So regarding the first clip. This has been a known bug in wow since 04. Pets stay in combat for a coupl frames after the duel is over and a bleed or dot on them will still trigger and flag you to the guards.
He was never good 😆. He just made entertaining videos. I know because we used to beat him often in duels and arena. Shout out to OG Dark Spear and Dara Mac
@ I was server first ArenaMaster on Dark Iron WOTLK. We had SK gaming on our server. We then as a group went to Darkspear when they allowed race changes. Swifty was a Darkspear OG. I played Warrior back then and have forgotten more about Arena than most will ever know.
Mizkif's death is the WHOLE reason, I went to Tirisfal, and did enough quests to get to friendly. Because Undercity guard's are Neutral to Orc's, Tauren's, and Trolls. Also he never rended the pet, it wasn't targeted *once* in that. It's purely cause a dot hit a friendly horde character. Then the UC affiliated guard's, due to the Neutral, did what Booty Bay bruisers would do. Partial bug, partially due to coding. Just make sure you're friendly with UC. Doing their questchain from the starting zone, all the way until you leave Tirisfal got my Troll to friendly, and I like... breathed a sigh of relief lol.
Pika doing everything is his ability to try and live was so funny to me haha, those low level shamans be kickin ass! and yes, there's a low lvl quest that gives you 2 swiftness pots on the horde side lol idk about alliance probably the same
Just so everyone knows.. all of your favorite streamers and/or youtubers, watch everything. Stop being ignorant about that. You won't be a good streamer WITHOUT doing your homework. You HAVE to prewatch stuff to make sure it's OK in the first place
@@Travar1410 this isn't true, most of them have mods/editors that will check the validity of content before hand. Sure some people probably prewatch but it would be way to obvious if the content creator prewatched the content. Lets stop acting like these streamers are award winning actors that can somehow prewatch hundreds of hours of content and then react to them like its some first time reaction without ever slipping up. It's so obvious that they just have other people check the content for them before hand, there is also different types of content that is more risky then other, not all content needs to be prewatched.
@@Travar1410 lol... no? that's not how it works... first of all... why would you have to prewatch something? if it's ok for youtube TOS it's 99% gotta be ok for twitch TOS. also: there's mods, chat, friends etc. also: they can skim through it on a second screen. why are you trying to "explain" stuff you don't know sh*t about? i don't get it...
I too almost died on my level 23 lock to the refugees, I was taking the camp of 3 which were all green to me so I thought I was good and the guy on the horse spawned right on my head, I have no idea how I lived, Popped hp stone and lesser hp pot and this level 25 tauren hunter SAVED MY ASS if that guy is watching I still freaking love you, man! :(
AoE grinding is high risk and high reward. To be able to do something that repetitive without ever getting mentally fatigued and messing it up... That's a major skill.
This is do much better than last time it was almost boring to watch it was just a case of the Streamers just got Mob Tagged to what lvl 40 & got given everything but this new time is so much better to watch where we are watching the Streamers playing the game
3:00 I AOE leveled my druid and it was wild. The line between life and death was tough to negotiate! You have to use the character's entire toolkit with the proper knowledge + execution
24:30 It's not really a bug. Mage jumped off so boss didn't have a path which caused it to reset/evade that in turn also resets threat levels. Tank couldn't gain threat fast enough and didn't taunt or taunt resisted. With high level regrowth crit it's no wonder the healer pulled agro.
16:48 This guy griefing Mizkif naming his char "youlostmaya" is something different. well said Xaryu this man needs love but also im scared how deep decency dropped these days.
people like that dont need any love, they know what they are doing. they are doing it to be a bad person. 0 love. some people cant be fixed so dont waste your time.
a perma ban is what this dummy need , that's straight up harassment / griefing / stream sniping and with a name like that its very clearly personal and i say that while i dont care in either way about Mizkif ... just common decency
Yeah curious about context on this one. If Maya is another player he accidentally let die or scouldn't help, it's funny. If it's like, a significant other or a child or someone that died IRL, that's psychopath territory.
