Excellent video. I'm a lifelong 928 fan and a 911 owner. But one of these days I'm going to get a GTS. Such a great machine. I drove one in Germany back in 2003 and that was an experience I won't forget. The high speed drive was solid like a train. The only car that I've driven that had similar solid feel is the S-Class Mercedes (which is completely different kind of car but you get the same feeling that you could drive it 250 km/h all day long and don't get stressed at all). 928's are amazing quality. Cheers.
Thanks so much for watching the video! I completely agree with you about how solid the cars feel at speed. They all do by the way. Getting an S4 gives up very little to a GTS frankly. I always tell folks that if you can't afford a GTS then get an '89 S4. 95% of the experience for less than half the price! That said, driving my '92 GTS on the A95 in Germany, between Munich and Austria, was a priceless experience! Just amazing!
I've owned two 928s, the first one was a '82 (4.5L), and the second one was a '91 S4 (Guards Red). They were two amazing cars. I regret the day that I sold my '91 to some guy from Texas. I saw it once in a car show video and they had installed some funny looking air induction system (YUCK!!) it was my baby....I owned a 996 after selling the '91, and although I loved it, it was no where near the fun it was to drive my 928 :-(
Larry, I have driven most all the P-cars since the 996 and I agree with you. You have to get to an996 Turbo to really be ahead of a late model 928, and a 997 might be close to an S4. I 997.2 would probably be the first NA 911 step above an S4 or GTS. Don’t get me wrong, I’ll have a 996 Or newer Turbo at some point, but a 928 is hard to beat. They were way ahead of their time!
Hola tengo un 928 del 89 manual 5 velocidades, lo estoy haciendo entero, motor, enbrague, suspension, absolutamente todo el conjunto,creo que tener una unidad en perfectas condiciones hoy en dia, es ya bastante dificil
Man ! Now that was the best video on the 928 model range I’ve ever seen! Loved the montage at the end, very tasty. If you ever want to sell your 92’ GTS in Silver or the white one let me know. Thanks 🙏🏻
Thanks so much. It was a passion project that I had been thinking of for many years! When I got laid off from my work in '09 I had time to indulge my creative side and make this documentary on my fav car! The white car sold about 6 years ago. It lives in a collection in Miami. It has a GPW 944 Turbo as a stablemate. I doubt I'll ever sell the '92.
The Porsche 928 is the sexiest car ever made. I fell in love at first sight. I love all the different generations as long as it has a manual transmission. I can tell the difference between all the different Porsche's especially the 928. I've ridden in several 911's over the years, and have an uncle with a 70's SC targa. I still hope to be able to afford a 928 some day. Thank you.
They are certainly great cars! The first Porsche I ever drove was my uncles brand new '84 Carrera Cab! I put several hundred miles on it over the years he had it. What a great car! That said, my '84 928S is certainly faster and more refined than that car was and at the time it was 50% more expensive. Now as a used car it is probably 25% the cost of that 911 cab! Just crazy good deals 928s are these days! Well, except the late model manual trans cars...those are crazy expensive. Especially the GTS!
@@pcar928fan black on black s4 1990 Australian delivered 75ks concourse kept in carcoon tight air pressure and 2 car covers also as 8m meticulous octapolar
This is the best 928 video on RUclips. The footage of Mark's racing is awesome and your concise no BS commentary is great, plus the Rock guitar tracks! Thank you so much for making this video and sharing with everyone! The 928 is the beast Porsche kept on a leash... I truly hope that Porsche will reactivate the 928 DNA for the 21st Century!
Thanks so much! Again, YOU ROCK!! I had wanted to do that video for a very long time. Pretty much since I got my first 928 in ‘96. It was just so hard to find info. I read everything I could get my hands on and then filtered it all down to the basics for the program. I ended up getting laid off in ‘09 so I had tine on my hands and figured it was the perfect time to shoot my video. I personally shot it, edited it, researched it, published it…everything. It was a BIG job, but at least I had the time and the ability! Mark sent me about 12 hours of video and I watched ALL of it and edited it down to that 15 min or so. There was quite a bit more that was great, but I just couldn’t fit it all in.
