical depth, instead of predictability.
my only problem with the second movie is dark tone and adult scenes werent enough. Other than that, the 2nd movie did a great job
in the firs movie we saw syndrome's super hero genocide, the deaths of henchmen,bad guys who have no problem with killing kids, some guy who committed suicide and elastigirl's pulls mr incredible home for a obvious thing.
i know i think too much for a child cartoon but still this is also a super hero movie and in the first movie brad bird had proved that he care about his adult audience.
Baris Bal The first film was surprisingly adult oriented, yeah, and it felt like an actual family movie, rather than just a kids movie. I think just quietly that it would've been impossible for the second film to follow such a success, just because the first film left very little unsolved. In a way, the plot felt almost like it was fan-generated, and the political environment of today means that the film couldn't tackle adult themes to the same degree of the first one. It was good, but the second one was definitely more of a kids film than a family film.
Violet's behaviour in the 2nd movie is totally nornal. She's a teenage girl, which is one of the most scariest creatures on the planet when they get angry.
*normal*
that feeling when you weren't around when the first incridibles came out
Jesus Christ, I'm old.
Lol I remember watching it in theaters, it was fucking awesome
Coming late, but I can relate. Back then I was a 2-year-old, going to 3. One and a half year after that, I finally saw it, and just kept watching everytime I found it on TV
I think it is pretty clear that you don't have kids. The children are far more developed in the 2nd movie and pretty much every parent, once their kids are teens, realize that all teenagers come across as mentally unstable. Violet was completely believable considering what happened to her.
The second movie is bullshit in that aspect
I think violet being angry was supposed to be puberty or mood swings or something
Imo, what I love about the 2nd Incredibles is that Helen is a great example of how a mother can be a superhero without losing her nurturing side. Helen, imo, is one of the best examples of a strong female protagonist.
The first is infinite times better
Heck The Incredibles 2 is just average in general
story was weak. to much going on. I dont kno why they had to put cussing in it. Its like comon now
You should do a tv vs series like clone wars 2003 vs clone wars 2008 that would be cool
I understand where he comes from
OMG, for two weeks I have been waiting for this vs video and today I decided to watch all your vs videos from the Lego Batman Movie vs The Lego Movie to The Nun vs the Conjuring 2 and when I was done, I checked your home page and I could not stop geeking out. As always, great job on this vs video Eric. Incredibles 2 is definitely in my top 3 favorite movies of the year with Infinity War and Fallen Kingdom.
Finally another person who likes fallen kingdom. That movie is so underrated. It has so much tension in it in every dinosaur chase scene!
Definitely, I liked it better than the first Jurassic World and I would give it a 9/10.
I would give it a 8.5! Also I think IndoRaptor is much better and scarier than that T-Rex wannabe from the first movie. IndoRaptor was much scarier than a normal raptor tbh...
I just want the bad guy to have real superpowers
I guess Brad Bird sees it as generic (maybe, idk hahaha) since both movies feature a human villain. But I guess, that's what makes these movies stand out from the other superhero movies: they're fighting against empowered, complex, smart villainous humans rather than a classic superpowered-villain.
@@naniwaluckybi wow, I never thought of it that way! Good point!
Wow, that Violent rant haha.
Perfect video, on point as always!
The Incredibles 2 will never be on parr with the first film
9:42 I think that first argument is a little invalid simply because the second movie is in fact a sequel. The reason they wouldn’t be more memorable is because they didn’t have to develop their characters. The makers did such a good job on the first that they felt that they didn’t need to develop more. You even said that the portrayal was so good that they were very memorable
Not always. If you can create something amazing, you are able to give more depth and even more meaningful events to the characters. Shrek 2 is a great example, which not only is considered to be better than the first one (that's relative), but the sequel gave much more depth to the characters making more impactful moments.
Violet and Dash are exactly like my brother and I, will piss each other off and fight at all costs, yet as soon as one of us is in trouble, the other is always gonna rush in to help out
I still can't get over how good the animation grew from 1 to 2
So being vindicated by your hero is more scarring than losing your parents to a robber. I feel like there's something wrong with that.
Do Logan vs The dark knight
The dark knight sucks
@Calvin Bowers man of steel is better
@WWE 4 life I think bane is better than the joker jack Nicholson is great the best batman movie is the dark knight rises and man of steel is awsome the best superhero movie ever I don't care about what you say
TDK wins
Sebastien O. I like Infiity War more than both, it just felt like the ultimate superhero movie package and then some.
i didn't know that it was even a suicide when i was a kid I thought someone told him to jump and that they were going to chatch him and when he said "you ruined my death that's what you did." i thought he said "you ruined my neck."
