The book is extremely different from the film, but they're both masterpieces. I personally think the ideal experience is seeing this film, reading the novel, reading Doctor Sleep, and then watching Doctor Sleep. The Doctor Sleep film is certainly worth watching and it does a great job of combining the very different universes of Kubrick and King
I did it in almost that order, watched The Shining, then read the book (and watched the mini series which follows the book rather well). Then watched Doctor Sleep, read THAT book, and rewatched Doctor Sleep again. I really like what Flanagan managed to do with that film.
Good advice actually. _Doctor Sleep_ the movie bombed, but it's actually not that bad IMO. In fact I kind of liked it. I have not read the book. Oddly, Stephen King loved _Doctor Sleep_ and it bombed, but he famously hated _The Shining_ yet it has remained one of the top horror movies of all time for over 40 years. Many of the changes Kubrick made for _The Shining_ I think were necessary, such as making the hedges a maze instead of animals that come to life. It made sense that Danny would be an expert in that maze because he and his mother played in it almost every day while jack was working on his writing... (ahem!). I thought it was a good idea in _Doctor Sleep_ to have the Overlook Hotel get blown up by the boiler since that was the original fate of the hotel in the book "The Shining". Nice way to acknowledge it. That ending with the photograph was a last minute addition Kubrick came up with. I'm not sure if it has ever been explained.
The thing about this movie is that there’s not always a clear answer to everything and some things are left to interpretation. Some events like room 237 can’t always be concluded with it being ghosts. Sometimes it can be seen as Jack hallucinating, the movie hints at a lot of darker topics that could answer some of the phenomenons (the bear costume scene), and Stanley Kubrick is known to be very cryptic and leave hidden messages and themes in his movies. Stephen King actually hates this movie because it’s nothing like the book. Kubrick changed just about everything except the characters names.
The book is amazing for sure though! Some of the changes, like adding the twins and the maze (instead of some weird sentient topiary animals), were great, but Dick Hallorann getting killed off as soon as he turns up, and skipping the whole aspect of the 'creeping' boiler are kinda irritating. Still a 9.5/10 movie imo
@@alfielee2989 it's strongly implied through the movie that Jack has been a very unpleasant guy for longer than the duration of the story, the longer cut of the film it's shown he had dislocated Danny's shoulder 5 months before the movie start, and Jack admits to having done that 3 years ago and that he'd been sober less time than his wife thought. We're not seeing a slightly irritable guy going completely insane, we're seeing an already violent and abusive guy reaching the final stage of his abuse. maybe the hotel pushed him over the edge, or maybe all the visions are in their heads, but the way he plays his interactions with his wife and kid from the start show a guy who does not like his family at all. His reactions to wendy and her overall demeanour is a very accurate portrayal of a narcissist and his abused and essentially broken wife. seperately, funnily enough, all the people in the photograph at the end were the billionaires and politicians who were involved in the dollar gold standard being got rid of, and the subsequent economic crash (no joke). having Jack appear among them specifically i think was a Kubrick joke saying this dude here who just tried to axe his family is the same as these people, with the same distorted values...while also hinting at reincarnation...or whatever the hell it means within the story 😅
Top 5 Stephen King adaptations.. 1.) The Shawshank Redemption (10/10) 2.) The Green Mile (9.75/10) 3.) Stand By Me (9.5/10) 4.) The Shining (9.25/10) 5.) Misery (9/10)
You are the only reactor I have seen who notice de the "sell my soul for a glass of beer" line. It may be the most important line in a movie where every line of dialogue is crucial.
It kills me when people get mad at Wendy for "revealing her location" at the end, when Danny leaves the maze. Like, Wendy screaming isn't going to somehow tell Jack how to get out of the maze.
I would definitely recommend Doctor Sleep, the extended edition. I went into it expecting it to suck but I honestly really like it, I was surprised by how good it was. The extended edition has alot more to it, its like a full half hour longer if i remember correctly, and I think its alot better than the theatrical cut.
Now that you've reacted to The Shining, Primate, you MUST react to The Exorcist, which is pretty darned terrifying. It has reduced some reactors to tears, they were so frightened. 😎
Glad to see another rare reactor sympathizing with the Wendy character. Shelley Duvall was so perfectly cast as the type of woman that people shit on that it transfers to real life. She is sweet, caring, vulnerable, helpless, and tries to take up for Jack and give him the benefit of the doubt, even with his past and the verbal abuse he hurls at her. Despite all this, people still often dislike her immensely. Kubrick was a genius.
And despite Wendy's fears of the hotel , as well as running into an axe-crazy Jack, all she could think of is finding her son and getting the hell out of there.
@@jonathonsmith8871 I read the book, and I agree that it’s a much different character, and story for that matter. Either Kubrick is a bad director, or perhaps out of sheer arrogance just decided he didn’t care for the book version of Wendy in favor of his own. I assume the latter. Personally, I think of them as two separate works, and maybe Kubrick’s version is just a plagiarism of King being used to drive some ambiguous narrative that the director was toying with at the time. Either way, I find both the film and the book entertaining, so it really doesn’t matter to me in the end. I completely understand why King hates the movie, I just disagree with him. Several of King’s movie adaptations stray miles away from the source material, but this one gets all the hate for some reason. Kubrick seemed like a person that could rub folks the wrong way, and King maybe just disliked him immensely, or maybe The Shining was one of King’s favorite works, and the straying just offended him more with that particular story. I like both, and favor the movie. Subjectivity is what makes art great, one man’s trash…. and all that.
@stevesheroan4131 I personally think why he hates The Shining mostly is because Jack was basically Stephen King, so in the book we were meant to sympathize with Jack, but in the Movie Jack is just... well, he's Jack lol
Jack Nicholson is awesome as Jack Torrance; his acting and quotes made this movie eternal and memorable. I recommend you "Misery" another book adaptation of Stephen King and one of my favorite thriller movies of all time. And this one may not be very memorable or known, but its amazing its called "Thesis" a spanish suspense movie, kinda like 8mm. It's worth watchable
Interesting fact: the director told everyone on set to kinda be rude to the actress who played wendy during the shoot. People would have to ignore her and just give her no attention and not be kind. It was a way to get a true genuine reaction out of her to feel like everyone was turning on her and had nowhere to go. Its messed up but damn it worked. She seriously looks so distraught.
