I’ve spent countless thousands of hours with Diablo 1 - Diablo 3 playing solo. I bought D2 many times, including D2R. I enjoy playing at my pace. I generally always use „/players 8“ while playing D2 / D2R. Immortal forces me to play with people that I don’t know and who don’t care to know me. There is no real bond formed while playing. It’s is an artificial way to „encourage“ people to play together.
I did the same with D1 and it was the social interaction that made it all worthwhile (and the simplified gameplay) but that all ended when the mass cheating started and people just cheated their way to success. Immortal would be based on who has the most money to spend. Legalized cheating.
Focus on creating your warband. Then work with a clan to help further self beyond. But warband should be your main friends or new friends you meet in game
@@mellixmellilarrington6085 town Portal server world's end clan. Our warband is full up I am in though. But the clan is a top 10 and we all just play to enjoy the game. We do not compete with the whales.
My clan also became immortal and the first week was so exciting but I'm starting to see a change in behavior more or a less power trips that officers have since they are p2w. As a f2p I feel like I'm in a pyramid scheme just contributing so the higher ups can do what they want.
New to f2p games? That's how things works in them, f2p players are there to make p2w players feel superior, either by curbstomping them in pvp or have them beg you to carry in pve, or in a shorter term "plebs are in f2p games to be whale food"
With the knowledge that this game pulls this kind of social setting, why take it serious then? Just play the game to enjoy it. Treat it like a game, not a job. If ur reply would be "but the fans are already so engrossed in the series its hard to do". Well then have fun beating ur head against the wall. Y'all kinda do this to urselves, stressing about being the best or getting the best gear when the game ain't designed to be enjoyed. Its meant to be a time sink. We know this game is promoting an unhealthy mindset. Why act surprised when its not working out for u?
Biggest problem is if you help friends with lassal 1 or 2 you get that scortia and it locks out rewards from higher levels, so you need to do max raid first otherwise you lose scortia.
I feel strongly that the way this game was built, it brings out a lot of selfishness in people. It's very clear once you're an immortal where a lot of activities are group-based and require coordination. You start to see people going for whatever is good for themselves rather than the entire group. Then there's f2p vs P2W. No one cares about you when you're f2p. P2W players usually group with each other and as a f2p I get left out because I don't have the gems to compete. You see this with elder rifts where someone with just one legendary crest will refuse to start a rift because none else has a legendary crest. This happens very often on my server. Moreover, when you are an immortal, the only reason the clan keeps f2p around is to help earn essentia since there aren't enough whales to go around or be bothered doing that. It's the classic serf system. We just need to remember that it's designed this way to encourage you to spend money. If game progression isn't enough, a more compelling force would be peer acceptance. But at the end of the day, who is the real sucker? A bond forged through trials and tribulation is always better than those paid by cold hard cash. Once your credit card maxes out, you'll just be like one of us.
just quit this bullshit end tormenting yourself like i did...you become just a p2w punchbag as a f2p player...and you will never ever reach them!it makes no sense to play this bullshit there are better games out there people...wake up...
Yeah, I felt so upset when my clan leader decided he didn’t want to play anymore because we lost Shadow War, so I had to hope one of the bigger clans would take me in (and they’re becoming picky with their members now).
@@Waaaaaaha396 The actual Immortal that's allied with my clan won't take you if your cr is below 1900. So if I get kicked out of my clan I can't even rejoin the Immortals I'm only cr 1840
Maybe I’m doing something wrong, but the chat interface for PC users is horrible - my skills are bound to numbers 1 - 5 and I have to mouse click out of zone chat to talk with my party - move my fingers to ASDF and then chat there - by the time I do this I’m thanking an empty party for a ‘good game.’ 🤣
"There is no way for my char to catch up in a fast enough way" - I do know about a way that could catch you up to your stronger mates. But that involves transferring some real life currency from your personal account to blizzard's
@@DragonkinMetals agree...ignore the haters of game. They just mad that blizzard said fine you want to pay your way you paying us your life savings lol....or you can do like us hardcore players have always done..grind grind grind and ohhh yea guess what grind some more lol.
@@lloydmartin8748 proud to grind and waste your time in a game that does all it can to make you grind harder and harder to tempt you into paying money. That's not being a hardcore gamer, that's just sad af.
We didn’t even realize the game had released until almost 3 weeks in. No chance at even getting into a shadow guild because we’re so far behind the required CR or paragon level being posted. Ironically people were complaining in chat last night that the server appeared to be dying. /shocked face At this point the kids already quit after only a couple days of playing. Husband and I probably won’t last much longer either. We have more fun in D3.
Don't they have new servers, where you can start at the same time with others? Also if you're behind server paragon, you will get huge xp boost. I got like 10 lvls of paragon in 1 day just doing dailies.
The server I'm on is pretty dead. I'm in immortals and 3/4 don't do daily goals everyday. We don't even have 300 people in immortals. There's maybe 2 or 3 decent shadow clans left.
Are you serious right now? Ask in World chat for a shadow invite. Once you're a shadow, spend the 30 minutes to rank up and unlock shadow clans. Apply to 5 or so. Boom. You'll be in a shadow clan within an hour.. :/
5/8 of my warband quit the game. First the free to play players quit due to the whales. The then whales quit due to the few mega whales making them have buyers remorse. Then the rest quit due to no communication from Blizzard, no updates, and spooning/bots. Marketed as an MMO, but in reality it is a money grab gatcha game.
@@foureight84 Megashield is an Arabian princes son or something. This is all pocket change to him. He does this with a lot of gacha games. When Immortal dies he will find a new game to whale. He is a well known giga whale in at least 5 other games.
the multiplayer aspect of this game is only there to make free to play or low payrate player feel weak or in better words to feel the pressure. nothing more.
I'm at 1870cr as full f2p no battlepass as a barbarian and I literally get one shot at 60 challenge rift and only just beat path of blood 30 because of how much damage I take from the 3 ashen marauders even with high cr its embarrassing that people can spend even a slither to push so far in content. I'm continuing my grind eitherway as I compare myself to others around my resonance to see were I stand. 315res atm...
I have difficulty even getting people in a party in the same zone long enough to get the daily gems people only seem to join parties for dungeons and even then often waiting a while for a full party
I know that I may not be the only one. But our Shadow Clan Leader was late by 1 minute from joining the War on Saturday. This caused our clan to lose cause there is no action. There needs to be a way to delegate this.