I know. Every kid had a different understanding to what had happened in that scene. When I revisited the movie as an adult so I could make this review, I was shocked to find out what this scene was REALLY about. It's really dark stuff.
Same
I enjoyed both, however I liked the first one much more. You cover everything I had to say, but i wanted to add another reason. I think for this is that the setting of a hero mixed with average daily life was much better in the first one. In the first one it had a great story about an underground hero going through a midlife crisis. We got a much better believable view of how bob felt about life and missing the glory days and what he tries to do to acquire it. We also saw a lot more about how his family and those around him are affected by it.
In the second one, it felt more like I was watching two different movies. One a slice of life comedy about a stay at home dad, the other a predictable mystery action. This dissonance in the second one is a part of why I dont like it as much.
sequels aren't always as good as the original movies but incredibles 2 proved it wrong this one was almost as good as the original with little thing to criticize so if they r gonna make us wait for another 14 years to release incredibles 3 with quality contents as its first 2 movies then i am ready to wait.
no just no. The 2nd one was not what i or anyone was waiting 14 years for.
Sameeeee!! I figured out Evelyn was screenslaver minutes maybe even seconds into first seeing her
She was too obvious.
Same, but i thought that and her brother is gonna be evil, but only she was lol
This video is incredible! (No pun intended) You should do more vs. videos about Pixar movies.
I needed this!!! Thanks so much Eric!
Omg Eric you are my favorite channel and reviewer! Thanks for noticing me lol!
Lol, no problem buddy. :)
8:38 *Me screaming high pitch when someone sneaks up like a poltergeist*
Huh, nice vid and all, but if the Incredibles house was blown up in the first film, then where'd they get the retro suits for their interview?
That is a VERY good question. I did not think about that. Well spotted buddy.
I had the same question, and I was thinking they somehow survived the explosion bc Edna designed them with the same indestructible material as the red suits. But then again, Syndrome's robot tore through Mr. Incredible's suit, so idk
My other question is where did the stroller from the beginning of the second movie come from. Incredibles 2 picks up right where the first one left off, and at the end of the first movie Jack Jack is on Elastigirl's back, but at the start of the second (at the exact same line of the end of the first movie) Jack Jack is in a stroller. This is prolly a really stupid detail nobody cares about lol but still
Turquoise Penguin bro lemme blow ur mind real quick fam, in the first film, where did the incredibles stay between the track meet and their house exploding. The reason why I ask this, is because after the incredibles in the second film are escorted to a motel, Dicker says that their part of the government is going out due to recent events right? To me that sounded like the first time that they're having this conversation, like as if between NOW and the HOUSE EXPLOSION, this is the first time they're talking about houses or whatever. But to be fair, the track meet was hinted at being a time skip, so i'm not sure, might need to rewatch stuff.
I figured if Edna designed them she would have extra for them just in case such an emergency would a raise.
I love how these movies humanize superheroes.
Bob flinches before the train strikes him. Sure he can stop it, doesn't mean its not gonna hurt.
Bob and Lucius (Frozone) laughing and sharing stories about their old battles (and i love that they make fun of some villain tropes, like monologuing to the hero)
Helen and Bob having turbulence in their relationship
Bob going through a midlife crisis
Dash and Violet getting into typical sibling fights and arguments
and then of course the sociatal effects of supers and how that would cause a division between supers and non supers, sort of like the division of benders and non benders in Avatar the Last Airbender
Hey! I hope you are going to be big on youtube in one day, you deserve it
When Disney and Pixar have better villains than marvel
Wow, I surprisingly agree with all your points. The biggest disappointment I have for the sequel was its lack of equal focus on the children's development as superheroes sans Jack Jack. I loved Violet the most and to see her get reduced to an upset teenager just blows as an arc. Then there's Dash who just lost his fire. Original one's better for me. The second one did not allow much time to breath.
The characters were much better in the 2nd one tbh, Jack Jack, And violet are so much more likeable
You are smarter than Msmojo! This is a correct list!
Ikr
This is really cool because on a hike just yesterday my mom and I were talking about the first Incredibles vs. the second, and how the first had so many memorable scenes and a great villain, where overall we couldn't remember anything from the second one. We know we enjoyed it, we just didn't remember specifically what, you know? Just goes to show the power of--and what goes into--a truly memorable movie. This video is great!! :D
Can you plz do mission impossible fallout vs ???
I will get to it eventually. My plan is to compare ALL Mission Impossible films to each other.
I'm thinking the actions of Syndrome killing off Supers one by one may explain the circumstances on how Screenslaver came to be personally.