I thought Doctor Sleep was miserable. The girl was the best actor in it. Rose the Hat was scary until the ending. She became a caricature of a villain.
The scene with the bear and Lloyd I think it was, is possibly a representation of sexual abuse against Danny. Danny is often represented by teddy bears and Lloyd (or it may have been the previous caretaker) is a representation of Jack. The bear is performing… questionable acts on Lloyd and that hints at some not great stuff, which is ofc the point
14:28 what if when we see Danny walking into room 237, it’s really just from Jack’s dream? And right after Danny walked into room 237 in the dream, Jack killed him and that’s why he started screaming right after the cut-off?
I wouldn’t seem like it, but this is one of the most rewatchable movies ever. You see and notice different things every time you watch. And there’s such a rhythm to the pacing of the film, that if I ever start watching (even though I’ve seen it a thousand times at this point) I just get sucked in and have to finish the whole thing. Doesn’t matter what scene I start on.
@@ItsAPrimatee in case you don't know what the ending means remember when Delbert Grady talks to jack in the bathroom saying you've always been the caretaker well it turns out to be true hence the picture July 4th 1921
@@ItsAPrimateeThe woman in room 237 was named Lorraine Massey. She ended herself with two different kinds of bottles,allegedly. Her husband was the last one to see her. It was ruled as accidental to avoid scandal.
The actual maze used was relatively small build in an indoor set in England. It’s actually so small it would be impossible to get lost for long. You can find plans for it on the net. Articles saying Kubrick got lost in it are probably false. Hedges were moved to make different shots (there are actually 5 constructions of the maze rebuilt using parts moved from previous constructions ) and most of it was shot in the Summer. The Snow is actually a kind of styrofoam. Kubrick also used a special lens and shot it low using a upward angle to make the walls look much higher then they were. In reality they were only 5 to 6 feet high.
I know shelley duvall was getting wrecked on set and thats a shame. But its still one my favorite performances. The display of terror, but also fighting back as hard as she can. Love it.
I like that there's no explanation for how or why Jack is in the photo at the end. The fact that so many people are still analyzing this movie today says a lot for its power.
Look up "The Wendy Theory" on RUclips. It's mind blowing! There's a bunch of little "errors" in continuity in the movie where a piece of furniture or a light switch will be in one shot of a scene, but not in the next shot of the same scene! Kubrick was a fanatic about details...so why these odd breaks? Check it out and see. It makes the story sooo much deeper.
"All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" was famously spoofed in the Simpsons a couple times. The reaction to the ending was priceless. LOL Jack is in a lot of classic stuff. I think he goes back to the 50s..at the very least the 60s. Chinatown and One flew over the Cuckoos Nest are two movies prior to the shining that are classics of his.
In the Uncut version of the movie there's a scene near the beginning that explains that in the Past Jack had dislocated Danny's shoulder while drunk. I actually prefer the uncut version, because the extra scenes add a lot of context to some things.
He's always been the caretaker! Also supposedly Jack has the shining to, "some people have it and don't know it." It brings out their hidden but true persona. The hotel is the fucked up part, not the ghosts itself, they're just trapped. The sequel shows grown Danny returning to confront all the past traumas
Dr. Sleep is the story of adult Danny and a redemption of Dick Halloran. Mr. Halloran was not supposed to die like that, and fans like me were big mad at that change in the story back in 1980. I think I like Dr. Sleep even more than this movie. If I recall, the lady in 237 was the mistress of a mob boss who was supposed to meet her and never showed up. She took her life in the tub and has been haunting the room ever since.
I saw this in the cinema with my Dad a couple years back and we both jumped every time the day of the week pops up. Says a lot about how amazingly Kubrick gets you creeped out!
Jack has become part of the history of the hotel. In a sense he has “always been there” because he will always be here. The ending suggests reincarnation, or perhaps simply that there is a pattern of repeated events, grisly murders, and all other manner of ungodliness.
I'm so glad you said you'll react to Doctor Sleep!! Mike Flanagan had a HUGE undertaking with that one, with both fans of the film and Stephen King (who did NOT like the film) watching. He totally pulls it off imo. And I think you'll like seeing some of the cast from The Haunting of Hill House in Doctor Sleep, too!
Most of the people in Stephen Kings stories have the Shining to an extent. They're all in a shared universe as well. The kids from IT for example have the Shining and the town of Derry is their Overlook Hotel. Another example is John Coffee from The Green Mile has the Shining. An example of shared universes is Shawshank prison from The Shawshank Redemption is mentioned in IT. There's a bunch ion connections in the books and easter eggs in the films. If you haven't read any of his books it's hard to make connections between films if you don't know its source is from King. But reading the novels, its always fun to recognize a character or a place from another book.
I remember Scatman Crothers ( the Black man) from an episode of Sanford and Son, and Silver Streak with Richard Pryor and Gene Wilder. VERY funny movie. Plus he was the voice of the character JAZZ, from the 80s Transformers cartoon. He was awesome! 🙏🏾👍🏽
This film has pretty much every essential Kubrick'ism. The use of color, lighting, mirrors, unusual camera placement. Then of course there was his insistence on shooting the staircase scene 127 times until Shelley Duvall was an actual emotional wreck, so it would be more realistic.
The music throwing you off is one of the biggest things that make The Shinning for me. It's constantly so unsettling without needing to show you anything unsettling, but you feel it, always
Good catch on the music! The film's editing is specifically structured around a lot of the music as a way to throw you off and make the pacing feel more unpredictable. Like oftentimes the music will hit before the scary thing is shown, or sometimes the music will stay constant to make things feel uncanny. This movie also tends to focus on character's reaction TO the scary thing first
Excellent reaction as always, my friend! As long as we're riding the Jack Nicholson train, I would recommend adding his Oscar winning performance in 'One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest' to your poll.