I'm no boomer, but trying to come up with 400iq ways to turn/blink/without getting hit by the boss and having the warrior taunt is so extra when the alternative is just use 20 iq and not pull threat on a boss that 1 shots you. Poor healer caught a died as a stray - i feel for her
people dont realize how much more cringe the first few horde zones are then the alliance, shit ton of places to fall, high level roaming pats, fast mobs, dense spawns, LOTTA CAVES)
It's been in the game forever for All i know, duelling a pet class can aggro neutral guards like the undead in Tarren Mill. I think because the pet remains in combat with it opponent for a tiny bit after duel or something. The lock 100 knew, he positioned himself in a way that he would stand close to a guard himself. First time Miz wasn't at fault imo, it still was dumb theres plenty of mobs nearby he could get feared into with low hp
Im leveling a mage in HC and thought about AOE grinding then I remembered how many times I died to random things when I AOE grinded in classic Its frustrating to learn every single pull
yeee aoe grinding and boosting with mage is a fun learning curve - dungeons if u start learning i dont know how many 100 times i run back to dung from spirit healer :D
It's like Garrosh levels of shitty, having his weapon poisoned for the duel. (I think he KNEW personally. Cairne would have been a much better wafchief. >:( )
Only Gingi and Pika have properly set up cameras everyone else are playing with zoom in, idk how can they be aware of anything around them with that kind of view.
Most people that i know that talk shit on mage AoE grinding have done it in a more modern version of the game or with gear at level 60 and dont understand how close to death you are doing it at relevant levels in classic.
I've been watching you for months, and I'm really not even sure how. I just sorta got recommended you, and I haven't subscribed until today, which is kind of funny. Because I watch so much of your vids and vods. I do not join your stream, I am not a stream watcher. I love your wow content, and as someone also in their 30s who has played wow since day 1. It's a great channel 10/10 recommend.
So, when Zeroji dinged the servers had been up by almost 5 days. That's ~120 hrs of server uptime. Of those 120hrs he spent 94 hours ingame and 26 hrs out of game. Assuming he went to bed immediately every time he slept an average of 5 hrs per night. But probably he slept even less, because of the need for other stuff like food. That's crazy!
Okay so it looks like you end a duel you end up with 1hp that pops to 40hp for some safety reason? Anyways...i wouldn't take the risk to bring my charracter on HC to 40hp in any circumstance like life tapping, dueling, jumping of cliffs, etc... Knowing anything can end you off in just a sneeze is 1. Then if this game bugs out or anything aint like it how it was in vanilla like mobs and you being able to shoot true three's and pillars which don't LOS stuff or monsters not being slowed by your frostbolt effect because it just doesn't seem to apply on a target with cone of cold on him since that one is doing more slow but when it runs out your target is completely free of slow effects and then again your frosbolt effect will apply again then you will die in the game just like this guard finishing him off since.....he's a guard what would he have done with full hp against it without petri? Idd dieng aswell.... The game is in so many way's unviable to play HC in my opinion so yeh i will keep having fun at people there dissapointment in there face or something you know it will come. Did i ever told you what the definition of insanity is? :p
I played hundreds of hours of Hardcore prior to the Official servers. No one could ever convince me to give the "Official" servers a chance. In my time on unofficial Hardcore I had three Disconnects, two resulting in deaths. Both deaths were simply ignored because I streamed my entire playthrough to RUclips and uploaded footage proving that the Disconnect was not on my end, my stream never even faltered, yet Blizzards archaic second rate servers still booted me for no good reason. I love playing Hardcore, but fighting against Blizzards servers is not something I'm interested in. And the attitude Blizzard took, trying to tell us that appeals would be impossible when the community that made Hardcore popular was somehow able to manage appeals without even being funded? So a billion dollar company can't do what a handful of unpaid nerds can do? Nope. That's a lie. Blizzard lied to peoples faces. They could have just said "We're not going to do appeals, we don't want to spend the money on staff, we just want to take your money and not provide customer support" and I would have respected them more. The fact that they tried to say it was IMPOSSIBLE when it clearly wasn't impossible? That was the final straw for me with Blizzard. I've been playing Hardcore on private servers since. Not paying a dime to Blizzard, and not once having a Disconnect on a private server that routinely has over 4000 people online. Deaths to bugs and disconnects should 100% be appealable and it would not take much effort for Blizzard to have a small team dedicated to going over those deaths and ensuring it's managed legitimately. They refused to offer customer support, telling us that is impossible-- so I'll never give those scumbags another cent of my money. I genuinely cannot wrap my head around how the Official servers even became popular. It was just a cash grab by Blizzard, stealing content that the community made, making it worse, and destroying the community that made it popular in the first place all at once.
