This vid had me at “Hi, there.” The choral sounds in this library is the sound of cold hard cash leaving my bank account. 😂 Superb job, Spitfire. 🇬🇧 👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼
Amazing library! Will get it today with the special 50% discount. I hope you don't mind, Paul, if I correct one little detail, though. Melisma is a single vowel stretched over several notes. The term you were looking for is portamento, which is the sliding of the voice from one note to another. (This would only be done going up according to the lyrical tradition of great Italian singers, not on notes going down.)
The rhythmic stuff is so, so smart. I don't own the product but I'd love/wonder if an option exists to increase the pitch variation to really milk the doubled/tripled vocal effect on the rhythmic stuff.
Finally at 50% off i bought this straight, its crazy how the peopl don’t ear the tone and complain about word builder… I spend month listening carrefuly every choir library, this one is EXEPTIONEL!! Other library offer the same « style » of choir, this one is différent and underrated!
This seems like a "Pro" version with all those mic positions. I wish Spitfire offered a "Standard" version of it. Not all of us are commercial level pros. That's a lot of $$$ and A LOT of SSD space. Love Spitfire, but have to sit this one out.
Like the other complainers, I'm flabbergassted that you are not consciously building libraries around my personal budget and current studio set-up ...I ...I .....I dunno....just who do you think you are making high end projects that cost more than $50 ???
Well, these samplings have a great fidelity and are incredibly professionals, that's why they are so pricey. You can check some great, cheap choir libraries like the Requiem Light Symphonic Choir.
Today, 04/09/2024, you have a discounted price, £149, for this great Choir, but please, please, please, fix the 'EVO' plugin sample loading bug. It's so very annoying. It is also very important. I have upgraded my CPU from Ryen 5 to your recommended spec, to a Ryzen 7, made no difference. This library is so fantastic and deserves this fix, urgently. I built a complete new computer to run this thinking it was me, when in fact it is a known problem to you, come on, get it fixed. The 'Nanana' patch across the library sounds like a chipmunk and does not auto adjust to DAW tempo no matter what you do.
@@AcousticBruce Read the date I put it up there or are you blind? That was the offer at that time you numpty. Jeez a loo, don't people read things properly anymore ?
@@AcousticBruce Can't you read you numpty? Try reading the date it was put up and try digesting it, or better still, try comprehending what it says. Also, check the date you placed this reply as against the date I put my comment up. Jeeze, don't people read anymore?
Great sound, no doubt about that. But if you own another "all-around" choir i don't think this add much to your template. But as always with Spitfire it sounds really good!
Hey guys, just got the plugin and I'm very happy so far. I just don't seem to get the melismas to work as Paul show around 1:41 in this Video. I have it all at the exact same settings and tried a view different playing styles but they don't seem to trigger. Any suggestions?
Excellent walkthrough. This, and some reviews, convinced me to buy this library. It sounds fantastic. One question: How did you get all four separate sections to play simultaneously after transposing the tenor and bass? Thanks!
Sounds great! However, I’m assuming that this plugin lacks the ability to purge samples, much like HZ strings? I don’t mind anything else about these new Spitfire Standalone Plugins, but not being able to purge samples is a HUGE bummer for a lot of us. I’m using a giant template with most of my libraries pre-purged and streaming off of SSDs, so not being able to purge is a big, big turn off! And this matters even more when all those mics are involved..
Bror Berglund - Since this is a sampler plug-in it has its own way to manage the RAM usage. If you download the manual, check number _13. Plugin Settings_ (page 18) and you will find out you can control how much it loads into the RAM as well as how many voices. The default values are 12288 samples and 512 voices. But you can go as low as just a 1000 samples which will significantly decrease memory usage. You also have Stream Buffer Size.
bert6975 they’re still using Kontakt for most of their products as far as I know. The only products not doing so, as far as I’m aware, are Hans Zimmer Strings, BT Phobos and this new Whitacre Choir. The free Labs stuff also runs through it’s own plugin
personally i think the price and disk space required puts this out of reach of a lot of people. a real shame, as it sounds magnificent. a cheaper "lite" version with less mic positions and articulations would make this an essential addition to many people's libraries, imo
SSD prices had dropped so much lately. Cutting down on the articulations would be the real shame in my opinion. You get this sound because of quality that cannot be otherwise achieved.