Thx 4 this. I´ve experienced the athmosphere as almost "toxic" at times...not to mention the prepubescent and unregulated chat...^^ I´ve already quit this BS two weeks ago at Para 14. I don´t think, that there is any "Incentive", Blizz can possibly bring up, which will bring me back to this game, since it has originally never been made for players like me. Iam back at D3 now and hope for the best in terms of a proper S27-theme. ;-). Best!
I got kicked from my immortal clan when I had to go on vacation for 4 days. This after I had let everyone know and was told it wasn't an issue. Frustrating that poor game design leads to such.
That’s because you need to take the initiative and make your own active warband. I had the same problem but i was lazy about it. I just actively search for people, set a time to raid and said if they dont show up, there getting kicked. Then everyone showed up and we got all the rewards for all 3 raids. If you think you’re going to magically going to get in a warband and everyone is going to get on with no coordination, good luck.
being immortal feels more like a punishment than a reward, the vault que system is completely disgusting, with almost the same rewards, Kion is basically shadow war in terms of rewards, assembly is expedition but assembly is 10 times better because first of all you didn't have 30min limit to do it, is boring, again same rewards, happens in the middle of vault so the shadow can raid your entire vault while you're doing, so pretty much you have to either skip it or let your vault get raided (i haven't done it for 2 weeks) , the items from vault require paragon level waaay to high, first was 62, now is 76, some people are saying that next week it'll he 94... plus i the top contributor of my class (rank 8 so i could pick up to 2 items) and what i got was 1 requested item, and the other one was a random yellow trash item, contracts = goals, the hilts trader was the only thing that i was looking forward as immortal, to get ONE legendary crest extra PER MONTH, but turns out you need to hit gold 3 to have access to it, so we're talking about a month? or more? it's just so so soooo bad... and after i got a taste of that, got me thinking, if this is the end-game content which should be fun and competetive and with a lot of rewards, but instead is all the opposite, what does Diablo Immortal have left to offer if the end-game is the worst content of the entire game?
I’m at 60/51 right now as f2p. Cr 1700 all my gems are 1 or 2 star. I feel like I do barely any damage once I’m grouped up with the people who have spent money. So you end up getting messages saying that you’re being removed because they have a friend who has spent money to take my place. Makes grinding hard in h2 since you need a full party to farm dungeons to try and get better set items.
I’m finding that as a F2P I have less of a chance to participate in any raid just because of the power difference. But not complaining too much understanding this game is meant to be a P2W game. Still fun as long as I keep playing casual.
Your points are great and the game is lacking quite a bit in the social level However i have both seen and been in groups where we run dungeons and open world with peoples alts or newer members on a higher difficulty to boost them. That is the only thing doable, otherwise social aspect is rather crappy
Ya it sucks when non-paying players are not only completely restricted from playing with their paying buddies but then also the power difference between paying players and free players is absolutely insane! Oh wait, you were talking about DI and not Destiny 2, my bad.
actually i can't do challenge rifts because the game puts me always together with players of different levels. for example a player with no paragon and one with 20. that really makes no sense.
CR from gems is actually not all that much. I have pretty damn good gems, but they only make up 15% of my total CR. And as I level up, my CR from upgrades and gear gains will outpace my gem upgrades because the gem upgrades are getting really expensive now. I think the biggest issue is that so many players don't understand CR and don't do things like upgrade their gear or helliquary in order to get more CR. I largely agree with everything else, though I think 100 slots in a clan is plenty.
Diablo Immortal is a throwaway game to kill time and ensure the success of Diablo IV. Blizzard intends to keep the community with its mind occupied in the saga until its next installment comes out. When The 4 comes out, no one will remember the Immortal
Agree in particular with the point on different power levels not being able to play with each other meaningfully. I love that in D3: even if I am hundreds of hours into a season, I can still quickly level and gear a friend in an hour or two to play support for me and actually be helpful to the group. Can't do that in D:I, can't in lost ark, and I've been told you can't in PoE either. I hope there will be a way to do this in D4.
@@Brainless420 Really? My PoE friends told me that unless I play as much as them, then we can't really play together, but that was many years back. So I can get a support power-level relatively quickly and be helpful even in end-game content together with a group of much stronger friends? Might just drop diablo entirely if that's the case. It doesn't seem like PoE is much of a team game at all really, mostly see people play solo.
Not sure if mobile the same but on pc when I click "clan" all I get is a page that says clan name, leader and the cheesy slogan the leader wrote. There is no members list am I right or doing something wrong? WOW was a lot of fun running with the guild on your specific nights. Diablo 3 you always are more than happy to help an up and coming friend or guild member as you may just have a rift partner later on. D2 you make friends trading, partying while leveling, and even pvp. Personally I know DI is the best mobile game we have and sets the bar on what "could" be done. So much to fix and honestly hope it all gets sorted. I hope well for the game but honestly just looking forward to D4. Keep up the good work bro, thanks for the videos.
whats with the other server parties that show up on party finder? you cant join them, and all it does is stall dungeons and think your joining but your not and cant :/
Question so if I have. 972 chest triple stat and I pick up a 1072 chest but only double stat is the 972 actually better what does that number even mean
Diablo has never been a MMO before, it has always been a solo friendly game first and then multiplayer friendly. The introduction of MMO to Diablo is not a fun one... It punishes you if you are a solo grinder so to speak. i have literally had to wait over a half an hour just to get in to a dungeon because there is a min player requirement to enter. the warband raids are just a joke, so much time is wasted by just getting a group going. Hope the MMO in D4 is not like this
Someone invited me to a warband, then he tried to make a run and invited us (we're 10-12 in the group, I clicked "yes" and both of us were there while several minutes. I made two rifts (I never played D3, so I barely know how it works, so I clicked "yes"), it was fun, but most players are going their own way. I'm really playing this game because I like the lore, I skipped D3 due to several disagreements I have with Blizzard (but it's irrelevant), I'm thinking on buying the bundle with D2R because I love D2 and I played the demo or D3 and it's not that bad.