@@EndbossProductions I mean to be fair, it would probably take more effort than that, but they're a billion dollar company they can afford it so I agree with you regardless.
@@EndbossProductions Check out Turtle WoW, dumb name but it's a solid server, routinely 4000 online, I'm playing Hardcore there, it's closer to the Addons ruleset than the rather loose Official server ruleset. There are no appeals, but I've also never disconnected. They manually check any medium to large sized gold transaction. They actually hunt down botters. It's a great server-- but it's also not strictly traditional Classic, they play it off as Classic+. There is added content, and they have tweaked class balance a bit, with the aim of keeping the feel of Classic, but also helping increase class and specialization viability on underperforming specs. There's also added quest content, which blends extremely well into the typical leveling experience, as well as custom Professions, and they've added Karazhan to Vanilla. That sounds like a lot of changes, but each individual change is relatively small, like the class balance changes aren't outrageous.
@@derekjanisch584 I dunno, the only drama I remember regarding that was the end game HC raiding scene. They would have more flexibility at that point-- and the appeals would be handled by the Guilds instead of by the actual HC addon team. While leveling though the appeals were public. You could see everyones appeals in the Discord server. I never saw anything questionable-- but yeah, as far as level 60 HC raiding, it did get a bit questionable at times. And there were people manipulating the addon itself. I died and made an appeal because I had been disconnected-- and someone DMd me offering to take my addon files and go in and "fix" it for me so it would count. That said, I seem to remember the HC team finding out about that, and leaving traps in the code. There were people on my server that dinged 60, said their Addon showed it as successful, but the team that handled the verifications never verified them as successful. But sure, I can definitely agree that no system is perfect. Dying to every janky ass server Disconnect on Blizzards servers is far less perfect though. I'm playing on Turtle WoW right now, have a good amount of hours into it, haven't had a single DC. When I played on Blizzards servers I had several DCs in the same time span. Turtle WoW doesn't have appeals, and I'm fine with that because I'm not getting disconnected on a semi-regular basis lol. Oh and as far as "perfect" goes, Ascension figured that one out imo. If you Disconnect on that server, you just get ported to a Inn. If I remember correctly though, it only worked if your hearthstone was off cooldown, so people couldn't abuse it to get free ports, and it also sent you to the closest inn, and not where your hearthstone was set. Ascension is classless WoW though, very very different from Classic WoW lol. But yeah, between Ascensions system, the HC addon teams appeal process, and Turtle WoWs stability, I have zero interest in ever giving Blizzard money to play HC. They failed in my eyes, completely. Hobbyists solved the problems that a billion dollar company can't seem to fix. To me that is just insane.
not agree, leveled 2x aoe mages without death - oh well one drowned crafting mooncloth (i was that gnome in darnassus :'D) - and never played classic before that at all. just dont do stupid decisions..
As someone who loves aoe grinding and has leveld like loads of mages 3 in classic all woth aoe grinding it is definitely akill... And its not easy whwn you get to end game and solo zf one wrong move you die
A KNOWN issue. Fancy Blizzard not fixing this shit!!! WTF BLIZZZ!! Sort yr fekkin shit out already. U had plenty of warning, and thousands of HC players ready to beta test all your shit, and yet, yr like naaaah, who cares, let it slide lol. Lame. Lamel. Lame.
People flaming that mages are ez mode dont get how hc works, never made it to 60 and think everyone who has cheated some way. The hardest part of hc is the early levels. Mage doesnt have shit till 20s to actually aoe farm efficiently and they are insta dead to casters (early) and alwaye to dc. People look at warrior and think shit is hard. Its not. You are strong early on, don't really die to dcs since you aa and if you pick the safe route you cant die anyways
The problem with all these streamers is none of them know how to play, they are all so used to hand outs and hard carry's, that they think they are actually good at the game because it was easy when you got everything handed to you on a platter, kinda like when asmongold plays.
So regarding the first clip. This has been a known bug in wow since 04. Pets stay in combat for a coupl frames after the duel is over and a bleed or dot on them will still trigger and flag you to the guards.
Corrupted blood ❤
the shaman critting pikaboo through the bridge killed me
Swifty being so bad but also being one of the best OG vanilla players ever is so funny
He was never good 😆. He just made entertaining videos. I know because we used to beat him often in duels and arena. Shout out to OG Dark Spear and Dara Mac
He is very innovative, thinks of weird ideas to try out and get ahead of others. But skill wise he might not be the best haha
looks almost intentional ... "let just die and get this shit over with ..."
or did he start a new character afterwards?