To me it seems like when jack is leaning over the model of the maze and his family is actually in the maze simultaneously that it is representing that they are trapped in his game and he already has plotted the game. Hence why he is symbolically standing over them and smiling. I could be wrong though?
The hotel was feeding off Danny's power. The longer it went on, the more powerful it became, no longer pictures in a book. So, it was a build up that lead to them being able to let him out of the storage room. Then at end, they were powerful enough to actually manifest to real life, when Wendy saw it all. The house was at peak power.
Halloran is the hero (along with danny), though it is jarring, and horrifying how suddenly he's murdered. He sacrificed himself to provide them with a way out of there. Also, eerie how we start hearing the chanting after he's killed. Like a ritual is beginning now that the old racist hotel has a sacrifice.
Some kinda good news that the only other Jack Nicholson film you've seen is The Departed. Because you still have Five Easy Pieces, '89s Batman, Chinatown, his Oscar-winning performance in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, and his breakout role in Easy Rider
Mr. Halloran had shining so he foresaw the outcome but went anyhow. In other words, he intentionally sacrificed himself so Danny could escape. He served as the scapegoat and the spot where it happened was a sacrificial alter (look at the tiles).
At the beginning the manager who hires Jack states that the hotel was built on an Indian burial ground! I’ve never seen the sequel but read it was about the adult Danny!
There's controversy about who let Jack out of the pantry. I think Danny did it. He was always watching Road Runner outsmart Coyote in the cartoons... and staring intently. When Jack has the ax and Danny hides in the metal food cart in the hallway, he deliberately jumps out and lets Jack see him - to give chase... then he lures him into the hedge maze - to his death. Danny isn't given enough credit for outwitting Jack.
Now you must watch the sequel to this, Doctor Sleep. Please watch the Director's Cut! Doctor Sleep is one of my favorite horror movies of all time and does a great job of expanding on the lore of the 'shining' within the Stephen King universe.
Doctor Sleep is my favourite horror movie of the past 10 years, by far! I absolutely adore it and the story really goes in an interesting direction. Stephen King wrote the book, and the film acts as a sequel to both his original novel and Stanley Kubrick's movie, which was Kubrick's interpretation/vision (King famously hated it). Both are incredible.
I love this movie but I agree with Stephen King that Nicholson should have played it straight at the start of the movie to show how drastically the overlook is changing him/bringing out a hidden rage. Then when you find out about him injuring Danny in New Jersey it’s more shocking since he would’ve seemed so normal in the beginning. Still great acting from Jack though.
The book is a lot better with the internal conflict because it gives a lot of internal dialogue of everyone's thoughts and with Jack, you get to hear him struggle against the influence of the hotel in his head, trying to fight it and recognize what's really happening, then we slowly start to see how the hotel is manipulating his thoughts until it completely takes him. It's definitely a much quicker process in the movie, and the fact that we don't have his internal dialogue to understand what's happening actually makes it more eerie rather than confusing
Kubrik liked to disorient the audience and for that matter, he played a lot with the hotel´s distribution. It has impossible architectures. For example: if you pay attention to the scene where Jack Torrance crosses the corridor and goes into the director's office, there's a window behind the desk. You can see outside through it. But that window shouldn't be there; That window should face the corridor and not the outside, it's an impossible window. Something similar happens with the men's restroom in the hotel bar. The door to the washroom is to the left of the bar, but when they cross it, they turn right twice; therefore they should appear behind the bar itself, but they do not. The bar counter and the washroom share the same physical space, which is impossible. He also likes to switch floors the different rooms of the hotel at times. At the beginning of the film we can see that the kitchen (I think it's the kitchen) is on the first floor, but later the kitchen can be glimpsed through one of the doors in the hallway on the second floor when Danny is riding his tricycle. There's a fantastic documentary about The Shining called "Room 237". You should watch it!
The entire "All work and no play..."-sequence is, in my honest opinion, one of the greatest scenes ever filmed. And, believe it or not, but almost all the music heard in this movie wasnt even specifically made for it: Stanley Kubrick used a lot of modern classical compositions from the previous decades for the soundtrack. The kind of creepy, experimental music which has inspired Scores written for Horror-Movies to this day. As for Stanley Kubrick's other movies, I can heartedly recommend "Full Metal Jacket", "Doctor Strangelove" and "2001: A Space Odyssey": A War Movie, a Black Comedy and a Science Fiction-Film, each one of the best of their respective genres.
I am so happy to see your reaction. This is probably my all time favorite horror/Kubrick flick. The Simpsons treehouse of horror parody is worth checking out.
1. Joe Turkel/Lloyd plays Tyrell in the original Bladerunner (Hint Hint) 2. "Here's Johnny" was adlib by Nickelson. 3. It took 117 takes for Jack to chop through the door. He used his voluuntery firefighting skills to get through all the takes. 4. The reason King didn't like this adaptation of the movie is because he didn't like the changes Kubrick made. This thing was remade just for King and although the remake was more inline with the book IMVHO it wasn't as good as this one. 5. Danny didn't know the girls were dead (because of his shine he might have known though) 6. Shelly Duvall said making this movie was the worst experience in her life. She was harassed on and off screen. 7. GOOF: They would have taken that meat out of the freezer during winter over. Even frozen it would go past expiration date. 8. The real villain is the hotel itself. 9. A Nickelson movie that snagged all 5 of the top Oscars (including best actor) is One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest". 10. Watch Dr. Sleep. Danny is an adult and many of the loose ends well be cleared up.
My favorite scene was jack trying get the bat from Wendy on the stairs. His acting was so funny and scary good 😂😂. Also I’m happy to see you enjoying the movie bc I used to throw this on almost all the time back in high school.
Hahaha when Wendy was on the radio and kept saying “over” I couldn’t help but think of Family Guy when Brian and Stewie were going to renovate that house!