Great video. Really enjoyed watching it.
Great video as always Eric, but I CANNOT believe you didn’t talk about the fantastic score in these films!
The score in the movies are great. I made mention to the music ramping up in tension during the story segment. But yeah, the music in both films (especially the first) is very good.
Ah my apologies, I just didn’t see a section for the music.
One thing the first film has over the second film (for me) was the fact that I grew up with it, and so doing so, discovered just how intricate the film was. It was a wonderful, even magical, experience discovering a new layer to the story as I went through a new phase in life.
For instance, when I watched the film after happening to oversee a big fight between my folks, suddenly, the fight between Hellen and Bob felt very real.
As great as the second film is, and as much as it did make me feel like a kid again (in more ways than one, I caught a bad case of vertigo and tossed my cookies the first time I watched the first film, and got a minor case with the rollercoasteresque camera movements in the second), I have grown as a person, and even try to write multilayered stories myself now, so now every layer that could be uncovered is more-or-less obvious to me now.
What I'm trying to say is, the first film grew up with me, the second film did not, though that's a good thing, if The Dark Crystal has taught me anything, it's that exoteric films do _horribly_ at the Box Office.
That said, I love the second film and I even was decently surprised by the twist (to me it was more about which of the Deavors was Screenslaver), and through it is not without it's flaws that knock it _just_ below the first film, it's still good enough for me to enjoy it just fine, but I hope they address the shortcomings in a third film, whenever that is.
My favorite movie reviewer doing a verses on two of the next films of all time? Oh boy, I can already tell it's gonna be a great day!
Anyone else sad that he broke the rule of threes? He did the "Buddy, (MY NAMES INCREDIBOY) joke two times, but didn't cut away to the "Buddy?(My name's not Buddy! And it's not INCREDIBOY either!)
Incredibles 2 is like Toy Story 2, not better than the first one but a perfect sequel and a great movie in general. In my opinion some characters, the action,cinematography and animation are better in the second one but other characters (and the villian), the story and climax are way better in the first one.
The scene of the screenslaver´s monologue and battle with elastigirl is amazing and I think that is better than any scene of Sindrome in the Incredibles 1
Sorry I didn't comment earlier but great video can't wait for more. I'm here with you to the end. Just so you know this is B. Wise.
Please do best Pixar film. Mine is
1. WALL-E
2. The Incredibles
3. Coco
Yeah those are cool
Elastigirl is just thiccer in a higher resolution
"No other superhero movie at this point in time has successfully incorporated politics into a superhero film." You forgot Watchmen... Probably the best commentary atm on superheroes effecting politics in modern society.
Ngl if it wasn’t for Spider-verse I woulda easily called Incredibles 2 my favorite animated super hero movie of 2018.
But as is it’s still a great time 5 years later! Here’s hoping they make a third movie.
Wow your content is amazing! You deserve way more subs!
Thanks a lot buddy. :) I am so glad that you're enjoying my content.
Will you do a vs video on the 2 stranger things seasons
I don't think so. But I will do a "Let's Binge Watch" episode of Stranger Things Season 2 eventually.
I didn’t know syndrome died.. for a kids movie I thought he was just flung or smt for laughs this really got dark though. Hopefully for the Incredibles 3 they’ll bring back syndrome that would qualify for a good plot and being the villain he is he can’t end like that!
But thay would ruin how the incredibles ended
What did you think caused that explosion?
Great content. Subbed
Thanks!
I think violet was so angry because she was older in the 2nd film, so her personality would’ve changed and puberty hormones would make her more angry so I think that’s why she was more angry. And Dash was probably as old as violet was in the first one so that’s why he was more angry
Man! You give out some really good points for these movies. Good job! Subscribe button clicked!
9:21 Wow, I completely forgot they existed.
For me, *The Incredibles* was a perfect 10 out of 10. My personal favorite Pixar film. And *Incredibles 2* was almost as good as the original, save for the plot being a bit more predictable. So I'd give it an excellent 9 out of 10- still fantastic, just not quite perfect.
Love the attention to detail in the starting credits. I got so engrossed in the review that I forgot I haven't seen Incredibles 2 yet! Didn't spoil too much though. How did I miss the 'spoiler' warning at the beginning??
Ahhhh good memories
What?!
Jack Jack annoyed the fuck out of me in Incredibles 2
Same here. They over-used his powers, and when he fought the Raccoon I was actually rooting for the Raccoon to win.