@@derekjanisch584there's a high chance you are not actually anybody who has beaten swifty haha, but if you are, interesting!
@ I was server first ArenaMaster on Dark Iron WOTLK. We had SK gaming on our server. We then as a group went to Darkspear when they allowed race changes. Swifty was a Darkspear OG. I played Warrior back then and have forgotten more about Arena than most will ever know.
Mizkif's death is the WHOLE reason, I went to Tirisfal, and did enough quests to get to friendly. Because Undercity guard's are Neutral to Orc's, Tauren's, and Trolls.
Also he never rended the pet, it wasn't targeted *once* in that. It's purely cause a dot hit a friendly horde character. Then the UC affiliated guard's, due to the Neutral, did what Booty Bay bruisers would do.
Partial bug, partially due to coding.
Just make sure you're friendly with UC.
Doing their questchain from the starting zone, all the way until you leave Tirisfal got my Troll to friendly, and I like... breathed a sigh of relief lol.
or you just dont duel near guards or mobs
@@RealCecilion or blizzard can use some of that brutosaur cash to fix 20 year old bugs
@@casko9626I mean you could just play a version of wow that you don’t die and lose all ur time if a glitch happens , but more power to you .
@@casko9626 This comment is honestly so fucking funny
mizkif is the reason i dont watch only fangs the kid is a tool
Literal Wrathgate shenanigans coming from the Forsaken.
Pika doing everything is his ability to try and live was so funny to me haha, those low level shamans be kickin ass! and yes, there's a low lvl quest that gives you 2 swiftness pots on the horde side lol idk about alliance probably the same
Xaryu gonna win a razzie acting like he hadn’t seen the mizkif clip already
Just so everyone knows.. all of your favorite streamers and/or youtubers, watch everything. Stop being ignorant about that. You won't be a good streamer WITHOUT doing your homework. You HAVE to prewatch stuff to make sure it's OK in the first place
Lol you give them way to much credit @@Travar1410
@@Travar1410 this isn't true, most of them have mods/editors that will check the validity of content before hand. Sure some people probably prewatch but it would be way to obvious if the content creator prewatched the content. Lets stop acting like these streamers are award winning actors that can somehow prewatch hundreds of hours of content and then react to them like its some first time reaction without ever slipping up. It's so obvious that they just have other people check the content for them before hand, there is also different types of content that is more risky then other, not all content needs to be prewatched.
Ahh yes because you’ve watched it that means everyone else has too
@@Travar1410 lol... no? that's not how it works...
first of all... why would you have to prewatch something? if it's ok for youtube TOS it's 99% gotta be ok for twitch TOS.
also: there's mods, chat, friends etc.
also: they can skim through it on a second screen.
why are you trying to "explain" stuff you don't know sh*t about? i don't get it...
I too almost died on my level 23 lock to the refugees, I was taking the camp of 3 which were all green to me so I thought I was good and the guy on the horse spawned right on my head, I have no idea how I lived, Popped hp stone and lesser hp pot and this level 25 tauren hunter SAVED MY ASS if that guy is watching I still freaking love you, man! :(
That's wild that Zeroji did it in like 94 hours. Amphy was on pace to do it in like 64 hours or something radiculous.
AoE grinding is high risk and high reward. To be able to do something that repetitive without ever getting mentally fatigued and messing it up...
That's a major skill.
Modern slaves playing a 20 year old kids game difficulty saying skill ^^ tx for the laughs
This is do much better than last time it was almost boring to watch it was just a case of the Streamers just got Mob Tagged to what lvl 40 & got given everything but this new time is so much better to watch where we are watching the Streamers playing the game
3:00 I AOE leveled my druid and it was wild. The line between life and death was tough to negotiate! You have to use the character's entire toolkit with the proper knowledge + execution
I love these videos so much.
Years ago I was doing a battleground, it ended in the middle of a fight and I got transported out. Was one shot by the guards in Dalaran.
Trigger happy Dalaran Police :D
They used a staff :(
Pika didn't apply the Hunter's Mark... and this make him lose
LOL! Beware the run from Tarejo to Crossroads!
*streamer dies*
Viewer: “he died for content.”