The idea is to have a "light" version as well as the complete one. And why not? Lately quite a few of these overkill libraries have been coming out and I very much feel that some of them are already past the point of diminishing returns - especially when it comes to the unneccessary excess microphones and esoteric articulations. I've reached a point where I don't wanna bother with all the exorbitant fluff any more.
Agreed. This is a beauitful library, but for the Air Lyndhurst libraries I only use tree or close mics, the rest just take up space on my hard drive, never used. In my case too (and I know it's not the same for everyone else), I would need to upgrade my external ssd from 1 to 2TB - which would add another few hundred pounds on to store samples I don't need. I would have paid over three quarters price for this to have half as many mics. In fact I'd probably have paid the price it is, if it had just been the usual three mics.
Nice, but quite a lot of modulating resonance at around 300Hz, which is typical of older choir libraries, like EWQL symphonic choirs. Easily eq'd out, but shouldn't really be baked in at this price-point. The legato voices sound very nice indeed and the overall package is very impressive. Well done Spitfire, another library to eventually be added to the arsenal. If only the engine wasn't so cumbersome and 'Play' like in its deployment.
@@NicanorVillanueva8 lol do you know how much it costs to rent a studio and hire the talented singers and Eric Whitacre? That alone would be a lot more for a few hours let alone to have them in your daw when you need them for all time.
i love the sound, but i really would love to have a version with less mics. I absolutely respect spitfires decision here and they do sound great, but I'd love to only have C T A and also a smaller library with less diskspace required (because 160 gb is huge)
Damn, this sounds great! I wish I had the disk space for this; I use choirs all the time; but I basically need a new rig before investing in this. Great work though Spitfire! I will be buying this eventually!
Trying to pick a choir library and trying to get an understanding of the intended use of this library. Does this allow for phrase transitions or a phrase builder? How deep/low can the singer's voices go in this library? I love that this is done at Lyndhurst Hall and has the Spitfire Audio quality, just trying to figure out if it is mostly for airy light sounds or if it can do intense deep sounds with phrase changes such as say VOXOS 2, Soundiron Olympus, or EastWest Symphonic Choirs as some mentioned on this thread.
The composer they worked with was against phrase building because that's the body of what singers do. Everything they do is completely built around context and execution, so trying to bastardize that into a sample library seemed useless.
Honestly LOVE the integration of individual EVO descriptions right in the grid when you hover with the mouse. Made possible by the proprietary plug-in?
Every open microphone adds its own noise floor. Any multi-miked sample must therefore contain multiple noise floors - multiplied by the number of notes played in any chord arrangement. The resulting signal-to-noise ratio can then become seriously compromised - ie a problem. Maybe not noticeable at low sound volume levels, but for any professional user, a significant consideration to take on board. Sez moi. Perhaps engineers at Spitfire can take on board the idea that multiple microphone techniques don't necessarily make for better audio fidelity? Especially when reverberation effects are easily (and realistically) added post-production/pre-mixdown, and with consequent saving on file sizes. And - dare I say - purchase prices? :)
Oh dear. Theres nothing new here except Spitfire’s decision to use this unstable GUI plugin. If you have SoundIrons’ choirs, CineSamples’ Voxos or EastWest’s choirs then you’ll already have a superior choir library.
Jonathan Brooker - Agreed with regard to the GUI. The triumph of developers' convenience over end user experience. It's like living through EWQL Play vs Kontakt, all over again. It has stopped me purchasing EW libraries ever since... SA really need to re-think this approach.
franchement pas terrible dominus choeurs ou est west sont beaucoup mieux et moins cher frankly not terrible dominus choirs or is west are much better and cheaper
I'm sorry but this price is absolutely absurd. I understand your work is no easy task; but for this price you can buy packs of over 60 products including choir sample packs. I was truly interested in this but at this price it's just not worth it.
So far, the best sounding choir library I’ve heard to date. Now I am doomed to buy it, and blessed to use it in my doomedness.
It would be fantastic if you could make a "Core" version of this library too.
Absolutely! Fewer or no mic placement options and this would be a huge hit with producers on a budget
Yeah… $600 😬😬😬
Your prayers have been answered! Take a look at their current ORIGINALS line-up. You'll find something you'll like.