What an intro! The best I have seen in a versus video in RUclips and I also liked the first movie more and also cuz of screenslaver. I am glad that I am here in this channel and can you plz make jungle book vs Mowgli legend of the jungle. Which one did you prefer Venom or Spiderman homecoming?
Thanks buddy. If you liked the intro of this versus video then check out my Avengers Infinity War VS Civil War and Jurassic World VS Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom videos. I give them some cool intros to.
Yes, I am planning on doing Jungle Book VS Mowgli at some point.
Oh that is a good question. I think I would give the edge to Spider-Man Homecoming. It wasn't anywhere NEAR a mess with its story like Venom was.
Thanks you are the best RUclipsr and I have almost seen every versus video and I saw that your it versus video had reached A MILLION VIEWS! obviously you deserve it cuz you are just the best :) and yeah venom sucked and Spiderman 3 was Way better for me too but the first Spiderman in my personal opinion was the best. I have seen your civil war veesus and also the Jurassic world they are all awesome they are better than the crap the other RUclipsr made. Keep it up and I have shared all your versus videos to my friends (they all love it). Once again nice work and I want to see more of it from a RUclipsr like you.
Thank you. You are*
Also are you going to do a the it chapter two versus video?
If Article 13 doesn't take effect then yes I will. :)
I think Incredibles 2 was a better movie than the first Incredibles just by a little. The Animation is better and I think even the story is more amazing. Even the climax has more action. The only problem it has is a villain problem, yes the villain is a good one, but nothing compared to Syndrome. However, the concept of the villain's PLAN was so interesting and I always wanted a villain who could do stuff like that. However, Syndrome is way better.
my only problem with the second movie is dark tone and adult scenes werent enough. Other than that, the 2nd movie did a great job
in the firs movie we saw syndrome's super hero genocide, the deaths of henchmen,bad guys who have no problem with killing kids, some guy who committed suicide and elastigirl's pulls mr incredible home for a obvious thing.
i know i think too much for a child cartoon but still this is also a super hero movie and in the first movie brad bird had proved that he care about his adult audience.
Yeah, that's a thing. I am a kid but I still love that dark theme you know because if you don't feel the THREAT for the heroes if the villain or movie itself is not dark enough. I think that Incredibles 2 HAD one dark scene though: Screenslaver controlling Pizza Boy is kind of messed up if you think about it. Screenslaver can basically control anyone and that's a little dark! Not saying better or darker than the almighty SYNDROME but Screenslaver was a little dark too!
I disagree completely. I thought Incredibles 2 was way worse than the original. The story was less interesting, the villain sucked, the characters were static, and there was a ton of filler. The only thing I can slightly agree with is the animation is better, but that's kind of a given with Pixar.
The story was not interesting for you? It's a good one... and what makes the story good is it's villain. I understand that she is nothing compared to SYNDROME but that is an interesting concept for a villain! But again, everyone can have their own opinions... and I respect yours :D However, I will stick with my opinion :D
@Rajatava Kar Yes,because women being in high positions in patriarchal society simply because she`s related to a less competent but more economically advantaged man =feminism,right?No,it equals reality!And no,not all men are idiots but most are!
Wow this video was amazing. 👍 I also agree with your list. Although something I've never understood is why Violet wants to be "normal" in the first movie. Anyway, I pre-ordered the second one, I loved it!
Let me tell you. This movie holds a special place in my heart when I was a kid. I love this movie. I love that so much as a kid. I had the toys as a kid. I had the giant robot as a kid which I love so much and and as an adult now. I still love this movie. The sequel though I actually did enjoy the sequel lot. It was very intense, felt serious. And it was very interesting. I actually like both first and the second one they both really are good
I guess the story in Incredibles 1 was better but it doesn't hit as hard. It doesn't give me the same sense of fear. Also I did not predict the plot twist as easy as you did. On first sight, yes I thought Evylin would be a bad guy but that changed when screenslaver came. I thought that screensaver would be a male. And I do think that we get a lot more of Jack-Jack in this film and I really find Violet's story arc in this movie in this arc to be much more interesting. Surely you can understand that. And I find both of these movies to be very dark.
I think even in terms of action, I'd still go for part one. I just adore the scenes where Dash gets chased, or where Elastigirl sneaks into the train. And as you said, the finale is a way better too. Incredibles 2 obviously has better animation quality, but that's to be expected if it's released 14 years later.
This must have been difficult for you Eric
Hey, is it just me or he changed his original video?
@@MrFunnyman5260 did he?
@@Animefan-uk8pw didn't he disliked the second incredibles movie?
@@MrFunnyman5260 not really
Anyone noticed that, in its barebones context, Incredibles 2 follows the same story as Incredibles 1, except it’s focus on Helen instead of Bob?
