6.5 Grendel Bear Creek upper budget build

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  • Опубликовано: 13 дек 2024

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  • @uralbob1
    @uralbob1 11 месяцев назад +2

    Handsome rifle! Great episode! Thank you.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  10 месяцев назад

      Thank you! Haven't done any vids in a while, but more coming soon.

    • @uralbob1
      @uralbob1 10 месяцев назад

      @@pewsandbrews👍

  • @MrBoo1963
    @MrBoo1963 Месяц назад +2

    Now here it is 2 years later and I am still shooting my Grendel and can load to shoot 100 yards with ¼ spread. 100g, 123g, and about to lock in a 120g.

  • @TheRange7
    @TheRange7 3 месяца назад +2

    I bought that same upper several years ago, in 2019 when things were very dreadfully slow in the overall firearms business. Ammo was at 12 year lows and they had to pretty much sell a lot of stuff for little to no margin industry wide just to attempt to maintain cash flow. Like you, I'm no ace marksman, not by a long stretch. That said, those groups you printed in this vid were way way better than any I've ever gotten. LOL Don't sell yourself short man, that was some very nice shooting. I use my rifles for nothing more than shooting paper and steel targets out at our range. Now I'm going to start shopping for some better ammo to see if I can get anywhere near a 1 1/2 inch group at 100 yards with my upper. Cheers my friend.

  • @sharedpollard4407
    @sharedpollard4407 2 месяца назад +1

    Cool video. I used BCA barrel and BCG but actually had to swap out the carrier because it didn’t fit my Aero Precision upper correctly. I used a spare Aero carrier with the bca Bolt assembly and then it worked. dunno 🤷
    I also used a similar Chy-Na scope off amazon for 115, and it worked plenty fine. Ammo is 25-27 bucks a box in 2024.

  • @joneifer8987
    @joneifer8987 2 года назад +9

    Type 1 are 7.62x39 bolts. Type 2 are 6.5 Grendel specific.

    • @LRRPFco52
      @LRRPFco52 2 года назад +3

      There’s no such thing as 6.5 Grendel Type II, but the industry latched onto that misnomer out of simplicity when trying to distinguish between the two different bolt face depths. Alexander Arms started out using well-engineered bolts made from scratch for the Grendel, based on the lessons learned from the 50 Beowulf. Bill A. tracked down one of the engineers from Colt when he was doing his research for the 50 Beowulf, asking them about what they did to handle the 7.62x39 cartridge in the AR-15 on Colt’s 7.62x39 Sporter from the late 1980s-early 1990s. Biggest problem was extractor lip thickness with the thicker x39 case rims, so Bill moved the bolt face back enough to allow an extractor that would have a thicker lip. This resulted in a bolt with a face depth of .136”, the original and standard Grendel bolt to this day.
      That same bolt design carried over the 6.5 Grendel, with added testing and inspections that back-filled to Beowulf bolts as well. After-market companies who didn’t do any testing and solid research used the same .125” bolt face depth as 5.56 for their imitation 7.62x39 guns (many with .308” bores instead of Russian .310” for the 7.62x39).
      After-market companies looking to jump on the Grendel bandwagon then used the imitation 7.62x39 bolts, which break extractors left and right. One such company (BHW) made 7.62x39 barrels and sourced bolts for them using the .125” bolt face depth. As customers started asking for actual Grendel bolts and chambers cut to match real Grendel bolts, they called their 7.62x39 bolts “Type I” and Grendel bolts with .136” face depth “Type II”. It’s very confusing because real Grendel bolts with the .136” face depth were around a lot longer than this naming construct that was meant to only be used within that one particular company (BHW).

    • @goodcitizen3780
      @goodcitizen3780 Год назад +1

      That's enough out of you people.
      First, you're missing the bit about how the chambering is different, so if you're going to go around correcting people do it properly. Second, there is a type II. that's because there were two types, the one with the bad bolt and chamber and the one that's saami that everyone wants.
      You guys can claim there is no type II but there are two types and everyone but the pedants who read a little says there is a type II.
      If there are 2 types and people call one of them type II, guess what....
      There's a type II. Like it not, it doesn't matter.

