1/4 mile is one thing endurance is quite another. In the 1963 Daytona 500 FORD swept the top 5 spots and all of the 409 Chevys exploded. Only Pontiac & Oldsmobile were even close.
HaHa you're correct . It said both engines exactingly tuned?1 The 406 idled too smooth I'll almost bet they increased the valve lash. The 409 had a rough idle. 409's were prone to blow up because they were a big truck engine. Dick Brannan in a '62 Galaxie beat a many 413 Dodge and 409 Chevy!!!!!!
@@charlesmarshall2697 ; Funny how NASCAR was in no hurry to allow Ford to run the 427 SOHC against the Hemi, would have chewed up the Hemi and spit it out.
Probably a 390 or a 406 which are not bad but no match for a Chevy 409. A Ford 427 however is a totally different story. Even the Z11 which was a 427 cubic inch version of the 409 could not handle the Ford 427. this left Chevrolet to develop the Mark IV big block! The 'Mystery' motor was a prototype for the big block Chevy.
It's amazing how alike the two cars look. From then all the way to today, car brands tend to travel along at the same pace, arriving at trends, technologies and styling at the same time.
After the wild styling race near the end of the 50's, the big 3 toned it down for '63 to '65. With automobiles you have two choices risk it all with a radical design or play it safe and just follow the leader but remain in the shadows of the competitor. I wouldn't say they all travel at the same pace it's more of a game of keeping up with the Joneses. One year your leader, the next your following but If you keep focusing on what your neighbor is doing sooner or later your going to end up just like them.
@@operator91210 now that you mentioned the cars as test mules, i got a feeling that these cars were crushed after testing was finished. That's what happened to a lot of test mule cars. There are a couple of examples out there that were fortunate to escape the crusher
@@willthetrill4849 usually test mules don't have vin's so if they fell into the wrong hands they are virtually impossible to trace hence why each one is destroyed after testing. With that said they still had to buy a ford for this film so maybe the Chevy was a production model? Some test cars do survive though like you said. For example a employee at the Corvette factory in Kentucky managed to save a forgotten 1983 Corvette pilot prototype. It was part of the early production program so they made 43 cars in total all but the one were destroyed as it just sorta slipped through the cracks and hid under a tarp in the back lot for two years until it was pulled inside by the plant manager and displayed in the front hall of the plant then donated to the Corvette museum when it opened in the 90's
I find it strange Chevy would spec out a impala with the 409 and standard shift on a 4 door sedan body just for this promo video and obviously they had to factory order the ford. I bet the ford people scratched their heads when they saw one of the hottest engines around be stuffed into a stripper sedan body. I wonder where they are now 🤔
Out front.........Maybe in your commercial. But not in the Daytona 500 of 1963...As a matter of fact ... The winner was a 63 Galaxie, and 2nd and 3rd and 4th oh......and 5th... How's that Chevrolet?
Oh, Wait Chevy!!! The 63 Galaxie did NOT win ALL 5 spots!!!! A 1962 Galaxie got one of them!!!! So C"mon Chevy !!! Go sell your crap somewhere else!!! You can't beat ford!!!!
I'm not exactly sure, but Ford was taking a strong interest in general around that time. Their 'Indy' engine is a great example -- pretty much the same mill that went into the GT-40.☮
Well Yeah.... A 409 vs a what looked to be a 406 but maybe 390 or 427. 63 was first year for 427 ford. Chevy and their 409 had a couple year headstart. Wasnt much running down a dual quad 409. Not even a max wedge 426. If the 409 was tuned right. Im a diehard ford man that fines an older mopar pulls at the heart strings. But the 409 was easily one of the greatest all out racing engines ever built. Right next to the 426 max wedge III, tunnel port 427, boss 302 and 429 also the 428, 429 SCJ's and Id Never ever forget about the baddest of them all. And a chevy, the DZ302, LS6 and L88. And last but never least. The A990 and S/S Hemi's. The 60s through 71, except for the later SD455 Were the.baddest years for muscle car engine options. 425hp went through the body like thunder from a lightning strike 2 feet away. Todays 425hp can be achieved by a almost basic 4cyl. Fast but nowhere close to the break your neck torque of the Old Days. The sounds were Angellic while at the same time being so evil and ferocious. Technology has came along long way. But pure displacement with a rowdy ¾ solid lifter camshaft and 104 octane fuel and higher was all you ever needed to shake grandma's fine china right off the cabinet and straight to the floor. Smash,crash, crunch. The Good Ole' Days. Boy, do I miss them. But atleast i can say i was there. Ya kno
I was 6 years old when this test was done. I was a car nut even then. I knew the 57 Chevy would be a classic when I was 3 years old even before it was a classic. I would be pointing them out from the back seat of our 55' Olds Rocket 88 going down the road. In 65' we got a Motorific slot car race track for Xmas, and Santa got me an extra car which was the 57' Chevy because he knew I was a big fan.😁
Both of these overpowered beasts with inadequate brakes run very well, but I find the Ford to be much better looking. As far as the less powerful versions that most people bought, the Ford had a 3-speed automatic, while the Chevy had the 2-speed Powerglide along with the notorious X-frame which had no side impact protection.