Nicholson had been a known quantity for quite a while already before The Shining came along. Check out, in particular, Chinatown and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Easy Rider, The King of Marvin Gardens, too. One of his very first onscreen appearances was a bit part in the original, ultra-low budget, black and white, non-musical Little Shop of Horrors as the masochistic dental patient (the role taken by Bill Murray in the 1986 musical remake).
In terms of pure horror this movie makes Jaws feel tame in comparison,seriously though the suspension is second to absolutely none,as far as I'm aware the only equal it has in pure suspension and horror is The Exorcist
I love older horror/comedy movies because they start slowly but the buildups at the end are epic. Everybody seems to have ADD these days and wants instant gratification so movies have to be funny or scary in the very first minute to get the audience’s attention but then there’s no buildup. Doctor Strangelove and Some Like It Hot are good examples of classic comedies that have practically no jokes in the first half hour but by the end you’re in tears from laughing so hard. It was a real art form.
*The Shining* is definitely one of the *best* horror movies ever made! Although it is *very* different from Stephen King's novel. Here are some notable differences: - In the novel, it is way more apparent that the Overlook Hotel is *possessing* Jack, manipulating him into hating his family and become an alcoholic again. - Jack is more of a *victim* in the novel. There is a scene in the novel where Jack is about to kill Danny, but stops, whispering "Run" to Danny, trying to fight against the powers of the hotel, before the Overlook Hotel takes over again. - Dick Halloran *survives* in the novel, because Jack only knocked him unconscious in that one, because Jack's weapon in the weapon is a Roque-Bat, instead of an axe. - Wendy is a way more *dominant* character in the novel, instead of being more submissive. - The line "Here's Johnny!" *isn't* in the novel, but was instead *improvised* by Jack Nicholson. - Danny's imaginary friend, Tony, is revealed to be an *older* version of Danny, and Danny physically sees Tony at some points.
There's a scene early in the movie before they get to the hotel where Danny freaks out and Wendy calls a doctor, then tells the doctor about Jack "accidently" dislocating Danny's shoulder. Was that not in this cut of the movie?
If you wanna see a couple of Jack Nicholson's interesting roles, which few people ever talk about, see "Easy Rider" and "The Witches of Eastwick." If you wanna see a very-different role for Shelly Duvall, I'd recommend finding the live-action musical she co-starred in with Robin Williams: "Popeye." Someone has suggested that there are two storylines in the film, one the "real" caretaking experience, and the parallel one, where Jack is wearing a burgundy jacket, slowly going crazy. The theory works, and makes many of the events more reasonable. Grady also commented at some point that Jack had "always been the caretaker." The way Kubrick treated Duvall during the making of the film probably wouldn't fly today.
The shining is the same light that IT hypnotizes the kids with, also it’s the same ability the kid has in the dark tower, and the same shit going on in pet semetary, all stephen king movies/books are in the same universe and connect to each other
The book is extremely different from the film, but they're both masterpieces. I personally think the ideal experience is seeing this film, reading the novel, reading Doctor Sleep, and then watching Doctor Sleep. The Doctor Sleep film is certainly worth watching and it does a great job of combining the very different universes of Kubrick and King
agree to disagree. the book sucks. doctor sleep sucks. so does that film. it all sucks. but the shining is my favourite movie.
I did it in almost that order, watched The Shining, then read the book (and watched the mini series which follows the book rather well). Then watched Doctor Sleep, read THAT book, and rewatched Doctor Sleep again. I really like what Flanagan managed to do with that film.
Stephen King's The Shining with Steven Weber is SO much better than this version.
Good advice actually. _Doctor Sleep_ the movie bombed, but it's actually not that bad IMO. In fact I kind of liked it. I have not read the book. Oddly, Stephen King loved _Doctor Sleep_ and it bombed, but he famously hated _The Shining_ yet it has remained one of the top horror movies of all time for over 40 years. Many of the changes Kubrick made for _The Shining_ I think were necessary, such as making the hedges a maze instead of animals that come to life. It made sense that Danny would be an expert in that maze because he and his mother played in it almost every day while jack was working on his writing... (ahem!). I thought it was a good idea in _Doctor Sleep_ to have the Overlook Hotel get blown up by the boiler since that was the original fate of the hotel in the book "The Shining". Nice way to acknowledge it. That ending with the photograph was a last minute addition Kubrick came up with. I'm not sure if it has ever been explained.
@@unapologeticalimperfection223 No.
The thing about this movie is that there’s not always a clear answer to everything and some things are left to interpretation. Some events like room 237 can’t always be concluded with it being ghosts. Sometimes it can be seen as Jack hallucinating, the movie hints at a lot of darker topics that could answer some of the phenomenons (the bear costume scene), and Stanley Kubrick is known to be very cryptic and leave hidden messages and themes in his movies. Stephen King actually hates this movie because it’s nothing like the book. Kubrick changed just about everything except the characters names.
The book is amazing for sure though! Some of the changes, like adding the twins and the maze (instead of some weird sentient topiary animals), were great, but Dick Hallorann getting killed off as soon as he turns up, and skipping the whole aspect of the 'creeping' boiler are kinda irritating. Still a 9.5/10 movie imo
Oh and Jack goes crazy far more gradually in the book, but tbf Kubrick only had 2 hours so you cant blame him for moving it on faster
@@alfielee2989 damn, I just realised it must be 25 years since I read the book... can't even remember the differences. Might have to reread it.
@@alfielee2989 it's strongly implied through the movie that Jack has been a very unpleasant guy for longer than the duration of the story, the longer cut of the film it's shown he had dislocated Danny's shoulder 5 months before the movie start, and Jack admits to having done that 3 years ago and that he'd been sober less time than his wife thought. We're not seeing a slightly irritable guy going completely insane, we're seeing an already violent and abusive guy reaching the final stage of his abuse. maybe the hotel pushed him over the edge, or maybe all the visions are in their heads, but the way he plays his interactions with his wife and kid from the start show a guy who does not like his family at all. His reactions to wendy and her overall demeanour is a very accurate portrayal of a narcissist and his abused and essentially broken wife.
seperately, funnily enough, all the people in the photograph at the end were the billionaires and politicians who were involved in the dollar gold standard being got rid of, and the subsequent economic crash (no joke). having Jack appear among them specifically i think was a Kubrick joke saying this dude here who just tried to axe his family is the same as these people, with the same distorted values...while also hinting at reincarnation...or whatever the hell it means within the story 😅
Top 5 Stephen King adaptations..
