My personal list could be like: 5-zhongli:he doesn't have any bis team and lost some value since furina's releases 4-venti:VV is kinda broken and he can be bis in some situations 3-Raiden:energy requirements are much comfortable,reasonable amount of damage and hyperbloom trigger 2-furina:she has A LOT of team compositions,easy to play and with nice results 1-nahida:literally bis in most dendro comps,easy to build and play,and with lots of supporting to her teams
Nahida isn’t really the best in slot in some characters teams anymore anymore though. And not to mention Nahida ONLY is best/good in Dendro Teams. Furina on the other hand makes ANY Team’s Damage floor from bad to good enough / Average to Best, and the already best ones better. She also highly synergies with healers that everyone (9out of 10) want but can’t because they can “only” heal. But now any healer with Furina is a Damage amplification. She is basically the Veredescent Venerer to Kazuha, Sucrose or other Anemo character debuffers/buffer to Any Healer of any element.
@banir3736 genshin is dendro meta nahida is the best in dendro teams it's that simple yes you can do vaporise or any other team but a 4 star dendro team is better than any other teams in genshin nahida is by far the best character
Xiangling is very overrated. She needs a LOT of investment, and becomes strong mainly with c2/c4. Hyperbloom deals way more damage and is easier to build. Benett is insane though.
Idk man, i can lose anyone else apart all the archons. The OP side of them is just a bonus, the archon quest is getting better and better, it's really sad to the point of depression for a lore enthusiasts like me playing the archon quests without having them, so everyone is worth a pull
Oh no, I totally agree with you. I play genshin for archons too. But the thing is not everyone else does, and they need to decide who to get with their limited funds. Hence, this video.
Surely it's 5 - venti 4 - zhongli (can be switched but no one does what zhongli does, venti has replacements and an improvement) 3 - Raiden (3 seems low but it's just because top 2 are crazy) 2 - Nahida 1 - Furina (I don't know Nahida that well but Furina buffs everyone so well and she does decent damage)
I prefarmed Raiden already and have the catch r 5 max level also the artifacts i have for her give her 70 % crit rate 204% crit damage and 224% elemental recharge. I still don't have raiden though😅
@@amaljob5383 sorry, didn't get a notification for this😂 not really, you can have someone that heals the active character and switch between them whilst you use their skill+burst. Bennet for example. Or you have the option to utilise furinas overflow. Last option is an hp fluctuator like Neuvillette or wrio and if you can't keep the rest alive a shielder. Her buff is too good and damage isn't bad at all
@@OfficialMummyCat she's amazing, has so many roles she can play. You've gone for on field DPS which is really fun. I've used her as off field hyperbloom and on field to DPS and activate hyperbloom as well (which was one of my favourite teams). It's just really hard to rank them because although she's so good dendro just wouldn't be what it is without nahida and it's the most op element. The only way I could come close funnily enough is with Furina. I have all the archon's now and I wouldn't change the list, now just to see where the pyro archon fits in😁
Nahida is the best as per my experience. Raiden has really good battery support, electro application and good enough DMG but dendro reactions are insane. If you have kuki(c0 is good enough but c2 is a bit comfortable) then you casually skip raiden but pull her on next rerun
yep!! me too! same. FTP here.. But they say Raiden C0 is not good... but.. she appears 1 a year.. while nahida like 2. And I don't prefer dendro teams.. but well... i think i need her for damage.
Furina and nahida are pretty much in the same level character power wise . It's just nahida is only and only broken dendro off field applyer, meanwhile furina is one of the 3. But for a second if xingqiu and yelan didn't exist, furina would've more valuable since the only competition she would have is ayato and kokomi who works differently 💀
i agree with the list but swap furina and nahida , while nahida ends up as the main dendo applicator in the game , furina in the other hand is facing hard cometition in both hydro and buffing departement and it doesn't help either that she requires a healer and rotations become harder to manage with her on the team what kills an archon is propably the competition and people tend to ignore that
The problem with Nahida is that she ONLY works on dendro teams. And with the adition of Furina, Bhaizu-Furina can even do better than Nahida plus another healer like Kuki. Some people just haven’t realize it yet. And the “requirement” of healer has always existed in every teams ever since the game started which makes it a “non” requirement most of the time. Same as Nahida requiring reactions, (most of her damage REQUIRES it) the reason we don’t see it is because reactions is PART of the game. But what of Non-reaction based team? Nahida is useless on those. Furina on the other hand is useful in almost any team if now ANY TEAM.