@@MrlspPrt I also love the Diablo lore and I'm not saying that the "MMO activities" as I like to call them, are bad or whatever... Other than doing the few solo things like bounties and so on which are limited per day, there's really nothing else you can do solo... unless you go to the lowest difficulty in which you will never progress because you won't get your level of loot, set items can only be found in dungeons in which you have to play with others at higher difficulties... It sucks, can't wait for the new season of D3 to come out so I can stop playing immortal
Diablo 2 had a decent multi-player setup. At least you could post a game with a specific purpose and let people join. So finding a game that you were interested in was easier. You could also join a lower difficulty game and drop higher end loot in town. There seemed to be way more people willing to help level newer players. Diablo 3 does not have multi-player logic. Join a GR game and they are running bounties, join bounties and they are running cow level, join any game and every one is hanging out in town......I prefer single player 90% of the time so not a huge problem for me but there is serious room for improvement.
Combat Score System sucks. 10 years ago when i played a lot of MMOs on pc you could at least beat stronger monsters if you were skilled. You also took more dmg because higher monsters were obviously stronger. And they had more health ofc but you did not get like a 90% penalty. The game just sucks everywhere. Dunno why people still play the game. I disagree with the clan stuff you have said. Thats how it has always been and it make sense that people group together who have the same goals.
Biggest issue I have with this game. Starting playing with my friends at the same time, but we are all over the place level and power wise. We basically don't play with each other anymore. Sucks.
My warband today kicked me out because I wasn't on for Lassal 3 I was helping a family member but they didn't know and didn't care. The leader then told me the person was just a temporary fill in but I told him it was okay and he tried to reinvite me but there's no point. When something happens in my life and I can't get on he'll kick me again they expect you to forgo real life to be on when they're ready to run lassal 3. I'd rather play alone I do best in rpgs alone but this isn't that and it was made this way purposely.
I thought I was alone in being unable to get a warband going. I keep recruiting and no one ever Fucking responds. We could be getting that juicy warband chest loot and the bonus lassal loot but no one gives a fuck. Despite me trying to chat up the warband every day and encourage group play. It’s been incredibly frustrating
I am lucky I am part of the aftershock group, our attendance is around 75% over 3 clans, my warband raids twice a week. Our community is pretty good, server seems strong still. There are huge issues with the game, p2w is gross, pvp is broken, lack of content, tired of the redundant road blocks.
Maybe this happened already but it might be good to pin an update on previous posts defending the F2P model. Thanks to you and the team for your honesty. I’ve made my donation towards the Maxroll team.
And that's what makes it so unfair for pro players and content creators to play the same games that just regular people play we all wanted to be like it was in the old days those days are gone
Glad 😀 you said what I been thinking 🤔…. Treating allies very poorly but like you said need 91 players online at specific time frame and I don’t think is possible for one clan so ally clans will save Immortal clan in clutch situations!!! But as in life they’re many toxic players…I think got better rewards as Shadow.
Absolutely in terms of being able to even recieve the rewards shadows are better. The vault as an immortal is retarded we cant do anything until and if shadows raid the vault and then only one 4 player group at a time and our immortals are "forcing" a line so basically if the best 25 players don't choose you you are going in alone and the odds of you walkin out with a win just forces you to completely stop vault. Only thing i do is follow the dailies slowly climb the bg ranks and then back to blasting. I work alot so im not online consistantly enough to even try having a "time zone" that i play in which further forces me out of some timed events.
Hey all just wanted to say be careful in diablo immortal right now ive been playing on PC and hit paragon 48 logged in yesterday and was at paragon 43 and then logged in today and at paragon 42. I have a support case open but watch your progress!! Im even losing gear/items from these paragons im losing. Dunno whats up right now.
I get legendary gems without spending money, obviously slower than paying but I get them and make them. I earn hilts and get them (the crests) from hilt trader
@wudijo Clan size and interactions as in D. Imo. is standard for a mobile game. Many clans in mobile games have external platforms like Discord etc. to establish solid communication. You should always keep in mind that it's just a mobile game and that's all it is. Just because it comes with the support to play it on the computer, it keeps the features of a mobile game. A comparison to computer MMO's is not possible, it's a different World. The comparison to mobile MMO's does, and it's just average in comparison. Everyone who uses P2W is "stupid" for me or has a big "wallet", so he don't care. If I pay $20-$50 to support a developer, I'm fine with that, because that's how much you would pay to buy a PC game. But that's just my opinion.
The first I did after 1h of gameplay disabling all chats. After playing some days i selected some chats like shadow, zone ,world and went straight back to disable after seeing ppl trying to make a name on the server with their stupidity. Rly cancer to read it. With the special kind of players nowadays i rly dont feel that i miss anything super social. Trying to be one of the powerful players as plan has to just enter that sad PVP. To play it casual and not being bound to ppl or that pleb warbands its a okayish game.
100 people clans are way too big imo, we have a core group of 10-15 active people that chat and that I do stuff with, then around 40 active people who never say anything and the rest is just fluctuation, 5-10 people leaving and new ones joining each day. Kinda feels like a workplace where you only know and hang out with the same 3% of people lol
Just discovered i am FORCED to party to do dungeons above normal difficulty. This is so stupid that i can't even believe someone thought it was a cool idea. The game for me ends here unless they revert this stupid requirement. STOP FORCING PEOPLE TO GROUP TO PLAY GAMES FFS. Let just ssf people that want to be ssf. I hate HAVING TO rely on others to enjoy MY time in-game.
1000% correct! Pvp is BROKEN. The system in general needs work. Now I've dumped years into games like marvel strike force. If they update this game in anyway shape or form as most mobiles do, the issues should resolve. It's just getting thru the hard times
that concept u just said bro why would they go back...i tell u why brother if server paragon is 18paragon under the server leader that means that person isnt efficien farming mobs and getting 40% of exp, give it 2months and people will understand
Warbands… I’m not using it. I don’t have 7 buddies that play at the same time I do and frankly I also don’t want to be “bound” by it to log in every day at the same time. Clans…. I’ve played in raid progression clans and there was always limited spots that were refreshed frequently. The turnover was less than in Diablo Immortal but still, you want active people playing/ increasing their stats to progress. If that is not a suitable requirement, I suggest joining a casual guild that has lower/ no requirements to its members. One thing I find very tedious as immortal is vault defense. As there is no proper queuing system in place… people have to spam the same button for 4h a day without being able to do anything else. That’s just a bad system. Allow queuing for vault so people can still grind while waiting for joining and aren’t forced to the vault entrance.
i pretty much am going to make my own friends group and use alts against the terms and agreement but who cares when everything they offer is free to sign up
exatly. its mobile game how the f i have to play nonstop whit someone else... can go dungeon because theres no bonus drops and noone go there. very stupid design
Another thing is there are no real puzzles or mysteries or anything. I think mobile games get boring mostly because they are designed to do a walkthrough. It is just doing the same thing over and over again, and just following instructions without any thinking.