Hi! I‘m commenting about your 1984 ruby red video here because you‘ve turned the comments off on that video. You forgot to mention that Doug deMuro also misunderstood the use of the rear-seat sun-visor! He didn‘t realise that the sun-visor is meant to go BEHIND his head to protect his neck from the sunlight coming in through the rear window. Doug put the sun-visor down in front of his face and couldn’t figure out what the guys at Porsche were thinking when they built it. 🤪 When I watched his video I slapped my forehead and screamed at the computer „It‘s for the back of your head you twat!“ 😲
Oh damn. I didn’t mean to turn the comments off. I’ll check that later. I knew there was another stupid thing he said, that was it! Thanks much for the comment!
The car that got me addicted to Porsche's. First one was a 924 turbo, many 911s, Cayenne and Macan's. I had hoped the Panamera was going to be the new 928.
I don't know which I prefer..The very early 928 (78-79) without the sunroof and side protectors or the slightly later with sunroof (i like the 4 buttons on the console) but without side strip hmmmm
Tommy, it is easy for me. GTS all the way!! Only 406 imported to North America from '93-'95, 346hp, 369lb-ft Tq!!! Most comfortable and fastest of all the 928!! That said, I my close 2nd fav is the OB car! Lightest, most nimble, and simple as these cars go. I'll have a video about my 78 and 80 and 81 OB cars soon. Keep your eyes peeled and thanks for watching and commenting! All the best!
Cool review boss really interesting I never knew a lot about these cars being born in 82 but I knew when I was young somehow these cars were special and they were gorgeous
Thanks Richard! These cars are still beautiful today and the GTS and GT are both pretty good performers even by current standards. Had the car continued on it would probably cost $250k and have 750+ HP at this point…it would have to if it was to be competitive in its field (812 Fcar, top of line Aston and Bentley, etc). Sure would have been fun to watch it evolve through the years. I sure love looking at them in my garage and driving them on road and on track! Thanks for taking the time to watch my video and leave a comment Richard! Most appreciated!
An oversight on my part. I was really mostly focusing on the body styles of the cars and how they changed visually over the years. But, yes, I should have mentioned that the 5 speed S4 was called the GT from 90/91 and there were both S4 5 speed models as well as S4 GT models for ‘89.
@@pcar928fan Thanks, I made the comment as I was watching, you talk about the engine on the GT, so you bring it up, but I see your intention/logic...makes sense...i'll continue watching
Sorry you didn’t like some of the wheels in the video, but thanks for watching. Some folks like to mod their cars and wheels are an easy way to kind of “make it your own” without having to spend a lot of money, so I have always liked seeing what others have done, not that it is my taste either, but it is nice to see some variations that can work on a 928.
As I have mentioned before...I wish I could do that. Back when I made this video I didn't have the technology to turn down the background noise. So the problem in part of the video is wind noise...you can still hear the engine over the wind at some points so I decided to lay music over the top...the A95 drive in the GTS the problem was background music that would have got me a copyright strike so I had to add music over the top or mute the sound on that part of the video completely... There were no good solutions that were off the shelf. I am sure a pro could have done better with it, but that is not me now and especially not back then. Sorry for the inconvenience.
I got to enjoy these back in 1979 when they were still a virtual unknown on the streets. Let me tell you, NOTHING compared! To this day it still rocks my world. A Pasha interior on an OB 928S with Eurospec headlights is unbeatable style.
I didn’t even see my first 928 live and in person till the early ‘90’s! I was a car guy living in the D/FW area and never ran across a 928! Crazy!! Love them now of course! You were lucky to have such an early introduction! Thanks for watching!
Yup , same here , in 1980 my Boss in germany had the first Edition. a few guys and our Boss ,Manfred took a trip down to South France . And at some point he let me drive it through an old Village 30 minutes into the country from Cannes. i was 19 and didn't drink but the other guys did , so i got to drive it hahaha . NEVER for get that Feeling . Heavy Big car for me at the time . Looking at a couple now old body style but 1985.5 , we'll see. ;-)
Yeah he did! Mark is an incredible driver! He told me once that the west coast guys were giving him a hard time and saying he was only beating them because he had this big high HP motor in his 928. So, he got tired of listening to them, bought a 911 Cup car and beat them all in that. He won the Perelli Cup West championship! He showed them. Now he beats everyone on bicycles!
