This is why public lobbies FAIL 99% of the time

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024

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  • @matheusgazola764
    @matheusgazola764 7 дней назад +14

    Yep, the rend bot is the build we need.

  • @StephenCroome
    @StephenCroome 7 дней назад +13

    In what fantasy land can you join a pug without already having done the raid?

    • @der_heftige_Harald
      @der_heftige_Harald 7 дней назад +3

      U cant cuz ppl expect u to sub 20 it and have 725 gear to even enter.

    • @zanza3762
      @zanza3762 6 дней назад

      False

    • @guilllermohurtado1008
      @guilllermohurtado1008 6 дней назад +1

      @@der_heftige_Harald that’s not true , the majority of the time people just want you to be geared correctly it’s not that hard, also be able to learn so u can help the team.

    • @StephenCroome
      @StephenCroome 6 дней назад

      @@zanza3762 False

    • @der_heftige_Harald
      @der_heftige_Harald 6 дней назад +2

      @@guilllermohurtado1008 oh is that why on my server I get ignored in lfm or ppl respond with „no token, no inv“?

  • @josealfaro5791
    @josealfaro5791 6 дней назад +6

    Most people forget ranged hatchet exists for first boss and last boss man.

    • @W9HJBill
      @W9HJBill 6 дней назад +4

      I love doing Freya for first and last boss and evade rapier for second boss.

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  6 дней назад +1

      @@josealfaro5791 you would do way better damage with the bow or musket compared to the hatchet 🪓

  • @der_heftige_Harald
    @der_heftige_Harald 7 дней назад +15

    As a firestaff player who can pretty much solo every single elite zone due to its insane burst and DoT dmg and who heavily invested time and effort in my build I must say that they should make content accessible or doable no matter what class u play. There shouldnt be a „u only get taken if u play this and that“. So why on earth would I reroll my entire build (especially as a casual player) just to meet sbs raidexpectations. Thats simply stupid, sry.
    Firestaff is ranged for a reason. So no, Im not suddenly becoming a melee player and heavily diverse from the core of my build just to clear this raid cuz this game takes so much freakin time to be effective and to get ur gear together. Its bad enough that most ppl are expecting u to have 725 GS with 100s of linkable tokens to be taken in first place.
    This is exactly the reason why I dont wanna even enter this raid anymore 😂
    I can understand ur idea of „helping“ new players out but this approach of urs (as a new player) simply drives me mad and is not helpful at all, since it requires me to invest even more time than I already do.

    • @scottcunni
      @scottcunni 7 дней назад +3

      agree with you on this. I'm a tank and I have a great time tanking with GS and spear and have zero issues getting agro and keeping agro, I can keep my grit up, provide debuffs but yet groups are like nope, need SNS and hammer or whatever. its like this in every MMO, you get these "vet" players that "want" to help but you must only have this or dont have that yet I'm pretty sure they all cleared these raids and such without what they are asking because it wasn't "meta" when it first came out.

    • @delunk5906
      @delunk5906 7 дней назад +2

      All games are like this. Get multiple dps builds so you aren't dead weight.

    • @kruptcy4126
      @kruptcy4126 7 дней назад +3

      So... you're looking for a guide that tells you to keep doing what you're doing and make no changes, because those changes would take effort? I don't think that would be very effective.

    • @der_heftige_Harald
      @der_heftige_Harald 7 дней назад +1

      @@kruptcy4126 that wasnt the gist of my comment.

    • @der_heftige_Harald
      @der_heftige_Harald 7 дней назад +3

      @@scottcunni I actually made a frigid dawn tank set (to grab those extra 500g from daily mutations 😂) but truly cant stand this raid anymore. Ive entered with 2 grp now. One wirh 680 gear where we couldnt even dps Echidna below 75%. Then yesterday with randoms WITHOUT rend and a melee party and we managed to dps her down to like 20% and then died to mechanics but not bc of stupidity. We just didnt bring any rend at all but were nowhere near perfect. So it is definitely possible. Now, everytime I see or hear the phrase LINK GEAR or I check gear I get pretty angry bc thats not helping, thats gatekeeping. Nothing else. Thats why I dont participate anymore and keep doing the rest of the content and just stay at 710 GS until they release the next update 🤷‍♂️

  • @guilllermohurtado1008
    @guilllermohurtado1008 6 дней назад +4

    You know what would really prove a point ? If we all went 8 man fire staff on a boss see how long it takes

    • @BogdanSC
      @BogdanSC 6 дней назад +3

      “One eternity later”….