@@JakeLondonRivers Now it's only 189
The Wark Eric Whiacre chorus is exquisitely fused in space and disappears beautifully. This is very important! ️ Great ❣️💕😍
Paul Thomson is lovely to listen to. :-)
sound fantastic, it really does capture that aesthetic Eric is known for.. Yet again great work guys
ITS HERE!! So blown away by this and only a minute in
This vid had me at “Hi, there.” The choral sounds in this library is the sound of cold hard cash leaving my bank account. 😂 Superb job, Spitfire. 🇬🇧 👏🏼 👏🏼 👏🏼
Great to hear a choir library reviewed that wasn't drenched in reverb the whole time. Spitfire are too classy for that.
Sounds Heavenly to my soul.
Amazing library! Will get it today with the special 50% discount. I hope you don't mind, Paul, if I correct one little detail, though. Melisma is a single vowel stretched over several notes. The term you were looking for is portamento, which is the sliding of the voice from one note to another. (This would only be done going up according to the lyrical tradition of great Italian singers, not on notes going down.)
The rhythmic stuff is so, so smart. I don't own the product but I'd love/wonder if an option exists to increase the pitch variation to really milk the doubled/tripled vocal effect on the rhythmic stuff.
Finally at 50% off i bought this straight, its crazy how the peopl don’t ear the tone and complain about word builder…
I spend month listening carrefuly every choir library, this one is EXEPTIONEL!!
Other library offer the same « style » of choir, this one is différent and underrated!
This video cost me a lot of money!
The best of part of this is the specials: some really interesting sounds there
This seems like a "Pro" version with all those mic positions. I wish Spitfire offered a "Standard" version of it. Not all of us are commercial level pros. That's a lot of $$$ and A LOT of SSD space. Love Spitfire, but have to sit this one out.
Like the other complainers, I'm flabbergassted that you are not consciously building libraries around my personal budget and current studio set-up ...I ...I .....I dunno....just who do you think you are making high end projects that cost more than $50 ???
Well, these samplings have a great fidelity and are incredibly professionals, that's why they are so pricey. You can check some great, cheap choir libraries like the Requiem Light Symphonic Choir.
@@ivoryrick7734 It was a joke...
Wow! Sounds amazing Paul! How could I resist?
A really well crafted library. There are other sources for some of these sounds, but this is the Stradivarius.
Next level sampling.
Well done, Spitfire! Lovely sound! Especially impressive job on the EVO plugin!
MORE CHOIRS
Congratulations! I know this has been in the works for a very long time. Sounds lovely.
I need this really badly, just need to remortgage my house first!
Same here, 😂
Beautiful! Absolutely beautiful.
Today, 04/09/2024, you have a discounted price, £149, for this great Choir, but please, please, please, fix the 'EVO' plugin sample loading bug. It's so very annoying. It is also very important. I have upgraded my CPU from Ryen 5 to your recommended spec, to a Ryzen 7, made no difference. This library is so fantastic and deserves this fix, urgently. I built a complete new computer to run this thinking it was me, when in fact it is a known problem to you, come on, get it fixed. The 'Nanana' patch across the library sounds like a chipmunk and does not auto adjust to DAW tempo no matter what you do.
149? Really? It's like 350 on sale right now.
@@AcousticBruce Read the date I put it up there or are you blind? That was the offer at that time you numpty. Jeez a loo, don't people read things properly anymore ?
@@AcousticBruce Can't you read you numpty? Try reading the date it was put up and try digesting it, or better still, try comprehending what it says. Also, check the date you placed this reply as against the date I put my comment up. Jeeze, don't people read anymore?
why am i crying
Be great to have a more compact version of this, with fewer mic signals.
Try to beat Dominus Choir. The best choir library since long time
Na Hollywood choirs is better
Never heard of this choir before, thanks! Sounds awesome indeed!
Wow! Dominus Choir actually sounds great
well this would be worth my money if it came with a word builder
Great sound, no doubt about that. But if you own another "all-around" choir i don't think this add much to your template. But as always with Spitfire it sounds really good!
Hey guys, just got the plugin and I'm very happy so far. I just don't seem to get the melismas to work as Paul show around 1:41 in this Video. I have it all at the exact same settings and tried a view different playing styles but they don't seem to trigger. Any suggestions?