@@pcar928fan it's all in the Foot anyways, well at least a big part of it. you got to have the ability to read what is happening 5 cars in front of you. AND again knowing how to accelerate at the right split second. I am not by all means a pro race driver but here in Michigan on Woodward Ave. i kick sometimes a Ferarri's ass, a Camaro, Plymouth hellcat or Porsche doesn't matter. and i do that with a 2022 Odyssey 280Hp!! hahaha
Great video but I was surprised that you didn't talk about transmissions, ie, the auto v 5 speed debate. Or did I miss it? Which do you prefer? Cheers from Oz.
Derek, I meant to reply to you, and thought I had, but I am not seeing it here. I did not talk about the 5 speed vs auto because I am in a wheelchair and can only drive the auto cars, so I can't really add anything to the debate. It is clear what collectors want...5 speed manual! Is that a better transmission than the auto? Eh, depends on what you are looking for a guess. The nice thing is that the auto does not really hold the 928 back so the price difference between the two should be FAR less than it is at the moment. Also, many have the wrong idea about how many 5 speed cars were produced. I think in every model year at least 30% of the production was manual and for '95 (in the US) nearly HALF were 5 speed. Of course we only received 77 cars for all of North America in that last model year, but you are nearly as likely to come across a 5 speed as you are an auto. Another interesting tid bit is that for the first model year, 1978, only about 10% of cars had the automatic. SO 90% of that first year for 5 speed cars. There was NOT a single year where the reverse of that is true! All the best and thanks for your comment and question!
I had a aromatic, then I sold it and bought a 5speed manual, that I stil have . no doubt in my mind, the manual is more funny and gives me more pleasure. I loved the automatic to , but the manual gives me more sports feeling. Still I gues it’s individual what people prefer, Best regards from Norway Ps the automatic was a 80 mod the manual is a 85 model ,
Not sure to what part of the video you are referring…the 85 and 86, and 86.5 all have the same 5.0 32 valve engine rated at 288hp and 304Tq (I think that is the correct factory Tq number). The 86.5 got the front suspension and brakes from the S4 which is what differentiates it from the 86 and makes it more desirable for sure.
Joe, all the music came from either the iMovie app that I edited with, or from Ronald Jenkees (I think I spelled that right), much of his music is now part of iMovie in fact. Thanks for the question.
Not sure what part you are referring to specifically, but there were two problems. While on the A-95 in the ‘92 GTS there was music playing that would have earned me a copy write strike, the on track stuff in the ‘88 S4 the problem was the wind noise. It was UNREAL loud on the recording. I had a helmet on so I didn’t notice. If I had known I would have rolled up the passenger window (they require drivers window be down at our track events.). So that is why there is loud music. The only other option at the time was to turn the music off completely…
Not sure what you are referring to here. I have not driven my P-cars in the snow but many do. Well, some do anyway. I don’t need to and we rarely get snow in central Texas anyway.
Oh! Yes yes! Those wheels are SUPER rare, but I’m with you! If you can afford a 928, especially when they were new, you could afford a beater for snow days!
Never ,never, ever buy one of these money pits. The engine is one of the most expensive engines to rebuild. Everything breaks, and cost a fortune to fix. Brakes,shocks, bearings,fuel pumps,,virtually one thing after another,it never ends. Better to buy a late 60's muscle car,that's as complex as a lawn mower, and runs like a lawn mower. I have owned British cars,Italian cars ,German cars and a host of Japanese cars and trucks. Never again will I pour money down a rat hole with used Euro cars.
There are certainly parts of the 928 that are a challenge, like the AC system...those can break a mere mortal. Most of the car is very solid and the parts are much cheaper than Ferrari parts. Anyone with reasonable wrenching skills, a connection to the large and vibrant 928 community and an internet connection can maintain one of these beasts. Best of all the very good ones and most 5 speeds are going up in value right now. Heck a friend of mine has a $10M car collection and his favorite grand touring car is his 5 speed 928 GTS. He used to have a 355 Ferrari but he sold it because he said it was to expensive to maintain. Think about that for a minute. A guy spends $10 million on cars, old, new, exotic, mundane and to him a 355 is too expensive to maintain! Yowza!
