Why Engineers Thought Bees "CAN'T FLY" for 70 Years
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2023
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This video shows how bees fly. Why bees should NOT be able to fly. Bees don't fly like birds. How bees fly like we swim. Antoine Magnan originally calculated that bees could not fly because he presumed they fly like birds. But they do not. 
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Hey I bet you could recreate this using piezo electric device!!!
Bee aerodynamics sounds way more interesting now
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"According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee, of course, flies anyway because bees don't care what humans think is impossible."
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Oh black and yellow, yeah let’s shake things up a bit
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There were a lot of errors in the " laws ". The Wright brothers through scientifically studying the lift of wing shapes in their wind tunnel, discovered that current data available was wrong.
Well, nobody thought that bumble bees can't fly. In fact, everyone knew very well that they do fly, and therefore can fly. "Bumble bees can't fly" was just a humorous way of saying "we have no idea how they do it; our calculations say they shouldn't".
Yes, at the time science couldn't explain it. However, this played into a lot of propaganda kind of similar to all the backlash from non-scientists claiming the JWST disproved the Big Bang... science is wrong! etc... when nothing of the such happened.
I believe the conclusion that was originally reached was that the reason they could fly was because bumble bees weren't aware that they couldn't fly. Yes, that is pseudoscience BS, and Bumble Bees became a poster child for proof that faith enables you to overcome the impossible.
Examples of such that are used would be:
1) Having faith the size of a mustard seed would enable someone to move a mountain.
2) Having faith in God that he could resurrect someone that died.
So to bring the point home, they went even further by preaching don't listen to or learn science, because you won't be able to experience miracles like the bumble bee does and being able to fly....
UGH! Misinformation has been around to manipulate others for a long long time.
It would be funny to imagine scientists going “nope, I’ve never even seen a bee fly, and any bee you’ve seen flying was fake!”
Yes, but at the end of the nineties I recall how seriously a mix of philosophy and science students used to debate this. They would shout about how the bee contradicted reality, this philosophical claims to consistency were undone by this one example. It got kind of weird all the animosity in how seriously they over thought this stuff.
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It goes back much further than the 90s... teachers talked about in my high school years, in the mid 70s.
well said.
Birds are like Planes and Bees are like Helicopters 😅
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Not a bad analogy.
@@ArvinAshairplanes fly by generating lift. Helicopters fly because they are so mechanically ugly they are repelled by the earth.
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@@johnt.inscrutable1545Oh come on the Chinook wasn't _that_ ugly!
@@RobbieNguyen you must be a rotor wing person. All fixed wing folk understand the flight characteristics of ugly, without which no chopper would fly. Lol.
I’ve flown, and been a passenger in a number of odd fixed wings including the V-Tail (Dr. Killer) Bonanza, but the scariest flight I every had was one of the usual $100 hamburger weekend flights of 20 miles in a Robinson R-22. And the PIC was both a rotor wing and fixed wing (SEL, TEL, &. Seaplane) instructor. I think I left permanent marks in the lexan as I held on for dear life.
But each to his own. I’ve met rabid whirly bird pilots and rabid tail draggers among all other types. The one thing they all have in common is how they look at the sky and their craft.
"bees don't fly like birds, they fly like bees."
Hmm yes this floor here is made out of floor
Bird wings also generate lift during the upstroke. They only create thrust during the downstroke, but lift is more or less continuous.
according to all known laws of aviation
Interestingly, birds have been found to Also produce lift on their upstroke, it is just far less (though certain types of birds can generate more than others, for example hummingbirds rotate the shoulder far enough to get far more lift on the upstroke using the backs of their wings)
Hummingbirds actually fly like bees, funny enough. Their wings move back and forth rather than up and down.
"the bumblebee..."
Proceeds to show honey bee😂
Magnan: bumblebees are incapable of flight
The bumblebee flying back home: 🪂
It wasn't that people said that bees can't fly, it was that they said that bees shouldn't be able to fly.
Exactly!😅
Wait, who thought a bee that flies is incapable of flight while studying its lift generated during its......flight......for what? 70 years?
It's a really famous calculation done by a dude named Magnan about 90 years ago.
