He says 1400$ difference between the laptops as it is a 50$. How about giving each buyer the diference of 1400$ from your pocket if it is so little as it does not matter, for 10 fps and RGB lighting?!
@@GizmoSlipTech yeah, I understand. I just found it funny, and I also find the pricing of the mobile 4090s even more galling. For $1400 I can buy a second PC or laptop, put it in an interest-bearing account as a seed find towards my next on in 5 years, or buy a new drone, or camera, TV, or whatever. It's just such a crazy difference for marginal gains that realistically won't be appreciable.
Depends on one's own scoring criteria - factor in improved sound, double RAM, double SSD and better GPU thermals (which could mean even better performance when normalized for fan noise) and it's not $140 just per frame. Also that's just how tech pricing goes - there are always diminishing returns at the high end. All the games are going to be perfectly playable and look amazing on either machine for years to come 👍
I got the Strix 4080 about 2 weeks ago. For me the $2725 (stupid taxes) was twice what I normally spend on new laptops. It hurt some, but it has been quite incredible. I don't like where the power cable plugs into the laptop. You either have to move the cable towards you which bends it, or the cable covers up the left vent. The power cable is about a foot shorter than usual, which means I have to prop it upright on my bed instead of the floor (I'm a truck driver so no table option there). I wish they would have reversed the sides that the USB and USB C are on. The mouse and phone plugs get in my way and gets hit allot (bought a USB C to USB A adapter for that). It does not get hot really, like all other of my MSI and multiple ROG laptops previously. I love how when you turn a game off, the temps drop within a few seconds back to almost idle temps (liquid metal is a godsend). For me having always bought the mid-tear like the MSI G75 3060 (still very nice), but this is a beast. OH, and it's you're fault I broke down and bought this. I had this in my BestBuy cart for several days wanting to click buy and then saying no it's too much money..........until I watched this. So thanks for that.
@@Maudires.got mine for $1900 open box. Only a little bit of screen bleed. But I’ve never had a laptop like this so I’m blown away either way. Things an absolite beast and a steal bargain w the 18”+i9+4080
In addition to the flagship Strix SCAR 18, ROG also launched the Strix SCAR 16 gaming notebook, which is almost identical in appearance and design. It also features a four-sided narrow bezel display, RGB single-point keyboard backlight and the surrounding view light bar and other configurations are much smaller in size and the specification configuration is also lower. Meanwhile, to solve the problem that the keyboard without independent number keys, Strix SCAR 16 utilizes a virtual number keyboard configuration on the touchpad. If you are looking for a more portable gaming laptop with mid-to-high end gaming performance, the smaller Strix SCAR 16 will be a better and affordable choice.
I bought my last PC (Asus) in 2012 so I'm quite overdue for an upgrade. I splurged and ordered myself the 16" Scar with the 4090. I couldn't be more excited. 😁
I bought my last in 2017 and ordered a SCAR 16 4080. I'm super excited. I don't know how you held out for so long. My 5-year old laptop is struggling to play 1080p at medium settings.
I just purchased the new ASUS Scar 16” + RTX 4080, and it is amazing. I had to fight a bit for it, due to being able to find a lot of the other models for 2023 available, but the Scar 16” (2023) is either sold out, or on backorder, which really shows it’s the best of everything for the price, being $2899, and everyone seems to think so.
@@sebkeccu4546 Got the Scar G16 i9 13980HX and RTX4080 for 2459€ (20% VAT incl.) with the 240Hz Nebula display. There is some coil whine when on battery.
As I showed, there are quite a few other upgrades in the $1400 upgrade, like RAM, SSD, speakers, and RGB implementation as well as the RTX 4090. But yeah, most people will still want to go for Strix G18 imo.
@@GizmoSlipTech Asus has bad RAM in stock, I would rather buy Kingston fury, it would be faster (a little) and the timings would be much lower, even if it doesn’t work on 5600.
I just bought a strict scar 18 with a 4080, 14900hx, 2.5 K mini LED nebula display, 32 gigs of DDR5 5600mhz, 1tb GEN4 nvme. It still sells for 2999. I got an open box from Micro Center for 1799. Not a scratch on it and I bought a one year accidental on it so I have nothing to worry about. It’s an absolute monster, and the screen is hands-down one of the best features.
@@GizmoSlipTech Is the 4080 in the G18 the 12GB version? In Australia we have Scar with the 4080 12GB GPU and the 4090 16GB, but that and an extra TB of storage costs an additional $2500AUD. I just can’t justify that based on this review if the GPU’s line up with what you have tested. Both models coming with 32GB ram. And if course thank you for this video! It’s a life saver being able to compare the 4080 vs 4090 performances.
I'm getting the SCAR 16 4080. I needed something smaller, and the display is supposed to be amazing. Wasn't willing to spend that much more for the 4090.
Thanks for video comparing the two versions. I was thinking about purchasing another brand of laptop, but this laptop has changed my mind. I was waiting for someone to post a video doing this EXACT comparison. I feel like your review of these two laptops is GREAT!!! I've seen the prices of the "SCAR 18" and some websites are TAXING even past $4500 for the Scar 18 version. I WANT THE BEST, but for me paying around $1400 (+) for a minimal increase in Performance is NOT WORTH IT FOR ME!!!! I would LOVE TO have the SCAR 18 with the 4090, but the STRIX G18 will suffice for me. Since the introduction of the 40 Series GPU's, vendors have been overcharging for laptops and especially if it has a 4090 in it!!!!
Hey Gizo, had to say thank you! I have watched so many of your reviews and after a ton of research I ordered my massive upgrade of a laptop and went with the GT77 Rtx 4090. I am super excited! Thank you again for the awesome reviews!
About the coilwhine, it doesn't dissapear, usually it increases(with getting older), but the brain learns to filter out continous sounds after a while, therefore many people start NOT hearing it anymore. And if you are older or have ear damage, you don't hear those frequencies anymore anyways... This is very noticeable when you don't hear it, but you take your laptop with you on work, all the colleagues are annoyed by it...even though I don' hear it anymore. I had to send the laptop back for this reason. Coil whine is a problem not only for yourself but also for everyone around you... This is a real quality problem that should not have happened. I also heard that it might be the atmos speakers getting interference when high voltage is applied from the battery. When connected to the mains the coil whining seems to be lower or non-existent. Did asus mention something about this? Are they fixing this for the next gen?
I have just bought my strix g18 today, my previous laptop has gtx1070. After seeing this test i think i made the correct decision, paying a lot more for 4090 seems unnecessary at 2k resolution, let alone 1080p :)
@@Mohanad204 So far no problems, temperatures doesn't go above 80C under heavy load. It is too soon to have any conclusion yet, we'll see how it will perform in the long run. I still have my 1070 laptop today, using it since late 2016. It has been more than 5 years and it still works fine, temperatures are similar. I hope G18 will perform like it too.