  • @djl5634
    @djl5634 2 года назад +5

    PSA stated they will produce 6.5grendel steel cased ammo. E mail them to entice them to. Sellior and bellot ammo just came out in 6.5grendel. Is small rifle primer great for reloads unlike the ppu

    • @garrytalley8009
      @garrytalley8009 Год назад

      Steel cased ammo isn't fit to shoot in a rifle if you have any intention of having it a long time and shooting it without excessive wear in the chamber and feeding areas. You won't save enough money by shooting it and it doesn't shoot all that well either. Better to shoot fewer better rounds accurately than shoot garbage all over the place and lots of it. BTW brass cased ammo, the cheap stuff isn't that much more than steel and if you can reload it later.

  • @lemilone
    @lemilone 2 года назад +9

    just bought and received a 20 inch 6.5 Grendel from BCA . If it runs like my .223 Wylde it is a gem

    • @djl5634
      @djl5634 2 года назад +2

      Sellior and bellot ammo just came in from Europe. Its a 6.5grendel 120 fmj load with small rifle primers. Cavity back amuntion makes a 118grn bullet that reaches 2550fps bc .536 out of 18in barrel and expands crazy large. Federal gold medal match berger is 130grn bc.560 at 2550 in 20in it's a great accurate long range load also. Finally PSA hinted at 6.5grendel steel cased ammo production. E mail them about this is u like grendel.

    • @bobbyjoecroney7849
      @bobbyjoecroney7849 2 года назад +2

      Mine won't feed yet at all. Tried 3 lowers, 2 different clips and 3 ammos

    • @djl5634
      @djl5634 2 года назад +1

      @@bobbyjoecroney7849 never heard of that problem. It's probably ur gas system or buffer and spring combo.

    • @bobbyjoecroney7849
      @bobbyjoecroney7849 2 года назад +1

      @@djl5634 got to be. I love the upper. Bought a 450 bushmaster bca same time. No prob

    • @djl5634
      @djl5634 2 года назад +1

      @@bobbyjoecroney7849 I think most people go 20in rifle length with adjustable gas block. Is that ur setup. If so lose the adjustable gas block. If not go with a light buffer weight. U can knock the pin out of ur buffer. Take 1 weight out then Place a piece of rubber where the weight is removed u can try this for free. If it's over gassed u can add a adjustable gas block. Or heavier buffer weight or spring. But if u went with a non standard oversized gas system. It can be the port size to big or 2 small can mess it all up. I never liked rifle length in Grendel's. Alexander arms set grendel up to hit max pressure at the same spot in the barrel as 556. So a 16 or 18 with mid leghth gas system with mil spec gas block is my go to.

  • @trwsandford
    @trwsandford Год назад

    lol, my barrel was $600.00. you really did do a budget build !

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  Год назад

      Yep, if someone's looking for an absolute tack driver, sky's the limit, but for an inexpensive serviceable semi Grendel for someone on a budget, it's not too bad.

    • @trwsandford
      @trwsandford Год назад +1

      @@pewsandbrews 🤣 I built mine on a Kreiger single point cut 24" bull barrel. Some say "awesome" some, like me giggle at my foolishness because I turned a lightweight rifle into a long distance tack driver for no reason at all.
      Well, one reason... because why not? It also has wood furniture, and 5-25 scope. and a bipod.
      I need to find a shooter good enough to test it. Know anyone in the Pacific Northwest?
      I would be forever in your debt.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  Год назад

      @@trwsandford Sorry, don't know anyone out that way. I'm in the north east so about as far away as we can get.

  • @timwheeler4690
    @timwheeler4690 9 месяцев назад

    I have a few when I get a minute.I can completely tear him down and go back to specs and torque.Then you're perfect afterwards

  • @chrisknott6651
    @chrisknott6651 2 года назад +1

    It may be late, but optic planet has 6.5 grendel ammo in stock.

  • @deerhearse
    @deerhearse Год назад +1

    Been considering a Grendel. Wife will probably whoop me too, lol. Great video! New subscriber.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  Год назад +1

      Thanks! I don't post a ton, but try to make it funny or informative when I do.