Neighbor had a 1963 Bel Air and I remember riding in it because it was my best friends parents car. I also remember every time you hit a bump you heard a bump sound. It was the body bouncing up off of the frame because the body mounts rusted away.
I can remember as a kid reading the 1960s car racing magazines and most seemed biased to GM cars. That said, the stock drag racing competition was fairly close . The earlier 409's had connecting rod issues in the high speed Daytona type races. I remember a Jr. Johnson interview where he said he received a few of the mark 4 type 409s and they really stayed together and he won races with them. He was my favorite driver. Some said he was the biggest cheater but he said it was all in how you interpreted the rules. A funny story he told was how he hid extra fuel. The rule stated the length of the fuel line not the diameter. He ran a long section if 2 inch line that gave him 2 or three extra gallons. A J Foyt was clever but Johnson was the best
I won't lie I was a Chevy kid in 63. Never cared much for Ford styling between 1960-63' I liked the 64' Galaxies, but the 65' was my favorite Galaxie of all time.
I like the 1963 so much better than the 1964. We had a number of Chevrolets growing up in the 1950's and 1960's. People always talked about Chrysler rusting but every time my dad got a new car it was because his current Chevrolet had body rust.1959 front fenders right above the headlights. 1965 dog legs just behind the rear doors. 1968 Chevelle same all around the wheel arches, and around the windshield, and tes they were washed and waxed and kept in our barn.
@@scrambler69-xk3kv All cars rusted back then unless you lived in a very dry part of the country or garaged your car. The technology for full rust proofing metal wasn't even available then. Full rustproof technology didn't happen until the 70's, before that they spray on coatings as an option that few got because it just prolonged it.
Looks like 406 ford with 3 deuces vs 409 Chevy with 2 fours...hardly equal since Chevy also offered a 409 3 deuce option. Seen this slight of hand trick before.
@@Helicamman When I was 13 my cousin had a 1960 Bel Air with a 348 and trip's. My uncle would disconnect the linkage so it only had one two barrel hooked up but when we left the house he would reconnect them and we would have some fun, then he would disconnect them before we got back to the house so my uncle never knew.
Take note it was no such thing as a Camaro or Mustang when this comparison was made, that's why "standard" Detroit cars at that time can be ordered from an I6 to a big-block v8..
Wonder why they didn't include the 1963 Plymouth Fury with the super-stock 413? Hummmmmmmm? The Plymouth Fury Max Wedge 413 could run a quarter-mile in 11.81 seconds at 120 miles per hour.
Try again - "Little Old Lady From Pasadena "- references her "brand new, shiny red Super Stock Dodge".And what about The Beach Boys' little tale of the race between the Corvette and the ram inducted 413 Dodge - "Shutdown"??
Chevy commercial. Those 406’s were ripping those hand grenade 409’s on the street and the track. Many 327 Chevy’s would out run the 409. Not opinion but fact.
Shown us some film of that Mr. Fact. As I recall it the old FE 348's could handle the Ford 406. Your 327 comment is laughable. Did you actually own any of these?