@@rstk4408 bro I too got my g18 day before yesterday I play on performance and I get temperature of above 80 to 90 to 92 is is harmful to get this percentage or its totally normal I. M worried pls reply me
@@MD.Nibras I am also using it performance mode, didn't see anything above 83 in the long gaming sessions so far. Mostly sustaining around 80, which is normal for a gaming laptop imo. I have 90-95 spikes on the CPU rarely but they are instantaneous and won't harm anything since max thermal tolerance of the CPU is 100 celcius. If it's staying above 90 for long periods it could cause problems in the long run, but if it's not the case i would't worry. My old gtx1070 laptop also running around 80 degrees Celcius under load, it has been 6 years nearly and still working like champ. I expect ASUS to do the same :)
As indicated by another review (BIBA Laptops), 4090 has a larger chip which has more area to release the heat, which causes lower temperatures on 4090, which also gives it more thermal room for overclocking. That actually would mean 4090 might in practice have more overclocking potential than 4080.
@@andadore443 I guess might depend on total thermal headroom. If you are also pushing your CPU which is most probably also connected to the same pipes or vapor chamber, the GPU might hit the thermal limit before it hits the power limit, I am not sure how the equation is set with all parameters included. You might be right, too.
The extra area doesn't allow more heat to dissipate, because the extra area also generates extra heat (more cuda cores). Therefore the heat dissipation remains the same. But there is a caveat, the 4090 has a minimum tdp of 80w versus 60w on the 4080, this makes the 4090 always hotter then the 4080.
The cost difference for the 4090 is just not worth it. If you get the G18 and need good cpu thermals, you'll probably have to re-apply the liquid metal. Lots of folks report subpar application from the factory (myself included). Correcting this gets thermals in line and with a decent undervolt I can get a 35k run in R23. the 10 minute loop ends up around 34k after thermal saturation. I added a 4TB drive and doubled my ram with a small boost in ram speed and still came out over 1k cheaper than the 4090 variant.
Just got a Strix G18 for $1900 from Bestbuy, it's an open box. So we'll have to see if backlight bleed is really bad or something, but for $500, I think I can live with a little bit. Should be here tomorrow.
Overall to me 4090 seems to have a larger gap to 4080 than 3080 had to 3070 in 2021 laptop models. Back then 12% performance gain required ~20% more power to the GPU and from the wall - something we also pay for unless having own solar panels. Now this performance gain comes at the same GPU power thanks to a larger chip. Perhaps this results in lower GPU thermals, which could mean even more FPS gain if normalized for fan noise.
Lenovo's pro 7i 4090 is available for order now, so I ordered that and will return the 4080 version. Works out to $200 more in my case. At that price, I'm ok with 10% more on the GPU.
As I mentioned at the start, I know for sure Cyberpunk 2077 was ran on Turbo fan profile (maybe a couple others, I should double check), which results in less fan noise and higher temps.
@@dusanljesevic3979 bro I too got my g18 day before yesterday I play on performance and I get temperature of above 80 to 90 to 92 is is harmful to get this percentage or its totally normal I. M worried pls reply me
bro I too got my g18 day before yesterday I play on performance and I get temperature of above 80 to 90 to 92 is is harmful to get this percentage or its totally normal I. M worried pls reply me
G18 is what I wanted the M18 to be. Your buying a 18 inch for the screen and M18 drops the ball on this one. I like alienware and love the build quality and customer service. But my Alienwares always run hot. I bought a G18 and my screen died and had to get unit replaced because of a crap repair. But Best Buy did replace it. Not sure how long I will have the G18. Since I have a laptop problem. Lol
The 4090 is more efficient at the same wattage vs the 4080. So at the same power, the 4090 will be a little bit cooler. Its also on a physically bigger die, allowing more surface area to transfer heat to the heatsink. The thermal paste or liquid metal could have been applied better on the 4090 version also. Gerrads tech youtube channel has a video comparing 4080 vs 4090. You can see everything u need in that video. Search it
Do not forget about the GPU RAM amount and threshold difference (16 GB on 256-bit BUS for 4090 vs 12 GB on 192-bit BUS for 4080). Today it is only about 10-15% difference in performance, however, in 2-3 years period, it may have much more significant impact on it while playing in more advanced and graphic demanding games.
I doubt it, because the cpu seems to be a bottleneck for the GPU in most cases. I also think the PCIe 4.0 also is a bottleneck for the 4090. This problem might disspear with the new meteorlake cpu's which have PCIe 5.0
Why is seems that scar 18 has a cooler GPU and hotter CPU compared with G16? Is there any difference between the cooling modules of these two computers?
Should the same, but liquid metal application can vary between units. As I mentioned at the start, I know for sure Cyberpunk 2077 was ran on Turbo fan profile (maybe a couple others, I should double check), which results in less fan noise and higher temps.
@@GizmoSlipTech By the way, I want to ask again, how about i7-13650HX with 4080? Will this processor be much worse than the i9-13980HX? It seems that in Europe I can only buy g16 with this configuration, otherwise I have to pay more for scar 16
@rstk4408 bro I too got my g18 day before yesterday I play on performance and I get temperature of above 80 to 90 to 92 is is harmful to get this percentage or its totally normal I. M worried pls reply me
The 4090 is more efficient at the same wattage vs the 4080. So at the same power, the 4090 will be a little bit cooler. Its also on a physically bigger die, allowing more surface area to transfer heat to the heatsink. The thermal paste or liquid metal could have been applied better on the 4090 version also. Gerrads tech youtube channel has a video comparing 4080 vs 4090. You can see everything u need in that video. Search it
What is allowing your CPU to use 130W during gaming with a almost full gpu load? I can't get my scar 18 2023 to go over 55W. It's a hard limit I can't seem to go over. Bios 329
I just played Battlefield 2042 multiplayer with the Asus Rog Strix 18 inch i914900HX, 32 GB 5600 MHZ, RTX 4070 in 2560x1440 in Ultra settings with Ray tracing and DLSS on and the FPS was 110-120 FPS. The GPU mode was at Ultimate with the fans on turbo (not loud at all).. Temperatures were CPU 75 degrees and GPU 63 degrees.. It performs better then on my AMD 7900X, 32GB 5200 MHZ, RX 7900 XTX desktop..
Amazing review, I love the energy you give during every review video, and the great comparisons you make! For now, I think I'll wait for the G18 with rtx 4080 to drop a little in price in my country (price start at around 4000$) and for sure will go for it!
@DC actually yes,but as a student and a sailor it's kinda useless to have a desktop at this time, having to travel a lot it's way easier to have a laptop =))
Amazing content as always! You think it's worth it to go for a 4080 that will be available 3 weeks earlier and that costs $400 less, or should I wait and go for the 4090? The performance seems so similar.