Really enjoyed my time as a F2P player who is not into pvp and couldnt care less about leaderboards but ive hit a wall at paragon 47 and no motivation to keep playing, gameplay wise its the best diablo game but thats where it ends for me sadly.
I hate the social side of all Diablo games! Prefer to solo everything, Nomatter how long it takes me to grind the gear needed. With this one it's even worse, Constantly fighting others over a simple mob spawn just to get some monster kill xp, There is not enough areas or monsters. I found a hell 2 lair, My gear is decent but F2P invited others to join. I was only a 2 paragon levels behind this one player, Lair was difficult for 3 of us but this one player was rushing forward and destroying everything including boss before we even got a chance to hit anything, Clearly P2W character with high level gems.
i been trying to tell other shadows that being am immortal isnt all as great as it sounds. a whole lot of bs and effort for the same rewards. the devs wanted a balance so either side wouldnt feel like their time is wasted. its just a glory role.
I’ve been watching your videos for sometime now, but today I realised that we actually play on the same server. Only realised this because I noticed the names jogi and zmart. I’m currently sitting at rank 43 on the Necro leaderboard, think I’ve spent about £120 ish on just buying the special deals. I did get pretty lucky with my gems though and even got a 3/5 star gem.
@@mike4617 I was just throwing in my 2 cents. I was suprised I haven’t seen him around after playing on the server quite a lot and I’ve played with a few of the challenge rift pushers
@@wudijo hey dude I appreciate the response, I do have a question actually. What is your take on melee vs range classes? To me it seems melee are crazy strong in pvp in comparison to ranged classes, ofc with how the gems are it’s kind of hard to tell how powerful a class really is
combat rating actually make items stats to not matter. when you are below required crfor an actuvity you get destroyed anyway whatever stats you have or skills to play. cr nullify the rpg in this game.
Idk. Kinda disagree. I know a large majority of the players on my server, have friends across multiple shadows, immortals and adventurer clans and this the voice chat and messaging works ok. Maybe I'm just on a good server but there's a lot of community in this game
p2w ruins odds for everything, as fairly f2p shouldn't the immortal gear go to the lowest combat point people in clan alliance to raise everyone.. idk there is alot messed up i dont agree with
Talking with people in the game is fun to me. My clan always on so it's easy to find players to party up with. Some are higher then others lv, CR, Rés. But i have 80 members that will help on any hell lv.im in hell 3 and i don't mind helping my clan get there too. I hear a lot of story's of people dropping from the game. But i guess they are all not on my server. LoL thank God. I'm free to play like you. No money. My clan is top immortals on the server. Some members have paid for gems yes.but most don't. ..i guess we have more adults here and know how to not spend money and still have fun together. I have to say they need to fix some of these bugs. But playing as ashadows are better if your Solo. Having more then 100ppl in a clan.. is crazy to me. The leaders will just pick who he/she likes most and leave the others out.thats toxicity at its max. I've talked to a lot of PC players and they say all of you are like that. LoL sorry PC guys out there.
I totally agree the system of paragon seperate people.. i can do hell3 now but im so alone no one can do it yet and its bad. Both side are losing, whales cant find groups and f2p cant play with their strong friends without permanently die. Its badly made.
this kind of game is not for cp it takes many of hours to spend of this kind of game.you need to be active to gain more combat rating this game is not recommend for casual player who spend more hours on works like me.its better if they put auto attack so some of player who had work can play with others.
Man, this game has no social aspect, it is built just for the shop and to manipulate people to visit the shop and spend cash. This game is really not worth anyone's time.
This "game" is not supposed to have social aspects. it is build to create social pressure which can be solved by spending money
Bingo!
I’ve spent countless thousands of hours with Diablo 1 - Diablo 3 playing solo. I bought D2 many times, including D2R. I enjoy playing at my pace. I generally always use „/players 8“ while playing D2 / D2R. Immortal forces me to play with people that I don’t know and who don’t care to know me. There is no real bond formed while playing. It’s is an artificial way to „encourage“ people to play together.
I did the same with D1 and it was the social interaction that made it all worthwhile (and the simplified gameplay) but that all ended when the mass cheating started and people just cheated their way to success. Immortal would be based on who has the most money to spend. Legalized cheating.
Focus on creating your warband. Then work with a clan to help further self beyond. But warband should be your main friends or new friends you meet in game
Not to mention it's also a game specifically designed to milk you for all you're worth. See Bellular's videos on this topic. It's deeply troubling.
@@lloydmartin8748 ill be glad to join when i install ill leave a name r something
@@mellixmellilarrington6085 town Portal server world's end clan. Our warband is full up I am in though. But the clan is a top 10 and we all just play to enjoy the game. We do not compete with the whales.
My clan also became immortal and the first week was so exciting but I'm starting to see a change in behavior more or a less power trips that officers have since they are p2w. As a f2p I feel like I'm in a pyramid scheme just contributing so the higher ups can do what they want.
New to f2p games? That's how things works in them, f2p players are there to make p2w players feel superior, either by curbstomping them in pvp or have them beg you to carry in pve, or in a shorter term "plebs are in f2p games to be whale food"
Your feeling is warranted.
With the knowledge that this game pulls this kind of social setting, why take it serious then? Just play the game to enjoy it. Treat it like a game, not a job.
If ur reply would be "but the fans are already so engrossed in the series its hard to do". Well then have fun beating ur head against the wall.
Y'all kinda do this to urselves, stressing about being the best or getting the best gear when the game ain't designed to be enjoyed. Its meant to be a time sink.
We know this game is promoting an unhealthy mindset. Why act surprised when its not working out for u?
luckily I'm friends with those big shots otherwise I won't be immortal 😎🤣
Biggest problem is if you help friends with lassal 1 or 2 you get that scortia and it locks out rewards from higher levels, so you need to do max raid first otherwise you lose scortia.
oh yeah totally forgot to mention this... same happened to me one week, too xD
@@wudijo This isn't true for warbands, you can collect scornia on all levels with warband raid
I feel strongly that the way this game was built, it brings out a lot of selfishness in people. It's very clear once you're an immortal where a lot of activities are group-based and require coordination. You start to see people going for whatever is good for themselves rather than the entire group. Then there's f2p vs P2W.