None of the Mopar & Ford fanboys want to mention that GM won the cup series championship for 12 straight years including 1976 thru 1987. And who dominates, still, the manufacturers championships? Cherry pick your data but never look at the big picture. That would just Chevy look just too good for Ford & Mopar fans. Championship winners (totals) Manufacturer Total wins Cup Wins NXS Wins Truck Wins Chevrolet 75 41 24 10 Ford 23 17 4 2 Toyota 21 3 4 14 Buick 5 2 3 - Dodge 5 2 0 3 Pontiac 5 1 4 - Hudson 3 3 - - Oldsmobile 3 1 2 - Plymouth 1 1 - - Chrysler 0 0 - - Mercury 0 0 0 -
Yeah…how bout' that "Corvette?"…you remember the GM fuel injection…LOL, LOL…The injection system that doubled as a part time barbecue. Typical "bow tie BS" compare a fuel injected CHEV to a carbureted Ford. My dual quad 57' woulda sucked the doors off that CHEV rust bucket…even when equipped with the incinerator injection. We used to call Vettes "plastic Camaros"..LOL..LOL. FORDZ4EVR
@@dmoore7519 the 1962 1963 and 1964 Dodge Darts came with an optional 413 Max wedge engine with two four barrel carburetors these cars would eat a Chevy 409 and also a stingray Corvette you ever heard the Beach boys tune shut em down it's about a 63 dart and a stingray Corvette
That wouldn't have been a fair test because the Dart was a intermediate. Now a Polara with a 413 Max wedge that would have been a contest. Although I have a feeling Chevrolet was not interested in showing it getting its ass handed to it by Mopar on their own test remember this was a Chevrolet promotional video promoting the Impala with the 409 as you can tell by looking at the valve covers when they do the under-hood shot. Now a more fair test would have been a Ford Galaxie equipped with the 410 or 430 MEL motor, which had a very similar engine architecture to the W Motor from Chevrolet. 390 and 427 FE big block bad about floating valves at high RPM
@@johnsalazard6659 You're right.....after listening to this again, I can hear them shift through the gears and on the close up of the Chevy engine, I saw the 409 valve covers. I had a '62 Impala SS "409" back in high school, dual 4s, 411 gears and close ratio 4spd. It passed everything on the road........except the GAS STATIONS!!! ;-)
my dad had a 62 belair sedan with a 327 and bought a 409 from a wrecked impala ss and dropped it in the belair back in the late 60s, he later on traded it for a 67 chevelle ss 396 in the 70s. ive seen old photos of it when my dad was in his 20s. i recently bought a 64 belair 2dr post from an old man and then bought a 409 at a car show a couple of months later, i never thought i would find one so i jumped on it, im currently restoring it, i can t wait til its complete
@@johnsalazard6659 Wow....what fun you're gonna have!! They made the "409" up through midyear 1965 when they replaced it with the "396". (I had a '66 Chevelle SS 396 later on myself). Any idea which year your motor is? Mine was factory Hipo all the way including factory dump tubes off the exhaust manifolds and no PS or PB. (from the factory) and the clutch was VERY stiff. Be sure and take lots of pictures of before and after....you'll be glad you did later on. I also had a '61 SS in the early '70s, but it was the "348" version that came out just before the "409" (which came out in mid '61). Here below is some more info on the "409". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_big-block_engine
my dad ran an engine code check and by the numbers, its a 1964-65 409 block, from what my dad is telling me, the engine had been modded a one time, it had heavy duty valve springs and other things. i got the heads cleaned and sandblasted, now im going to do the block when i have time and with this whole cv19 deal happening.
fords are always slower than chevrolets get worse mileage less dependable and always knocking and blowing up, ugly too . CHEVROLET'S ALWAYS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!
johnbecker I guess you're trapped in a time machine with the dial stuck on 1963 LOL. GM built some decent cars from 1946 - 1982. Fast forward to 1992. GM was getting away from RWD vehicles with a few exceptions including Impala SS and Corvette. Ford soldiered onward with full-size V8 RWD sedans including Crown Victoria, Grand Marquis and Lincoln Town Car (all essentially the same car), powered by the infamous 4.6 SOHC V8. In terms of COMBINED reliability, durability and fuel economy, Ford's SOHC V8 exceeds ANY V8 engine ever built by GM. Before you scream Northstar V8, remember that Northstar in any displacement were notorious for blowing head gaskets and cooking their piston rings, burning oil. I have been stomping around on this planet for 57 years, owned/driven/repaired dozens of cars and have NEVER seen a V8 engine which can touch Ford's SOHC V8 (I've owned 5). My 95 Crown Vic, weighing in at 3950 lbs wet, at 60 mph on cruise control gets 33.5 MPG (US). Facts. A few years ago I saw, with my own eyes, a 92 Grand Marquis with 430 000 miles on the odometer. Body a little rough. No significant oil consumption. Idled smoothly. ORIGINAL ENGINE. ORIGINAL TIMING CHAIN. Facts my friend.