I'm looking at the scar 4080. I think it will have the best of both worlds.. all these Configs are a bit confusing between the strix and the strix scar series, but I've sort of gotten a handle of their differences. Thanks for the vid
For those concerned about coil whine on the G18, i just got mine today and its so minimal on my unit i had to press my ear up against the machine to barely hear it. I heard from a reddit post that Asus revised the powerbrick in a way that reduces coil whine. Not sure if its true, but the newer batches are much less likely to have bad coil whine from what im seeing
I’ve had the 4080 version for about 2 weeks. No coil whine, so I’m wondering if they indeed fixed that issue. Also, almost no light bleed on the screen either.
I had no coil whine or bleed. Then my lcd went out and had to be repaired by Asus. The laptop all of sudden developed bad coil whine and replacement LCD had terrible back light bleed. Just had it replaced because the front LED strip somehow got damaged during repair also. Nightmare
Not shitting on the folks who got the 4090 ...if you got it flaunt it. I dont got it so I got the $2500 g18...and feeling like this is the deal. I dont hear any coil whine but I am a over the road truck driver and my hearing is pretty shot anyway.
Hey GizmoSlipTech I'm wondering if 4090 is worth it especially since I have my eye on the Asus Zephyrus M16 2023 either 4080 or 4090 which is both 145W max TGP but yeah it's a slimmer model so not as powerful as the Strix/Scar lines... I would appreciate your thoughts and eagerly waiting for the Zephyrus M16 reviews.
I Bought Strix G18 today(from BB) but returned it due to screen bleed, Actually love the laptop and tried to convince myself to keep it but backlight bleed was too noticable
Thanks guy for clarify review. I wonder when would we have flagship laptop with ryzen 9 7945HX? Seem like Asus will not put highest option for AMD, at least this gen.
Has he ever mentioned which laptop his is going to go with. He said it wasn't these. But which one does he like? I've searched his video's and I either missed it or he hasn't said.
Glad to see, when it comes to laptop GPU's, the difference between 4080/4090 isn't that big given the price increase. I am eyeing a Asus M16 4080 myself.
@@Carandtechtalks how is that even a question friend? The 13980HX is clearly better, it has more cores, more threads, and is unlocked so you can use Intel XTU.
I’m looking at the scar strix 17 with the amd 7945 and the 4090. Im seeing good reviews on the AMD processor so far. You think it’s a good purchase? It’s about 300 less than the scar strix 18
@rstk4408 bro I too got my g18 day before yesterday I play on performance and I get temperature of above 80 to 90 to 92 is is harmful to get this percentage or its totally normal I. M worried pls reply me
I tested today ASUS ROG Strix SCAR 18 geforce 4080 on benchmark, and temperature was very hight around 82 с and peak 95 с temperature, are this normal for work? won't my computer go bad if I play games or work in 3d programs? Or for example work in unreal engine, icompare with lenovo legion 7 pro geforce 4080, is 16 diagonal, but not so hot.
Bro I too got my g18 day before yesterday I play on performance and I get temperature of above 80 to 90 to 92 is is harmful to get this percentage or its totally normal I. M worried pls reply me
ive always bought the top tier graphics card and sacrificed the cpu and ram. this time around i think ill go all in. it will be future proofed for a bit. i got the 1080ti, skipped the 20 series, and got the 3090 when it came out. to be honest, my 1080ti still kicks butt. to end my rant lol, it would make sense to get the 4090 because you cant upgrade and the few extra fps could mean the difference in playable and unplayable a few years down the road.
Is the 4080/4090 $500 price difference worth it in the Lenovo Legion 7i Gen 8's? Price points a bit closer together than other manufacturers it seems...
I’m thinking about going for the 4090 but, what I’m worried about, is if it’ll have heating issues such as the legion 7i with its 3080 ti. I was almost about to purchase the all AMD version of the legion 7 but I just had to wait and see for the 4000’s series and now I’m stuck between the 4080 and 4090
Think about % increase in unit cost vs % increase in observed performance, for better perspective. Think how long you'll want to keep the laptop (it's speculative, but more VRAM/bus more cores and slightly lower operating temps - since both 4080M and 4090M are limited to the same max TGP of 175W - should help it stay functional and relevant for longer). Unlike laptops of last decade, there is no potential for upgrade. No opportunity to buy midrange and do a mid-life upgrade to a high end GPU, when performance starts lagging behind. So what you buy is what you get, there will be no relatively cheap 'trade-up' options these days. You may be able to justify the premium for the 4090M based on sane considerations and pricing, the Eluktronics Mech16/Mech17 is a similar markup over the 4080M. For comparison though, $1400usd here though when they're both gimped by display res and CPU power limit, and bundled with extra RAM/SSD you might not need (or can probably get cheaper elsewhere) is clearly not worth it.
Yeah another thing holding me back from getting the Lenovo pro 7i with the 4080 is that it comes with only 12 Gb of vram while the 4090 comes with 16 gb if the 4080 came with 16 I would’ve bought it already
I am going to upgrade from an old Lenovo legion laptop with a 1660ti and an i7 to either an Asus m16 with a 12th gen i9 and 3070ti or to an Asus Strix G18 with a 13th gen i9 and 4070 which would you recommend? I was concerned with the thermal issues of the m16. But I have also heard that 4070 is not much better than 3070ti
I would buy the Strix G18 for the better thermals, Frame Generation, better CPU, and bigger display-but it is larger in size. That is the biggest difference
No everyone this resolution is really low the higher the resolution the better frames you'll see on the 4090 over the 4080 4K is when you start to see the results and I honestly don't want to play 1080p
Is a gaming laptop worth it? Over a desktop. I’m the guy who had a desktop and sold it. It sat there collecting dust as most my friends are on ps5. The idea of a gaming laptop is sick because it’s mobil and can game like crazy. Not sure I can justify the purchase tho lol
I probably won't ever go back to desktop. You do lose alot of upgradeability with a gaming laptop but the fact that you can game anywhere that has a power outlet is such a plus with me, and with these particular ones its high end desktop equivalent. It's a great choice for people that just want a gaming machine they can travel with, if price isn't an issue I would pick a gaming laptop over a console, definitely.
its depends. Huge giant heavy DTR (biggest of the big, 6kg 2inch thick Clevo with desktop CPU + 2x GPUs) works for me. I have had multiple workplaces for 15+ years, hate being tethered to the same desk all day long, don't game on battery, am never that far away from a power outlet, and I am massively impatient so NEED powerful hardware. The GPU power is also nice to play games with. That level of luggability is all I need. The only problem with having work and play on the same machine is discipline lol. I write it off as a business expense over 3 years against income tax and hold it for years more so the annualised cost of ownership is not as bad as the initial pricetag suggests. If anyone from the tax dept is reading, what I meant to say was I use those GPUs only for business activities such as video encoding and running 3x 4K displays.