  • @Luckfiberals
    @Luckfiberals 2 года назад +4

    I end up ditching my bca barrel and putting a shilen 20in it was like night and day on accuracy I bought my bca upper in 2019 I paid $225 for it so it wasn't too bad of a los 6.5 grendel i think is a great round very expensive if you don't reload

  • @grant1109
    @grant1109 2 года назад +1

    I have a 6.5G complete 20in upper from BCA. Mine gets jammed every few rounds

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  Год назад +1

      I know its been a while, but check out my 50 Beowulf vid on fixing the jams.

    • @garrytalley8009
      @garrytalley8009 Год назад

      It's been a while since your post. Are you using mags made for the Grendel? It requires a different feed ramp. Just asking. It's a bit more complicated when you have to use a different bolt and barrel on an AR.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  Год назад

      @@garrytalley8009 I know you're addressing the OP, but I was using Grendel specific mags in the vid. That may well be his issue.

  • @jackwalter4000
    @jackwalter4000 2 года назад +1

    Loved your introduction 😅. Where is your property?…. I live in Colorado, and my local Scheels has Perfecta fmj nearly every time I go in ..

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Jack. I'm up in eastern PA. I'm only 15mins from a cabelas, but its still hot and miss. Seems like most ammo is coming back around though.

  • @sbranham86
    @sbranham86 2 года назад +5

    Bca not too bad just make sure you go with their stainless barrels

  • @michaelr130
    @michaelr130 Год назад +1

    Gun info was good, the over exaggerating how refreshing the beer was ruined it. BCA is in my opinion lower quality than PSA. For about $100 more you could have gotten a grendelhunter upper with a Satern Liberty barrel, which is night and day better quality.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  Год назад +2

      lol....sorry a couple ahhh's ruined in for you. Of course BCA is lower quality than other brands, but that's why it's a budget build featuring the BCA upper. I could have put a better scope and better trigger in it too. I'm just a guy making goofy gun reviews on youtube. I try not to take myself too seriously.

    • @larrywilson6555
      @larrywilson6555 Год назад +2

      6.5 Grendel is a great round possibly the best AR15 round.

  • @kenhnsy
    @kenhnsy Год назад +1

    Great video and even better ending content.

  • @1c_redd
    @1c_redd Год назад +1

    I was looking to do a 350 legend build…, any idea how many black-eyes that my cost me? 😂😂😂 Great video.

  • @fishlanding
    @fishlanding Год назад +3

    oh man I smiled at your intro.... btw I have a BCA complete upper right side charging and so far reliable and accurate with a primary arms red dot.... carry on

  • @andrewfurlotte8307
    @andrewfurlotte8307 2 года назад +4

    For your accuracy tests, use a lead sled. It takes you out of the accuracy equation.

  • @thesaint1517
    @thesaint1517 2 года назад +5

    I have the same upper with side charge and I am very pleased with the results achieved with my reloads. Ammo is not easy to get and extremely expensive for this caliber so I am forced to do limited reloading because of the primer scarcity. Oh well, hopefully things will get better. Really enjoyed your video.

    • @djl5634
      @djl5634 2 года назад +1

      Sellior and bellot ammo just came out with a 6.5grendel fmj. It's small rifle primer so it's better for reload than Ppu. Wolf is 13$ a box right now. PSA also stated they will make steel cased 6.5. So e mail them

  • @kellym3531
    @kellym3531 2 года назад +2

    I could not let that scope in my house lol.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 года назад +1

      Lol....it is a "thing" for sure

  • @frankbrowning328
    @frankbrowning328 Год назад

    Very nice combo upper/lower etc for the price. Nice group.
    As long as a person states "Im not a professional shooter" "This group is good for me" or "I normally shoot groups of "XYZ" that to me is far better than the guys that shoot plates and give no explanation of their skill level. As I get older my skills have diminished some and in the future Im sure theyll diminish more, but I just tell people from the beginning what I can normally do and what happened when I shot a particular gun.

  • @michaelbyrd499
    @michaelbyrd499 2 года назад +1

    Hornady makes a match 6.5 Grendel load.