First of all The Chevy is the 409 / 426 H.P. and the 406 / 405 H.P. typical Chevy BULLSHIT . I owned a new 1962 " 406" Galaxie. Great car until I thought I would have it blue printed and the imbecil who worked on it and it never ran good aqgain. He also ruined 2 other Fe motors. Long story short, The only 409 I ever lost to was a set-up all at race car. I beat like 4 409's at the track and the street. I ran mid - high 13's without tubing headers , 4:11 rear and 7 inch tires. no Hurst shifter and that really hurt me. National record at the time was like high 12's so ....
Good story bro. Beat "like" four 409s?? Show us your track ticket. And by the way, it looks like the chevy in the commercial is running a two speed power glide. Probably the 400 horsepower version.
@@grex1242 My timing slips did not indicate the makes and years of our cars ! Must admit (2) were convertibles although one of them was a track favorite called " Big Mama " , one was a very rare 409 station wagon. very rare honduras Maroon and 4-speed.
The Chevy wins in a Chevy commercial. Who woulda thunk it? I’m a Chevy guy but even I know a BS commercial when I see it
1/4 mile is one thing endurance is quite another. In the 1963 Daytona 500 FORD swept the top 5 spots and all of the 409 Chevys exploded. Only Pontiac & Oldsmobile were even close.
And THIS vid was about the quarter mile.....wasn't it? ;-)
HaHa you're correct . It said both engines exactingly tuned?1 The 406 idled too smooth I'll almost bet they increased the valve lash. The 409 had a rough idle. 409's were prone to blow up because they were a big truck engine. Dick Brannan in a '62 Galaxie beat a many 413 Dodge and 409 Chevy!!!!!!
The Chevies at the '63 Daytona 500 had 427 Mystery Motors,not 409s.
How did those fords do the next year? Oh...the closest Ford was 6 miles behind a bunch of 426 Hemi Mopars!
@@charlesmarshall2697 ; Funny how NASCAR was in no hurry to allow Ford to run the 427 SOHC against the Hemi, would have chewed up the Hemi and spit it out.
I've found the worst thing you can do to a ford is let a Chevy guy tune it.Let alone work on it.😂🤣😂
Need to blow it up Mopar or no car
M.O.P.A.R. --->>> My Old Pig Ain't Running
Ain't that the truth
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The Ford definitely didn't have the Ford FE427 high rise in it.
That didn't come till 63 1/2
Probably a 390 or a 406 which are not bad but no match for a Chevy 409. A Ford 427 however is a totally different story. Even the Z11 which was a 427 cubic inch version of the 409 could not handle the Ford 427. this left Chevrolet to develop the Mark IV big block! The 'Mystery' motor was a prototype for the big block Chevy.
rayandrews true. And the Chevy probably wasn't a (rare) 409 with solid lifters...
Id still prefer the Ford that had a professional driver with hangover..
It's amazing how alike the two cars look.
From then all the way to today, car brands tend to travel along at the same pace, arriving at trends, technologies and styling at the same time.
After the wild styling race near the end of the 50's, the big 3 toned it down for '63 to '65. With automobiles you have two choices risk it all with a radical design or play it safe and just follow the leader but remain in the shadows of the competitor. I wouldn't say they all travel at the same pace it's more of a game of keeping up with the Joneses. One year your leader, the next your following but If you keep focusing on what your neighbor is doing sooner or later your going to end up just like them.
At least back then one could still tell brands apart from one another.☮
High performance engines in a full size 4 door car, those cars must be very rare. Don't know if any of the featured cars still exist
Only thing I could think of is the impala was a test mule car to keep the new 409 on the hush hush until it was announcement time.