@@GizmoSlipTech yay!!! 🥰🤩😍 I will watch live if possible. I ordered an ASUS on Amazon will only arrive Saturday so I have time to return and change if MSI is better :D
To the people complaining about 4090 not worth buy - don't buy it then...nobody is forcing you. It is diminishing returns as with all others things. Even with sport cars for every 0.1sec faster you will pay much, much more. And the lower you get the more expense the incremental upgrades become. If money is not a problem and your main priority is getting the absolute best, get the 4090, otherwise you will be perfectly fine gaming with 4080 at a bit lower fpd.
That’s really concerning. I value reliability over anything. Did both fail at the same time? That would be very odd. Did you discover the cause? I hope you were able to recover an essential data.
@Adam-vs4ec I didn't check them individually, I just considered both of them dead. I ordered another two SSDs, and now everything is working fine. I obviously had zero drivers installed and no internet wire, so I had to manually deactivate the Net function so I could install the windows without internet first. One thing is different know, I have lower Ampere values on my new SSDs. Do you think it is concerning? I am not an expert. The old ones had 2.8 A, and the new ones have 1.9 A.
Can someone explain why laptop with 4090 has such higher temp during benchmarks? Same CPU's, and same TDP of GPU's. I wanted to go for 4080, but i want to go for 4090 bcs it was much lower temps, which is most important for laptops. But why 4090 had such higher temps on CPU?
The 4090 is more efficient at the same wattage vs the 4080. So at the same power, the 4090 will be a little bit cooler. Its also on a physically bigger die, allowing more surface area to transfer heat to the heatsink. The thermal paste or liquid metal could have been applied better on the 4090 version also. Gerrads tech youtube channel has a video comparing 4080 vs 4090. You can see everything u need in that video. Search it.
@@bloodthyrsty yeah not sure. They are same cpu with same vapor chamber and everything. My guess would be either the cpu on the 4080 was thermal throttling itself more and then running less watts bc of higher initial temps. Or the 4080 computer had a better application of liquid metal? Probably the 2nd guess. Laptop to laptop variation
@@bigtwinz3296 well, in the end i bought g814 N6070W with 4070 and 13980hx , and upgraded RAM + SSD, didnt expect i will buy this low gpu, but ihad gtx 1070, this is increase about 100%, but last 2 years playing anyway games from 90's or early 00's and diablo 4 which is okey for 4070.. welp
yes, here we pay 4080 price for the 4070 g18, no way i'm spending 3500 or 4000 dollars in a laptop, and rest of 4080s in the 2000 range are hot garbage, i want a complete laptop, not a shit with a 4080, so i ended up with the rog g18 4070 for 1900
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"A lot higher frames....102 vs 91"
For $1,400 more?!?
That's $140 per frame!
Haha, hard to say everything perfectly in one take no editing :)
He says 1400$ difference between the laptops as it is a 50$. How about giving each buyer the diference of 1400$ from your pocket if it is so little as it does not matter, for 10 fps and RGB lighting?!
@@GizmoSlipTech yeah, I understand. I just found it funny, and I also find the pricing of the mobile 4090s even more galling. For $1400 I can buy a second PC or laptop, put it in an interest-bearing account as a seed find towards my next on in 5 years, or buy a new drone, or camera, TV, or whatever. It's just such a crazy difference for marginal gains that realistically won't be appreciable.
😂
Depends on one's own scoring criteria - factor in improved sound, double RAM, double SSD and better GPU thermals (which could mean even better performance when normalized for fan noise) and it's not $140 just per frame. Also that's just how tech pricing goes - there are always diminishing returns at the high end. All the games are going to be perfectly playable and look amazing on either machine for years to come 👍
15% percent perfomance for 1400$. 4090 - Bad choice
Ever heard of diminishing returns?
@@Dajlec no
display is mini led too 1100nits
I got the Strix 4080 about 2 weeks ago. For me the $2725 (stupid taxes) was twice what I normally spend on new laptops. It hurt some, but it has been quite incredible.
I don't like where the power cable plugs into the laptop. You either have to move the cable towards you which bends it, or the cable covers up the left vent.
The power cable is about a foot shorter than usual, which means I have to prop it upright on my bed instead of the floor (I'm a truck driver so no table option there).
I wish they would have reversed the sides that the USB and USB C are on. The mouse and phone plugs get in my way and gets hit allot (bought a USB C to USB A adapter for that).
It does not get hot really, like all other of my MSI and multiple ROG laptops previously.
I love how when you turn a game off, the temps drop within a few seconds back to almost idle temps (liquid metal is a godsend).
For me having always bought the mid-tear like the MSI G75 3060 (still very nice), but this is a beast.
OH, and it's you're fault I broke down and bought this. I had this in my BestBuy cart for several days wanting to click buy and then saying no it's too much money..........until I watched this.
So thanks for that.
Under $2000 open box best buy sale
Always best to wait
@@Usernotknown21exactly… I’m thinking about getting the strix 18 for less than $1800 plus tax of course… now is the time to be honest…
@@Maudires.got mine for $1900 open box. Only a little bit of screen bleed. But I’ve never had a laptop like this so I’m blown away either way. Things an absolite beast and a steal bargain w the 18”+i9+4080
In addition to the flagship Strix SCAR 18, ROG also launched the Strix SCAR 16 gaming notebook, which is almost identical in appearance and design. It also features a four-sided narrow bezel display, RGB single-point keyboard backlight and the surrounding view light bar and other configurations are much smaller in size and the specification configuration is also lower. Meanwhile, to solve the problem that the keyboard without independent number keys, Strix SCAR 16 utilizes a virtual number keyboard configuration on the touchpad. If you are looking for a more portable gaming laptop with mid-to-high end gaming performance, the smaller Strix SCAR 16 will be a better and affordable choice.
I bought my last PC (Asus) in 2012 so I'm quite overdue for an upgrade. I splurged and ordered myself the 16" Scar with the 4090. I couldn't be more excited. 😁
I bought my last in 2017 and ordered a SCAR 16 4080. I'm super excited. I don't know how you held out for so long. My 5-year old laptop is struggling to play 1080p at medium settings.
Where did you guys order the scar 16? I'm looking at getting it but can't find it anywhere.
enjoy the mini LED screen
What did your wallet say?
@@kurtisrinker1202 xoticpc
I just purchased the new ASUS Scar 16” + RTX 4080, and it is amazing. I had to fight a bit for it, due to being able to find a lot of the other models for 2023 available, but the Scar 16” (2023) is either sold out, or on backorder, which really shows it’s the best of everything for the price, being $2899, and everyone seems to think so.
2899? I thought it is 3400+
Hi You are able setup light per key or only zones?
I just purchased a scar 16 (4080) for 2100 euros (hoping it doesn't have coil noise). Did you notice coil noise on yours?