@@banir3736and that isn't a bad thing.. you can use her in reverse melt, burgeon, hyperbloom, aggravate, etc.. Dendro reactions are awesome. Plus, furina very much needs a healer, for each team she is in, which may not be viable for newer players. Basically, furina is great, but shines and becomes the stronger character with cons. Nahida is the best at C0 for newer players. Furina is better for intermediate or advanced players who don't care about dendro reactions.
I'm definitely going for Furina because my first team is Tighnari quicken and I don't want another dendro/electro team. Venti's just not good and I prefer healers over shielders for Zhongli. Maybe I'll like Mavuika
At this point in game I would say get furina and raiden, they are tbh the best archons outthere for support and damage category. You can literally run DMC instead of nahida on you account and through abyss. Sucrose is a good 4 star so you can wait to get venti or kazuha and you really dont need shield unles its copellia boss which just hits you like its monday and you drank all night on sunday.
I have both Raiden and Nahida and being able to damage 8 enemies at once from any distance with Nahida is a comfort I didn't know I needed. I would cry for days on end having to use DMC over Nahida.
I use furina and nahida on different teams, so i'll be trying to get nahida to c2 on her rerun. I still enjoy using nahida alot, ever since her archon quest. And furina.. Well she is my first ever c2 5* unit with her weapon.. She deserves the world
What weapon and artifacts are you using? What about your crit rate and crit damage? You can join my discord to share so that the members can advice too 👍
@@Snigen203 Xiangling C6, build "The Catch" for her, and increase her ATK and Crit Damage. Also a lot of the big numbers you're seeing from Xiangling is from having Bennett or Furina on the team boosting her damage.
I am close to hit pity(67 pity) and i recently got Raiden i am confused between Nahida and Furina . As Nahida is coming up next and Furina will get her rerun after a few patches. Can someone suggest for whom should i pull.
dont have to worry about how enemies go flying with nahidais hold hands chains. altho wonder what danmage would get if could get seele to then break the chains?
Wait, is raiden really weak at C0??? Like I never felt tht, she is as strong as any other hypercarry at C0 and at C2 or above, she just becomes the single best damage dealer in game and it's not even close unless you C6 other archons. Although you have to pull only one archon, it'd be nahida....
how zhongli is above raiden, like raiden is a great dops at c0, raiden national doble hydro raiden are such great team her gained usage with dendro that made her em build excellent for dendro teams her new gained ceiling with furina that made her a great dps even at c0 like her outfield electro application alone made her above venti and zhongli
I want a strong on field dps, and I heard c0 raiden was amazing, but this vid tells me otherwise. Can u please recommend dps archon? (Or any other char except hydro)
Raiden , nahida , furina even all archons fits every team that's y they known archons and every archon gives best off field application only archons cam provide with their skill only.
Hi guys I don't know what to do 😭 My only limited 5 start characters are C0 Zhongli, C3 Hu Tao, C0 Raiden Shogun and C1 Kaedehara Kazuha 😢 What are the next 5 stars characters I should get? I don't even have nahida, yelan, furina, kokomi... but I need C2/C3 Raiden Shogun right? And I should go with C2 Kaedehara Kazuha as well right? I don't even know... I don't even have a built non-pyro main dps yet...
My list is exactly the same. The only thing I differ on is C2 Raiden. If we're talking versatility, a C0 Zhongli is more versatile than a C2 Raiden. The constellations only make her stronger for players who already enjoy using her on field. Whereas other archons are more universal.
Good video yet I hard disagree with some things. Zhongli is useless and is a damage loss especially now that furina exists. Raiden's c2 should technically be number 1 since it changes her play style and furina's c2 and nahida's both just make what they normally do better. So furina, nahida, raiden for c0 based on the c2 only raiden would be 1 but at c2 level for the characters it would be furina, nahida, and raiden. I've got c6 furina, c3 raiden, and c3 nahida. The other 2 don't even exist for my account.
Lmao dude Dendro enables Kuki and Thoma not Nahida, you can replace her with Dendro MC and still 36* easliy. Such misinformation. For abyss, Zhongli and Venti are only great situationally. Raiden and Nahida are far more useful than them overall. Furina i'd say would be after Raiden and Nahida since she is mainly for her damage buffering.