@@operator91210 now that you mentioned the cars as test mules, i got a feeling that these cars were crushed after testing was finished. That's what happened to a lot of test mule cars. There are a couple of examples out there that were fortunate to escape the crusher
@@willthetrill4849 usually test mules don't have vin's so if they fell into the wrong hands they are virtually impossible to trace hence why each one is destroyed after testing. With that said they still had to buy a ford for this film so maybe the Chevy was a production model? Some test cars do survive though like you said. For example a employee at the Corvette factory in Kentucky managed to save a forgotten 1983 Corvette pilot prototype. It was part of the early production program so they made 43 cars in total all but the one were destroyed as it just sorta slipped through the cracks and hid under a tarp in the back lot for two years until it was pulled inside by the plant manager and displayed in the front hall of the plant then donated to the Corvette museum when it opened in the 90's
The big engines went in the big cars initially .
That was no average Joe, non professional driver at the wheel of the 409 Impala. Mr. Average Joe definetly knows how to shift a 409 Chevy 4 speed car.
I find it strange Chevy would spec out a impala with the 409 and standard shift on a 4 door sedan body just for this promo video and obviously they had to factory order the ford. I bet the ford people scratched their heads when they saw one of the hottest engines around be stuffed into a stripper sedan body. I wonder where they are now 🤔
@@operator91210the hot set up in those days was the 4 spd stick .
@@operator91210 A friend of mine owned 2 four door, 409 Chevys, I don't know what the transmition was in either car.
Out front.........Maybe in your commercial. But not in the Daytona 500 of 1963...As a matter of fact ... The winner was a 63 Galaxie, and 2nd and 3rd and 4th oh......and 5th... How's that Chevrolet?
Oh, Wait Chevy!!! The 63 Galaxie did NOT win ALL 5 spots!!!! A 1962 Galaxie got one of them!!!! So C"mon Chevy !!! Go sell your crap somewhere else!!! You can't beat ford!!!!
@@eugeneschulte4950 And a 60 Chevy with a 348 won a Nascar race in 1962! Look it up.
@@grex1242 This was a 1963 comparason. Not 1960. And Chevy(and Pontiac) were violating the 1957 AMA agreement. I fail to see your point.
In those days Nascar was dominated by Ford and Pontiac.
Didn't Ford dominate Nascar at this time???
I'm not exactly sure, but Ford was taking a strong interest in general around that time. Their 'Indy' engine is a great example -- pretty much the same mill that went into the GT-40.☮
Well Yeah.... A 409 vs a what looked to be a 406 but maybe 390 or 427. 63 was first year for 427 ford. Chevy and their 409 had a couple year headstart. Wasnt much running down a dual quad 409. Not even a max wedge 426. If the 409 was tuned right. Im a diehard ford man that fines an older mopar pulls at the heart strings. But the 409 was easily one of the greatest all out racing engines ever built. Right next to the 426 max wedge III, tunnel port 427, boss 302 and 429 also the 428, 429 SCJ's and Id Never ever forget about the baddest of them all. And a chevy, the DZ302, LS6 and L88. And last but never least. The A990 and S/S Hemi's. The 60s through 71, except for the later SD455 Were the.baddest years for muscle car engine options. 425hp went through the body like thunder from a lightning strike 2 feet away. Todays 425hp can be achieved by a almost basic 4cyl. Fast but nowhere close to the break your neck torque of the Old Days. The sounds were Angellic while at the same time being so evil and ferocious. Technology has came along long way. But pure displacement with a rowdy ¾ solid lifter camshaft and 104 octane fuel and higher was all you ever needed to shake grandma's fine china right off the cabinet and straight to the floor. Smash,crash, crunch. The Good Ole' Days. Boy, do I miss them. But atleast i can say i was there. Ya kno
THE FORD 427 SOHC WAS THE BEST OF THEM ALL BY FAR!!!!!. OVER 686 HP
I was 6 years old when this test was done. I was a car nut even then. I knew the 57 Chevy would be a classic when I was 3 years old even before it was a classic. I would be pointing them out from the back seat of our 55' Olds Rocket 88 going down the road. In 65' we got a Motorific slot car race track for Xmas, and Santa got me an extra car which was the 57' Chevy because he knew I was a big fan.😁
Both of these overpowered beasts with inadequate brakes run very well, but I find the Ford to be much better looking. As far as the less powerful versions that most people bought, the Ford had a 3-speed automatic, while the Chevy had the 2-speed Powerglide along with the notorious X-frame which had no side impact protection.
Now show the Chevy getting blown away by a 1963 Plymouth with the 426 wedge.