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It’s not like a bunch of scientists were standing around going “nope, I’ve never even seen a bee fly before, those bees you’ve seen flying are all fake!” It’s more that based on knowledge of physics at the time, bees were perplexing because if you didn’t know how they flapped their wings, you would think there is something wrong in your understanding of physics. And to be fair, now with high speed cameras we can clearly see how the wings flap, but you would t be able to see it just by looking at a bee fly.
@julianbell9161 yes, I wish there was a short on this......
High-speed photography was required.
“Bees can’t fly”
“Why”
“We’ll according to all known laws of Avia-“
So they saw a bee flying and came to the conclusion ‘no. This can’t be. Bees can’t fly’
Close, they saw a fat body with small wings and thought "these shouldn't fly!"
So to sum it up, they compared a bee-wing to a bird-wing rather than comparing it to another insect’s wing to work out their maths *pacepalm*
And also the air is thicker when you’re “bug sized” so they’re actually ‘paddling’ rather than just flying
Honestly imagine seeing a bee fly and just going “these things are incapable of flight.”
If you were to shrink a human down to where a Bumble bee is the size of a helicopter, the air would be so thick that it would have the consistency of honey. Their wings act more as paddles than they do wings.
Fascinating.
bumble bees wings do you up and down, and arent attached to the muscles that flap their wings, so then can still buzz even without their wings. their wings snap apart so violently that it causes a low pressure bubble of sorts that keeps them up.
One important thing was missed! The fact that fluid dynamics operate differently on the scale of bees than birds, something they didn’t really have the math for yet.
Birds does not only move their wings up and down,but in a circular motion like in swimming crawl
Bees can't fly!
Me: there's literally one right there flying
IMPOSSIBLE!
They never thought to confirm they can, by looking at bees? 😂
So bees basically does rapid uppercuts with their wings until the momentum accumulates enough to defy gravity...?
This is actually the leaked script for the first scene of bee movie 2
So bees fly like bees… thankyou very informative
DUH ! 😮😮😮
Im not the only one that caught that lol
So engineers thought that bees had somehow conquered the effects of gravity as they moved between flowers🤔
So....my man really went, "hmm yes, bees are birds" and thats why we thought bees shouldnt be able to fly?
Leading edge of bee wings has an attached vortex throughout its stroke cycle to create low pressure area for lift. If one studies the kinematics of bee wing motion, there is the possibility that the wing's mass also generates an inertial force vector that also aids in lift, by which the downward momentum of the wing mass at the endpoint of each cycle is absorbed aerodynamically thus allowing rectification of any upward component of inertial force, ie inertial propulsion or mechanical antigravity. Rough calcs of the inertial forces from the wing's mass do exceed the weight of the insects's body.
Bird lift is generated from the wing's airfoil just like a plane.
The flapping does not create lift, it creates thrust to move the bird forward.
If flapping was needed for lift, birds would not be able to glide, so vultures and pelicans would have to walk everywhere.
So basically its like a 2-stroke engine for flying creatures?
Lol, not a bad analogy actually.
Interesting, but do you know why moths fly with their legs far apart?
Viktor Grebenikov: "About that...."
Bees fly like hummingbirds, though the hummingbird's wing strokes are vertical, not horizontal. But like bees, their wings generate lift in both directions.
‘Bees fly like bees’ 🤌
You can mimic this treading water. Move your cupped hands back and forth rather than up and down.
If the bird is the airplane, the bumblebee is a helicopter..
"According to all known laws of aviation, there's no way a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to lift its fat little body off the ground.
The bee, of course, flies anyway - because bees don't care what humans think is impossible."
Both the humming bird and the honey bee can fly stationary. Does that mean humming birds also create lift on their forward and backstroke?
According to the laws of aerodynamics,the bumblebee cannot fly.However, seeing as the bumblebee is unaware of the laws of aerodynamics,it continues to fly!
Can we then explain how the flight path of a bees is not significantly affected by crosswinds?
one flies like a plane one flies like a helicopter
And also the fact that to a bee air density is like swimming through honey
A bee flying is much closer to swimming in the air than it is flying like a bird.