No one cares about you when you're f2p. P2W players usually group with each other and as a f2p I get left out because I don't have the gems to compete. You see this with elder rifts where someone with just one legendary crest will refuse to start a rift because none else has a legendary crest. This happens very often on my server. Moreover, when you are an immortal, the only reason the clan keeps f2p around is to help earn essentia since there aren't enough whales to go around or be bothered doing that. It's the classic serf system.
We just need to remember that it's designed this way to encourage you to spend money. If game progression isn't enough, a more compelling force would be peer acceptance. But at the end of the day, who is the real sucker? A bond forged through trials and tribulation is always better than those paid by cold hard cash. Once your credit card maxes out, you'll just be like one of us.
"Evil is everywhere!"
@@Dimothein it is the game's main plot isn't it?
Sounds like Twitter's NFT accounts grouping together and bragging about how much they can spend while mocking people who can't, nor care about it.
Just don’t be poor
just quit this bullshit end tormenting yourself like i did...you become just a p2w punchbag as a f2p player...and you will never ever reach them!it makes no sense to play this bullshit there are better games out there people...wake up...
The moment i learned that being in a clan can literally keep you from joining Shadows if clan leader doesnt submit those signets...
Yeah, I felt so upset when my clan leader decided he didn’t want to play anymore because we lost Shadow War, so I had to hope one of the bigger clans would take me in (and they’re becoming picky with their members now).
@@Waaaaaaha396 The actual Immortal that's allied with my clan won't take you if your cr is below 1900. So if I get kicked out of my clan I can't even rejoin the Immortals I'm only cr 1840
they should change the lassal party system....its hard to get 8 people
Maybe I’m doing something wrong, but the chat interface for PC users is horrible - my skills are bound to numbers 1 - 5 and I have to mouse click out of zone chat to talk with my party - move my fingers to ASDF and then chat there - by the time I do this I’m thanking an empty party for a ‘good game.’
🤣
I just deleted my character and feel nothing, like at all.
"There is no way for my char to catch up in a fast enough way" - I do know about a way that could catch you up to your stronger mates. But that involves transferring some real life currency from your personal account to blizzard's
Credit card theft could be another way.
I just made a level 60/50 crusader in 3 days.... my main is 60/58 DH. Leveling is super easy fast
F2p
@@DragonkinMetals agree...ignore the haters of game. They just mad that blizzard said fine you want to pay your way you paying us your life savings lol....or you can do like us hardcore players have always done..grind grind grind and ohhh yea guess what grind some more lol.
@@lloydmartin8748 proud to grind and waste your time in a game that does all it can to make you grind harder and harder to tempt you into paying money. That's not being a hardcore gamer, that's just sad af.
We didn’t even realize the game had released until almost 3 weeks in. No chance at even getting into a shadow guild because we’re so far behind the required CR or paragon level being posted. Ironically people were complaining in chat last night that the server appeared to be dying. /shocked face
At this point the kids already quit after only a couple days of playing. Husband and I probably won’t last much longer either. We have more fun in D3.
Stop lying.
Don't they have new servers, where you can start at the same time with others? Also if you're behind server paragon, you will get huge xp boost. I got like 10 lvls of paragon in 1 day just doing dailies.
The server I'm on is pretty dead. I'm in immortals and 3/4 don't do daily goals everyday. We don't even have 300 people in immortals. There's maybe 2 or 3 decent shadow clans left.
Are you serious right now? Ask in World chat for a shadow invite. Once you're a shadow, spend the 30 minutes to rank up and unlock shadow clans. Apply to 5 or so. Boom. You'll be in a shadow clan within an hour.. :/
5/8 of my warband quit the game. First the free to play players quit due to the whales. The then whales quit due to the few mega whales making them have buyers remorse. Then the rest quit due to no communication from Blizzard, no updates, and spooning/bots. Marketed as an MMO, but in reality it is a money grab gatcha game.
And then there was only one left, megashield. Cursed to run elder rifts by himself, forever.
lmao @foureight84
@@foureight84 lmao
@@foureight84 Megashield is an Arabian princes son or something. This is all pocket change to him. He does this with a lot of gacha games. When Immortal dies he will find a new game to whale. He is a well known giga whale in at least 5 other games.
This sound like real life, which when playing a game you are trying to escape from it.
the multiplayer aspect of this game is only there to make free to play or low payrate player feel weak or in better words to feel the pressure. nothing more.
another reason to play the campaign then delete it forever
The campaign isn't even good, better not install it at all
Might as well just watch someone's compiled like hour/hour and a half long lore video on immoral and call it a day.
I'm at 1870cr as full f2p no battlepass as a barbarian and I literally get one shot at 60 challenge rift and only just beat path of blood 30 because of how much damage I take from the 3 ashen marauders even with high cr its embarrassing that people can spend even a slither to push so far in content. I'm continuing my grind eitherway as I compare myself to others around my resonance to see were I stand. 315res atm...
IMO, it's to create peer pressure to keep people online, who feel held back on progression by artificial caps, and then are more likely to buy shit.
I have difficulty even getting people in a party in the same zone long enough to get the daily gems people only seem to join parties for dungeons and even then often waiting a while for a full party
I know that I may not be the only one. But our Shadow Clan Leader was late by 1 minute from joining the War on Saturday. This caused our clan to lose cause there is no action. There needs to be a way to delegate this.
Thx 4 this. I´ve experienced the athmosphere as almost "toxic" at times...not to mention the prepubescent and unregulated chat...^^
I´ve already quit this BS two weeks ago at Para 14. I don´t think, that there is any "Incentive", Blizz can possibly bring up, which will bring me back to this game, since it has originally never been made for players like me. Iam back at D3 now and hope for the best in terms of a proper S27-theme. ;-). Best!
I quit at paragon 30 after a paragon 1 whale obliterated me in PvP 😂💔
I got kicked from my immortal clan when I had to go on vacation for 4 days. This after I had let everyone know and was told it wasn't an issue. Frustrating that poor game design leads to such.
im para 50 and still stuck in the mission of do the forgotten tower with a warband lol i just cant find an active warband 😂
Literally just need this notification to go away 😂😂😂
That’s because you need to take the initiative and make your own active warband. I had the same problem but i was lazy about it. I just actively search for people, set a time to raid and said if they dont show up, there getting kicked. Then everyone showed up and we got all the rewards for all 3 raids.