They were definitely closer in the 1/4
Not the Z11
Video sounds like Chevy propaganda. Guess they needed this BS since they couldn't win on race day.
A 1963 Impala SS convertible could still pass for eye candy today.
Wow, the Ford held up that well even though it had much more restrictive heads on it.
Friend of mine had a Galaxy with a 352, I had a 63 Impala with a 327. I raced him twice, and blew his doors off both times!!!!
What’s the weight of each car ?
Just another Chevrolet add
Fomoco. Guys. Just. Can't. Take. It.
Neighbor had a 1963 Bel Air and I remember riding in it because it was my best friends parents car. I also remember every time you hit a bump you heard a bump sound. It was the body bouncing up off of the frame because the body mounts rusted away.
Lol.No Chevrolet bias here.
I can remember as a kid reading the 1960s car racing magazines and most seemed biased to GM cars. That said, the stock drag racing competition was fairly close . The earlier 409's had connecting rod issues in the high speed Daytona type races. I remember a Jr. Johnson interview where he said he received a few of the mark 4 type 409s and they really stayed together and he won races with them. He was my favorite driver. Some said he was the biggest cheater but he said it was all in how you interpreted the rules. A funny story he told was how he hid extra fuel. The rule stated the length of the fuel line not the diameter. He ran a long section if 2 inch line that gave him 2 or three extra gallons. A J Foyt was clever but Johnson was the best
I won't lie I was a Chevy kid in 63. Never cared much for Ford styling between 1960-63' I liked the 64' Galaxies, but the 65' was my favorite Galaxie of all time.
Chrysler always had the best looking cars and the most powerful engines over Ford
@@michaelflores2318 Chrysler had the ugliest bland cars in the early to mid 60s.
I like the 1963 so much better than the 1964. We had a number of Chevrolets growing up in the 1950's and 1960's. People always talked about Chrysler rusting but every time my dad got a new car it was because his current Chevrolet had body rust.1959 front fenders right above the headlights. 1965 dog legs just behind the rear doors. 1968 Chevelle same all around the wheel arches, and around the windshield, and tes they were washed and waxed and kept in our barn.
@@scrambler69-xk3kv All cars rusted back then unless you lived in a very dry part of the country or garaged your car. The technology for full rust proofing metal wasn't even available then. Full rustproof technology didn't happen until the 70's, before that they spray on coatings as an option that few got because it just prolonged it.
Man I remember those days
I would like the winner to race a 63 Max Wedge Dodge.
Why the hell would either car need a tune lol. I call bullshit.
Looks like 406 ford with 3 deuces vs 409 Chevy with 2 fours...hardly equal since Chevy also offered a 409 3 deuce option. Seen this slight of hand trick before.
Chevy never offered a 3 two 409 a 348 had 3 2's though
They offered the 348 with 3 deuces but never offered that setup on a 409 from the factory.
@@Helicamman When I was 13 my cousin had a 1960 Bel Air with a 348 and trip's. My uncle would disconnect the linkage so it only had one two barrel hooked up but when we left the house he would reconnect them and we would have some fun, then he would disconnect them before we got back to the house so my uncle never knew.
Take note it was no such thing as a Camaro or Mustang when this comparison was made, that's why "standard" Detroit cars at that time can be ordered from an I6 to a big-block v8..
Wonder why they didn't include the 1963 Plymouth Fury with the super-stock 413? Hummmmmmmm? The Plymouth Fury Max Wedge 413 could run a quarter-mile in 11.81 seconds at 120 miles per hour.
No.
A lot of sour grapes on here. They didn't write any songs about "FE" or "wedge"...Lol and never will.
Try again - "Little Old Lady From Pasadena "- references her "brand new, shiny red Super Stock Dodge".And what about The Beach Boys' little tale of the race between the Corvette and the ram inducted 413 Dodge - "Shutdown"??
They didn't have too. They wrote their own songs out on the tracks.
"Poppa said Son your gonna drive me to drinking,,if ya don't stop driving that Hot Rod Lincoln " 😎🇺🇸
Chevy commercial lol
Chevy commercial. Those 406’s were ripping those hand grenade 409’s on the street and the track. Many 327 Chevy’s would out run the 409. Not opinion but fact.
Neither of them had a chance in hell against the Max Wedge Mopars!
@@charlesmarshall2697 Thats why Ford released the 427.