My personal list could be like:
5-zhongli:he doesn't have any bis team and lost some value since furina's releases
4-venti:VV is kinda broken and he can be bis in some situations
3-Raiden:energy requirements are much comfortable,reasonable amount of damage and hyperbloom trigger
2-furina:she has A LOT of team compositions,easy to play and with nice results
1-nahida:literally bis in most dendro comps,easy to build and play,and with lots of supporting to her teams
I agree with your list
Nahida isn’t really the best in slot in some characters teams anymore anymore though. And not to mention Nahida ONLY is best/good in Dendro Teams. Furina on the other hand makes ANY Team’s Damage floor from bad to good enough / Average to Best, and the already best ones better. She also highly synergies with healers that everyone (9out of 10) want but can’t because they can “only” heal. But now any healer with Furina is a Damage amplification. She is basically the Veredescent Venerer to Kazuha, Sucrose or other Anemo character debuffers/buffer to Any Healer of any element.
Also c2 Furina beats c2 Nahida, c2 Yelan, c6 Xq, c6 Benny and c2 Kazuha by a LONG shot.
@banir3736 genshin is dendro meta nahida is the best in dendro teams it's that simple yes you can do vaporise or any other team but a 4 star dendro team is better than any other teams in genshin nahida is by far the best character
@phuongtruongtran6219 nahida c2 is better and if you want to do yelan just do c6 it's better benny c5 is better even c1 is better
I would say the best of them all are the pyro archons: bennett and xiangling
Xiangling is very overrated. She needs a LOT of investment, and becomes strong mainly with c2/c4. Hyperbloom deals way more damage and is easier to build.
Benett is insane though.
Xiangling is part of the house of the heart not an archon
It’s Nahida and it’s not even close. Raiden, Neuvillette and Furina are next. Zhongli and Venti fell off long ago.
Not really. 😂
Neulliete😂😂😂😂
@@itsame7491 Another waifu main coping 🫵😂
@@FBl well nuevy is an on fielder, a really good on fielder but his value is like 75% less than the ones tht don't need field time....
@@itsame7491 Bruh why would anyone use Neuvillette as an off fielder when he solos the game on his own anyway 🤣
Idk man, i can lose anyone else apart all the archons. The OP side of them is just a bonus, the archon quest is getting better and better, it's really sad to the point of depression for a lore enthusiasts like me playing the archon quests without having them, so everyone is worth a pull
Oh no, I totally agree with you. I play genshin for archons too.
But the thing is not everyone else does, and they need to decide who to get with their limited funds. Hence, this video.
Surely it's
5 - venti
4 - zhongli (can be switched but no one does what zhongli does, venti has replacements and an improvement)
3 - Raiden (3 seems low but it's just because top 2 are crazy)
2 - Nahida
1 - Furina (I don't know Nahida that well but Furina buffs everyone so well and she does decent damage)
Furina is not that good bro, you need a full party healer for her
I prefarmed Raiden already and have the catch r 5 max level also the artifacts i have for her give her 70 % crit rate 204% crit damage and 224% elemental recharge. I still don't have raiden though😅
So release order
@@amaljob5383 sorry, didn't get a notification for this😂 not really, you can have someone that heals the active character and switch between them whilst you use their skill+burst. Bennet for example. Or you have the option to utilise furinas overflow. Last option is an hp fluctuator like Neuvillette or wrio and if you can't keep the rest alive a shielder. Her buff is too good and damage isn't bad at all
@@OfficialMummyCat she's amazing, has so many roles she can play. You've gone for on field DPS which is really fun. I've used her as off field hyperbloom and on field to DPS and activate hyperbloom as well (which was one of my favourite teams). It's just really hard to rank them because although she's so good dendro just wouldn't be what it is without nahida and it's the most op element. The only way I could come close funnily enough is with Furina. I have all the archon's now and I wouldn't change the list, now just to see where the pyro archon fits in😁
I'm so torn between getting raiden or waiting for nahida because my next 5* is guaranteed 😭😭
Personally I would say Nahida, since she has more utility and can fit in more teams :D
Nahida is the best as per my experience. Raiden has really good battery support, electro application and good enough DMG but dendro reactions are insane. If you have kuki(c0 is good enough but c2 is a bit comfortable) then you casually skip raiden but pull her on next rerun
yep!! me too! same. FTP here.. But they say Raiden C0 is not good... but.. she appears 1 a year.. while nahida like 2.
And I don't prefer dendro teams.. but well... i think i need her for damage.
In the end, did you manage to not pull for Raiden? 😂
I'm F2P but managed to get both. Killed me but I did it.