  • @d30gaijin
    @d30gaijin Год назад

    I didn't hear in the video you indicate how many yards you were shooting at. Not saying you didn't just I didn't pick up on it. Was that 50 yards or 100 yards?

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  Год назад

      The first couple were 50....the slow set was about 80. Our rifle range runs across the back of the pistol pits that someone was using so I couldn't push all the way back to 100.

  • @mmgross144
    @mmgross144 Год назад +1

    Great humor and filmography, but your indoor sound levels are too low. I don't know what you are using so I can't recommend a solution. I'm also impressed with your the weapon. I think that it will be my next build.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  Год назад

      Thanks....Just using a phone to film with the stock microphone that's on it. Need to upgrade at some point.

  • @jeffreyolson3878
    @jeffreyolson3878 2 года назад +1

    Your presentation audio needs to be brought up several notches. If you could work on that it would be very nice.

  • @Cherokee-sz7xi
    @Cherokee-sz7xi Год назад

    Is that a . 556 mag or a dedicated 6.5g mag? Thanks

  • @EchoSigma6
    @EchoSigma6 2 года назад +2

    I’m still on the fence with this BCA upper, the one I’m looking at is their standard 20” for about $309, this is cheaper than PSA’s similar upper offering. I heard BCA will guarantee sub MOA using match grade ammo.
    I did notice that ammoseek has a the Russian steel case ammo for under $.75/round which is almost double the price of.223 from the same manufacturer (Wolf). This probably makes it easier to practice from a financial perspective and a cheaper alternative to a .308 build since you don’t have to buy the larger lower receiver.
    My friend tells me his 6.5 G is reasonably soft shooting but he reloads. What are your felt recoil impressions of the 6.5G compared to a 5.56 55gr? My AR15 is a standard 16” barrel with a mid length gas system.
    I’m looking for a reasonably priced gun good for 600 yards, anything beyond that and you could get into the weeds with high priced scopes. Thank you.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 года назад +2

      Not as soft as a 223, but a 123 gn vs 55 gn won't be. Like I said, if you don't reload it will be expensive shooting. Think of it as a bridge between the 556 and 7.62. More stopping power at range than the 556, lighter and less recoil than the 7.62, but able to be used in the 556 platform.

    • @djl5634
      @djl5634 2 года назад +2

      Buy a grendel hunter upper. U can build it how ever u want. And they have great prices. If not go CMMG 6.5grendel power bolt I have a 16inChrome lined saber defence mid length gas system with fixed forged pinned a2 front sight upper with a fail zero bcg. And a home build lower with cheap nib x parts. A( Cozad h1 buffer kinda like a hydraulic buffer without the fluid and a spring instead. to reduce recoil to 556 level recoil And a phase 5 bad lever. I love chrome lined grendel barrels but they are hard to find. But they are just as if not more accurate. Better lasting accuracy. And less throat erosion. I like my rifle to be mil spec. Especially if u want a real dirt capable battle rifle not a sissy bench rifle. As far as velocity for range (cavity back amuntion ) makes a high bc .536 118grn bullet moving 2550 out of a 18in barrel. So don't be afraid to go short. Past 20in is useless.

  • @frankbrowning328
    @frankbrowning328 2 года назад +1

    Very nice little group. Was the last group shot at 50 or 100 yards?

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 года назад +1

      wasn't quite 100, our club is mainly a pistol club. The rifle range runs behind the pistol pits, and there were guys in the first pit so I couldn't push it all the way back.....80 or so I would say

    • @frankbrowning328
      @frankbrowning328 2 года назад +1

      @@pewsandbrews Very good. That rifle has potential to be a very reasonably priced tack driver. Reloading components can't stay at low inventory and crazy prices forever. This will allow some additional tinkering at a more reasonable cost.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 года назад +1

      @@frankbrowning328 Measured the trigger pull and it came in at 7Lb 4oz average, so that didn't help. The reloading stuff is coming around, non existent for a while, but you can find it now.

