The Stickney Murderess
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- The Stickney Murderess
News of the Times Episode 335 | 1869
It is 1868 Stickney in Lincolnshire and Priscilla Biggadike and her alleged lover, lodger Thomas Proctor stand accused of the murder of her husband, Richard.
The couple, with three children, have had a notoriously explosive relationship - well known within the community and there is no doubt that Richard has been purposefully murdered by arsenic.
But who did it?
This case has become famous over the years with many a romantic theory. We take a look at the background, the evidence, the case and the post script of the Stickney Murderess in today’s episode of Murderous Mondays.
Hosted by Robin Coles.
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This is a great way to chill on a Sunday...thanks for the hard work you guys put into these videos!❤👍
Our very great pleasure! Really glad you enjoyed it!🙏
Robin, you have a lovely, calming speaking voice... I like listening to you.
Thank you - most kind! I am able to put people to sleep when I talk all around me!😉
Wow!.. good one Robin. The thought of sharing a room with strangers and my spouse is just awful. However, this was the need for so many poor people, even to this day. Cheers! from NJ on a Sunday night
Top of the morning to you NJ! Yes, that is fairly sad that one's survival is sharing a 1 bed with 3 children and two strangers. You could see that something would break. Earlier accounst state that the couple were happy befopre the lodgers arrived. We are not sure. Happier, possibly, but it sounded troubled. She was a fiery lady. 🤔
Thanks Robin Great Story
Thank you - much appreciated!🙏
This was a very intriguing and yet horrific story of a poisoning murder of Priscilla's husband, Richard. The fact that they had a volatile relationship is an understatement, period! Priscilla also stated to people that she wanted to see her husband dead. The circumstantial evidence about who poisoned Richard was why I believe Thomas wasn't charged with the horrific murder of Richard. Priscilla paid the ultimate price in the end. Do you know whatever happened to Priscilla and Richard's three children? Great investigation, presentation, backstories, illustrations, photos, and videos, too. Take care 🦋
Sadly no - we don't know what happend to the children - probably the workhouse, bless them. Since about the 70's there has been a tendency to look back on cases and re-write them. The stories then become repeated and end up almost being considered a fact. Looking at cases of women being prosecuted and then re-writing the story to show that they were wrongfully convicted is a thing. Or romanticising the story to make it more interesting. So, in the re-written history, as far as we can etll, Proctor gives a death bed confession and and takes the blame of the poisoning clearing Priscilla and she is posthumously cleared. There is absolutely no evidence of this and, with her own confession of having fed food and drink with known whte powder to her husband, she would have been found guilty anyway. The Achill story also had additions added to it afterwards to make for a better story. Odd. It is this which intrigued us to take another look at Crippen. Sorry - we know you look fuller pictures, so thought we would give the background!😉
My mother, born in 1924, used to put a small amount of arsenic in water and drink it. She said she was told as a young girl that it made her hair look better. When our family Dr. found out he looked like he was going to have a stroke! He told my mother to stop immediately. I have no idea if she did or not. She died in 1969 from a terrible auto accident. Other than being a smoker most of her life she was in the best health possible. My how times have changed!!
Wow! That is so interesting! We know that arsenic was used frequently in water as a skin toner and also that some used it as a sexual stimulant, but never heard about the hair. My yes, how things have changed! How did she manage to get hold of it?🤔
The prevalence of taking lodgers is something that seems to have fallen out of custom and judging by the number of murders where lodgers were involved or simply present as witnesses that’s not a bad thing.
😁Beware the evil lodger! It was said that the couple were happy before the lodgers arrived. We are not so sure - perhaps happier! It sounds like Priscilla would have found someone else to hang out with if not the lodger. It just sounds awful. Existing rather than living. 🤔
I don't know that I enjoyed the story, but I was certainly absorbed by it. Thank you. We will all have our opinions as to whether or not Priscilla had the intention, in the moment or premeditated, to harm or kill her husband. I'm left thinking about her & her children, and about her poor dead husband.
Thank you - we very much appreciate your observations. 🙏
As a channel, we strive to give a variety of stories to give a fuller picture of the times back then. This is why we are keen to include lesser known stories, that involve those from the poorer economic classes which rarely received prominence in the papers..