@@sebkeccu4546 Got the Scar G16 i9 13980HX and RTX4080 for 2459€ (20% VAT incl.) with the 240Hz Nebula display. There is some coil whine when on battery.
A very revealing video that you should not overpay 50% of the cost of a laptop for 4090
As I showed, there are quite a few other upgrades in the $1400 upgrade, like RAM, SSD, speakers, and RGB implementation as well as the RTX 4090. But yeah, most people will still want to go for Strix G18 imo.
@@GizmoSlipTech yeah just like the desktop versions of these cards I think you are really gonna see the differences when you go up to 4k.
@@GizmoSlipTech Asus has bad RAM in stock, I would rather buy Kingston fury, it would be faster (a little) and the timings would be much lower, even if it doesn’t work on 5600.
Can also just look at the scar with a 4080 at 2800
they bundle other stuff in with it. 4090M is only a $500 AUD (like, $USD350) upgrade over 4080M on the Mech17 GP2
Is it next week yet? Waiting on the Scar 16 4080 is killing me! Lol
Looking forward to watching this comparison in the meantime
HOW IS IT NOW ANY POBLEMS ?
I just bought a strict scar 18 with a 4080, 14900hx, 2.5 K mini LED nebula display, 32 gigs of DDR5 5600mhz, 1tb GEN4 nvme. It still sells for 2999. I got an open box from Micro Center for 1799. Not a scratch on it and I bought a one year accidental on it so I have nothing to worry about. It’s an absolute monster, and the screen is hands-down one of the best features.
Thanks for putting this together. Quite informative. This video answered a lot of questions about which of these machines to purchase.
Glad it was helpful!
@@GizmoSlipTech Is the 4080 in the G18 the 12GB version?
In Australia we have Scar with the 4080 12GB GPU and the 4090 16GB, but that and an extra TB of storage costs an additional $2500AUD. I just can’t justify that based on this review if the GPU’s line up with what you have tested. Both models coming with 32GB ram.
And if course thank you for this video! It’s a life saver being able to compare the 4080 vs 4090 performances.
I'm getting the SCAR 16 4080. I needed something smaller, and the display is supposed to be amazing. Wasn't willing to spend that much more for the 4090.
u know a store for buying this laptop?
@@GangStiV0uli depends on where you live but i would recommend checking amazon
@@levent_6109 for now i want to know a store to LA or San Francisco.I prefer physical store
Thanks for video comparing the two versions. I was thinking about purchasing another brand of laptop, but this laptop has changed my mind. I was waiting for someone to post a video doing this EXACT comparison. I feel like your review of these two laptops is GREAT!!! I've seen the prices of the "SCAR 18" and some websites are TAXING even past $4500 for the Scar 18 version. I WANT THE BEST, but for me paying around $1400 (+) for a minimal increase in Performance is NOT WORTH IT FOR ME!!!! I would LOVE TO have the SCAR 18 with the 4090, but the STRIX G18 will suffice for me. Since the introduction of the 40 Series GPU's, vendors have been overcharging for laptops and especially if it has a 4090 in it!!!!
Thumbs up for you being the first doing that necessary comparison 👍👍
Hey Gizo, had to say thank you! I have watched so many of your reviews and after a ton of research I ordered my massive upgrade of a laptop and went with the GT77 Rtx 4090. I am super excited! Thank you again for the awesome reviews!
Glad I could help!
@@ebujidov It’ll happen here soon
@@GizmoSlipTech titan wins!!!
How you like it so far?
About the coilwhine, it doesn't dissapear, usually it increases(with getting older), but the brain learns to filter out continous sounds after a while, therefore many people start NOT hearing it anymore. And if you are older or have ear damage, you don't hear those frequencies anymore anyways... This is very noticeable when you don't hear it, but you take your laptop with you on work, all the colleagues are annoyed by it...even though I don' hear it anymore. I had to send the laptop back for this reason. Coil whine is a problem not only for yourself but also for everyone around you...
This is a real quality problem that should not have happened. I also heard that it might be the atmos speakers getting interference when high voltage is applied from the battery. When connected to the mains the coil whining seems to be lower or non-existent. Did asus mention something about this? Are they fixing this for the next gen?
I have just bought my strix g18 today, my previous laptop has gtx1070. After seeing this test i think i made the correct decision, paying a lot more for 4090 seems unnecessary at 2k resolution, let alone 1080p :)
How is it doing so far ?
@@Mohanad204 So far no problems, temperatures doesn't go above 80C under heavy load. It is too soon to have any conclusion yet, we'll see how it will perform in the long run. I still have my 1070 laptop today, using it since late 2016. It has been more than 5 years and it still works fine, temperatures are similar. I hope G18 will perform like it too.
@@rstk4408 bro I too got my g18 day before yesterday I play on performance and I get temperature of above 80 to 90 to 92 is is harmful to get this percentage or its totally normal I. M worried pls reply me
@@MD.Nibras I am also using it performance mode, didn't see anything above 83 in the long gaming sessions so far. Mostly sustaining around 80, which is normal for a gaming laptop imo. I have 90-95 spikes on the CPU rarely but they are instantaneous and won't harm anything since max thermal tolerance of the CPU is 100 celcius. If it's staying above 90 for long periods it could cause problems in the long run, but if it's not the case i would't worry. My old gtx1070 laptop also running around 80 degrees Celcius under load, it has been 6 years nearly and still working like champ. I expect ASUS to do the same :)
I currently have a GTX 1660 laptop. Just purchased the strix g18 rtx 4080 5minutes ago. Can't wait!
So 12% fps gain for 1,300 more dollars? Crikey those few extra frames are spensive.
As indicated by another review (BIBA Laptops), 4090 has a larger chip which has more area to release the heat, which causes lower temperatures on 4090, which also gives it more thermal room for overclocking. That actually would mean 4090 might in practice have more overclocking potential than 4080.
but after all, everything depends on the TDP, which cannot be increased
@@andadore443 I guess might depend on total thermal headroom. If you are also pushing your CPU which is most probably also connected to the same pipes or vapor chamber, the GPU might hit the thermal limit before it hits the power limit, I am not sure how the equation is set with all parameters included. You might be right, too.
The extra area doesn't allow more heat to dissipate, because the extra area also generates extra heat (more cuda cores). Therefore the heat dissipation remains the same. But there is a caveat, the 4090 has a minimum tdp of 80w versus 60w on the 4080, this makes the 4090 always hotter then the 4080.
The cost difference for the 4090 is just not worth it.
If you get the G18 and need good cpu thermals, you'll probably have to re-apply the liquid metal. Lots of folks report subpar application from the factory (myself included). Correcting this gets thermals in line and with a decent undervolt I can get a 35k run in R23. the 10 minute loop ends up around 34k after thermal saturation.
I added a 4TB drive and doubled my ram with a small boost in ram speed and still came out over 1k cheaper than the 4090 variant.