    • @frankbrowning328
      @frankbrowning328 2 года назад +1

      @@pewsandbrews Milspec trigger. A good drop in trigger (2 - 3.5lbs) would be a nice investment in future accuracy. I wish we could get reloading components around here in my part of WI. When you find them they are ridiculously priced. $125-$175 per 1000 primers. Powder at $50-$80 a pound. But it is going to change soon as people are letting the high priced stuff sit longer and longer.

  • @MrBoo1963
    @MrBoo1963 2 года назад +1

    BC has a few good uppers.

  • @ronbo714
    @ronbo714 2 года назад

    That’s at 50yds?

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 года назад

      Almost 100 for the last set, 7.4 lb trigger with untested slapped together reloads and a random guy on RUclips shooting.

  • @robertbeck5754
    @robertbeck5754 3 месяца назад

    lolz

  • @whelanusmc
    @whelanusmc 2 года назад +2

    Plenty of ammo out there for it. Alexander Arms has it, Midway has it...it just depends on the round you want. I love mine, even the upper. The people who hate it, never ordered one and gave it a shot. They just jump on the bandwagen.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 года назад

      Yep, ammo is coming around again.

    • @whelanusmc
      @whelanusmc 2 года назад

      @@pewsandbrews crappy thing is its so damn expensive for the Grendel which sucks. $40 a box for hunting rounds. I ended up putting a Vortex optic on mine and its holding good. Its been bounced around a little bit since I've last shot it so hoping for the best. Not a bad gun to take out hog hunting and at the price point, you don't really gotta worry about beating it up too much. The Hornady ELD Match rounds shoot amazing out of it.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 года назад

      @@whelanusmc Yeah.....the real good target rounds are $60 a box some places. Vortex makes some pretty good stuff, and 6.5 doesn't have big recoil so you should be good with that. I'm in the North East so no hogs up here to play with.

  • @moynihansamm
    @moynihansamm 2 года назад +2

    Wtf is that optic

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 года назад +1

      It's a super cheapy by a company called Pinty, but they're clear and hold zero well. I tried one of their red dots a while back which worked great, so for $100.00 I figured I'd try it. Not battle ready for sure, but on a range plinker, it'll do.

    • @goodcitizen3780
      @goodcitizen3780 Год назад

      I like pinty for plinking and even hunting scopes. They are always clear and they always hold zero as long as they are mounted properly. I've even had the rs22 bouncing around between the front seats on several trips and that scope stays put. Some of the other ones I've traveled with quite a bit and they stay put.
      If you do your part, they'll do theirs. 😁

    • @garrytalley8009
      @garrytalley8009 Год назад

      It does resemble a bow scope. Same reticle anyway.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  Год назад +1

      @@goodcitizen3780 I did a review of their Red Dot and I was amazed at how well it held up to some decent abuse. This scope actually came with a red dot and green laser mounted to it for the $100.00 that aren't in the video. Mounted the laser on my bedroom AR and used the red dot on a 22 plinker.

    • @goodcitizen3780
      @goodcitizen3780 Год назад

      @@pewsandbrews
      Lol that's awesome. I think I have the same one. I put it all on the Rossi.22 and slapped a light on the thing and made it my coyote gun for a long time. The laser moves around a bit but everything else stays put and that thing is a real tack driver.

  • @rudolphferdinand3634
    @rudolphferdinand3634 2 года назад

    I have been looking for a rifle in 308 Winchester bolt action. Savage 110 Tactical 20” barrel is what bought. Cleaned up the barrel then headed to the range. The trigger is outstanding at 1.5 pounds now the accuracy for three rounds .495”. The trigger is a little lite for me increased to 2 pounds. Clean-up but bore scoped? Yes, the barrel looked like it was made by a tractor. From the muzzle to the chamber horizon marks throughout; returned. Quality Control failure.

    • @garrytalley8009
      @garrytalley8009 Год назад

      Most anything looks terrible with a bore scope. No QC failure if it functioned and you shot sub-MOA. To each their own but what you wrote and did is quite troublesome. I know what you complained about because I do have the same rifle but with the longer barrel. If it shoots sub-MOA and functions well because the barrel isn't pristine with zero marks in it from front to end it isn't a QC issue.

  • @emorygilree55
    @emorygilree55 2 года назад

    Lol