If you think you’re going to magically going to get in a warband and everyone is going to get on with no coordination, good luck.
being immortal feels more like a punishment than a reward, the vault que system is completely disgusting, with almost the same rewards, Kion is basically shadow war in terms of rewards, assembly is expedition but assembly is 10 times better because first of all you didn't have 30min limit to do it, is boring, again same rewards, happens in the middle of vault so the shadow can raid your entire vault while you're doing, so pretty much you have to either skip it or let your vault get raided (i haven't done it for 2 weeks) , the items from vault require paragon level waaay to high, first was 62, now is 76, some people are saying that next week it'll he 94... plus i the top contributor of my class (rank 8 so i could pick up to 2 items) and what i got was 1 requested item, and the other one was a random yellow trash item, contracts = goals, the hilts trader was the only thing that i was looking forward as immortal, to get ONE legendary crest extra PER MONTH, but turns out you need to hit gold 3 to have access to it, so we're talking about a month? or more? it's just so so soooo bad... and after i got a taste of that, got me thinking, if this is the end-game content which should be fun and competetive and with a lot of rewards, but instead is all the opposite, what does Diablo Immortal have left to offer if the end-game is the worst content of the entire game?
I’m at 60/51 right now as f2p. Cr 1700 all my gems are 1 or 2 star. I feel like I do barely any damage once I’m grouped up with the people who have spent money. So you end up getting messages saying that you’re being removed because they have a friend who has spent money to take my place. Makes grinding hard in h2 since you need a full party to farm dungeons to try and get better set items.
I’m finding that as a F2P I have less of a chance to participate in any raid just because of the power difference. But not complaining too much understanding this game is meant to be a P2W game. Still fun as long as I keep playing casual.
That's the key, just playing casual
Your points are great and the game is lacking quite a bit in the social level
However i have both seen and been in groups where we run dungeons and open world with peoples alts or newer members on a higher difficulty to boost them. That is the only thing doable, otherwise social aspect is rather crappy
Ya it sucks when non-paying players are not only completely restricted from playing with their paying buddies but then also the power difference between paying players and free players is absolutely insane!
Oh wait, you were talking about DI and not Destiny 2, my bad.
Can't even begin to compare the 2 imho...different leagues buddie.
Power gaps create social gaps is 100% facts! Even f2p grinders can be leagues ahead of pay to winners
actually i can't do challenge rifts because the game puts me always together with players of different levels. for example a player with no paragon and one with 20. that really makes no sense.
CR from gems is actually not all that much. I have pretty damn good gems, but they only make up 15% of my total CR. And as I level up, my CR from upgrades and gear gains will outpace my gem upgrades because the gem upgrades are getting really expensive now. I think the biggest issue is that so many players don't understand CR and don't do things like upgrade their gear or helliquary in order to get more CR. I largely agree with everything else, though I think 100 slots in a clan is plenty.
Well get some rank 10 5 stars not rank 3 1star 😂😂
@@gvido2923 I have 3 3/5 star gems of various ranks, plus a couple 2 stars in the 5/6 rank range, and a rank 10 1 star.
@@gvido2923 My gems total just under 350 CR and as I said, that's only about 15% of my overall CR
Diablo Immortal is a throwaway game to kill time and ensure the success of Diablo IV. Blizzard intends to keep the community with its mind occupied in the saga until its next installment comes out. When The 4 comes out, no one will remember the Immortal
guild cap is to make it so the immortals can be overthrown i think. so the immortals do not recruit all or a majority of the whales.
Agree in particular with the point on different power levels not being able to play with each other meaningfully. I love that in D3: even if I am hundreds of hours into a season, I can still quickly level and gear a friend in an hour or two to play support for me and actually be helpful to the group. Can't do that in D:I, can't in lost ark, and I've been told you can't in PoE either. I hope there will be a way to do this in D4.
You can do it in poe
@@Brainless420 Really? My PoE friends told me that unless I play as much as them, then we can't really play together, but that was many years back.
So I can get a support power-level relatively quickly and be helpful even in end-game content together with a group of much stronger friends? Might just drop diablo entirely if that's the case.
It doesn't seem like PoE is much of a team game at all really, mostly see people play solo.
@@ChristofferFlensburg Oh no. i understand you wrong. I thought you said more powerful friends cant come help you. sry
Not sure if mobile the same but on pc when I click "clan" all I get is a page that says clan name, leader and the cheesy slogan the leader wrote. There is no members list am I right or doing something wrong?
WOW was a lot of fun running with the guild on your specific nights. Diablo 3 you always are more than happy to help an up and coming friend or guild member as you may just have a rift partner later on. D2 you make friends trading, partying while leveling, and even pvp.
Personally I know DI is the best mobile game we have and sets the bar on what "could" be done. So much to fix and honestly hope it all gets sorted. I hope well for the game but honestly just looking forward to D4.
Keep up the good work bro, thanks for the videos.
needing 91 players is just crazy.. people had trouble making 40 player raids in Wow... and that's so much bigger game.
whats with the other server parties that show up on party finder? you cant join them, and all it does is stall dungeons and think your joining but your not and cant :/
Question so if I have. 972 chest triple stat and I pick up a 1072 chest but only double stat is the 972 actually better what does that number even mean
Diablo has never been a MMO before, it has always been a solo friendly game first and then multiplayer friendly. The introduction of MMO to Diablo is not a fun one... It punishes you if you are a solo grinder so to speak. i have literally had to wait over a half an hour just to get in to a dungeon because there is a min player requirement to enter. the warband raids are just a joke, so much time is wasted by just getting a group going. Hope the MMO in D4 is not like this
Someone invited me to a warband, then he tried to make a run and invited us (we're 10-12 in the group, I clicked "yes" and both of us were there while several minutes. I made two rifts (I never played D3, so I barely know how it works, so I clicked "yes"), it was fun, but most players are going their own way.
I'm really playing this game because I like the lore, I skipped D3 due to several disagreements I have with Blizzard (but it's irrelevant), I'm thinking on buying the bundle with D2R because I love D2 and I played the demo or D3 and it's not that bad.
@@MrlspPrt I also love the Diablo lore and I'm not saying that the "MMO activities" as I like to call them, are bad or whatever... Other than doing the few solo things like bounties and so on which are limited per day, there's really nothing else you can do solo...
unless you go to the lowest difficulty in which you will never progress because you won't get your level of loot, set items can only be found in dungeons in which you have to play with others at higher difficulties... It sucks, can't wait for the new season of D3 to come out so I can stop playing immortal
@@MrlspPrt D3 is excellent
We call that "inflation" Power Creep. It's a part of most games like this. Where you level up. Very difficult to keep under control, too.
i cant get past cr 54, im f2p and its gonna take me a while to get past that... but i agree social gaps are unfortunately inevitable.....