24:30 It's not really a bug. Mage jumped off so boss didn't have a path which caused it to reset/evade that in turn also resets threat levels. Tank couldn't gain threat fast enough and didn't taunt or taunt resisted. With high level regrowth crit it's no wonder the healer pulled agro.
That clip was a series of unfortunate events. Ultimately Mage should have watched his threat in the first place and not ripped but it's still tough.
16:48 This guy griefing Mizkif naming his char "youlostmaya" is something different. well said Xaryu this man needs love but also im scared how deep decency dropped these days.
people like that dont need any love, they know what they are doing. they are doing it to be a bad person. 0 love. some people cant be fixed so dont waste your time.
a perma ban is what this dummy need , that's straight up harassment / griefing / stream sniping and with a name like that its very clearly personal
and i say that while i dont care in either way about Mizkif ... just common decency
Who Maya?
Xaryu is a class act, what a chad.
Yeah curious about context on this one. If Maya is another player he accidentally let die or scouldn't help, it's funny. If it's like, a significant other or a child or someone that died IRL, that's psychopath territory.
I'm no boomer, but trying to come up with 400iq ways to turn/blink/without getting hit by the boss and having the warrior taunt is so extra when the alternative is just use 20 iq and not pull threat on a boss that 1 shots you. Poor healer caught a died as a stray - i feel for her
they're not discussing the 10 IQ play of not pulling threat because its understated and not even worth discussing
@@qq-jy3pewhy is it not worth discussing. If anything, it should be the main point, especially in hardcore.
people dont realize how much more cringe the first few horde zones are then the alliance, shit ton of places to fall, high level roaming pats, fast mobs, dense spawns, LOTTA CAVES)
also horde HAVE to run thru high lvl mobs to get to questing zones
It's been in the game forever for All i know, duelling a pet class can aggro neutral guards like the undead in Tarren Mill. I think because the pet remains in combat with it opponent for a tiny bit after duel or something. The lock 100 knew, he positioned himself in a way that he would stand close to a guard himself.
First time Miz wasn't at fault imo, it still was dumb theres plenty of mobs nearby he could get feared into with low hp
I think the issue is that only mages will get world firsts.
This server it was a hunter
The 91 crit Z axis thru the bridge was actually so cringe and unlucky, I'd be so mad.
The people who die looking at chat i have absolutely no remorse for, Thats basically crashing your car while looking at your phone
Except more dangerous!
Im leveling a mage in HC and thought about AOE grinding then I remembered how many times I died to random things when I AOE grinded in classic
Its frustrating to learn every single pull
Neutral NPCs. Same with Light's Hope Chapel, Everlook, Booty Bay and Gadgeztan.
yeee aoe grinding and boosting with mage is a fun learning curve - dungeons if u start learning i dont know how many 100 times i run back to dung from spirit healer :D
People are also dying a lot more cause its horde. Its so much harder than alliance.
why?
As someone who tried to learn aoe farming in Hc. It is so sketchy
Thats not bs thats what you get for dueling in the open world.😂😂😂
Oh wait that was a deathguard😮 that what u get when dueling a undead?😅
Idk how so people play with no nameplates especially in HC I always have them on just so I know what will aggro if I get to close to them
You're taking a chance with aoe grinding
dont duel pet classes anywhere near a town
it crazy how many people die before 20.
I think most people who suck die before 20 ...
The shaman not stopping tho when Pika agroed the wolf is dirty. I know thing anything flies, but not a true mok goes imo.
It's like Garrosh levels of shitty, having his weapon poisoned for the duel. (I think he KNEW personally. Cairne would have been a much better wafchief. >:( )
Mage isn’t one shot there… turn around and blink using your brain and you don’t even get hit lol
Only Gingi and Pika have properly set up cameras everyone else are playing with zoom in, idk how can they be aware of anything around them with that kind of view.
19:07 swifty was too busy trying to find where his hairline is.
HC Hype 💀
The only dead I wanted to see in Onlyfangs was Mingle :(
Ofc the shaman has a swiftness pot, is he just supposed to let pikaboo kite him for the whole duel? :D
that names was sad. sad sad sad
Most people that i know that talk shit on mage AoE grinding have done it in a more modern version of the game or with gear at level 60 and dont understand how close to death you are doing it at relevant levels in classic.
Those chatters never aoe grinded in classic before, hardcore or otherwise
Why does Xaryu gets less views compared to many other hc streamers but much better content ?
