Before I watched your Tugs Iceberg Explained, I never realized that the first scenes of the Zed Stacks at the Munitions factory was stock footage from High Tide. I also noticed that the 15 minute cut is a lot more polished in terms of actual video quality than the 20 minute VHS copies. Obviously the 20 minute cuts of Munitions, Sunshine, Regatta and Pirate were released technically unfinished for television broadcasting, but even then
I've watched the 20 cut too many times to count and have wondered what exactly was changed between the two. But I'll be honest, as much as I adore the full 20, I kind of prefer the 15's ending. It's a bit more accurate to the events of the episode while the 20 just seems odd, saying "Bluenose was right in his way", when throughout the series, and nowhere more than this episode, he is consistently in the wrong, idk feels weird. Many thanks for putting this together, and happy TUGS-iversary!
What he means is, Bluenose acted with the Navy's best interests in mind but he went about it the wrong way. As a result of the investigation into the fire, it would more then likely come to light he was responsible, both for starting it and as the Naval Supervisor, seeing as the others were Civilian Contractors resulting in him most likely being either demoted or discharged on psychological grounds
Maybe someone on here could make a hybrid version of the episode, combining the best of both and maybe adding the music for the duration of the fire scene.
That annoyed me when I was younger. Now I think they were trying to say the TUGS were following their own rules; Bluenose followed Navy protocol, and the TUGS followed the orders of their captains and the dock regulations. Both of these rules have their places, and I think this is what was meant by they were right in their own way. However, this didn't give enough credit to how crazy and entitled Bluenose was. I think Ten Cents and OJ should have just stepped aside and let Bluenose do his thing, given the dangerous contents that were being unloaded, but Bluenose was wayyy more in the wrong, and the 20 minute cut made it sound like more of an even blame among all the tugs.
Seeing both openings together is really jarring, because its all flooding back to me that the 20 minute version is how it's always played in my head, no doubt due to watching it over and over again on VHS as a kid, weird how it just triggers your brain like that!
I like how Zorran tells Ten Cents to get out of danger. Like, yeah, we don't like the Stars and we'll resort to any means necessary to get one over on them, but we don't want to see one get blown up because of some arsehole's stupidity.
It just occurred to me Bluenose's vocal performance was a take on Windsor Davies, who might be best known as being one of the main characters in the BBC sitcom 'It Ain't Half Hot Mum', and who more-or-less solidified himself as THE actor for officer figures in what he did, where he delivered a sense of heart underneath an officious exterior. I kind of like therefore how TUGS' producers basically decided to play with that trope by showing Bluenose be not respectful towards others in satisfying his orders. Regards, Samuel Farris.
I originally thought that Sean Barrett was talking to himself at the start but it turns out that He only voices Hercules & someone called Mike O'Malley voiced Bluenose
How did you get a high quality TV version of Munitions? Edit: I would also like to thank you for making me feel like the 20 minute cut is even more incomplete than it actually is.
Why didn’t Big Mickey survive in the VHS version? Why was Patrick Allen’s narration about Big Mickey lying in shallow water removed? It was a consolation that Big Mickey survived the dramatic fire.
it wasn't removed, the VHS came first. they made it clear Big Mickey survived in the broadcast cut because he appears alive and well in a episode aired after this one (High Tide)
The audience wouldn’t have any idea, which episodes were broadcasted of Tugs in chronological order, unless they had seen every single episodes on their original transmission dates 1988/1989.
My biggest criticism Zorran wasn't even mentioned in captain starr's closing narration. Zorran and OJ helped contribute to the disaster yet it implies only OJ and Ten Cents and Bluenose was at fault
I am tempted make an edited video which mashes together both scenes from the 20 and 15 minute cuts from the episode to make it feel complete. But I’m not sure if it will happen.
4:44 Never gets old.
I love how his monocle falls off there, that's such a great little subtle touch.🧐👌
Before I watched your Tugs Iceberg Explained, I never realized that the first scenes of the Zed Stacks at the Munitions factory was stock footage from High Tide. I also noticed that the 15 minute cut is a lot more polished in terms of actual video quality than the 20 minute VHS copies. Obviously the 20 minute cuts of Munitions, Sunshine, Regatta and Pirate were released technically unfinished for television broadcasting, but even then
18:08 When a filming blooper becomes an in-universe occurrence; a self aware type of thing
I've watched the 20 cut too many times to count and have wondered what exactly was changed between the two. But I'll be honest, as much as I adore the full 20, I kind of prefer the 15's ending. It's a bit more accurate to the events of the episode while the 20 just seems odd, saying "Bluenose was right in his way", when throughout the series, and nowhere more than this episode, he is consistently in the wrong, idk feels weird.
