I run LiFePO4 with supercap . charging is similar but different voltage. same effect of pulling current up to final charge then drops very low. no out gassing . under normal charge/discharge. LTO battery's have around 20,000 cycle life at 80% DOD. around 2,000 cycle life for LFP and lead around 180 cycle life at 80 % DOD . some AGM better. Thank you for the alternator charging at idle. 73's
Something interesting and worth noting is that the reason alternators don't work well at low rpm is also the frequency of the ac being lower than optimum. The inductive reactance becomes lossier at these low rpms. Higher is probably better until mechanicals don't cope well or the internal capacitances take over. There are also obviously points of diminishing returns as well. In terms of charge current think about it this way. You have two voltages connected to each other with a pair of resistors in series that represent the battery's internal resistances and the charger or load's resistance. The current should be approximately the internal and wiring resistances divided by one voltage minus the other. As those voltages get closer to each other aka the batter charhes the current should go down as in this video.
Also because the chemical chemistry is LTO its the safest compound out there right now they don't blow up and don't catch fire unless maybe a dead short but for the cell it self it's fantastic
Hi Luke, Great info on using a PL-259 on the line section. Always had a problem working with the Amazon DC connectors with RG58. You and the family stay safe. 73 WJ3U
Hey howsit , I noticed you have played with 35ah and 45ah cells before, you mentioned the 35ah has a higher discharge rate ? Would this mean they have a lower internal resistance or are the resistance the same. And would pairing 45 ah cells in parallel with 35ah or 40ah cells prove problematic due to this .
You want to charge minimum on a 6s configuration 14.8v cause nominal voltage is 13.8v and I wouldn't recommend charging below 14.8v you'll see 60/65% of capacity because each cell is 2.8v max voltage which in 6s 16.8v
@Drago 710 you don't want to charge below 14.8 cause at nominal voltage 13.8v you don't have hardly any capacity and will see poor performance also yinglong says the 35ah cells have a max charge of 2.9v I can show you the spec sheet if you would like
@@justforlaughs8988 you were right I've since seen that yinlong rates their b cells up to 2.8v max so you were correct not sure why xs rates them at 2.7v? Maybe to be a little on safe side 🤔 I'm really very excitedly interested in getting 6 of the xs 45ah cells and making a battery for my suv.
I’m thinking of just using 5 of these cells instead of 6 since my car doesn’t go beyond 14volts. Like someone mentioned before 6s would only be getting to around 60% charge at that voltage so to work around my charging level I’m just going to remove a few cels from the equation I think it should work A ok
I never thought that a lithium battery can go on a car, how long can this battery stay charged? I have a car in another country, and I go there one time a year, and every time I buy a new battery because after 11 months the battery is dead, If I install one of these will it hold the charge? Thanks
Disconnect the battery when you leave, vehicles inevitably have a constant power draw. Think clocks possibly memory ect . They are small mostly unnoticed when used regularly enough. Simply removing the negative battery cable will keep it from draining lead acid or lto ( to an extent)
The alternator will continue to draw. There is no way around it. Your incorrect. Its common for half of a 160amp alt capacity to be eaten up by the truck just the operating normally. Leaving only 80 amps available to replenish the lithium bank. Or it can just overheat the alternator. Cease the fan belt and melt and break it.. Soo many things to consider and plan/worry about.
So I understand where you're coming from some of the versions of lithium batteries do explode and they're very dangerous and they require a lot of maintenance. The lto batteries that you're looking at in this video are not those. If you overcharge them they do not explode. If you puncture them they do not explode. If you damage them in any way they do not explode. And as far as I'm concerned those Optima batteries can be taking over and thrown in the trash have exactly 1/16 the storage capability and 1/16 the outrush capability. Lead-acid is dead in all of its forms. Please feel free to review any of the other battery videos that I put up documenting all of the facts stated above.
@@BoxBuilderIdaho i got booted off your Facebook for saying what you said in this video.. about toasting your alternator at an idle on a greatly depleted lithium bank. They would not listen. Admin got pissed and booted me. 🤦♂️
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One of the best lto videos for explanation 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I run LiFePO4 with supercap . charging is similar but different voltage. same effect of pulling current up to final charge then drops very low. no out gassing . under normal charge/discharge. LTO battery's have around 20,000 cycle life at 80% DOD. around 2,000 cycle life for LFP and lead around 180 cycle life at 80 % DOD . some AGM better. Thank you for the alternator charging at idle. 73's
Something interesting and worth noting is that the reason alternators don't work well at low rpm is also the frequency of the ac being lower than optimum. The inductive reactance becomes lossier at these low rpms. Higher is probably better until mechanicals don't cope well or the internal capacitances take over. There are also obviously points of diminishing returns as well.
In terms of charge current think about it this way. You have two voltages connected to each other with a pair of resistors in series that represent the battery's internal resistances and the charger or load's resistance. The current should be approximately the internal and wiring resistances divided by one voltage minus the other. As those voltages get closer to each other aka the batter charhes the current should go down as in this video.