@@pcar928fan Don't get me wrong. My favorite car of all time is a 63' Jag E Type. I will get one,after I finish setting up another startup company. I also love 1999 BMW 850 V-12s. The most beautiful car I think.
@@pcar928fan The best lesson I learned regarding my years of building hotrods and muscle cars was to start buying fully restored cars,and quit buying project's. The return on investment for me anyway was .50 cents on the dollar. It was pretty common from what I heard from other car builders. A few really adept guys made money with their cars,but I was never one of them. Fun stuff though.
Jim, I’m with you on the E-type! Drop dead gorgeous! I tried to get my grandfather to agree to rebuild one with me in the late 80’s but he didn’t have it in him. Was just too much for him to bite off at 65. I’ve had a few BMW M cars but the 850 never really did much for me. Enjoy those great cars when you get them!!
@@pcar928fan Each car buff develops opinions based on their own experience regarding the wonderful world of cars and trucks. I have always admired Porsches, Ferrari's,and for a time, Mercedes Benz. I owned a defense company some years ago dealing with armored vehicles, among other things. Before that,I worked with Mercedes Benz Road Racing and MB Trucks. I have forever been a great fan of any type of machine from cars,aircraft, battleships, tanks, ad infinitum. I admired your zeal with the 928's. One of my great friends had two of these,one was a one off red 928 convertible lol. I know....Porsche never made a 928 convertible. It was a custom vehicle. Pretty cool. I have about had 45 years of owning European cars,and I had a great love for these cars
@@pcar928fan they are the best of trans axle porches ever made. i own 928s4 and 944s mint condition and these cars the one of kind of those 80s. hold on to them because their price will only will go up and so hard to find the good ones now days. most of them are junks. Not so many good ones left out there. enjoy it all.
@@pcar928fan Yes you are right ok ones goes for now 20k and nice ones 40 k above and crappy ones junky ones for 15ks lolGreat to hear. Make sure hold on to them all. Now days all the cars will be electric and these cars are golden great cars. Pure analog, hand made good German muscle 1st Porsche Trans-axle cars and now days nothing like it. I want also 968 for the collection as well.
Awesome cars these 928's! Stunning design and still futuristic, great fast touring and built for life!
I completely agree! The 928, especially the GTS and to a slightly lesser extent the S4, look amazingly modern even by today's standards.
Excellent video. I'm a lifelong 928 fan and a 911 owner. But one of these days I'm going to get a GTS. Such a great machine. I drove one in Germany back in 2003 and that was an experience I won't forget. The high speed drive was solid like a train. The only car that I've driven that had similar solid feel is the S-Class Mercedes (which is completely different kind of car but you get the same feeling that you could drive it 250 km/h all day long and don't get stressed at all). 928's are amazing quality. Cheers.
Thanks so much for watching the video! I completely agree with you about how solid the cars feel at speed. They all do by the way. Getting an S4 gives up very little to a GTS frankly. I always tell folks that if you can't afford a GTS then get an '89 S4. 95% of the experience for less than half the price! That said, driving my '92 GTS on the A95 in Germany, between Munich and Austria, was a priceless experience! Just amazing!
I've owned two 928s, the first one was a '82 (4.5L), and the second one was a '91 S4 (Guards Red). They were two amazing cars. I regret the day that I sold my '91 to some guy from Texas. I saw it once in a car show video and they had installed some funny looking air induction system (YUCK!!) it was my baby....I owned a 996 after selling the '91, and although I loved it, it was no where near the fun it was to drive my 928 :-(
Larry, I have driven most all the P-cars since the 996 and I agree with you. You have to get to an996 Turbo to really be ahead of a late model 928, and a 997 might be close to an S4. I 997.2 would probably be the first NA 911 step above an S4 or GTS. Don’t get me wrong, I’ll have a 996 Or newer Turbo at some point, but a 928 is hard to beat. They were way ahead of their time!