Furina and nahida are pretty much in the same level character power wise . It's just nahida is only and only broken dendro off field applyer, meanwhile furina is one of the 3.
But for a second if xingqiu and yelan didn't exist, furina would've more valuable since the only competition she would have is ayato and kokomi who works differently 💀
And comparing ayato or kokomi with furina is same as comparing DMC or yaoyao or baizhu's dendro application with nahida's application
i agree with the list but swap furina and nahida , while nahida ends up as the main dendo applicator in the game , furina in the other hand is facing hard cometition in both hydro and buffing departement and it doesn't help either that she requires a healer and rotations become harder to manage with her on the team
what kills an archon is propably the competition and people tend to ignore that
The problem with Nahida is that she ONLY works on dendro teams. And with the adition of Furina, Bhaizu-Furina can even do better than Nahida plus another healer like Kuki. Some people just haven’t realize it yet.
And the “requirement” of healer has always existed in every teams ever since the game started which makes it a “non” requirement most of the time. Same as Nahida requiring reactions, (most of her damage REQUIRES it) the reason we don’t see it is because reactions is PART of the game. But what of Non-reaction based team? Nahida is useless on those. Furina on the other hand is useful in almost any team if now ANY TEAM.
@@banir3736and that isn't a bad thing.. you can use her in reverse melt, burgeon, hyperbloom, aggravate, etc..
Dendro reactions are awesome. Plus, furina very much needs a healer, for each team she is in, which may not be viable for newer players.
Basically, furina is great, but shines and becomes the stronger character with cons.
Nahida is the best at C0 for newer players. Furina is better for intermediate or advanced players who don't care about dendro reactions.
Furinaaa😍 my first and only archon. I will c6 her on her rerun. I have already c3 now . hehehe . she is so amzing. She .ade my account full of color 😄
Mine too, she works with every characters in my roaster
Same goes here as well😊
i have furina and venti, planning on getting raiden on her rerun
@@loreyxilluminawould she work good w Hu Tao and is she worth it if I already have c1 Xingqiu and c0 Yelan?
@@kaynaatarora6943 she's definitely worth it, she's in Hutao's best in slot team
I'm definitely going for Furina because my first team is Tighnari quicken and I don't want another dendro/electro team. Venti's just not good and I prefer healers over shielders for Zhongli. Maybe I'll like Mavuika
Hey, i wanted to know could make a guide for Ayato?😅
I got him accidentally while pulling Kuki and now I don't know what to do
At this point in game I would say get furina and raiden, they are tbh the best archons outthere for support and damage category. You can literally run DMC instead of nahida on you account and through abyss. Sucrose is a good 4 star so you can wait to get venti or kazuha and you really dont need shield unles its copellia boss which just hits you like its monday and you drank all night on sunday.
dmc is not even comparable to nahida
Me when a stray pyro element attack from the enemy ruins my whole dendro mc ult.
I have both Raiden and Nahida and being able to damage 8 enemies at once from any distance with Nahida is a comfort I didn't know I needed. I would cry for days on end having to use DMC over Nahida.
Raiden is very weak🤣
I use furina and nahida on different teams, so i'll be trying to get nahida to c2 on her rerun. I still enjoy using nahida alot, ever since her archon quest. And furina.. Well she is my first ever c2 5* unit with her weapon.. She deserves the world
c0 Nahida > c0 Furina
c2 Nahida < c2 Furina
Yes..c2 nahida is still insane though
Chargedcoin why does my xiangling only do 5k damage?
What weapon and artifacts are you using? What about your crit rate and crit damage? You can join my discord to share so that the members can advice too 👍
@@ChargedCoin 185 er 362 em 805 attack 10 over 60 crit I have dragons bane with emblem of severed fate
@@Snigen203 Xiangling C6, build "The Catch" for her, and increase her ATK and Crit Damage. Also a lot of the big numbers you're seeing from Xiangling is from having Bennett or Furina on the team boosting her damage.
@@hallyuniverse my xiangling is c1 and I use bennet xiangling furina and yaoyao with lvl6 talents
I am close to hit pity(67 pity) and i recently got Raiden i am confused between Nahida and Furina . As Nahida is coming up next and Furina will get her rerun after a few patches. Can someone suggest for whom should i pull.
Nahida
Furina buffs better but go for nahida if you're going for a dendro team
Fontaine OST is so good 😭
dont have to worry about how enemies go flying with nahidais hold hands chains. altho wonder what danmage would get if could get seele to then break the chains?