Also because the chemical chemistry is LTO its the safest compound out there right now they don't blow up and don't catch fire unless maybe a dead short but for the cell it self it's fantastic
Hi Luke,
Great info on using a PL-259 on the line section. Always had a problem working with the Amazon DC connectors with RG58. You and the family stay safe. 73 WJ3U
Hey howsit , I noticed you have played with 35ah and 45ah cells before, you mentioned the 35ah has a higher discharge rate ?
Would this mean they have a lower internal resistance or are the resistance the same.
And would pairing 45 ah cells in parallel with 35ah or 40ah cells prove problematic due to this .
I love the 70ah and 80ah banks. Plan on building bigger ones to have plenty of reserve 👌
You want to charge minimum on a 6s configuration 14.8v cause nominal voltage is 13.8v and I wouldn't recommend charging below 14.8v you'll see 60/65% of capacity because each cell is 2.8v max voltage which in 6s 16.8v
There the range is listed at 2.3v-2.7v so 13.8v--16.2v is the range in a 6s configuration
@Drago 710 you don't want to charge below 14.8 cause at nominal voltage 13.8v you don't have hardly any capacity and will see poor performance also yinglong says the 35ah cells have a max charge of 2.9v I can show you the spec sheet if you would like
@@justforlaughs8988 you were right I've since seen that yinlong rates their b cells up to 2.8v max so you were correct not sure why xs rates them at 2.7v? Maybe to be a little on safe side 🤔 I'm really very excitedly interested in getting 6 of the xs 45ah cells and making a battery for my suv.
@@justforlaughs8988 yes send me what you've seen and if you know a spot to purchase the yinlong ones that would be awesome
I’m thinking of just using 5 of these cells instead of 6 since my car doesn’t go beyond 14volts. Like someone mentioned before 6s would only be getting to around 60% charge at that voltage so to work around my charging level I’m just going to remove a few cels from the equation I think it should work A ok
15v cold and 14.5v hot charging, would 5S work?
I never thought that a lithium battery can go on a car, how long can this battery stay charged? I have a car in another country, and I go there one time a year, and every time I buy a new battery because after 11 months the battery is dead, If I install one of these will it hold the charge? Thanks
Disconnect the battery when you leave, vehicles inevitably have a constant power draw. Think clocks possibly memory ect . They are small mostly unnoticed when used regularly enough. Simply removing the negative battery cable will keep it from draining lead acid or lto ( to an extent)
Quick tip: Play this back at 1.75x speed. Then it sounds normal :)
and what you think about 16.8V LTO 6S dedicated charger?
I’m getting 80 ah yinlong should I use my stock alt with 14.8 bypass or go with external regulator knob turn to ? ❤
Were you once a truck driver good sir?
Do you need a 16v charger to charge these to 15.90v 16.v ?
2.8v is max charge per cell so 16.8v would be the very most you don't want to charge under 14.8 in a 6s configuration
Think I am gonna stick to a super cap bank.i have a 250amp alt in my ride. I just wana be able to run a 16 pill.
The alternator will continue to draw. There is no way around it. Your incorrect. Its common for half of a 160amp alt capacity to be eaten up by the truck just the operating normally. Leaving only 80 amps available to replenish the lithium bank. Or it can just overheat the alternator. Cease the fan belt and melt and break it..
Soo many things to consider and plan/worry about.
Hahaha love the music!
what power supply do you have?
We run AGM Optima in Parallel...much safer they Never Catch Fire 🔥....Lithium catch Fire and its the End of your Truck ....And I Just Got Down !!!
So I understand where you're coming from some of the versions of lithium batteries do explode and they're very dangerous and they require a lot of maintenance. The lto batteries that you're looking at in this video are not those. If you overcharge them they do not explode. If you puncture them they do not explode. If you damage them in any way they do not explode. And as far as I'm concerned those Optima batteries can be taking over and thrown in the trash have exactly 1/16 the storage capability and 1/16 the outrush capability. Lead-acid is dead in all of its forms. Please feel free to review any of the other battery videos that I put up documenting all of the facts stated above.
@@BoxBuilderIdaho i got booted off your Facebook for saying what you said in this video.. about toasting your alternator at an idle on a greatly depleted lithium bank. They would not listen. Admin got pissed and booted me. 🤦♂️
@@hardhead7056 humm have not hurd about that. Let me ask about what u said.
@@BoxBuilderIdaho it was a few years ago. Its the only reason i can think of for the heave ho that i got. 🤷♂️
Thanks for the reply. Merry Christmas.
@@hardhead7056 well we keep screenshots and lots of proof when we go to remove people.. so we will see.
How can I get up with Mr BBi I've been trying for some time now
What about a prius???
Felicidades, es un buen ejemplo. 467 sentadillas son unos YOURGIRLS.Uno muchas y un buen ejercicio. Se deja ver que hay muy buenos resultados 😍👍 Saludos desde la Cd.. de world 🌹😉💖 los mortalesa abian apreciado tan hermosa mujer.k