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  6 дней назад +2

      @@guilllermohurtado1008 New World 3 will be out before we end that boss fight. 😜

    • @biglow7027
      @biglow7027 6 дней назад +2

      Call in the FIRE STAFF speed runners for this one.

  • @2ambaby198
    @2ambaby198 7 дней назад +6

    😂😂 leave me and my twirling fire staff alone

  • @terjegabrielsen
    @terjegabrielsen 10 часов назад +1

    Please make guides for each of the bosses in Hive, that would be greatly appreciated 👌👌 Also one for Sandwurm, would be awesome.
    Especially for Evade Rapier 👍

  • @why1random
    @why1random 6 дней назад +2

    conclusion - need rend and melee dps (specially rapier) or you cant do gorg

  • @shabazz717
    @shabazz717 6 дней назад +1

    100% have to use melee. I have a 725 finisher bleed build and use either musket, bow, or FS depending on what the rest of the group is running. But fire staff is definitely a back up weapon in there and very helpful on the last boss for killing the flowers.

  • @mihalyjozsa1951
    @mihalyjozsa1951 6 дней назад +3

    well, yes. The basic ideea is nice, but at first boss i do waaay more damage than what i saw in this video with firestaff, with a very specific runeglassed build(no meelee dds). Yes, rend and weaken are important, but there are tanks which doesn't need full weaken or doesn't need weaken at all, and I was in many gorgon raids where at the first boss every dps was ranged, 6 dds firestaff, 1 bow. was like 6 minutes. For different reasons at second boss, meelee is preferred, and yes, with GS and hatchet I apply rend, but at third boss is just the same like at the first one. The amount of rend that the tank applies sometimes is better and safer. Sometimes. Did it full meelee with people i know, was faster, but a dead dps doesn't deal damage at all, so a constant 5-6 k krit per second + the 5-6 smolder stacks and 1 bleed for the last boss with Firemage is pretty fine to me. This damages are from raids where rend was applied only from the tank.

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  6 дней назад +1

      @@mihalyjozsa1951 the whole “dead dps doesn’t deal damage” is the dumbest most repeated shit I hear people say. There’s a reason all the 200 con medium bots in pugs can’t clear. 10 tanks won’t clear. What do speed runs groups do? Are they out here with fire staffs? Nope 👎. Melee is king in this game and it won’t ever change.

    • @mihalyjozsa1951
      @mihalyjozsa1951 6 дней назад

      @BeeBopGaming understandable. I was saying that I did it faster, bigger damage and without casualities. Talking only about first and last boss. Even if the eggs hatch, if every firemage hits the ad once, it's gone in 2 seconds. Maybe you should try out a good firemage build with empowered on amulet, empowering meteor shower, ignited runeglasses, full fire harnessing... omnidirectional evade with finisher...etc... after seeing the damage you will change your mind. Been there, done that.

    • @der_heftige_Harald
      @der_heftige_Harald 5 дней назад

      @@mihalyjozsa1951 he doesnt understand that. In the veteran playersmind, only rend and evade rapiers exist. They call it the cuddle run cuz the melees come so close to eachother 😏🤌

  • @iam3Ga
    @iam3Ga 6 дней назад +1

    Preach, brother! I've had 4 hours raids and also

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  4 дня назад +1

      @@iam3Ga NA population is far too lazy to put in effort in my experience. Thats why I have two characters in the EU and 1 in Na.