As researchers, we regularly see attamepts to change history - either because it makes for a better story, or to support some point such as women were constantly being executed when really it was the man's fault. There were, of course, many times where a miscarriage took place, And we agree that sometimes a woman was charged more on her perceived behaviour than possibly the crime itself. (maybrick immediatley springs to mind), But in general, no. From trial records and evidence produced, we generally feel, with some exceptions, that the proof of guilt, within the limited forensics of the time, is proven,. One point that is easily forgotten in many of the historical cases - the neighbours! Better than any neighbourhood watch these days - people in comunities watched each other and knew what was going on for the most part. We see this come up agan and agan - the neighbours knew what was going on well before police become involved. Interesting! Thank you🙏We veryt much appreciate your feedback.🙌
This one inspired three immediate thoughts: Once again, Swaine Taylor ties it all up with a bow. It was too bad for Priscilla that the Billingtons and Pierrepoints had yet to come along and see her out properly. And heaven pity those poor children.
Three perfect thoughts! 👍Marwell, the executioner following, was supposed to be quite good. Yes, the children. It is always the children who seem to take the brunt of things...Thank you 🙌
BLIMEY!! The Biggadikes seemed to have quite a volatile relationship!! It must've been made worse by having to share a room with the two lodgers as well as their three kids!! There was no privacy and no escape from all that angst and tension!! SOMETHING was bound to happen, sooner or later!!
I wonder what happened to the poor Biggadike children?! I'm hoping they were taken in by some kind relatives, and weren't sent to the workhouse!!
Well done on yet another INTRIGUING story, Robin!! 💞❤💕👍👏
Yes - 7 people all stuffed into one small 1 bedroom hovel - tough one. We do not know what happened to the children, bless them. Similar to the Achill Atrocity there are lots of non-evidential stories surrounding this case. We can find no evidence whatsoever of Proctor making any kind of death bed confession - although it makes for a good story. The Achill atrocity was the same - later stories making out that there was a romance going on, but really zero evidence. We find it really interesting - this re-writing of hsitory to make a better story...
@@newsofthetimes I honestly don't think Priscilla was happy in her marriage even before the lodgers moved in!! The presence of the lodgers just exacerbated an already tense situation!!
It really didn't help Priscilla's case that she had repeatedly told people that she wished Richard dead!! There's no smoke without fire, right?! Even if she wasn't guilty, the fact she LITERALLY spoke those fateful words would make people think otherwise!!
There were a LOT of botched executions in those days, weren't there?!🤔🤔😱😱
@@nadiabrook7871 You are right - there were A LOT of botched executions back then. We did an episode on this including one were the head was actually decapitated in the process and fell down onto the spectators below. We agree - we think she probably was quite unhappy already and we thik she was guilty despiet the attempts at posthumous re-writes. Ummm, be careful what you wish for??🙄
@@newsofthetimes I think she was guilty too!!
The worse botched execution I've heard of is that of the Duke of Monmouth by a guy called Jack Ketch (I think)!! Apparently, that was quite a grisly affair!!😱😱
@@nadiabrook7871 That was a very grisly affair! We covered that one and many more! You might be interested? Some quite good ones...ruclips.net/video/CdRFl4ajEHg/видео.html 😉
wonder why she would not confess at the end if she were guilty...no chance of escaping death.
Excellent question! and one reason that there has been created a mythology around the case. Our theory - she is not educated and possibly does not really understand that even if Proctor was the one who put the powder into the drink and medicine, she actually saw it, agreed, and fed it to her husband. In the eyes of the law she would be considered as guilty as Proctor. We also think she was of a fiery and stubborn temperment! It is possible as well, although we think it unlikely, that she did not confess completely to attempt to avoid the reputation as a confessed murderess that would spill over to her children. Possible, but we do not think likely. We think the first theory is the reason. She died a very hard death, bless her.😔
When you are annoyed with Rats,you better possess ....😮!Be reasonable, a good 19th century female must be able to take care of businesses, right? 😊❤
Not sure rats would have any room in that small space with seven people!😉 Arsenic seemd to be the thing that everyone had on hand. Convenient. 😉
Thank you. Enjoyed. Have a most excellent week ahead, everyone.
And to you and yours!🙌