1.) The Shawshank Redemption (10/10)
2.) The Green Mile (9.75/10)
3.) Stand By Me (9.5/10)
4.) The Shining (9.25/10)
5.) Misery (9/10)
You are the only reactor I have seen who notice de the "sell my soul for a glass of beer" line. It may be the most important line in a movie where every line of dialogue is crucial.
Exactly! That he caught it was so impressive!
It kills me when people get mad at Wendy for "revealing her location" at the end, when Danny leaves the maze. Like, Wendy screaming isn't going to somehow tell Jack how to get out of the maze.
I would definitely recommend Doctor Sleep, the extended edition. I went into it expecting it to suck but I honestly really like it, I was surprised by how good it was. The extended edition has alot more to it, its like a full half hour longer if i remember correctly, and I think its alot better than the theatrical cut.
You should really watch the 1989 Batman movie. Jack Nicholson was perfectly cast as the Joker after everyone saw him in this movie
Now that you've reacted to The Shining, Primate, you MUST react to The Exorcist, which is pretty darned terrifying. It has reduced some reactors to tears, they were so frightened. 😎
It’s trash
@@dagreatestwonder23 I agree.. I went in with so much expectation.. and it was trash
Good horror movie. I had no business watching it at 10 and LAUGHING. Lowkey cannot rewatch it anymore tho lol
Careful Primate. This movie can open doors bruh
@@aronorenda Be quiet.
Glad to see another rare reactor sympathizing with the Wendy character. Shelley Duvall was so perfectly cast as the type of woman that people shit on that it transfers to real life. She is sweet, caring, vulnerable, helpless, and tries to take up for Jack and give him the benefit of the doubt, even with his past and the verbal abuse he hurls at her. Despite all this, people still often dislike her immensely. Kubrick was a genius.
And despite Wendy's fears of the hotel , as well as running into an axe-crazy Jack, all she could think of is finding her son and getting the hell out of there.
If you read the book by Stephen king you’d know that Kubrick did an awful job portraying Wendy in the movie
@@jonathonsmith8871 I read the book, and I agree that it’s a much different character, and story for that matter. Either Kubrick is a bad director, or perhaps out of sheer arrogance just decided he didn’t care for the book version of Wendy in favor of his own. I assume the latter. Personally, I think of them as two separate works, and maybe Kubrick’s version is just a plagiarism of King being used to drive some ambiguous narrative that the director was toying with at the time. Either way, I find both the film and the book entertaining, so it really doesn’t matter to me in the end. I completely understand why King hates the movie, I just disagree with him. Several of King’s movie adaptations stray miles away from the source material, but this one gets all the hate for some reason. Kubrick seemed like a person that could rub folks the wrong way, and King maybe just disliked him immensely, or maybe The Shining was one of King’s favorite works, and the straying just offended him more with that particular story. I like both, and favor the movie. Subjectivity is what makes art great, one man’s trash…. and all that.
@stevesheroan4131 I personally think why he hates The Shining mostly is because Jack was basically Stephen King, so in the book we were meant to sympathize with Jack, but in the Movie Jack is just... well, he's Jack lol
Jack Nicholson is awesome as Jack Torrance; his acting and quotes made this movie eternal and memorable.
I recommend you "Misery" another book adaptation of Stephen King and one of my favorite thriller movies of all time.
And this one may not be very memorable or known, but its amazing its called "Thesis" a spanish suspense movie, kinda like 8mm. It's worth watchable
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Misery. Top 5 Stephen King adaptations.
Also One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest. Not only is jack great but you get young Danny Devito, Christopher Lloyd and Brad Dourif.
@@dontbstingy3587 Plus Vincent Schiavelli (the Subway Ghost in _Ghost)_ and Scatman Crothers (Dick Hallorann in this film).
Interesting fact: the director told everyone on set to kinda be rude to the actress who played wendy during the shoot. People would have to ignore her and just give her no attention and not be kind. It was a way to get a true genuine reaction out of her to feel like everyone was turning on her and had nowhere to go. Its messed up but damn it worked. She seriously looks so distraught.
Thats messed up by them. They were very harsh towards her
And to think she was nominated for a Razzie for worst actress. Glad she's getting the credit she properly deserves today, from most people anyway.
T ypical bS revolving Arne this film. Untrue.
The sequel is so good. It takes the lore and the myth behind the shining to a whole different level, same with Danny's story. Great reaction!
I thought Doctor Sleep was miserable. The girl was the best actor in it. Rose the Hat was scary until the ending. She became a caricature of a villain.
@@MontgomeryWenis you have bad taste and are probably not fun at parties. Enjoy your two likes on your opinion, ill enjoy my 23.
@@MontgomeryWenis YOU write a sequel then Monty.
@@davidpalmer7175 I'm sure the book is more than thrilling. But I was clearly referring to the movie.
@@MontgomeryWenis That, too. I think Doctor Sleep(movie version) was a great sequel to The Shining(movie version).
The scene with the bear and Lloyd I think it was, is possibly a representation of sexual abuse against Danny. Danny is often represented by teddy bears and Lloyd (or it may have been the previous caretaker) is a representation of Jack. The bear is performing… questionable acts on Lloyd and that hints at some not great stuff, which is ofc the point
14:28 what if when we see Danny walking into room 237, it’s really just from Jack’s dream? And right after Danny walked into room 237 in the dream, Jack killed him and that’s why he started screaming right after the cut-off?
I wouldn’t seem like it, but this is one of the most rewatchable movies ever. You see and notice different things every time you watch.
And there’s such a rhythm to the pacing of the film, that if I ever start watching (even though I’ve seen it a thousand times at this point) I just get sucked in and have to finish the whole thing. Doesn’t matter what scene I start on.