Just got a Strix G18 for $1900 from Bestbuy, it's an open box. So we'll have to see if backlight bleed is really bad or something, but for $500, I think I can live with a little bit. Should be here tomorrow.
Update???
so how'd it go?
But if there are SCAR 18 with 4080 and 4090 - whitch one I should buy? +800$ worth for 4090?
Overall to me 4090 seems to have a larger gap to 4080 than 3080 had to 3070 in 2021 laptop models. Back then 12% performance gain required ~20% more power to the GPU and from the wall - something we also pay for unless having own solar panels. Now this performance gain comes at the same GPU power thanks to a larger chip. Perhaps this results in lower GPU thermals, which could mean even more FPS gain if normalized for fan noise.
Bigger difference will be in 4K resolution.
The difference in temps were huge. The 4090 routine sat at 10-15C lower than the 4080.
Lenovo's pro 7i 4090 is available for order now, so I ordered that and will return the 4080 version. Works out to $200 more in my case. At that price, I'm ok with 10% more on the GPU.
If cooling is the same on these laptops, why is g18 always having 80° temp on gpu while scar is more around 68°
As I mentioned at the start, I know for sure Cyberpunk 2077 was ran on Turbo fan profile (maybe a couple others, I should double check), which results in less fan noise and higher temps.
Is the 80° on gpu problem if you wanna keep laptop for long time?😅
It's also a bigger chip with less energy per squared millimeter.
@@dusanljesevic3979 bro I too got my g18 day before yesterday I play on performance and I get temperature of above 80 to 90 to 92 is is harmful to get this percentage or its totally normal I. M worried pls reply me
bro I too got my g18 day before yesterday I play on performance and I get temperature of above 80 to 90 to 92 is is harmful to get this percentage or its totally normal I. M worried pls reply me
Really good review of both Laptops! Helped me make up my mind on which one to get!
From a smaller youtuber like myself, I just want to say your videos are fantastic. Keep it up 😊
G18 is what I wanted the M18 to be. Your buying a 18 inch for the screen and M18 drops the ball on this one. I like alienware and love the build quality and customer service. But my Alienwares always run hot. I bought a G18 and my screen died and had to get unit replaced because of a crap repair. But Best Buy did replace it. Not sure how long I will have the G18. Since I have a laptop problem. Lol
Guys, why SCAR 4090 GPU is more cooler then STRIX 4080? Because by GPU 4090 itself? Or by SCAR better cooling?
The 4090 is more efficient at the same wattage vs the 4080. So at the same power, the 4090 will be a little bit cooler. Its also on a physically bigger die, allowing more surface area to transfer heat to the heatsink. The thermal paste or liquid metal could have been applied better on the 4090 version also.
Gerrads tech youtube channel has a video comparing 4080 vs 4090. You can see everything u need in that video. Search it
The cooling in the chassis of these 2 computers are the same
A question.The scar 16 with 4080 cost 2900$ and with 4090 cost 3700$.Worth 800$ different cost for this upgrade?
No go for 2900$ scar
@@retrogamer847 ok thank you
Do not forget about the GPU RAM amount and threshold difference (16 GB on 256-bit BUS for 4090 vs 12 GB on 192-bit BUS for 4080). Today it is only about 10-15% difference in performance, however, in 2-3 years period, it may have much more significant impact on it while playing in more advanced and graphic demanding games.
I doubt it, because the cpu seems to be a bottleneck for the GPU in most cases. I also think the PCIe 4.0 also is a bottleneck for the 4090. This problem might disspear with the new meteorlake cpu's which have PCIe 5.0
I returned my Scar 18, the Coil Whine was terrible.
Why is seems that scar 18 has a cooler GPU and hotter CPU compared with G16? Is there any difference between the cooling modules of these two computers?
The bigger the chassis is the better cooling will be usually
Should the same, but liquid metal application can vary between units. As I mentioned at the start, I know for sure Cyberpunk 2077 was ran on Turbo fan profile (maybe a couple others, I should double check), which results in less fan noise and higher temps.
@@GizmoSlipTech By the way, I want to ask again, how about i7-13650HX with 4080? Will this processor be much worse than the i9-13980HX? It seems that in Europe I can only buy g16 with this configuration, otherwise I have to pay more for scar 16
@rstk4408 bro I too got my g18 day before yesterday I play on performance and I get temperature of above 80 to 90 to 92 is is harmful to get this percentage or its totally normal I. M worried pls reply me
The 4090 is more efficient at the same wattage vs the 4080. So at the same power, the 4090 will be a little bit cooler. Its also on a physically bigger die, allowing more surface area to transfer heat to the heatsink. The thermal paste or liquid metal could have been applied better on the 4090 version also.
Gerrads tech youtube channel has a video comparing 4080 vs 4090. You can see everything u need in that video. Search it
What is allowing your CPU to use 130W during gaming with a almost full gpu load? I can't get my scar 18 2023 to go over 55W. It's a hard limit I can't seem to go over. Bios 329
i am having blue screens and gpu failure with the rtx 4070 on my Strix G18 G814JI , does anyone else has issues with the Rtx gpu?
On the Asus rog Strix g16, does the rog logo on the back light up?
I just played Battlefield 2042 multiplayer with the Asus Rog Strix 18 inch i914900HX, 32 GB 5600 MHZ, RTX 4070 in 2560x1440 in Ultra settings with Ray tracing and DLSS on and the FPS was 110-120 FPS. The GPU mode was at Ultimate with the fans on turbo (not loud at all).. Temperatures were CPU 75 degrees and GPU 63 degrees.. It performs better then on my AMD 7900X, 32GB 5200 MHZ, RX 7900 XTX desktop..
What about the screen? Is there a big difference on how the games looks in both screens?
Will Asus also be upping the supported ram speed in a bios update?
$1400 difference between the Asus Scar 18(4090) and strix G18(4080) 🥲🥲
Yeah I’d rather just get a g18 4080 and a nice 4K monitor for around $1000 lol
I believe it is just around 400$ different- correct me if I’m wrong
@@DjSETTES it legit says in the beginning of the video it’s a $1400 difference
@@DjSETTES it is 1400 different from g18 4080 and 800$ from scar 16 4080
mindblowing to see this sort of raw performance (maxed out AND with ray tracing) coming from a LAPTOP.
Amazing review, I love the energy you give during every review video, and the great comparisons you make! For now, I think I'll wait for the G18 with rtx 4080 to drop a little in price in my country (price start at around 4000$) and for sure will go for it!
You can get a fully decked out 4090 desktop for that price
@DC actually yes,but as a student and a sailor it's kinda useless to have a desktop at this time, having to travel a lot it's way easier to have a laptop =))
Was finding the way to compare these two laptops and GizmoSlipTech was the solution.
Amazing content as always! You think it's worth it to go for a 4080 that will be available 3 weeks earlier and that costs $400 less, or should I wait and go for the 4090? The performance seems so similar.