Funny similiar story two 89's s4....loved em' sold em and bought a 996...love itg but it isnt a 928s4...cheers!
Its not evolution it's development
As a science guy I liked the sound of evolution…which is natures form of development.
ja wolh! : entwicklung
The ridiculous music is completely unnecessary. You ruined a great piece of video. Smartin up.
It was either that or no video at all! SO would you rather have never seen it?
AMAZING how many TOP cars TODAY have practically the SAME mid dash design!
Hola tengo un 928 del 89 manual 5 velocidades, lo estoy haciendo entero, motor, enbrague, suspension, absolutamente todo el conjunto,creo que tener una unidad en perfectas condiciones hoy en dia, es ya bastante dificil
The 928 was a masterpiece in design! Still love this car to this day.
Absolutely!! One of only a few really timeless automobiles! Lovely to drive as well as behold!
I have the finest example in my possession
@@tasmaniancaptain7768 Awesome!!! I wish I were in your shoes.
Man ! Now that was the best video on the 928 model range I’ve ever seen! Loved the montage at the end, very tasty. If you ever want to sell your 92’ GTS in Silver or the white one let me know. Thanks 🙏🏻
Thanks so much. It was a passion project that I had been thinking of for many years! When I got laid off from my work in '09 I had time to indulge my creative side and make this documentary on my fav car! The white car sold about 6 years ago. It lives in a collection in Miami. It has a GPW 944 Turbo as a stablemate. I doubt I'll ever sell the '92.
I think this the best video reportage about the 928. Thank you from Spain
Thank you so much for the compliment and for watching the video! More to come!
The Porsche 928 is the sexiest car ever made. I fell in love at first sight. I love all the different generations as long as it has a manual transmission. I can tell the difference between all the different Porsche's especially the 928. I've ridden in several 911's over the years, and have an uncle with a 70's SC targa. I still hope to be able to afford a 928 some day. Thank you.
They are certainly great cars! The first Porsche I ever drove was my uncles brand new '84 Carrera Cab! I put several hundred miles on it over the years he had it. What a great car! That said, my '84 928S is certainly faster and more refined than that car was and at the time it was 50% more expensive. Now as a used car it is probably 25% the cost of that 911 cab! Just crazy good deals 928s are these days! Well, except the late model manual trans cars...those are crazy expensive. Especially the GTS!
@@pcar928fan i have a concourse example in my possession
@@tasmaniancaptain7768 that is awesome! What model do you have? OB, S, S4 or GTS?
@@pcar928fan black on black s4 1990 Australian delivered 75ks concourse kept in carcoon tight air pressure and 2 car covers also as 8m meticulous octapolar
@@tasmaniancaptain7768 that sounds SO NICE!!! Congratulations!! What a great car!!
Thanks for sharing the knowledge! Succinct and clear
thanks for watching I am glad you enjoyed it. Much more coming this year!!
This is the best 928 video on RUclips. The footage of Mark's racing is awesome and your concise no BS commentary is great, plus the Rock guitar tracks!
Thank you so much for making this video and sharing with everyone!
The 928 is the beast Porsche kept on a leash... I truly hope that Porsche will reactivate the 928 DNA for the 21st Century!
Thanks so much! Again, YOU ROCK!! I had wanted to do that video for a very long time. Pretty much since I got my first 928 in ‘96. It was just so hard to find info. I read everything I could get my hands on and then filtered it all down to the basics for the program. I ended up getting laid off in ‘09 so I had tine on my hands and figured it was the perfect time to shoot my video. I personally shot it, edited it, researched it, published it…everything. It was a BIG job, but at least I had the time and the ability! Mark sent me about 12 hours of video and I watched ALL of it and edited it down to that 15 min or so. There was quite a bit more that was great, but I just couldn’t fit it all in.
@@pcar928fan you did an amazing job putting it all together!!!
@@shredvenom it was a labor of love for sure!