I plan to rewatch it for sure
@@ItsAPrimatee in case you don't know what the ending means remember when Delbert Grady talks to jack in the bathroom saying you've always been the caretaker well it turns out to be true hence the picture July 4th 1921
Even I, someone who's seen The Shining I don't know how many times, I STILL find little details I never noticed before.
@@ItsAPrimateeThe woman in room 237 was named Lorraine Massey. She ended herself with two different kinds of bottles,allegedly. Her husband was the last one to see her. It was ruled as accidental to avoid scandal.
(Not-so-)Fun fact: The actors actually got lost in the maze, making their fear all the more genuine. Crew members had to go in to find them.
The actual maze used was relatively small build in an indoor set in England. It’s actually so small it would be impossible to get lost for long. You can find plans for it on the net. Articles saying Kubrick got lost in it are probably false. Hedges were moved to make different shots (there are actually 5 constructions of the maze rebuilt using parts moved from previous constructions ) and most of it was shot in the Summer. The Snow is actually a kind of styrofoam. Kubrick also used a special lens and shot it low using a upward angle to make the walls look much higher then they were. In reality they were only 5 to 6 feet high.
Another bit of misinformation courtesy of JonDoe 42069.
If he loved this, then ya boi's in for a treat with "Doctor Sleep". 😊
Also can't leave a third comment, so 27:57 had me dying. 🤣
I know shelley duvall was getting wrecked on set and thats a shame. But its still one my favorite performances. The display of terror, but also fighting back as hard as she can. Love it.
At least she got to work with Robin Williams on Popeye after.
I like that there's no explanation for how or why Jack is in the photo at the end. The fact that so many people are still analyzing this movie today says a lot for its power.
Look up "The Wendy Theory" on RUclips.
It's mind blowing!
There's a bunch of little "errors" in continuity in the movie where a piece of furniture or a light switch will be in one shot of a scene, but not in the next shot of the same scene!
Kubrick was a fanatic about details...so why these odd breaks?
Check it out and see. It makes the story sooo much deeper.
You should check out the sequel "Doctor Sleep" preferably the director's cut
"All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" was famously spoofed in the Simpsons a couple times.
The reaction to the ending was priceless. LOL
Jack is in a lot of classic stuff. I think he goes back to the 50s..at the very least the 60s. Chinatown and One flew over the Cuckoos Nest are two movies prior to the shining that are classics of his.
Doctor Sleep features Danny grown up, still struggling and facing his traumas from this film. It’s really great.
In the Uncut version of the movie there's a scene near the beginning that explains that in the Past Jack had dislocated Danny's shoulder while drunk. I actually prefer the uncut version, because the extra scenes add a lot of context to some things.
Same, I heavily prefer the uncut version.
This was a reaction video not a “version” of the film lol. 9/10 of the total film was cut for this, give me a break.
He's always been the caretaker!
Also supposedly Jack has the shining to, "some people have it and don't know it." It brings out their hidden but true persona. The hotel is the fucked up part, not the ghosts itself, they're just trapped. The sequel shows grown Danny returning to confront all the past traumas
A little spoilery but ok
Dr. Sleep is the story of adult Danny and a redemption of Dick Halloran. Mr. Halloran was not supposed to die like that, and fans like me were big mad at that change in the story back in 1980. I think I like Dr. Sleep even more than this movie. If I recall, the lady in 237 was the mistress of a mob boss who was supposed to meet her and never showed up. She took her life in the tub and has been haunting the room ever since.
Tony is Danny from the future communicating with younger Danny by Shining. He is trying to warn Danny about what happens to him at the hotel.
I saw this in the cinema with my Dad a couple years back and we both jumped every time the day of the week pops up. Says a lot about how amazingly Kubrick gets you creeped out!
Jack has become part of the history of the hotel. In a sense he has “always been there” because he will always be here. The ending suggests reincarnation, or perhaps simply that there is a pattern of repeated events, grisly murders, and all other manner of ungodliness.
when you do get to Dr Sleep definitely watch the extended cut
The soundtrack and sound design in this movie is INCREDIBLE. I LOVE IT!!!
I'm so glad you said you'll react to Doctor Sleep!! Mike Flanagan had a HUGE undertaking with that one, with both fans of the film and Stephen King (who did NOT like the film) watching. He totally pulls it off imo. And I think you'll like seeing some of the cast from The Haunting of Hill House in Doctor Sleep, too!
Most of the people in Stephen Kings stories have the Shining to an extent. They're all in a shared universe as well. The kids from IT for example have the Shining and the town of Derry is their Overlook Hotel. Another example is John Coffee from The Green Mile has the Shining. An example of shared universes is Shawshank prison from The Shawshank Redemption is mentioned in IT. There's a bunch ion connections in the books and easter eggs in the films. If you haven't read any of his books it's hard to make connections between films if you don't know its source is from King. But reading the novels, its always fun to recognize a character or a place from another book.
I remember Scatman Crothers ( the Black man) from an episode of Sanford and Son, and Silver Streak with Richard Pryor and Gene Wilder. VERY funny movie. Plus he was the voice of the character JAZZ, from the 80s Transformers cartoon. He was awesome! 🙏🏾👍🏽
Tony is someone who tells him the future. You have to read the book to know more about Tony.
Danny's full name is Daniel Anthony Torrence - Tony is his alter-ego/future self... a facet of the "shining".
This film has pretty much every essential Kubrick'ism. The use of color, lighting, mirrors, unusual camera placement. Then of course there was his insistence on shooting the staircase scene 127 times until Shelley Duvall was an actual emotional wreck, so it would be more realistic.
Lloyd is the spirit of Jack’s father I think, after seeing Doctor Sleep.
One of my favorite horror movies, so excited to watch this!!