Not even in hardcore.. *hovers hardcore solo self found buff* The guy can even accept trades. XD
idc if it's classic, swiftness pot in a duel is cringe
I've been watching you for months, and I'm really not even sure how. I just sorta got recommended you, and I haven't subscribed until today, which is kind of funny. Because I watch so much of your vids and vods. I do not join your stream, I am not a stream watcher. I love your wow content, and as someone also in their 30s who has played wow since day 1. It's a great channel 10/10 recommend.
I have died twice both to DC pisses me off.
Don't dots continue for a tick after duel ends? Ahh it's the rend..same as dots
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So, when Zeroji dinged the servers had been up by almost 5 days. That's ~120 hrs of server uptime. Of those 120hrs he spent 94 hours ingame and 26 hrs out of game. Assuming he went to bed immediately every time he slept an average of 5 hrs per night. But probably he slept even less, because of the need for other stuff like food. That's crazy!
yeh; us gamers are a different breed
Ahmpy was on pace for 63 hours from launch
That prairie stalker griefd Pika Soo hard and he still almost came back and won.
17:36 in other games if you stream snipe and fried the steamer you get ban
Okay so it looks like you end a duel you end up with 1hp that pops to 40hp for some safety reason?
Anyways...i wouldn't take the risk to bring my charracter on HC to 40hp in any circumstance like life tapping, dueling, jumping of cliffs, etc...
Knowing anything can end you off in just a sneeze is 1.
Then if this game bugs out or anything aint like it how it was in vanilla like mobs and you being able to shoot true three's and pillars which don't LOS stuff or monsters not being slowed by your frostbolt effect because it just doesn't seem to apply on a target with cone of cold on him since that one is doing more slow but when it runs out your target is completely free of slow effects and then again your frosbolt effect will apply again then you will die in the game just like this guard finishing him off since.....he's a guard what would he have done with full hp against it without petri?
Idd dieng aswell....
The game is in so many way's unviable to play HC in my opinion so yeh i will keep having fun at people there dissapointment in there face or something you know it will come.
Did i ever told you what the definition of insanity is? :p
That was wild!!!
NO MITCH JONES IN ONLYFANGS HUGE L
Why are you laughing at other peoples deaths when yours was still the best? "that's so cringe" lolol
17:20 what is he talking about
pika needs a swing timer he missed probably 30 autoshots by running too far before stopping
Do these streamers just all live together?
LOL the chat thought Knut was Swifty.
Is Esfand washed?
Always was
I played hundreds of hours of Hardcore prior to the Official servers. No one could ever convince me to give the "Official" servers a chance. In my time on unofficial Hardcore I had three Disconnects, two resulting in deaths. Both deaths were simply ignored because I streamed my entire playthrough to RUclips and uploaded footage proving that the Disconnect was not on my end, my stream never even faltered, yet Blizzards archaic second rate servers still booted me for no good reason.
I love playing Hardcore, but fighting against Blizzards servers is not something I'm interested in.
And the attitude Blizzard took, trying to tell us that appeals would be impossible when the community that made Hardcore popular was somehow able to manage appeals without even being funded? So a billion dollar company can't do what a handful of unpaid nerds can do? Nope. That's a lie. Blizzard lied to peoples faces. They could have just said "We're not going to do appeals, we don't want to spend the money on staff, we just want to take your money and not provide customer support" and I would have respected them more. The fact that they tried to say it was IMPOSSIBLE when it clearly wasn't impossible? That was the final straw for me with Blizzard. I've been playing Hardcore on private servers since. Not paying a dime to Blizzard, and not once having a Disconnect on a private server that routinely has over 4000 people online.
Deaths to bugs and disconnects should 100% be appealable and it would not take much effort for Blizzard to have a small team dedicated to going over those deaths and ensuring it's managed legitimately. They refused to offer customer support, telling us that is impossible-- so I'll never give those scumbags another cent of my money. I genuinely cannot wrap my head around how the Official servers even became popular. It was just a cash grab by Blizzard, stealing content that the community made, making it worse, and destroying the community that made it popular in the first place all at once.
I played unofficial hardcore as well and there was a ton of shady resurrects for people in the club. So no system is perfect here.
"a small team dedicated ..."
Dude .. it would take 1 guy working 2 hours a day to clean the servers from gold botters .. and nothing happens
@@EndbossProductions I mean to be fair, it would probably take more effort than that, but they're a billion dollar company they can afford it so I agree with you regardless.