Many thanks for putting this together, and happy TUGS-iversary!
What he means is, Bluenose acted with the Navy's best interests in mind but he went about it the wrong way.
As a result of the investigation into the fire, it would more then likely come to light he was responsible, both for starting it and as the Naval Supervisor, seeing as the others were Civilian Contractors resulting in him most likely being either demoted or discharged on psychological grounds
Maybe someone on here could make a hybrid version of the episode, combining the best of both and maybe adding the music for the duration of the fire scene.
I agree with that statement completely
That annoyed me when I was younger. Now I think they were trying to say the TUGS were following their own rules; Bluenose followed Navy protocol, and the TUGS followed the orders of their captains and the dock regulations. Both of these rules have their places, and I think this is what was meant by they were right in their own way. However, this didn't give enough credit to how crazy and entitled Bluenose was. I think Ten Cents and OJ should have just stepped aside and let Bluenose do his thing, given the dangerous contents that were being unloaded, but Bluenose was wayyy more in the wrong, and the 20 minute cut made it sound like more of an even blame among all the tugs.
Seeing both openings together is really jarring, because its all flooding back to me that the 20 minute version is how it's always played in my head, no doubt due to watching it over and over again on VHS as a kid, weird how it just triggers your brain like that!
I like how Zorran tells Ten Cents to get out of danger. Like, yeah, we don't like the Stars and we'll resort to any means necessary to get one over on them, but we don't want to see one get blown up because of some arsehole's stupidity.
It just occurred to me Bluenose's vocal performance was a take on Windsor Davies, who might be best known as being one of the main characters in the BBC sitcom 'It Ain't Half Hot Mum', and who more-or-less solidified himself as THE actor for officer figures in what he did, where he delivered a sense of heart underneath an officious exterior. I kind of like therefore how TUGS' producers basically decided to play with that trope by showing Bluenose be not respectful towards others in satisfying his orders. Regards, Samuel Farris.
Imagine the production team this would have been fun to work on
I like this, seeing the differences between the 20 and 15 cuts on my favourite episode of TUGS
The opening dialogue between Hercules and Bluenose is far better in the VHS version. It's much more of a burn
I kinda liked the music that WA sonly present in the 50 minute cut it was much more suspenseful maybe a fan edit to include the music
Having Zorran's face paused for a minute while at the munitions factory was not the prettiest sight.
My grandfather had a Sergeant Major like Bluenose back when he did his National Service
That Music in the 15 Minute Cut though...
great video edward numer w
If only the other episodes had their 20 minute cuts released.
If there was any 20 minute cuts you would trade for another episode which episode would you trade for the other?
I originally thought that Sean Barrett was talking to himself at the start but it turns out that He only voices Hercules & someone called Mike O'Malley voiced Bluenose
How did you get a high quality TV version of Munitions?
Edit: I would also like to thank you for making me feel like the 20 minute cut is even more incomplete than it actually is.
TigerV uploaded the 15 min version that was on tv, but ThomasUK has uploaded the episodes in high quality/restored. With the 20s done as well.
Why didn’t Big Mickey survive in the VHS version? Why was Patrick Allen’s narration about Big Mickey lying in shallow water removed? It was a consolation that Big Mickey survived the dramatic fire.
it wasn't removed, the VHS came first. they made it clear Big Mickey survived in the broadcast cut because he appears alive and well in a episode aired after this one (High Tide)
The audience wouldn’t have any idea, which episodes were broadcasted of Tugs in chronological order, unless they had seen every single episodes on their original transmission dates 1988/1989.
Both ending messages are the same but one was rewritten
My biggest criticism Zorran wasn't even mentioned in captain starr's closing narration. Zorran and OJ helped contribute to the disaster yet it implies only OJ and Ten Cents and Bluenose was at fault
I don’t get why he mentioned anyone besides Bluenose as well, since it was just Bluenose who caused the disaster.
@@josephmarrison4606most likely plotlines that were removed, we don't know what OJ did but its probably about the buoys.
Ironically, the 15 minute cut seems cleaner than the 20 minute tape.
Different introductions... huh
I am tempted make an edited video which mashes together both scenes from the 20 and 15 minute cuts from the episode to make it feel complete. But I’m not sure if it will happen.
I prefer the TV Version, since Big Mickey survives, more epic music is played, and the ending dialogue makes a whole lot more sense.
same here.
Same here
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I agreed with you, the TV version was less 20 minutes and better than the VHS
Can you do this same but with sunshine, pirate and regatta please?
The Star Switcher Did The Sunshine One
In a future video can you please talk about Tugs lost media?
I prefer the TV Version, since Big Mickey survives, more epic music is played, and the ending dialogue makes a whole lot more sense.