The music throwing you off is one of the biggest things that make The Shinning for me. It's constantly so unsettling without needing to show you anything unsettling, but you feel it, always
Good catch on the music! The film's editing is specifically structured around a lot of the music as a way to throw you off and make the pacing feel more unpredictable. Like oftentimes the music will hit before the scary thing is shown, or sometimes the music will stay constant to make things feel uncanny. This movie also tends to focus on character's reaction TO the scary thing first
Kubrick is the one director who could make a terrifying scene with three kids and a tricycle.
Excellent reaction as always, my friend!
As long as we're riding the Jack Nicholson train, I would recommend adding his Oscar winning performance in 'One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest' to your poll.
I like your idea that when Jack says he'll sell his soul for a drink, the bartender appears and takes him up on his offer.
I remember seeing this as a kid, spooked me our. Still does. Jack was amazing. Scary with NO mask.
don't forget the sequel; Doctor Sleep (2019) starring Ewan McGregor. I'm positive you will love it just as much
To me it seems like when jack is leaning over the model of the maze and his family is actually in the maze simultaneously that it is representing that they are trapped in his game and he already has plotted the game. Hence why he is symbolically standing over them and smiling. I could be wrong though?
The hotel was feeding off Danny's power. The longer it went on, the more powerful it became, no longer pictures in a book. So, it was a build up that lead to them being able to let him out of the storage room. Then at end, they were powerful enough to actually manifest to real life, when Wendy saw it all. The house was at peak power.
Just seeing the scenes in the snow makes me feel chilly.
The book is even scarier than the movie. I remember reading it in high school and being totally freaked out.
I'd be like: "Hmmm, THAT ain't the same Jack we walked thru' the hotel doors with". All while "thinkin' up ways to get my son outta' Dodge"!!"
Halloran is the hero (along with danny), though it is jarring, and horrifying how suddenly he's murdered. He sacrificed himself to provide them with a way out of there.
Also, eerie how we start hearing the chanting after he's killed. Like a ritual is beginning now that the old racist hotel has a sacrifice.
The Shining, the movie whose music makes title cards scary. Now that's an horror movie.
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Another great Nicholson film is One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest. Won 5 academy awards including actor, actress, director and film
Scatman Crothers is in it with him as well. Along with Danny DeVito, Christopher Lloyd and Brad Dourif. Stellar cast.
Grady did say that Jack was always the caretaker.
Me and my fiance will randomly quote the stairs scene to one another. Such a classic
Some kinda good news that the only other Jack Nicholson film you've seen is The Departed. Because you still have Five Easy Pieces, '89s Batman, Chinatown, his Oscar-winning performance in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, and his breakout role in Easy Rider
This movie and Doctor Sleep are masterpieces! I also LOVE the miniseries.
Mr. Halloran had shining so he foresaw the outcome but went anyhow. In other words, he intentionally sacrificed himself so Danny could escape. He served as the scapegoat and the spot where it happened was a sacrificial alter (look at the tiles).
At the beginning the manager who hires Jack states that the hotel was built on an Indian burial ground! I’ve never seen the sequel but read it was about the adult Danny!
There's controversy about who let Jack out of the pantry. I think Danny did it. He was always watching Road Runner outsmart Coyote in the cartoons... and staring intently. When Jack has the ax and Danny hides in the metal food cart in the hallway, he deliberately jumps out and lets Jack see him - to give chase... then he lures him into the hedge maze - to his death. Danny isn't given enough credit for outwitting Jack.
Now you must watch the sequel to this, Doctor Sleep. Please watch the Director's Cut!
Doctor Sleep is one of my favorite horror movies of all time and does a great job of expanding on the lore of the 'shining' within the Stephen King universe.
Doctor Sleep is my favourite horror movie of the past 10 years, by far! I absolutely adore it and the story really goes in an interesting direction. Stephen King wrote the book, and the film acts as a sequel to both his original novel and Stanley Kubrick's movie, which was Kubrick's interpretation/vision (King famously hated it). Both are incredible.
Watch Tim Burton's "BATMAN" from 1989, Jack Nicholson plays The Joker and he's amazing
25:12 the non-doubletap cones back to haunt primate
My boy primate goin back to his roots with horror movies.
The Shining is the all -time Horror Classic
The atmosphere alone has a sense of dread the permeates the entire film
I love this movie but I agree with Stephen King that Nicholson should have played it straight at the start of the movie to show how drastically the overlook is changing him/bringing out a hidden rage. Then when you find out about him injuring Danny in New Jersey it’s more shocking since he would’ve seemed so normal in the beginning. Still great acting from Jack though.
If you've never seen "One flew over the cuckoo's nest", it's my favorite Jack Nicholson performance. 👍 ❤ 🎥
The movie is also supposedly conceived while Steven king was staying in room 217 in the Stanley hotel in Colorado
One of the best horror films IMO is got to be the newer version of EVIL DEAD 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Damn homie, you picked up on a lot of the little subtleties in this film on your first watch. Well, done. Love your reactions.
The book is a lot better with the internal conflict because it gives a lot of internal dialogue of everyone's thoughts and with Jack, you get to hear him struggle against the influence of the hotel in his head, trying to fight it and recognize what's really happening, then we slowly start to see how the hotel is manipulating his thoughts until it completely takes him. It's definitely a much quicker process in the movie, and the fact that we don't have his internal dialogue to understand what's happening actually makes it more eerie rather than confusing
A Classically classical movie
Kubrik liked to disorient the audience and for that matter, he played a lot with the hotel´s distribution. It has impossible architectures. For example: if you pay attention to the scene where Jack Torrance crosses the corridor and goes into the director's office, there's a window behind the desk. You can see outside through it. But that window shouldn't be there; That window should face the corridor and not the outside, it's an impossible window. Something similar happens with the men's restroom in the hotel bar. The door to the washroom is to the left of the bar, but when they cross it, they turn right twice; therefore they should appear behind the bar itself, but they do not. The bar counter and the washroom share the same physical space, which is impossible. He also likes to switch floors the different rooms of the hotel at times. At the beginning of the film we can see that the kitchen (I think it's the kitchen) is on the first floor, but later the kitchen can be glimpsed through one of the doors in the hallway on the second floor when Danny is riding his tricycle.