  • @artdz6610
    @artdz6610 5 дней назад +1

    i came back to this game about 3.5 weeks ago. I remember the first week i had 3 lobbies that failed before finally completing it. Fast forward and if you join the public lobbies that vet for melee dps (finisher/serenity) they pretty much always clear the raid fine. In fact, my last 9 raid attempts all succeeded in finishing hive. The lobbies that failed were largely due to ranged dps or poor damage melee dps (stuff like great axe, hammer, etc..) that leaves you stuck on the second boss. There's always going to be a meta in games. It's not that you can't clear it running firestaff or bow as your main dps it's that it makes the party much worse. Firestaff and bow are both great in pvp. It's not that they are bad in everything

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  4 дня назад

      @@artdz6610 you said it perfectly. I’ve held these lobbies on streams for weeks and it shows this to be true EVERY TIME.

  • @spencerwatt9371
    @spencerwatt9371 7 дней назад +1

    Thank you for saying this! The first and last boss arent really dps checks, but getting better at close up melee combat in this raid will only help you and your team survive better because you arent fighting a boss for 20 mins.

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  6 дней назад

      @@spencerwatt9371 I won’t ever hesitate to say something if I feel it’s true or needed to be said. FS users are out of control thinking they are doing damage.

  • @brettfoss9318
    @brettfoss9318 7 дней назад +2

    I did a raid last night. One of the Randoms that joined claimed he could inflict disintegrate with a rapier while using lifetaker. We kicked him. Then we had some genius trying to use a hammer against the eggs on the final boss claiming he was rending the eggs 🙃

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  6 дней назад

      @@brettfoss9318 holy moly 🤦‍♂️ AGS does a terrible job teaching players how to play properly

  • @kruptcy4126
    @kruptcy4126 7 дней назад +4

    I am not sure why people expect to be able to do the same DPS as a melee while being subject to no other mechanics. If you like sitting back and left clicking and not having to deal with any mechanics, maybe high end content isn't a good fit for you...

  • @shiftace11
    @shiftace11 6 дней назад +1

    I've been grinding the story so i can finally unlock elysian wildlands to get finisher so i can finally complete my Bleed rapier build. once i get that its GG for gorgons raid. i have the mechanics down for boss 1 and 2 down 100% now.
    Also, i have been running evade rapier/ musket INT build and only use the musket to do the burst 3-4 shots if im farther away from an enemy.

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  4 дня назад

      @@shiftace11 that’s amazing. Are you on Rosa? If so let’s run the hive sometime.

  • @GlenironPa
    @GlenironPa 6 дней назад +1

    I'm a hatchet lover using zerk, jagged and attune on the hatchet with Rending throw and infected with the zerk. Rending throw on the hatchet is about the best there is. 20% rend for 14s. The cd is long over before the Rend. Keep throwing that rend. Zerk on the Hatchet with empowering rend on the armor followed with infected throw...non stop QRF with whacking away between CD's.

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  6 дней назад

      @@GlenironPa don’t tell me you are using sin? 🤦‍♂️

  • @rrun6431
    @rrun6431 6 дней назад +2

    tail whip at 4:44 and 9:59

  • @BeeBopGaming
    @BeeBopGaming  6 дней назад +1

    For everyone that is saying, “I do more damage with my fire staff/bow/ musket than what I see in this video”….. THAT’s the whole point!!! In this video there isn’t any other melee users/oblivion or rend players because everyone is a million miles away playing range. You don’t deal more damage than melee in a group of people who know how to play the game properly.

  • @ravenrpg3865
    @ravenrpg3865 6 дней назад +2

    the public lobby sucks not just in gorgon, in almost everything I group up for. I play a tank and can't tell you how stressful it is when dps is lagging terribly and doesn't understand to move out of aoe, or not stand next to me where they get cleaved.

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  6 дней назад +1

      @@ravenrpg3865 There’s a reason why M3’s are dead. 99% of people that play the game can’t do them. The game does a terrible job on teaching people how to play properly. 99% of dps in this game are range Randy’s that don’t know how to play.

    • @shiftace11
      @shiftace11 6 дней назад +1

      I used musket a lot but mostly as an initiation into a group of enemies the tank just grouped up. Or ill burst down an enemy and get right next to the tank so i can evade rapier once the tank snags aggro from that 1 guy. People need to bring the enemies that they aggro to the tank so he doesnt need to move much and can focus on defending.
      I enjoy running throwing hatchet on my tank build because i can aggro enemies from far that i want to group up instead of walking over to them.