Shown us some film of that Mr. Fact. As I recall it the old FE 348's could handle the Ford 406. Your 327 comment is laughable. Did you actually own any of these?
406's were not whipping the 425/409. You are dreaming. They weren't even a good race.
@@grex1242 "FE 348"?? Now there's your LAUGHABLE !!😂
you should have had a 63 Mopar Max wedge would have made both of them cars look like toddler toys
None of the Mopar & Ford fanboys want to mention that GM won the cup series championship for 12 straight years including 1976 thru 1987. And who dominates, still, the manufacturers championships? Cherry pick your data but never look at the big picture. That would just Chevy look just too good for Ford & Mopar fans.
Championship winners (totals)
Manufacturer Total
wins Cup
Wins
NXS
Wins
Truck
Wins
Chevrolet 75 41 24 10
Ford 23 17 4 2
Toyota 21 3 4 14
Buick 5 2 3 -
Dodge 5 2 0 3
Pontiac 5 1 4 -
Hudson 3 3 - -
Oldsmobile 3 1 2 -
Plymouth 1 1 - -
Chrysler 0 0 - -
Mercury 0 0 0 -
True. Ford had bigger fish to fry...like winning at LeMans in 1966 where GM had tried...and failed.
Let that sink in Bowtie Boy 😊.
Yeah…how bout' that "Corvette?"…you remember the GM fuel injection…LOL, LOL…The injection system that doubled as a part time barbecue. Typical "bow tie BS" compare a fuel injected CHEV to a carbureted Ford. My dual quad 57' woulda sucked the doors off that CHEV rust bucket…even when equipped with the incinerator injection. We used to call Vettes "plastic Camaros"..LOL..LOL. FORDZ4EVR
and this inspired that one opening scene in ford v ferrari
1963 Catalina sd 421 lightweight took NHRA championship in super stock.
looked more like a biscayne or bel air
Chevy has two speed automatic.
They should have put the 1963 Dodge dart with a 413 Max wedge in this video would have been cool to see all three of them compete here
I’ll look but I the most V-8 offered in a 63 Dart was the 273.
@@dmoore7519 the 1962 1963 and 1964 Dodge Darts came with an optional 413 Max wedge engine with two four barrel carburetors these cars would eat a Chevy 409 and also a stingray Corvette you ever heard the Beach boys tune shut em down it's about a 63 dart and a stingray Corvette
That wouldn't have been a fair test because the Dart was a intermediate. Now a Polara with a 413 Max wedge that would have been a contest. Although I have a feeling Chevrolet was not interested in showing it getting its ass handed to it by Mopar on their own test remember this was a Chevrolet promotional video promoting the Impala with the 409 as you can tell by looking at the valve covers when they do the under-hood shot. Now a more fair test would have been a Ford Galaxie equipped with the 410 or 430 MEL motor, which had a very similar engine architecture to the W Motor from Chevrolet. 390 and 427 FE big block bad about floating valves at high RPM
Couple of granny cars racing to church
Sour. Grapes. For. Fomoco.
Awesome.
I'd rather have the 427 thunderbolt any race day..
Ferrari eaters LoL 😂😎😎😎😎
So what were the motors and trans in these cars?? 406 Ford and 409 Chevy?
ford's 406 v chevy's 409, both cars had the 4 speed
@@johnsalazard6659 You're right.....after listening to this again, I can hear them shift through the gears and on the
close up of the Chevy engine, I saw the 409 valve covers. I had a '62 Impala SS "409" back in high school, dual 4s, 411 gears and close ratio 4spd. It passed everything on the road........except the GAS STATIONS!!! ;-)
my dad had a 62 belair sedan with a 327 and bought a 409 from a wrecked impala ss and dropped it in the belair back in the late 60s, he later on traded it for a 67 chevelle ss 396 in the 70s. ive seen old photos of it when my dad was in his 20s. i recently bought a 64 belair 2dr post from an old man and then bought a 409 at a car show a couple of months later, i never thought i would find one so i jumped on it, im currently restoring it, i can t wait til its complete
@@johnsalazard6659 Wow....what fun you're gonna have!! They made the "409" up through midyear 1965 when they replaced it with the "396". (I had a '66 Chevelle SS 396 later on myself). Any idea which year your motor is? Mine was factory Hipo all the way including factory dump tubes off the exhaust manifolds and no PS or PB. (from the factory) and the clutch was VERY stiff. Be sure and take lots of pictures of before and after....you'll be glad you did later on. I also had a '61 SS in the early '70s, but it was the "348" version that came out just before the "409" (which came out in mid '61). Here below is some more info on the "409". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_big-block_engine
my dad ran an engine code check and by the numbers, its a 1964-65 409 block, from what my dad is telling me, the engine had been modded a one time, it had heavy duty valve springs and other things. i got the heads cleaned and sandblasted, now im going to do the block when i have time and with this whole cv19 deal happening.