Excellent walkthrough. This, and some reviews, convinced me to buy this library. It sounds fantastic. One question: How did you get all four separate sections to play simultaneously after transposing the tenor and bass? Thanks!
im so hyped for this
can you insert words into the plugin and have the choir sing what words you write?
That's not a feature of this library unfortunately
eastwest choirs
Sounds great! However, I’m assuming that this plugin lacks the ability to purge samples, much like HZ strings? I don’t mind anything else about these new Spitfire Standalone Plugins, but not being able to purge samples is a HUGE bummer for a lot of us. I’m using a giant template with most of my libraries pre-purged and streaming off of SSDs, so not being able to purge is a big, big turn off! And this matters even more when all those mics are involved..
Bror Berglund - Since this is a sampler plug-in it has its own way to manage the RAM usage. If you download the manual, check number _13. Plugin Settings_ (page 18) and you will find out you can control how much it loads into the RAM as well as how many voices. The default values are 12288 samples and 512 voices. But you can go as low as just a 1000 samples which will significantly decrease memory usage. You also have Stream Buffer Size.
bert6975 they’re still using Kontakt for most of their products as far as I know. The only products not doing so, as far as I’m aware, are Hans Zimmer Strings, BT Phobos and this new Whitacre Choir. The free Labs stuff also runs through it’s own plugin
Zahari Shtonov - thanks a lot! I’ll make sure to take a proper read through the manual:)
personally i think the price and disk space required puts this out of reach of a lot of people. a real shame, as it sounds magnificent. a cheaper "lite" version with less mic positions and articulations would make this an essential addition to many people's libraries, imo
SSD prices had dropped so much lately. Cutting down on the articulations would be the real shame in my opinion. You get this sound because of quality that cannot be otherwise achieved.
The idea is to have a "light" version as well as the complete one. And why not? Lately quite a few of these overkill libraries have been coming out and I very much feel that some of them are already past the point of diminishing returns - especially when it comes to the unneccessary excess microphones and esoteric articulations. I've reached a point where I don't wanna bother with all the exorbitant fluff any more.
Agreed. This is a beauitful library, but for the Air Lyndhurst libraries I only use tree or close mics, the rest just take up space on my hard drive, never used. In my case too (and I know it's not the same for everyone else), I would need to upgrade my external ssd from 1 to 2TB - which would add another few hundred pounds on to store samples I don't need. I would have paid over three quarters price for this to have half as many mics. In fact I'd probably have paid the price it is, if it had just been the usual three mics.
Nice, but quite a lot of modulating resonance at around 300Hz, which is typical of older choir libraries, like EWQL symphonic choirs. Easily eq'd out, but shouldn't really be baked in at this price-point. The legato voices sound very nice indeed and the overall package is very impressive. Well done Spitfire, another library to eventually be added to the arsenal. If only the engine wasn't so cumbersome and 'Play' like in its deployment.
Stunning!
It sounds marvellous. Great price too. Have to save up for it but seems totally worth it. Even has Evo's, how cool is that?
600 dolars great price?
@@NicanorVillanueva8 lol do you know how much it costs to rent a studio and hire the talented singers and Eric Whitacre? That alone would be a lot more for a few hours let alone to have them in your daw when you need them for all time.
0:37 It's i-NOV-va-tive! Where on earth did that pronunciation come from?
i had to start the video over just to see if i was losing my mind.. But thats what he said
That's the correct English pronunciation.
@@TerraExcessum eh no?
@Dinopolese Sharkosaur Then it's your lucky day! I love seeing unimportant words in capitals for no reason. So it's my lucky day too!
Eh?
Hello i do ambient music and new age , can this be a good add to that kind of music, thanks for a reply back
Do you ask for permission to create your music a certain way? Just do it ;)
I don't have much use for choir libraries, but it sounds great.
Mind blowing good!
Does this library have any swells?
Is this choir library able not to detune if we want to,just to hold it right pitch for how much time we want?
i love the sound, but i really would love to have a version with less mics. I absolutely respect spitfires decision here and they do sound great, but I'd love to only have C T A and also a smaller library with less diskspace required (because 160 gb is huge)
i'm in love
Your voice is honey, nice video as well
Can you change the length of the sliding between notes, for the legato patches?