  • @shootdasmm
    @shootdasmm 6 дней назад +1

    Void user and spear with rest as rapier is all you need

  • @shabazz717
    @shabazz717 6 дней назад

    Or, a void blade oblivion build works very well too with a 725 life taker for Malay. I ran that purely for oblivion on the second boss and we melted in. But that’s when elemental band was working or wasn’t turned off by AGS.

  • @MoNoXiDe
    @MoNoXiDe 5 дней назад +1

    The inferno artifact gives 15% dps increase for melee players. I feel like this should be considered if you have a rapier with omnidirectional evade. But, with the elemental band nerf, what would be the best off hand for evade players?

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  4 дня назад

      @@MoNoXiDe the finisher is still a better rapier overall. Higher damage numbers. Also the massive crit chance with the tondo perk on finisher which is the same bleed as the last hit in flurry. Can’t beat it.

  • @JameyRocket
    @JameyRocket 6 дней назад +2

    I still need gorgon for my quest but cant seem to get in as my score is to low ( 706)dps or everyone wants experience.
    I dont care about joining up with public lobbies. I wish it was possible for all content as this keeps some people from content having to have a group.
    Not everyone , mostly no one k ows what to do the first or second time through, you all need to relax and just enjoy the game and expect not everyone has time to be perfect at it

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  6 дней назад +3

      @@JameyRocket I have people join all the time and I don’t give two shits about gear score. I only and ONLY look at gear plus weapons. I can tell EVERYTHING by what a person links me with their gear and weapons. I will be starting a series teaching people how to play at this level very soon. I will continue to help, but this is end game content. A certain level of gear/weapons need to be required or you WONT EVER GET PASS THE FIRST BOSS.

    • @lothwitchviewing3776
      @lothwitchviewing3776 6 дней назад

      It is end game, it is not for everyone. You do the best you can to carry your weight. If you come in messed up, other people ether have to pick up your slack.

    • @JameyRocket
      @JameyRocket 6 дней назад

      @BeeBopGaming I'm constantly trying to get better gear, but lately it seems like i cant find any or nothing will drop that i use with better stats. We'll hopefully one day I'll be on your server and can get in with ya. I know you help man I watch your videos and it's appreciated.

  • @SPCPinellas8035
    @SPCPinellas8035 3 часа назад

    They need to make ranged dps more viable and other melee builds besides rapier.

  • @afarlie
    @afarlie 5 дней назад +1

    No thanks, Ill stick to the Medium Bow Build you showed me.

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  4 дня назад

      @@afarlie 😂 next up is my heavy bow/flail build. Bis

  • @yancarlosgarcia1329
    @yancarlosgarcia1329 6 дней назад +1

    me gustaria hacer una build de hatchet y GS, no tengo serenity, que me recomendarias usar de hatchet como artefacto ?

    • @yancarlosgarcia1329
      @yancarlosgarcia1329 6 дней назад +1

      uso fuerza y destreza

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  6 дней назад

      @@yancarlosgarcia1329 sorry I only know English. I wish I would have leaned Spanish years ago.

    • @yancarlosgarcia1329
      @yancarlosgarcia1329 6 дней назад

      @@BeeBopGaming youtube have translate lol

  • @TaniaRavenYT
    @TaniaRavenYT 7 дней назад

    I noticed that too. When I dps with bow or rifle I tend to dps alot slower. When I went melee the bosses were dying faster.😊

  • @Parad0xaL
    @Parad0xaL 6 дней назад

    How the fuck do you survive the tail whip directly to your face at 4:47? Is the damage spread over multiple people in a small radius? Because it keeps 1shotting me even with 100con.

    • @rrun6431
      @rrun6431 6 дней назад +1

      there was a lot of weaken applied to the boss. spear , bow , flail and upgraded vines

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  4 дня назад

      @@Parad0xaL a lot of weaken like the person above me said. It’s important to learn all the ways to weaken and rend the enemies in this game.

  • @loganharvey8086
    @loganharvey8086 7 дней назад +5

    So as a fire staff user i should just give up on the raid. Got it. Not really interested in melee or gearing out and learning a whole new playstyle.