Bees can't fly,......... wait how's that bee flying
So it’s more like a hand fan pushing the air parallel with the angle of the wing
That's actually really cool.
As far as i remember those engineers created this calculation as a kind of Joke, never to be taken seriously.
You know those engineers too, have seen bees flying around.
Magnetic levitation 😮
Interestingly bees and birds are not the only ones with a unique form of flight. Bats and Pterosaurs also have unique forms of flight. Infact for decades scientists were trying to figure out how the largest flying creatures in history Pterosaurs did it, since there are no living specimens only the remains of their skeletons.
What did they think those bee shaped and bee coloured flying creatures were if not bees?
Bro I can’t count the videos and person experiences where bees literally just smash themselves into each other and walls, they fly but no one said they do it well
Not a single bumblebee was shown.
So bees don't fly; but they sort of swim on the air. Almost as if they are treading water. I've also heard that the flapping may also create a resonance that is locked in frequency to a void inside their bodies; raising their buoyancy in air. They can also detach their wings at the base so they can use the flapping to generate heat only, without lift.
Actually I hate to say but the problem is the person who actually did that didn't like a fixed-wing aircraft, but bumble bees do not fly with fixed wings.
Finally, known laws of aviation that allows bees to fly
Magnan's calculations have nothing to with "Why Engineers Thought Bees CAN'T FLY for 70 Years".
That particular story arose post WW2, when an algorithm for calculating aircraft performance was applied to bumblebees. This too into account weight, wingspan, and engine power.
And it really does turn out that if you assume a bumblebee is a prop-driven, fixed-wing aircraft with the engine power equal to a bumblebee's muscles - a bumblebee cannot, in fact, fly.
Initially says bumblbee, shows bees, talks about nothing but bees... ok
First sentence: bumblebee incapable of fly
Last sentence: thats how bumblebees fly
Wtf is wrong with you content creators doing ANYTHING to get ppl attention
are u dumb? the first sentence is what the scientists Magnans equations supposedly showed, throughout the short he proves why the original equation was wrong
Hummingbirds have a unique wing pattern.
Same for a hummingbird.
So bees are helicopters birds are planes ish
Were the engineers blind? They couldn't just watch a bumblebee fly?
As someone with aspergers I can say that we are really good at socializing.... With other people with autism.
Like... a helicopter?
That is a honey bee, not a bumblebee
So, bee wings function much like a helicopter? They send a force down. Hence, why they can hover?
Bees have VTOL on lol
Not one bumble bee, shown in this video
It functions more like a helicopter or drone and less like a plane, it's not exactly complex
Bees r nature's helicopter
It's not hard to see that you made a mistake if something that fly doesnt fly
And the air is thicker at their size
To bad in your short video clip that you don't have any pictures of a big fat bubble bee
Its because bees dont care what humans think is impossible.
according to all known laws of aviation,
According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way a bee should be able to fly. It’s wings are too small to get it’s fat little body off the ground. The bee, however, flies anyways, because bees do not care what humans think is impossible.
This explains why we don't have flying cars yet. Engineers aren't the brightest bunch.
You’re showing honey bees not bumble bees
Your voice sounds different. Hope all is okay.
Well thank God for evoluti ...wait a minute!
MMMMMMMMMM, how about hummingbirds? Their flapping motion is cettainly different from other birds.
Yes, they fly in a similar way to bees.
Assume a spherical bee....
The humble bumble
When delusionoids think they know better than reality. 😝
That’s not a bumblebee
they swim through water
I guess they didn't, well you know... Observe it for more than a second...
That's not a bumbee, that's a shellan mill bwo
If the evidence contradicts the theory, so much the worse for the evidence.
I've seen bumblebees fly
Not a bumblebee.
Save the bees
I've had Christian teachers tell me that according to Aerodynamics, Bumblebees shouldn't be able to fly. And this was in Science class.
That's what this video is about...
Bees don’t fly like birds the fly like bees what 😂 nah really I thought. Bees fly like gorillas
Those are honey bees not bumble bees in your videos.
That was not a bumble bee!
It's a bee, grow up
Ornithopter
My surname is Carder and that is a type of Bee and my mothers name is Deborah which is Hebrew for Bee 🐝 😅