Hi! I‘m commenting about your 1984 ruby red video here because you‘ve turned the comments off on that video. You forgot to mention that Doug deMuro also misunderstood the use of the rear-seat sun-visor! He didn‘t realise that the sun-visor is meant to go BEHIND his head to protect his neck from the sunlight coming in through the rear window. Doug put the sun-visor down in front of his face and couldn’t figure out what the guys at Porsche were thinking when they built it. 🤪 When I watched his video I slapped my forehead and screamed at the computer „It‘s for the back of your head you twat!“ 😲
Oh damn. I didn’t mean to turn the comments off. I’ll check that later. I knew there was another stupid thing he said, that was it! Thanks much for the comment!
Nice video, but the music drowns out a lot of the discussion.
Yeah, I had to add that for copyright issues. Unfortunate, but unavoidable with the technology (and my abilities) in 2009. Thanks for watching!!
Landser 👍
ok, how about Me 262 Schwalbe :)
The car that got me addicted to Porsche's. First one was a 924 turbo, many 911s, Cayenne and Macan's. I had hoped the Panamera was going to be the new 928.
Yes, I think we all felt like a smaller 2+2 PanAm would have been a great successor to the 928! Does not look like that is going to happen though!
@@pcar928fan - yeah, and the 928 had a lot of quirky shit. If it was reintroduced today it would be awesome.
Please stop putting crappy music in videos.. it does nothing for them.
I don't know which I prefer..The very early 928 (78-79) without the sunroof and side protectors or the slightly later with sunroof (i like the 4 buttons on the console) but without side strip hmmmm
Tommy, it is easy for me. GTS all the way!! Only 406 imported to North America from '93-'95, 346hp, 369lb-ft Tq!!! Most comfortable and fastest of all the 928!! That said, I my close 2nd fav is the OB car! Lightest, most nimble, and simple as these cars go. I'll have a video about my 78 and 80 and 81 OB cars soon. Keep your eyes peeled and thanks for watching and commenting! All the best!
@@pcar928fan You too! Yes I love the GTS also...5.4 litres of grunt! Great final effort from Porsche!
Cool review boss really interesting I never knew a lot about these cars being born in 82 but I knew when I was young somehow these cars were special and they were gorgeous
Thanks Richard! These cars are still beautiful today and the GTS and GT are both pretty good performers even by current standards. Had the car continued on it would probably cost $250k and have 750+ HP at this point…it would have to if it was to be competitive in its field (812 Fcar, top of line Aston and Bentley, etc). Sure would have been fun to watch it evolve through the years. I sure love looking at them in my garage and driving them on road and on track! Thanks for taking the time to watch my video and leave a comment Richard! Most appreciated!
You mention the S4....but no mention of the GT, why?
An oversight on my part. I was really mostly focusing on the body styles of the cars and how they changed visually over the years. But, yes, I should have mentioned that the 5 speed S4 was called the GT from 90/91 and there were both S4 5 speed models as well as S4 GT models for ‘89.
@@pcar928fan Thanks, I made the comment as I was watching, you talk about the engine on the GT, so you bring it up, but I see your intention/logic...makes sense...i'll continue watching
@@blue35tuesday thanks for taking the time to watch and to comment! Glad you are here!
Some of the cars are fitted with absolutely horrible non original wheels. Totally unnecessary.
Sorry you didn’t like some of the wheels in the video, but thanks for watching. Some folks like to mod their cars and wheels are an easy way to kind of “make it your own” without having to spend a lot of money, so I have always liked seeing what others have done, not that it is my taste either, but it is nice to see some variations that can work on a 928.
Please turn down the music, it hard to hear what you are saying, or best maybe turn it off. Thank you.
As I have mentioned before...I wish I could do that. Back when I made this video I didn't have the technology to turn down the background noise. So the problem in part of the video is wind noise...you can still hear the engine over the wind at some points so I decided to lay music over the top...the A95 drive in the GTS the problem was background music that would have got me a copyright strike so I had to add music over the top or mute the sound on that part of the video completely... There were no good solutions that were off the shelf. I am sure a pro could have done better with it, but that is not me now and especially not back then. Sorry for the inconvenience.
I got to enjoy these back in 1979 when they were still a virtual unknown on the streets. Let me tell you, NOTHING compared! To this day it still rocks my world. A Pasha interior on an OB 928S with Eurospec headlights is unbeatable style.