Diablo 2 had a decent multi-player setup. At least you could post a game with a specific purpose and let people join. So finding a game that you were interested in was easier. You could also join a lower difficulty game and drop higher end loot in town. There seemed to be way more people willing to help level newer players. Diablo 3 does not have multi-player logic. Join a GR game and they are running bounties, join bounties and they are running cow level, join any game and every one is hanging out in town......I prefer single player 90% of the time so not a huge problem for me but there is serious room for improvement.
There is communities to find people for specific activities in D3, you know
Combat Score System sucks. 10 years ago when i played a lot of MMOs on pc you could at least beat stronger monsters if you were skilled. You also took more dmg because higher monsters were obviously stronger. And they had more health ofc but you did not get like a 90% penalty.
The game just sucks everywhere. Dunno why people still play the game.
I disagree with the clan stuff you have said. Thats how it has always been and it make sense that people group together who have the same goals.
Biggest issue I have with this game. Starting playing with my friends at the same time, but we are all over the place level and power wise. We basically don't play with each other anymore. Sucks.
It’s almost like it’s intentionally designed that way to pressure people into spending
Clans have a very small limit. Also, clans cost money to start. 🤔
How do you not have at least 1 triple from vault?
My warband today kicked me out because I wasn't on for Lassal 3 I was helping a family member but they didn't know and didn't care. The leader then told me the person was just a temporary fill in but I told him it was okay and he tried to reinvite me but there's no point. When something happens in my life and I can't get on he'll kick me again they expect you to forgo real life to be on when they're ready to run lassal 3.
I'd rather play alone I do best in rpgs alone but this isn't that and it was made this way purposely.
I thought I was alone in being unable to get a warband going. I keep recruiting and no one ever Fucking responds. We could be getting that juicy warband chest loot and the bonus lassal loot but no one gives a fuck. Despite me trying to chat up the warband every day and encourage group play. It’s been incredibly frustrating
How about the bug when shadows face immortals on 4th floor in vault? They can't be targeted. Nothing have been done to fix it or plans for it.
you are absolutely right about all this. DI is unplayable as a multiplayer game.
Don't you guys have friends?
Man this game was an effin dissapointment
The April Fools' joke are you.
- Blizzard, probably.
I mainly only communicate with my clan mates…they chill :).
I am lucky I am part of the aftershock group, our attendance is around 75% over 3 clans, my warband raids twice a week. Our community is pretty good, server seems strong still.
There are huge issues with the game, p2w is gross, pvp is broken, lack of content, tired of the redundant road blocks.
Yep im also in aftershock 😂
Players (mostly pros) should've boycotted the game rather than fall into it. Especially those who "Experimenting p2w system" hypocrisy
This is a design feature, it’s to create peer pressure to spend money to keep up with your friends.
That channel game name looks familiar from some older games
times are different
now players only bond based on the $ u spent in game
*Whisper*
"Because Diablo is a better single player experience."
At 8:54 is it actually written ... Stay aWhale & Listen? :)
Still has immortal ad on channel lol
Should have been on Albrecht. We have an amazing server. Always lots of people. Great Immortals and Shadows factions. Truely an awesome community.
Maybe this happened already but it might be good to pin an update on previous posts defending the F2P model. Thanks to you and the team for your honesty. I’ve made my donation towards the Maxroll team.
And that's what makes it so unfair for pro players and content creators to play the same games that just regular people play we all wanted to be like it was in the old days those days are gone
Glad 😀 you said what I been thinking 🤔…. Treating allies very poorly but like you said need 91 players online at specific time frame and I don’t think is possible for one clan so ally clans will save Immortal clan in clutch situations!!! But as in life they’re many toxic players…I think got better rewards as Shadow.
Absolutely in terms of being able to even recieve the rewards shadows are better. The vault as an immortal is retarded we cant do anything until and if shadows raid the vault and then only one 4 player group at a time and our immortals are "forcing" a line so basically if the best 25 players don't choose you you are going in alone and the odds of you walkin out with a win just forces you to completely stop vault. Only thing i do is follow the dailies slowly climb the bg ranks and then back to blasting. I work alot so im not online consistantly enough to even try having a "time zone" that i play in which further forces me out of some timed events.
Hey all just wanted to say be careful in diablo immortal right now ive been playing on PC and hit paragon 48 logged in yesterday and was at paragon 43 and then logged in today and at paragon 42. I have a support case open but watch your progress!! Im even losing gear/items from these paragons im losing. Dunno whats up right now.
I get legendary gems without spending money, obviously slower than paying but I get them and make them. I earn hilts and get them (the crests) from hilt trader
@wudijo
Clan size and interactions as in D. Imo. is standard for a mobile game. Many clans in mobile games have external platforms like Discord etc. to establish solid communication.
You should always keep in mind that it's just a mobile game and that's all it is.
Just because it comes with the support to play it on the computer, it keeps the features of a mobile game. A comparison to computer MMO's is not possible, it's a different World. The comparison to mobile MMO's does, and it's just average in comparison.
Everyone who uses P2W is "stupid" for me or has a big "wallet", so he don't care.
If I pay $20-$50 to support a developer, I'm fine with that, because that's how much you would pay to buy a PC game.
But that's just my opinion.
The first I did after 1h of gameplay disabling all chats. After playing some days i selected some chats like shadow, zone ,world and went straight back to disable after seeing ppl trying to make a name on the server with their stupidity. Rly cancer to read it. With the special kind of players nowadays i rly dont feel that i miss anything super social. Trying to be one of the powerful players as plan has to just enter that sad PVP. To play it casual and not being bound to ppl or that pleb warbands its a okayish game.
The coolest MMO experience I had was Anarchy online and second life.
100 people clans are way too big imo, we have a core group of 10-15 active people that chat and that I do stuff with, then around 40 active people who never say anything and the rest is just fluctuation, 5-10 people leaving and new ones joining each day. Kinda feels like a workplace where you only know and hang out with the same 3% of people lol
Just discovered i am FORCED to party to do dungeons above normal difficulty. This is so stupid that i can't even believe someone thought it was a cool idea. The game for me ends here unless they revert this stupid requirement.