@@EndbossProductions Check out Turtle WoW, dumb name but it's a solid server, routinely 4000 online, I'm playing Hardcore there, it's closer to the Addons ruleset than the rather loose Official server ruleset. There are no appeals, but I've also never disconnected. They manually check any medium to large sized gold transaction. They actually hunt down botters. It's a great server-- but it's also not strictly traditional Classic, they play it off as Classic+. There is added content, and they have tweaked class balance a bit, with the aim of keeping the feel of Classic, but also helping increase class and specialization viability on underperforming specs. There's also added quest content, which blends extremely well into the typical leveling experience, as well as custom Professions, and they've added Karazhan to Vanilla. That sounds like a lot of changes, but each individual change is relatively small, like the class balance changes aren't outrageous.
@@derekjanisch584 I dunno, the only drama I remember regarding that was the end game HC raiding scene. They would have more flexibility at that point-- and the appeals would be handled by the Guilds instead of by the actual HC addon team. While leveling though the appeals were public. You could see everyones appeals in the Discord server. I never saw anything questionable-- but yeah, as far as level 60 HC raiding, it did get a bit questionable at times.
And there were people manipulating the addon itself. I died and made an appeal because I had been disconnected-- and someone DMd me offering to take my addon files and go in and "fix" it for me so it would count. That said, I seem to remember the HC team finding out about that, and leaving traps in the code. There were people on my server that dinged 60, said their Addon showed it as successful, but the team that handled the verifications never verified them as successful.
But sure, I can definitely agree that no system is perfect. Dying to every janky ass server Disconnect on Blizzards servers is far less perfect though. I'm playing on Turtle WoW right now, have a good amount of hours into it, haven't had a single DC. When I played on Blizzards servers I had several DCs in the same time span. Turtle WoW doesn't have appeals, and I'm fine with that because I'm not getting disconnected on a semi-regular basis lol. Oh and as far as "perfect" goes, Ascension figured that one out imo. If you Disconnect on that server, you just get ported to a Inn. If I remember correctly though, it only worked if your hearthstone was off cooldown, so people couldn't abuse it to get free ports, and it also sent you to the closest inn, and not where your hearthstone was set. Ascension is classless WoW though, very very different from Classic WoW lol.
But yeah, between Ascensions system, the HC addon teams appeal process, and Turtle WoWs stability, I have zero interest in ever giving Blizzard money to play HC. They failed in my eyes, completely. Hobbyists solved the problems that a billion dollar company can't seem to fix. To me that is just insane.
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More proof pika has to get carried, too many steps between autos
Yeah, that doesn't look fun at all.
not agree, leveled 2x aoe mages without death - oh well one drowned crafting mooncloth (i was that gnome in darnassus :'D) - and never played classic before that at all. just dont do stupid decisions..
You gotta stop uploading things twice
As someone who loves aoe grinding and has leveld like loads of mages 3 in classic all woth aoe grinding it is definitely akill... And its not easy whwn you get to end game and solo zf one wrong move you die
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A KNOWN issue. Fancy Blizzard not fixing this shit!!! WTF BLIZZZ!! Sort yr fekkin shit out already. U had plenty of warning, and thousands of HC players ready to beta test all your shit, and yet, yr like naaaah, who cares, let it slide lol. Lame. Lamel. Lame.
Btw the girl at the end ran like the mage did. Not saying she did anything wrong but just saying the mage didnt wanna run into the boss like Xar said.
how can streamers be so bad at this game - I feel sad for guys that DC, but sloppy play - come on
People flaming that mages are ez mode dont get how hc works, never made it to 60 and think everyone who has cheated some way.
The hardest part of hc is the early levels. Mage doesnt have shit till 20s to actually aoe farm efficiently and they are insta dead to casters (early) and alwaye to dc.
People look at warrior and think shit is hard. Its not. You are strong early on, don't really die to dcs since you aa and if you pick the safe route you cant die anyways
You’re stream saying he fishing for clout, 🤣 calling a multi R1 blizzcon champion enjoying some classic wow some of y’all your viewers are cringe asf
Bro they are best friends lol
this guy has an extremely annoying voice
Look at these rank one pvp idiots who can’t even play HC. Skill issue
The problem with all these streamers is none of them know how to play, they are all so used to hand outs and hard carry's, that they think they are actually good at the game because it was easy when you got everything handed to you on a platter, kinda like when asmongold plays.