    • @seanmilli6266
      @seanmilli6266 7 дней назад +2

      You are the player that griefs my raids/dungs

    • @loganharvey8086
      @loganharvey8086 7 дней назад +3

      @seanmilli6266 only play solo or with premade groups for dungeons so you're barking up the wrong tree

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  6 дней назад

      @@loganharvey8086 yup stay away or do pvp then.

    • @loganharvey8086
      @loganharvey8086 6 дней назад

      @@BeeBopGaming not into pvp

  • @sebastiansauer301
    @sebastiansauer301 6 дней назад +1

    Any1 on Cimmeria I help run a discord of over 200 people who all run gorgons and we don’t make you change your build we run raids every day and you don’t need any experience we are just trying to help as many people clear as possible any faction as well

  • @ashymk1241
    @ashymk1241 3 дня назад +1

    God damn batton twirlers

  • @AlwaysSaucedd
    @AlwaysSaucedd 7 дней назад +1

    Not enough rend but also not enough weaken in pugs if I’m off my game for one attack as evade rapier I get one shot with 11k health lol it’s really annoying.

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  6 дней назад +1

      @@AlwaysSaucedd yup cause they are in their safe space 100 miles away launching mortars with their Gandalf the grey staff

  • @-imbangla9069
    @-imbangla9069 6 дней назад +1

    Why u guys getting mad?! He is correct saying fire staff suck on pve except organized group on purpose. I hate when i see people using range and refuse to listen and dungeon that take 15min max end up takin 30 min or even more. Keep on mind Bebo is one of beat dps pve out there and is not only about dmg but knowing mechanics and skill itself

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  6 дней назад

      @@-imbangla9069 Salute 🫡 to you. Thanks for the compliment. I knew the video would get fs users angry, but someone had to say it. FS sucks for pve.

  • @AKZL76
    @AKZL76 6 дней назад +1

    This or the hatchet build you posted better?

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  6 дней назад

      @@AKZL76 honestly this build wasn’t maximized, but I always prefer the spear over hatchet. Far better weapon.

  • @Px9Plays
    @Px9Plays 7 дней назад +1

    Ive build my tank to bis on evrything not including serenity or gorgon gear and im sitting at 706 gs running full frigid dawn with void darkplate and blooddrinker. W/e i go in chat looking for a raid no1 is ever interested in a tank that has never doen gorgon before or they have these ridiculous demands saying i need atleast 710 gs. At this point ive pretty much given up on every doing gorgon as a tank and im not interested in doing it as a dps.I still look for a pt everyday but mehh

    • @brettfoss9318
      @brettfoss9318 7 дней назад

      Find yourself a company that does raids 🤷‍♂️ pub lobbies might not recruit you but a company would likely be willing to teach you how to gorgon

    • @Lucky-hk2oi
      @Lucky-hk2oi 7 дней назад +1

      Your a tank as a tank best advise is to make your own raid tanks usually do not join a group they make there own.

    • @kruptcy4126
      @kruptcy4126 7 дней назад

      If people won't take a tank because they want higher than 706 gs they are dumb. GS + Spear is a fine weapon combo, just need to take off the blood drinker and you'd be golden.

    • @Px9Plays
      @Px9Plays 7 дней назад

      @@kruptcy4126 I usually run gs/wh also it was my understanding that blooddrinker was bis for a tank?

    • @kruptcy4126
      @kruptcy4126 6 дней назад

      @@Px9Plays If you are playing with decent DPS the blood drinker is going to do much more harm than good.

  • @wogaboga9480
    @wogaboga9480 7 дней назад +1

    PLEASE FOR LOVE OF GOD GIVE ME A REND BOT BUILD !!!

  • @ellis2888
    @ellis2888 5 дней назад +1

    So this is a rant video 😂

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  4 дня назад +1

      @@ellis2888 old man has to yell at the clouds ☁️ sometimes. 😂

    • @ellis2888
      @ellis2888 4 дня назад

      @@BeeBopGaming hell yeah!!!

  • @AriadnaHafezOficial
    @AriadnaHafezOficial 6 дней назад +1

    Too much useless bots of fire staff on coments...