STOP FORCING PEOPLE TO GROUP TO PLAY GAMES FFS. Let just ssf people that want to be ssf. I hate HAVING TO rely on others to enjoy MY time in-game.
1000% correct!
Pvp is BROKEN.
The system in general needs work.
Now I've dumped years into games like marvel strike force.
If they update this game in anyway shape or form as most mobiles do, the issues should resolve.
It's just getting thru the hard times
I hope.
Til the. I'll grind daily and try to find a warband that's active
@@sitesdaniel1986 what's your server?
What is more recomendable? F2P Wizard or Crusader?
Wizard for cc and range. You'll get dumpstered being f2p melee
BS
I use crusader and they're pretty good
Get good noob
Don't install the game is recomendable
@@eilonz3333 Too late for that. Already got sucked in 😂. Now I'm stuck.
that concept u just said bro why would they go back...i tell u why brother if server paragon is 18paragon under the server leader that means that person isnt efficien farming mobs and getting 40% of exp, give it 2months and people will understand
Warbands… I’m not using it. I don’t have 7 buddies that play at the same time I do and frankly I also don’t want to be “bound” by it to log in every day at the same time.
Clans…. I’ve played in raid progression clans and there was always limited spots that were refreshed frequently. The turnover was less than in Diablo Immortal but still, you want active people playing/ increasing their stats to progress. If that is not a suitable requirement, I suggest joining a casual guild that has lower/ no requirements to its members.
One thing I find very tedious as immortal is vault defense. As there is no proper queuing system in place… people have to spam the same button for 4h a day without being able to do anything else. That’s just a bad system.
Allow queuing for vault so people can still grind while waiting for joining and aren’t forced to the vault entrance.
My friend and I stopped playing when it said we needed 8 people to continue
i pretty much am going to make my own friends group and use alts
against the terms and agreement but who cares when everything they offer is free to sign up
I have over a month of time played. Got my screenshots of being #1 in multiple ladder slots as F2P and now quit. :) GG
10:07 how we scroll in 2022
haha
exatly. its mobile game how the f i have to play nonstop whit someone else... can go dungeon because theres no bonus drops and noone go there. very stupid design
Another thing is there are no real puzzles or mysteries or anything. I think mobile games get boring mostly because they are designed to do a walkthrough. It is just doing the same thing over and over again, and just following instructions without any thinking.
Really enjoyed my time as a F2P player who is not into pvp and couldnt care less about leaderboards but ive hit a wall at paragon 47 and no motivation to keep playing, gameplay wise its the best diablo game but thats where it ends for me sadly.
I hate the social side of all Diablo games!
Prefer to solo everything, Nomatter how long it takes me to grind the gear needed.
With this one it's even worse, Constantly fighting others over a simple mob spawn just to get some monster kill xp, There is not enough areas or monsters.
I found a hell 2 lair, My gear is decent but F2P invited others to join.
I was only a 2 paragon levels behind this one player, Lair was difficult for 3 of us but this one player was rushing forward and destroying everything including boss before we even got a chance to hit anything, Clearly P2W character with high level gems.
And if the leaders isnt online in tbe wars its an instant loose XD
i been trying to tell other shadows that being am immortal isnt all as great as it sounds. a whole lot of bs and effort for the same rewards. the devs wanted a balance so either side wouldnt feel like their time is wasted. its just a glory role.
Get you hooked on social.. With an extreme heavy dose of social engineering, dividing into chaos of the lost.
I’ve been watching your videos for sometime now, but today I realised that we actually play on the same server.
Only realised this because I noticed the names jogi and zmart.
I’m currently sitting at rank 43 on the Necro leaderboard, think I’ve spent about £120 ish on just buying the special deals.
I did get pretty lucky with my gems though and even got a 3/5 star gem.
That’s nice but who asked
@@mike4617 I was just throwing in my 2 cents. I was suprised I haven’t seen him around after playing on the server quite a lot and I’ve played with a few of the challenge rift pushers
well hello ^^
@@wudijo hey dude I appreciate the response, I do have a question actually.
What is your take on melee vs range classes? To me it seems melee are crazy strong in pvp in comparison to ranged classes, ofc with how the gems are it’s kind of hard to tell how powerful a class really is
combat rating actually make items stats to not matter. when you are below required crfor an actuvity you get destroyed anyway whatever stats you have or skills to play. cr nullify the rpg in this game.
Idk. Kinda disagree. I know a large majority of the players on my server, have friends across multiple shadows, immortals and adventurer clans and this the voice chat and messaging works ok. Maybe I'm just on a good server but there's a lot of community in this game
9:32 Issue with the Clan
its some kind of competitive mmo does, like lineage series.
p2w ruins odds for everything, as fairly f2p shouldn't the immortal gear go to the lowest combat point people in clan alliance to raise everyone.. idk there is alot messed up i dont agree with
Talking with people in the game is fun to me. My clan always on so it's easy to find players to party up with. Some are higher then others lv, CR, Rés. But i have 80 members that will help on any hell lv.im in hell 3 and i don't mind helping my clan get there too. I hear a lot of story's of people dropping from the game. But i guess they are all not on my server. LoL thank God. I'm free to play like you. No money. My clan is top immortals on the server. Some members have paid for gems yes.but most don't. ..i guess we have more adults here and know how to not spend money and still have fun together. I have to say they need to fix some of these bugs. But playing as ashadows are better if your Solo. Having more then 100ppl in a clan.. is crazy to me. The leaders will just pick who he/she likes most and leave the others out.thats toxicity at its max. I've talked to a lot of PC players and they say all of you are like that. LoL sorry PC guys out there.
I totally agree the system of paragon seperate people.. i can do hell3 now but im so alone no one can do it yet and its bad. Both side are losing, whales cant find groups and f2p cant play with their strong friends without permanently die. Its badly made.
LOL is the most anti-social MMO I've played lmao. It's so antisocial that you'll actually begin to hate people
If it wasn’t annoying to chat would probly help. I hate that you have to come to a dead stop to type
If you're playing a game that exploitative, you deserve all you get. The second you discovered it was that play to win, you shoiuld have walked away.
we having fun in defending the vault...
this kind of game is not for cp it takes many of hours to spend of this kind of game.you need to be active to gain more combat rating this game is not recommend for casual player who spend more hours on works like me.its better if they put auto attack so some of player who had work can play with others.
Man, this game has no social aspect, it is built just for the shop and to manipulate people to visit the shop and spend cash. This game is really not worth anyone's time.