I didn’t even see my first 928 live and in person till the early ‘90’s! I was a car guy living in the D/FW area and never ran across a 928! Crazy!! Love them now of course! You were lucky to have such an early introduction! Thanks for watching!
Yup , same here , in 1980 my Boss in germany had the first Edition. a few guys and our Boss ,Manfred took a trip down to South France . And at some point he let me drive it through an old Village 30 minutes into the country from Cannes. i was 19 and didn't drink but the other guys did , so i got to drive it hahaha . NEVER for get that Feeling . Heavy Big car for me at the time . Looking at a couple now old body style but 1985.5 , we'll see. ;-)
Mark killed that Ferrari Hahahaha
Yeah he did! Mark is an incredible driver! He told me once that the west coast guys were giving him a hard time and saying he was only beating them because he had this big high HP motor in his 928. So, he got tired of listening to them, bought a 911 Cup car and beat them all in that. He won the Perelli Cup West championship! He showed them. Now he beats everyone on bicycles!
@@pcar928fan it's all in the Foot anyways, well at least a big part of it. you got to have the ability to read what is happening 5 cars in front of you. AND again knowing how to accelerate at the right split second. I am not by all means a pro race driver but here in Michigan on Woodward Ave. i kick sometimes a Ferarri's ass, a Camaro, Plymouth hellcat or Porsche doesn't matter. and i do that with a 2022 Odyssey 280Hp!! hahaha
Great video but I was surprised that you didn't talk about transmissions, ie, the auto v 5 speed debate. Or did I miss it? Which do you prefer? Cheers from Oz.
Derek, I meant to reply to you, and thought I had, but I am not seeing it here. I did not talk about the 5 speed vs auto because I am in a wheelchair and can only drive the auto cars, so I can't really add anything to the debate. It is clear what collectors want...5 speed manual! Is that a better transmission than the auto? Eh, depends on what you are looking for a guess. The nice thing is that the auto does not really hold the 928 back so the price difference between the two should be FAR less than it is at the moment. Also, many have the wrong idea about how many 5 speed cars were produced. I think in every model year at least 30% of the production was manual and for '95 (in the US) nearly HALF were 5 speed. Of course we only received 77 cars for all of North America in that last model year, but you are nearly as likely to come across a 5 speed as you are an auto. Another interesting tid bit is that for the first model year, 1978, only about 10% of cars had the automatic. SO 90% of that first year for 5 speed cars. There was NOT a single year where the reverse of that is true! All the best and thanks for your comment and question!
I had a aromatic, then I sold it and bought a 5speed manual, that I stil have . no doubt in my mind, the manual is more funny and gives me more pleasure. I loved the automatic to , but the manual gives me more sports feeling.
Still I gues it’s individual what people prefer,
Best regards from Norway
Ps the automatic was a 80 mod the manual is a 85 model ,
Though your talking hp I think u missed the 86.5 market.
Not sure to what part of the video you are referring…the 85 and 86, and 86.5 all have the same 5.0 32 valve engine rated at 288hp and 304Tq (I think that is the correct factory Tq number). The 86.5 got the front suspension and brakes from the S4 which is what differentiates it from the 86 and makes it more desirable for sure.
Cool video of one of my top ten favorite cars of all time!
Thanks so much! I’m a huge fan also! They were way ahead of their time!
OB is the RISKEY BUSINESS CAR? And or the Scarface Car.
OB is Original Body, like the Rickey Business car.
What’s the music at the end of the video?
Joe, all the music came from either the iMovie app that I edited with, or from Ronald Jenkees (I think I spelled that right), much of his music is now part of iMovie in fact. Thanks for the question.
why the blaring music? made it impossible to watch.
Not sure what part you are referring to specifically, but there were two problems. While on the A-95 in the ‘92 GTS there was music playing that would have earned me a copy write strike, the on track stuff in the ‘88 S4 the problem was the wind noise. It was UNREAL loud on the recording. I had a helmet on so I didn’t notice. If I had known I would have rolled up the passenger window (they require drivers window be down at our track events.). So that is why there is loud music. The only other option at the time was to turn the music off completely…
well, it did fit to the ride on A95 for sure...!!!😀
Who in their right mind would drive their Classic Porsche in the snow?