There's a fantastic documentary about The Shining called "Room 237". You should watch it!
don't forget about Shelly Duvall performance
I cannot tell how much this film scared me when I first watched it. It does the job well.
The entire "All work and no play..."-sequence is, in my honest opinion, one of the greatest scenes ever filmed. And, believe it or not, but almost all the music heard in this movie wasnt even specifically made for it: Stanley Kubrick used a lot of modern classical compositions from the previous decades for the soundtrack. The kind of creepy, experimental music which has inspired Scores written for Horror-Movies to this day.
As for Stanley Kubrick's other movies, I can heartedly recommend "Full Metal Jacket", "Doctor Strangelove" and "2001: A Space Odyssey": A War Movie, a Black Comedy and a Science Fiction-Film, each one of the best of their respective genres.
I am so happy to see your reaction. This is probably my all time favorite horror/Kubrick flick. The Simpsons treehouse of horror parody is worth checking out.
1. Joe Turkel/Lloyd plays Tyrell in the original Bladerunner (Hint Hint)
2. "Here's Johnny" was adlib by Nickelson.
3. It took 117 takes for Jack to chop through the door. He used his voluuntery firefighting skills to get through all the takes.
4. The reason King didn't like this adaptation of the movie is because he didn't like the changes Kubrick made. This thing was remade
just for King and although the remake was more inline with the book IMVHO it wasn't as good as this one.
5. Danny didn't know the girls were dead (because of his shine he might have known though)
6. Shelly Duvall said making this movie was the worst experience in her life. She was harassed on and off screen.
7. GOOF: They would have taken that meat out of the freezer during winter over. Even frozen it would go past expiration date.
8. The real villain is the hotel itself.
9. A Nickelson movie that snagged all 5 of the top Oscars (including best actor) is One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest".
10. Watch Dr. Sleep. Danny is an adult and many of the loose ends well be cleared up.
If you search online , you may be able to find an interview with the twins as adults wearing the same clothes.
The hotel owns Jack's soul now. Just like all the other people who have died there.
Straight up HYPED for your Doctor Sleep reaction now!
My favorite scene was jack trying get the bat from Wendy on the stairs. His acting was so funny and scary good 😂😂. Also I’m happy to see you enjoying the movie bc I used to throw this on almost all the time back in high school.
Never clicked so fast in my life been waiting a while for this
Hahaha when Wendy was on the radio and kept saying “over” I couldn’t help but think of Family Guy when Brian and Stewie were going to renovate that house!
Nicholson had been a known quantity for quite a while already before The Shining came along. Check out, in particular, Chinatown and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Easy Rider, The King of Marvin Gardens, too. One of his very first onscreen appearances was a bit part in the original, ultra-low budget, black and white, non-musical Little Shop of Horrors as the masochistic dental patient (the role taken by Bill Murray in the 1986 musical remake).
In terms of pure horror this movie makes Jaws feel tame in comparison,seriously though the suspension is second to absolutely none,as far as I'm aware the only equal it has in pure suspension and horror is The Exorcist
The guy with the man in the bear costume is the guy who built the hotel.
Doctor Sleep is an amazing adaptation and sequel. I’ve read both books. Both films are incredible. The Shining is a masterpiece
I love older horror/comedy movies because they start slowly but the buildups at the end are epic. Everybody seems to have ADD these days and wants instant gratification so movies have to be funny or scary in the very first minute to get the audience’s attention but then there’s no buildup. Doctor Strangelove and Some Like It Hot are good examples of classic comedies that have practically no jokes in the first half hour but by the end you’re in tears from laughing so hard. It was a real art form.
You can see why Jack Nicholson was such a perfect casting choice for Joker.
*The Shining* is definitely one of the *best* horror movies ever made!
Although it is *very* different from Stephen King's novel.
Here are some notable differences:
- In the novel, it is way more apparent that the Overlook Hotel is *possessing* Jack, manipulating him into hating his family and become an alcoholic again.
- Jack is more of a *victim* in the novel. There is a scene in the novel where Jack is about to kill Danny, but stops, whispering "Run" to Danny, trying to fight against the powers of the hotel, before the Overlook Hotel takes over again.
- Dick Halloran *survives* in the novel, because Jack only knocked him unconscious in that one, because Jack's weapon in the weapon is a Roque-Bat, instead of an axe.
- Wendy is a way more *dominant* character in the novel, instead of being more submissive.
- The line "Here's Johnny!" *isn't* in the novel, but was instead *improvised* by Jack Nicholson.
- Danny's imaginary friend, Tony, is revealed to be an *older* version of Danny, and Danny physically sees Tony at some points.
Yesssss!! If it’s possible, Dr Sleep has to next! Such a good movie
My theory is that Jack is not in the photograph until he freezes to death, then the hotel captures him.
There's a scene early in the movie before they get to the hotel where Danny freaks out and Wendy calls a doctor, then tells the doctor about Jack "accidently" dislocating Danny's shoulder. Was that not in this cut of the movie?
Another brilliant Jack Nicolson performance is One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. I recommend it.
"I'm sorry to differ with you sir, but you are the caretaker. You've always been the caretaker."
This is the one horror movie that always creeps me out so much. It's all because of Jack Nicholson and the music
If you wanna see a couple of Jack Nicholson's interesting roles, which few people ever talk about, see "Easy Rider" and "The Witches of Eastwick."
If you wanna see a very-different role for Shelly Duvall, I'd recommend finding the live-action musical she co-starred in with Robin Williams: "Popeye."
Someone has suggested that there are two storylines in the film, one the "real" caretaking experience, and the parallel one, where Jack is wearing a burgundy jacket, slowly going crazy. The theory works, and makes many of the events more reasonable. Grady also commented at some point that Jack had "always been the caretaker."
The way Kubrick treated Duvall during the making of the film probably wouldn't fly today.
The shining is the same light that IT hypnotizes the kids with, also it’s the same ability the kid has in the dark tower, and the same shit going on in pet semetary, all stephen king movies/books are in the same universe and connect to each other