They were shifting the Ford way to soon
a powerglide out performs a thee speed automatic.
Those Powerglide's would really run out in low gear. That Ford probably has a two speed Ford O Matic.
Chevy Power
I'm thinking the 409 would out run the 327 FI Corvette.
chevy>ford
GEE...WASN'T THE FUEL INJECTION ON THE VETTE, THE ONE THAT CAUGHT FIRE TILL GM STOPPED USING IT? I HOPE THE "PLASTIC CAMARO" DOESN'T BURN
You tie for second in the dumbest comment section
Yes, and two more races the 409 puked.
I'd say at least about 6 races
Out front by only one car length? I'll take the better-looking galaxie, if it's cheaper.
Except it's not better looking, or even close.
@@Faber-cator There is a reason for that.
The Chevy hardly beat the Ford
fords are always slower than chevrolets get worse mileage less dependable and always knocking and blowing up, ugly too . CHEVROLET'S ALWAYS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!
johnbecker I guess you're trapped in a time machine with the dial stuck on 1963 LOL. GM built some decent cars from 1946 - 1982. Fast forward to 1992. GM was getting away from RWD vehicles with a few exceptions including Impala SS and Corvette. Ford soldiered onward with full-size V8 RWD sedans including Crown Victoria, Grand Marquis and Lincoln Town Car (all essentially the same car), powered by the infamous 4.6 SOHC V8. In terms of COMBINED reliability, durability and fuel economy, Ford's SOHC V8 exceeds ANY V8 engine ever built by GM. Before you scream Northstar V8, remember that Northstar in any displacement were notorious for blowing head gaskets and cooking their piston rings, burning oil. I have been stomping around on this planet for 57 years, owned/driven/repaired dozens of cars and have NEVER seen a V8 engine which can touch Ford's SOHC V8 (I've owned 5).
My 95 Crown Vic, weighing in at 3950 lbs wet, at 60 mph on cruise control gets 33.5 MPG (US). Facts.
A few years ago I saw, with my own eyes, a 92 Grand Marquis with
430 000 miles on the odometer. Body a little rough. No significant oil consumption. Idled smoothly.
ORIGINAL ENGINE. ORIGINAL TIMING CHAIN. Facts my friend.
@@californiadreaming9216 you are a delusional ford boy.
Hilarious.,😂
Chevy only has a to speed auto.
So does the Ford. It would be a Two speed Ford O Matic.
Paulsheehan yu ned too lurn howe too spel.
Why did chevy quit racing in 1963 then? Cause the could beat ford!!
I call bullshit
Well it's a promo film by a car manufacturer of course theres some form of bias!
First of all The Chevy is the 409 / 426 H.P. and the 406 / 405 H.P.
typical Chevy BULLSHIT . I owned a new 1962 " 406" Galaxie. Great car until I thought I would have it blue printed and the imbecil who worked on it and it never ran good aqgain. He also ruined 2 other Fe motors. Long story short, The only 409 I ever lost to was a set-up all at race car. I beat like 4 409's at the track and the street. I ran mid - high 13's without tubing headers , 4:11 rear and 7 inch tires. no Hurst shifter and that really hurt me. National record at the time was like high 12's so ....
Good story bro. Beat "like" four 409s?? Show us your track ticket. And by the way, it looks like the chevy in the commercial is running a two speed power glide. Probably the 400 horsepower version.
@@grex1242 My timing slips did not indicate the makes and years of our cars ! Must admit (2) were convertibles although one of them was a track favorite called " Big Mama " , one was a very rare 409 station wagon. very rare honduras Maroon and 4-speed.
😂...ok🤣
The Mystery Motor???? The only mystery there is, is why Chevy SUCKS SO BAD when it counts!!!!!
Gapped that ferd