Not sure what you are referring to here. I have not driven my P-cars in the snow but many do. Well, some do anyway. I don’t need to and we rarely get snow in central Texas anyway.
@@pcar928fan Oh Referring to the Snow Wheels. I wouldn't drive one in the snow. IE Rust
Oh! Yes yes! Those wheels are SUPER rare, but I’m with you! If you can afford a 928, especially when they were new, you could afford a beater for snow days!
Never ,never, ever buy one of these money pits.
The engine is one of the most expensive engines to rebuild.
Everything breaks, and cost a fortune to fix.
Brakes,shocks, bearings,fuel pumps,,virtually one thing after another,it never ends.
Better to buy a late 60's muscle car,that's as complex as a lawn mower, and runs like a lawn mower.
I have owned British cars,Italian cars ,German cars and a host of Japanese cars and trucks.
Never again will I pour money down a rat hole with used Euro cars.
There are certainly parts of the 928 that are a challenge, like the AC system...those can break a mere mortal. Most of the car is very solid and the parts are much cheaper than Ferrari parts. Anyone with reasonable wrenching skills, a connection to the large and vibrant 928 community and an internet connection can maintain one of these beasts. Best of all the very good ones and most 5 speeds are going up in value right now. Heck a friend of mine has a $10M car collection and his favorite grand touring car is his 5 speed 928 GTS. He used to have a 355 Ferrari but he sold it because he said it was to expensive to maintain. Think about that for a minute. A guy spends $10 million on cars, old, new, exotic, mundane and to him a 355 is too expensive to maintain! Yowza!
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Don't get me wrong.
My favorite car of all time is a 63' Jag E Type.
I will get one,after I finish setting up another startup company.
I also love 1999 BMW 850 V-12s.
The most beautiful car I think.
@@pcar928fan The best lesson I learned regarding my years of building hotrods and muscle cars was to start buying fully restored cars,and quit buying project's.
The return on investment for me anyway was .50 cents on the dollar.
It was pretty common from what I heard from other car builders.
A few really adept guys made money with their cars,but I was never one of them.
Fun stuff though.
Jim, I’m with you on the E-type! Drop dead gorgeous! I tried to get my grandfather to agree to rebuild one with me in the late 80’s but he didn’t have it in him. Was just too much for him to bite off at 65. I’ve had a few BMW M cars but the 850 never really did much for me. Enjoy those great cars when you get them!!
@@pcar928fan Each car buff develops opinions based on their own experience regarding the wonderful world of cars and trucks.
I have always admired Porsches,
Ferrari's,and for a time, Mercedes Benz.
I owned a defense company some years ago dealing with armored vehicles, among other things.
Before that,I worked with Mercedes Benz Road Racing and MB Trucks.
I have forever been a great fan of any type of machine from cars,aircraft, battleships, tanks, ad infinitum.
I admired your zeal with the 928's.
One of my great friends had two of these,one was a one off red 928 convertible lol.
I know....Porsche never made a 928 convertible.
It was a custom vehicle.
Pretty cool.
I have about had 45 years of owning European cars,and
I had a great love for these cars
great video.
E B , than you so much. It was a labor of love. I really love the 928!
@@pcar928fan they are the best of trans axle porches ever made. i own 928s4 and 944s mint condition and these cars the one of kind of those 80s. hold on to them because their price will only will go up and so hard to find the good ones now days. most of them are junks. Not so many good ones left out there. enjoy it all.
EB, you are absolutely right. Most are $20k away from being decent $10k cars! LOL! I still have 5 of my former 15. 2 GTS, S4, S and OB!
@@pcar928fan Yes you are right ok ones goes for now 20k and nice ones 40 k above and crappy ones junky ones for 15ks lolGreat to hear. Make sure hold on to them all. Now days all the cars will be electric and these cars are golden great cars. Pure analog, hand made good German muscle 1st Porsche Trans-axle cars and now days nothing like it. I want also 968 for the collection as well.