It seems to me that it might be difficult to see the difference with your eyes between the 2 of everything else is the same
Costco has the G18 for $1400.. but it has: Intel Core i9-14900HX - GeForce RTX 4060 - 2560 x 1600 240Hz - Windows 11 - 32GB RAM - 1TB SSD. Worth it?
I'm looking at the scar 4080. I think it will have the best of both worlds.. all these Configs are a bit confusing between the strix and the strix scar series, but I've sort of gotten a handle of their differences. Thanks for the vid
For those concerned about coil whine on the G18, i just got mine today and its so minimal on my unit i had to press my ear up against the machine to barely hear it. I heard from a reddit post that Asus revised the powerbrick in a way that reduces coil whine. Not sure if its true, but the newer batches are much less likely to have bad coil whine from what im seeing
I’ve had the 4080 version for about 2 weeks. No coil whine, so I’m wondering if they indeed fixed that issue. Also, almost no light bleed on the screen either.
I had no coil whine or bleed. Then my lcd went out and had to be repaired by Asus. The laptop all of sudden developed bad coil whine and replacement LCD had terrible back light bleed. Just had it replaced because the front LED strip somehow got damaged during repair also. Nightmare
I bought the 4080 model, but do you think the 4090 is not good in terms of cost-effectiveness?
Not shitting on the folks who got the 4090 ...if you got it flaunt it. I dont got it so I got the $2500 g18...and feeling like this is the deal. I dont hear any coil whine but I am a over the road truck driver and my hearing is pretty shot anyway.
When you going to review legion pro 5i with RTX 4060?
Hey GizmoSlipTech I'm wondering if 4090 is worth it especially since I have my eye on the Asus Zephyrus M16 2023 either 4080 or 4090 which is both 145W max TGP but yeah it's a slimmer model so not as powerful as the Strix/Scar lines... I would appreciate your thoughts and eagerly waiting for the Zephyrus M16 reviews.
Amazing content , i enjoyed every minute, thx for superb comparision, really outstanding channel 👍👍
Thank you Gabriel! 👍
I Bought Strix G18 today(from BB) but returned it due to screen bleed, Actually love the laptop and tried to convince myself to keep it but backlight bleed was too noticable
That really varies from unit to unit. Maybe a different one would less bleed. But it sounds like a mini led or oled might be more your taste.
What do you prefer my friend and what device do you recommend to finish the games? Scar 18 and Strix G18
4080
4090
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I bought 18 version for $2000 including official backpack, keyboard and mouse. Am I ripped off?
Can you check for 4k resolution, may be there's more difference in that resolution
It should be a higher percentage performance improvement, yes. I might end up testing that at some point down the line
Thanks guy for clarify review. I wonder when would we have flagship laptop with ryzen 9 7945HX? Seem like Asus will not put highest option for AMD, at least this gen.
Check my latest stream! Zephyrus Duo 16 has a 7945HX in it!
i saw a G18 4070 with RGB on the logo....do some G18 models come with an illuminated logo?
Has he ever mentioned which laptop his is going to go with. He said it wasn't these. But which one does he like? I've searched his video's and I either missed it or he hasn't said.
Excellent comparison 👏 ❤
Why is cpu usage so low on strix (rarely over 2%) while the scar is at an average of 20%?
Glad to see, when it comes to laptop GPU's, the difference between 4080/4090 isn't that big given the price increase. I am eyeing a Asus M16 4080 myself.
Bro 13900H from M16 is Better or 13980hx from scar 16 In India scar 16 4080 is bit cheaper than M16 4080 idk
@@Carandtechtalks how is that even a question friend? The 13980HX is clearly better, it has more cores, more threads, and is unlocked so you can use Intel XTU.
I’m looking at the scar strix 17 with the amd 7945 and the 4090. Im seeing good reviews on the AMD processor so far. You think it’s a good purchase? It’s about 300 less than the scar strix 18
How can i see the performance stats like you have shown in your video ?
Have been waiting this one!
Thank you for such a useful video!
Very glad I got the G18, coming in tomorrow!
REVIEW AND PRBLEMS ABUT IT PLEASE STATE
@rstk4408 bro I too got my g18 day before yesterday I play on performance and I get temperature of above 80 to 90 to 92 is is harmful to get this percentage or its totally normal I. M worried pls reply me
@@MD.Nibras no need to be tensed if below 97 celsis or 99 as asus strix can hadle this much
The only thing is you can get 64gb ram with the 4090 model, only 32gb with the other
Is the difference between 1080p and 1440p noticeable on the 18 inch screen?
I tested today ASUS ROG Strix SCAR 18 geforce 4080 on benchmark, and temperature was very hight around 82 с and peak 95 с temperature, are this normal for work?
won't my computer go bad if I play games or work in 3d programs? Or for example work in unreal engine, icompare with lenovo legion 7 pro geforce 4080, is 16 diagonal, but not so hot.
Is the G18 limited to only 16GB and 1TB of Ram and SSD?
It is upgradable
I Got the G18 4080 I upgraded it to 96 gb ram 5200 MHz and two Samsung 4tb 990 pros in raid 0 its zooming.
You are doing great job man🎉
I saw that you have a video on the emdoor ryzen 9 7940hs laptop. How much do u think it weighed when u held it>
probably around 5.8-6.5 lbs range.
ASUS Scar 18 (2023) I wonder xmp can be enabled on the bios? even if 4800mhz ? so i can use 4800mhz 34cl stiks?
Bro I too got my g18 day before yesterday I play on performance and I get temperature of above 80 to 90 to 92 is is harmful to get this percentage or its totally normal I. M worried pls reply me
The g18 doesnt have the mini led screen though :(
ive always bought the top tier graphics card and sacrificed the cpu and ram. this time around i think ill go all in. it will be future proofed for a bit. i got the 1080ti, skipped the 20 series, and got the 3090 when it came out. to be honest, my 1080ti still kicks butt. to end my rant lol, it would make sense to get the 4090 because you cant upgrade and the few extra fps could mean the difference in playable and unplayable a few years down the road.
Will the 5080 mobile have more vram than 4080 in here?
Is the 4080/4090 $500 price difference worth it in the Lenovo Legion 7i Gen 8's? Price points a bit closer together than other manufacturers it seems...
Ikr I’m stuck on this debate too
I’m thinking about going for the 4090 but, what I’m worried about, is if it’ll have heating issues such as the legion 7i with its 3080 ti. I was almost about to purchase the all AMD version of the legion 7 but I just had to wait and see for the 4000’s series and now I’m stuck between the 4080 and 4090
It is only $500 dollars more tho 🤔
Think about % increase in unit cost vs % increase in observed performance, for better perspective.
Think how long you'll want to keep the laptop (it's speculative, but more VRAM/bus more cores and slightly lower operating temps - since both 4080M and 4090M are limited to the same max TGP of 175W - should help it stay functional and relevant for longer).