I love Violet
I loved her in the first movie but not in the second one
@@aidanbarnes4290 I liked her in the second one. Better
BFF Vlogs 4Life but she was such a drama queen
3:49 it’s not
I like the Incredibles 2 more. Maybe you could predict the screen slavers identity but I was clueless about who the real Villain was. The reveal hit me with supperize the second it happened and I love supperizes
we need a part 3 brad bird
After watching your CW video I'm extremely disappointed. Do you not see the feminist/men are idiots agenda in this movie? WARNING, SPOILERS AHEAD.
Winston wants to bring "supers" back into the light and have them be accepted and loved again. So who does he choose to focus on? Not Mr. Incredible, not the whole family, not even Frozone, but Elastigirl. Keep in mind that she has the same powers as Plastic Man who is essentially a moron and comic relief in the comics. This leaves Bob/Mr. Incredible at home to look after the kids, which he fails miserably at. I fully admit that women are better caretakers than men are, but the writers went over the top to make Bob look useless and inept.
Then we have Winston and Evelyn. the brother and sister that run the company. As stated before Winston loves supers and wants them to be loved and accepted again. It turns out that he's so obsessed with this notion that he can't even see that his own sister is Screen Slaver. So we have another inept man that gets outsmarted by a woman and the woman is his sister no less.
Now to save everyone a lot of time, yes I know I'm a misogynist pig and a clueless man because I don't understand all the nuances of the story and I twisted the plot to fit my misogynist agenda. Now that I've taken that off the table let's have an intelligent debate.
Think about it the first part was mostly about mr incredible
The second part is mostly about elastigorl
So the third part is probably about one of the kids
Were you joking about Violet's attitude? I was under the impression that it was clear that they were trying to make her seem like it was that time of the month.
I haven't seen the film in a few years but in one of the ending scenes didn't Mr. Incredible pick up Jack Jack say "you have powers"?
No that was in Incredibles 2
Even though yes the second movie was perditable I still think it's better because of the action again my opinion
I understand but still
For kids = Incredibles 2
For adults and family = The Incredibles
DONE
Incredible 3 wins just joking
lol
Oh man, I really want Violet as a villian now!
I don't
Did you know in the incredibles 2, when were at the meeting with mr incredible, eastigirl and frozone. We see the omnidroid again as a cameo fighting frozone on the screen. Beacause the omnidroid was suppost to kill frozone, before mirage finds out that hes with mr incredible.
You know, im of the unpopular opinion of the second is better. Sure, Screenslaver is predictable but her motivation is way more realistic. I mean syndromet is mad at Mr Incredible because of a childhood grudge. I mean WTH?! Also this movie is way more funny which i LOVE
Me too but I like the villain sindrome better
Question: is there a single scene in I2 you can imagine people coming back to over and over again on YT for years to come? You know, like Buddy Spiked, 100 Mile Dash or Kronos Unveiled?
oh I love 100 Mile Dash and Kronos Unveiled
What I wish that could happen is that you know how Disney XD did a continuation of Big Hero 6? They can do that but for Incredibles but like when they were younger when the supers were legal like how all the villains and the hero’s we saw in The Incredibles eliminated
please stop, even making this video is encouraging the incredibles 2 supporters. don't get me wrong it's a good film, but the first film is lightyears ahead of it, and people who think that the second film is better just baffle me. great vid btw
Agreed, I will never understand anyone who likes the second movie more.
i like both but maybe its because some people like little kids were not born at the time the first one came out and just happened to see the second one this year
I wasn't born at the same time as the first one but I like the first incredibles more
Wow it's almost like people have different opinions.
yeah but every argument they have is invalid
The Good Samaritan law would protect Superheroes...
Today
The Incredibles - better plot
Incredibles 2 - Elasthicc girl
Better plot vs Better "Plot"
The second one is better to me
its their opinion just because you think something it does not mean someone else agrees
@@des9808 I've seen your videos you're hot
that's not me but im cute
@@paperchasindude6578 The Villain and the tension climate were the only better things in the first one imo. The second has a better character writing, a better humor, better action scenes, and was overall more entertaining to me. Again, just my opinion.
@@tomytatopom5283 well I mean everything you said was true except better character writing cause they took away the family aspect and just put elastagirl in everything
Lol when you said screenslaver at 2:29
Off-topic, but can I point out that modern technology popped up out of nowhere in Incredibles 1 and 2? Like the hyperloop system and Syndrome's computer system (which Mr. Incredible understood to an extent, that implies the use of computers in the mainstream). In 1962.