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  6 дней назад

      @@AriadnaHafezOficial They are all 🤖’s

  • @sercesco3601
    @sercesco3601 6 дней назад +2

    Go back to playing wow if you want to gate keep. This raid does not warrant such constrictions from players who can still have some fun with other builds, it’s not that hard, players like you are who lead to toxicity, get good 🎉

    • @Na-gi_
      @Na-gi_ 5 дней назад +2

      Agreed. If this keeps going on excluding people the game will die pretty fast soon

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  4 дня назад

      @@sercesco3601 it’s not gate keeping. I’ve helped many and I mean MANY noobs like yourself get through the hive. I can get through it with a lot of different builds but the POINT IS, 99% of public lobbies fail because of weak minded people like yourself. How is it gate keeping when I help give knowledge to those who don’t have correct gear? Not gate keeping it’s having standers which you new players mostly can’t handle.

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  4 дня назад

      @@Na-gi_ game will die again soon anyway and not from people like myself who HELP the community have standards and teach people how to play properly without throwing. You and the guy who commented are both weak minded which is why most lobbies absolutely suck.

    • @sercesco3601
      @sercesco3601 4 дня назад

      @@BeeBopGaming lmao showing your true colours in your reply, you seem very unhinged, you better get back on your meds, don't believe all the things the little voices in your head tell you.

  • @flonyme8174
    @flonyme8174 6 дней назад +1

    Lmao not on my server. Pc players refuse to play with console players. Have required clears from literally the first week for invites to content.

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  6 дней назад

      @@flonyme8174 I play with whoever from whatever platform. Pc players know that 99% of console players don’t know how to end game so they don’t waste time with them. Those of us who do, get labeled as gate keepers for requiring a basic level of gear

    • @flonyme8174
      @flonyme8174 6 дней назад

      @BeeBopGaming well then those pc players should have stayed on their own damn server's.

    • @LeslieSnipes
      @LeslieSnipes 4 дня назад

      Lol what server u on ? It's not like that on mine we have mixed runs all the time by now most people just know what to do

    • @flonyme8174
      @flonyme8174 4 дня назад

      @@LeslieSnipes kenorland. I'm a 708 tank and have been refused over and over because I don't have a damn token to link

  • @Omegared_o
    @Omegared_o 5 дней назад +1

    Cant lifestaff rend lol

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  4 дня назад

      @@Omegared_o you need a looooooot of rend at this level. Way too much to type.

  • @efers80
    @efers80 7 дней назад +2

    The players that know it all dont need you, thats why youre the one making a video about your failed groups. 🤣

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  6 дней назад

      @@efers80 I clear it just fine often. This video is in a random pug which absolutely sucked. I make videos because I enjoy making content and helping people learn how to play properly. My speed runs days are over and it’s all about teaching now. I had my time.

  • @jackthelad7854
    @jackthelad7854 6 дней назад +1

    WTB rend bot

  • @zkingpin69z31
    @zkingpin69z31 4 дня назад +1

    People like you is why the majority of the player base hates raids 😂 not everyone is speeding and making the sweatiest builds. I get it you could kill the bosses faster and rend is super important but come on bro if someone is pumping out good dmg with a fire staff it’s fine if it takes you 2 extra minutes to kill it lol. Calm down maybe don’t no life new world play different games and stop telling people to change their builds

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  4 дня назад

      @@zkingpin69z31 problem is, public lobbies CAN’T clear because they don’t learn the mechanics. Having range isn’t a problem, but when it’s the whole team but the Tank and myself on the boss, big problem. Try to raise standers and skills of players who play the game is different then them having weak mindsets like yourself and “hating” being told what works in this game you are new too.

  • @shabazz717
    @shabazz717 6 дней назад +1

    100% have to use melee. I have a 725 finisher bleed build and use either musket, bow, or FS depending on what the rest of the group is running. But fire staff is definitely a back up weapon in there and very helpful on the last boss for killing the flowers.

    • @BeeBopGaming
      @BeeBopGaming  4 дня назад

      @@shabazz717 exactly. I don’t have an issue with range, hell I use range a lot. They are back up off hand weapons like you said. Well said too. 🫡