Unlike laptops of last decade, there is no potential for upgrade. No opportunity to buy midrange and do a mid-life upgrade to a high end GPU, when performance starts lagging behind. So what you buy is what you get, there will be no relatively cheap 'trade-up' options these days.
You may be able to justify the premium for the 4090M based on sane considerations and pricing, the Eluktronics Mech16/Mech17 is a similar markup over the 4080M. For comparison though, $1400usd here though when they're both gimped by display res and CPU power limit, and bundled with extra RAM/SSD you might not need (or can probably get cheaper elsewhere) is clearly not worth it.
Yeah another thing holding me back from getting the Lenovo pro 7i with the 4080 is that it comes with only 12 Gb of vram while the 4090 comes with 16 gb if the 4080 came with 16 I would’ve bought it already
I am going to upgrade from an old Lenovo legion laptop with a 1660ti and an i7 to either an Asus m16 with a 12th gen i9 and 3070ti or to an Asus Strix G18 with a 13th gen i9 and 4070 which would you recommend? I was concerned with the thermal issues of the m16. But I have also heard that 4070 is not much better than 3070ti
I would buy the Strix G18 for the better thermals, Frame Generation, better CPU, and bigger display-but it is larger in size. That is the biggest difference
Couldn't find a Strix G18 selling at 2499😢
Does both have same motherboard?
No everyone this resolution is really low the higher the resolution the better frames you'll see on the 4090 over the 4080 4K is when you start to see the results and I honestly don't want to play 1080p
Is a gaming laptop worth it? Over a desktop. I’m the guy who had a desktop and sold it. It sat there collecting dust as most my friends are on ps5. The idea of a gaming laptop is sick because it’s mobil and can game like crazy. Not sure I can justify the purchase tho lol
I probably won't ever go back to desktop. You do lose alot of upgradeability with a gaming laptop but the fact that you can game anywhere that has a power outlet is such a plus with me, and with these particular ones its high end desktop equivalent. It's a great choice for people that just want a gaming machine they can travel with, if price isn't an issue I would pick a gaming laptop over a console, definitely.
its depends. Huge giant heavy DTR (biggest of the big, 6kg 2inch thick Clevo with desktop CPU + 2x GPUs) works for me. I have had multiple workplaces for 15+ years, hate being tethered to the same desk all day long, don't game on battery, am never that far away from a power outlet, and I am massively impatient so NEED powerful hardware. The GPU power is also nice to play games with. That level of luggability is all I need. The only problem with having work and play on the same machine is discipline lol. I write it off as a business expense over 3 years against income tax and hold it for years more so the annualised cost of ownership is not as bad as the initial pricetag suggests. If anyone from the tax dept is reading, what I meant to say was I use those GPUs only for business activities such as video encoding and running 3x 4K displays.
I am waiting for a Strix !8 vs MSI GE78HX.
MSI GE78HX unboxing is today!
@@GizmoSlipTech Sweet, interested in seeing what you think.
@@GizmoSlipTech yay!!! 🥰🤩😍
I will watch live if possible. I ordered an ASUS on Amazon will only arrive Saturday so I have time to return and change if MSI is better :D
"makes me wonder if the scar 18 wasnt in turbo fan mode"
Tighten up
To the people complaining about 4090 not worth buy - don't buy it then...nobody is forcing you.
It is diminishing returns as with all others things.
Even with sport cars for every 0.1sec faster you will pay much, much more. And the lower you get the more expense the incremental upgrades become.
If money is not a problem and your main priority is getting the absolute best, get the 4090, otherwise you will be perfectly fine gaming with 4080 at a bit lower fpd.
Coil whine?
I have an 18 SCAR. Less than one year later, my SSDs died. I had two 1T SSD.
That’s really concerning. I value reliability over anything. Did both fail at the same time? That would be very odd. Did you discover the cause?
I hope you were able to recover an essential data.
@Adam-vs4ec I didn't check them individually, I just considered both of them dead. I ordered another two SSDs, and now everything is working fine.
I obviously had zero drivers installed and no internet wire, so I had to manually deactivate the Net function so I could install the windows without internet first.
One thing is different know, I have lower Ampere values on my new SSDs. Do you think it is concerning? I am not an expert. The old ones had 2.8 A, and the new ones have 1.9 A.
Is the G18 upgradeable to 64 GB RAM?
Whar's better the strix or the scar?
Im buying a laptop, the 4090 is 600USd more than the 4080 version, worth it or pass?
110w on the CPU is insane. My 6800H uses 25w
why no review for scar 16 4080 or 4090?
Waiting for it to arrive still
@@GizmoSlipTech ok nice
Can someone explain why laptop with 4090 has such higher temp during benchmarks? Same CPU's, and same TDP of GPU's. I wanted to go for 4080, but i want to go for 4090 bcs it was much lower temps, which is most important for laptops. But why 4090 had such higher temps on CPU?
The 4090 is more efficient at the same wattage vs the 4080. So at the same power, the 4090 will be a little bit cooler. Its also on a physically bigger die, allowing more surface area to transfer heat to the heatsink. The thermal paste or liquid metal could have been applied better on the 4090 version also.
Gerrads tech youtube channel has a video comparing 4080 vs 4090. You can see everything u need in that video. Search it.
@@bigtwinz3296 Thanks, but it doesnt explain higher CPU temp with 4090?
@@bloodthyrsty yeah not sure. They are same cpu with same vapor chamber and everything. My guess would be either the cpu on the 4080 was thermal throttling itself more and then running less watts bc of higher initial temps. Or the 4080 computer had a better application of liquid metal? Probably the 2nd guess. Laptop to laptop variation
@@bigtwinz3296 well, in the end i bought g814 N6070W with 4070 and 13980hx , and upgraded RAM + SSD, didnt expect i will buy this low gpu, but ihad gtx 1070, this is increase about 100%, but last 2 years playing anyway games from 90's or early 00's and diablo 4 which is okey for 4070.. welp
G18 has a Nebula display, but the Scar has a Nebula HDR display with mini LED, that's the big reason for price difference.
no look at it again i don't think scar 18 is miniled
@@hdkleecehennemi scar 18 is mini led. Otherwise it wouldn’t cost $4000
@@andrewx8888 na miniled version came this year, when the video first created it wasn't miniled.
Where can I buy the G18 for 2500?
In germany that shit cost 3500
yes, here we pay 4080 price for the 4070 g18, no way i'm spending 3500 or 4000 dollars in a laptop, and rest of 4080s in the 2000 range are hot garbage, i want a complete laptop, not a shit with a 4080, so i ended up with the rog g18 4070 for 1900
Will there be an alienware m18 review?
Surly my next laptop will be the g18
Thank you gizmo u r the best
When will asus rog rtx 40 series laptop launch in india any idea ??