Do you need Logic for this?
It would be even better if EW & Co used word technology so that composers could hear their lyrics / text etc. - like East West Choirs !
$599 - damn steep. Great library for sure - sounds incredible and I am sure there was time spent developing this. Great product but the price - whew!
don't buy it then
It’s on a 50% discount now =)
Damn, this sounds great! I wish I had the disk space for this; I use choirs all the time; but I basically need a new rig before investing in this. Great work though Spitfire! I will be buying this eventually!
Trying to pick a choir library and trying to get an understanding of the intended use of this library. Does this allow for phrase transitions or a phrase builder? How deep/low can the singer's voices go in this library? I love that this is done at Lyndhurst Hall and has the Spitfire Audio quality, just trying to figure out if it is mostly for airy light sounds or if it can do intense deep sounds with phrase changes such as say VOXOS 2, Soundiron Olympus, or EastWest Symphonic Choirs as some mentioned on this thread.
The composer they worked with was against phrase building because that's the body of what singers do. Everything they do is completely built around context and execution, so trying to bastardize that into a sample library seemed useless.
Honestly LOVE the integration of individual EVO descriptions right in the grid when you hover with the mouse. Made possible by the proprietary plug-in?
Ryan MacEachern Kontakt could do that
Finnnaaaalyy!
A M A Z I N G !!!! I`ll must sell kidney in Bosnia and Herzegovina in order to get it. :(
I T ‘ S I N N O V I T I V ----- 0:38
Phrases here would been amazing.
Where are the shorts tho
2:28 3:30 3:53 12:15
I love it but it is expensive ..to much...but the library is beautiful ..
Makes sense. Spitfire never really came out with a full choir library
Sounds lovely. Not the right definition of melisma though...
Every open microphone adds its own noise floor. Any multi-miked sample must therefore contain multiple noise floors - multiplied by the number of notes played in any chord arrangement. The resulting signal-to-noise ratio can then become seriously compromised - ie a problem. Maybe not noticeable at low sound volume levels, but for any professional user, a significant consideration to take on board. Sez moi.
Perhaps engineers at Spitfire can take on board the idea that multiple microphone techniques don't necessarily make for better audio fidelity? Especially when reverberation effects are easily (and realistically) added post-production/pre-mixdown, and with consequent saving on file sizes. And - dare I say - purchase prices? :)
1:33 sounds like Kanye West used this in Wolves
They used omnisphere
He used Sia. lmao
sounds great, but I am really suspiciously since the release of HZ Strings which was not good as expected
gutha urghnách, εξαιρετικά φωνητικά, incredibili vocales....... Praestare non possum non..... Hoc est vita opus musicum
Oh dear. Theres nothing new here except Spitfire’s decision to use this unstable GUI plugin. If you have SoundIrons’ choirs, CineSamples’ Voxos or EastWest’s choirs then you’ll already have a superior choir library.
Jonathan Brooker - Agreed with regard to the GUI. The triumph of developers' convenience over end user experience. It's like living through EWQL Play vs Kontakt, all over again. It has stopped me purchasing EW libraries ever since... SA really need to re-think this approach.
Bought so I can make the new halo soundtrack….. in my dreams
Please buy me this library.
We do not have that kind of money in Russia
Without a WorldBuilder it's pretty much a non-starter. East West has it and clearly the better product
Damn you Spitfire.. Out with the credit card...Again.
APEX!
plis giv me monei
In ov it ive
franchement pas terrible dominus choeurs ou est west sont beaucoup mieux et moins cher frankly not terrible dominus choirs or is west are much better and cheaper
My choir library from 1996 can most of these sounds as well, totally not impressed! I expected way more from this company...
Which library is that?
This should be fkg illegal
wow.
LoL! :P
Nothing new....
What!? Are you nuts? Listen to those legatos! And the EVO's...priceless!
Super space-wasting GUI, all your kontakt instruments GUI's are much better
The GUI is resizable and compared to Kontakt can be much more space saving.
I'm sorry but this price is absolutely absurd. I understand your work is no easy task; but for this price you can buy packs of over 60 products including choir sample packs. I was truly interested in this but at this price it's just not worth it.
Is this choir library able not to detune if we want to,just to hold it right pitch for how much time we want?