Wait, is raiden really weak at C0??? Like I never felt tht, she is as strong as any other hypercarry at C0 and at C2 or above, she just becomes the single best damage dealer in game and it's not even close unless you C6 other archons.
Although you have to pull only one archon, it'd be nahida....
😢yes she is
how zhongli is above raiden, like raiden is a great dops at c0,
raiden national
doble hydro raiden
are such great team
her gained usage with dendro that made her em build excellent for dendro teams
her new gained ceiling with furina that made her a great dps even at c0
like her outfield electro application alone made her above venti and zhongli
Cry
puke@@fireskullyt7580
I totally agree with you.
I want a strong on field dps, and I heard c0 raiden was amazing, but this vid tells me otherwise. Can u please recommend dps archon? (Or any other char except hydro)
Nahida. You can look at the teams I’m using with her.
@@ChargedCoin I did see all your teams and that's why I'm 🤔confused because I don't have any 5*s to put with her, and I only need dps for abyss
@@pran149 no need 5*. You can use xingqiu and kuki with her. Then a wildcard character like Yaoyao can work too
@@ChargedCoin Can c0 9 star floor 12? Because I have c0 kuki and xq
@@pran149 you can try 👍
Raiden , nahida , furina even all archons fits every team that's y they known archons and every archon gives best off field application only archons cam provide with their skill only.
Most bosses don't move so I actually think venti is useful when it comes to that.
Tbh venti's burst scalling is not even that high and usually you just use EM venti and the Swirls are not very Great if its only one enemy
Nahida or furina please help
Its a hard decision for sure! I would personally go with Nahida for the dendro reactions, and get furina after that.
should I get raiden or Nahida?
I cannot choose
Would say nahida.
I will only get Venti if one day i decide to do spiral abyss lol
BEST VIDEO CAUSE I GOT FURINA AND HER WEPON IN 60 PULLS COMBINED 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nice!! Congrats!!
I'm still missing venti and furina
Nahida > Furina > Zhongli Or Raiden > Venti
My Opini 👍
1. furina
2. nahida
3. raiden
4. zhongli
5. venti
Hi guys I don't know what to do 😭
My only limited 5 start characters are C0 Zhongli, C3 Hu Tao, C0 Raiden Shogun and C1 Kaedehara Kazuha 😢
What are the next 5 stars characters I should get? I don't even have nahida, yelan, furina, kokomi... but I need C2/C3 Raiden Shogun right? And I should go with C2 Kaedehara Kazuha as well right?
I don't even know...
I don't even have a built non-pyro main dps yet...
Don't get constellations instead of new characters
Get nahida and furina they're coming back soon, they will help a lot
@@LaSignorasfav thanks!
@@LaSignorasfav I'll try to get c0 both of them
@@LaSignorasfav and then idk
My list is exactly the same. The only thing I differ on is C2 Raiden. If we're talking versatility, a C0 Zhongli is more versatile than a C2 Raiden. The constellations only make her stronger for players who already enjoy using her on field. Whereas other archons are more universal.
Ima roll for nahida on rerun
I dont agree.....Each of them is good in their own way, only Venti has problems because Kazuha exists
Yup, I did say their pros and cons :) but ultimately some are better than others
well so far only two of them are fkable. wonder if the cryo and pyro will be.
honestly just get nahida and kazuha and youre good to go
Sounds good.
Good video yet I hard disagree with some things. Zhongli is useless and is a damage loss especially now that furina exists. Raiden's c2 should technically be number 1 since it changes her play style and furina's c2 and nahida's both just make what they normally do better. So furina, nahida, raiden for c0 based on the c2 only raiden would be 1 but at c2 level for the characters it would be furina, nahida, and raiden. I've got c6 furina, c3 raiden, and c3 nahida. The other 2 don't even exist for my account.
Lmao dude Dendro enables Kuki and Thoma not Nahida, you can replace her with Dendro MC and still 36* easliy. Such misinformation.
For abyss, Zhongli and Venti are only great situationally. Raiden and Nahida are far more useful than them overall. Furina i'd say would be after Raiden and Nahida since she is mainly for her damage buffering.
Furina isnt archon
shes a human that has the rcon password. and becuase "RCON" sounds like "archon"........
Then who is? Ur mom?
She is considered one. Do you want me to explain why, dear?
I mean I agree she's just a mortal disguise as a archon