Believe it or not, forty-three years after this show, I saw Kitty Carlisle on stage in SF doing her one-woman show at the Empire Plush Room. She was in her 96th year and still performing live before audiences. She sang a few songs and told stories about her early career on Broadway and in Hollywood. I'll never forget it!
Exactly... there is no way to get enough of Ustinov. His brain, humor, quick wit and rare intellect are delightful and sorely missed. Would love to listen to him and Steve Allen musing over nearly anything. Two of the brightest guys ever on the tube.
He spoke many languages, including Russian. His father, in many ways, was even more remarkable than the son. Ustinov senior was a spy in Czarist Russia's inteligence service. With the coming of the 1917 October Revolution, Ustinov senior moved to Weimar Germany and became a spy for the Abwehr. Hitler's arrival in 1933 had Ustinov senior moving onto London, where he renewed his career in espionage by joining what was to become MI5/MI6.
I once sat at the next table to Ustinov in a restaurant. No one in the place said a word - we were all eavesdropping. He is the best raconteur I ever heard - he was spellbinding. One of the great wits of the age.
Wikipedia: "On May 26, 1963, Francis was involved in a serious car accident while driving alone from a theater on Long Island to the Manhattan studio where she was expected for a live telecast of What's My Line?. The force from a car that struck her car caused her to skid on the wet surface of the Northern State Parkway, jump the highway's concrete divider and collide with a car containing five passengers, one of whom was killed. Francis suffered a broken collarbone, a concussion and many cuts and bruises."
Heidi Noack was married within a year of this episode. She married someone from West Germany, Karl Ibach. They lived in Idaho following the wedding and he became a painter, presumably a house painter, not an artist like his brother-in-law, Werner Gisin. Karl died in December 2001. They had one daughter, Andrea. It would appear that like her sister, Heidi Noack Ibach is still alive and living in Idaho Falls.
Ustinov appeared on the panel and as a mystery guest a number of times from 1957 to 1967. Really one of the brighttest, wittiest, funniest., most articulate men to ever grace WML -- in Bennett's word.
Ustinov was far bigger than just a panellist though. The greatest raconteur of his generation. One of the few people that would makes me proud of my country.
This is my second time through the episodes in order, and I noticed a ghastly omission on my part: I forgot to click "Like" the first time through. What an oversight, as this was an excellent episode despite Arlene's unfortunate absence. Kitty is a very capable stand-in.
How fascinating that Gil Hodges would lead the New York Mets to their first World Series Triumph a few years later. He was one of the finest men to ever play the game of baseball, and my hero as a boy!
In addition to his prowess as a batsman, Gil Hodges earned Gold Glove Awards at 1st Base from '57 to '59. His hope for Mets success became a self fulfilling prophecy when he guided The Amazin's to the 1969 Championship, one of the biggest upsets in World Series history.
Goodnight Peter. In one of his last interviews I got the sense he thought he didn't reach the full heights of his talents. Billy Budd was what he was most proud of.
His widow Joan still lives in the same home in Brooklyn where she and Gil lived during his Dodger playing days. I hope she'll live long enough to see him finally be inducted into the Hall of Fame because his not being in (for both playing and managing) is a glaring oversight.
In fact, the Mets posted a winning record in 1970 and 1971 as well as 1969, with Gil Hodges as manager. But he had heart trouble (I think that he suffered at least one heart attack during the 1971 season - and so did Mets (formerly White Sox) outfielder Tommie Agee), and he died of a heart attack on 4 April 1972 - right before what would have been the start of the 1972 season had there not been a players' strike.
Actually jmccracken1963, for the record Gil Hodges suffered his first heart attack in the middle of a game on September 24, 1968 at Atlanta's Fulton County Stadium while managing the Mets. I believe the one thing that contributed to his heart trouble was his chain smoking. I've heard that he tried to quit smoking after his first heart attack, but sad to say he suffered a fatal heart attack two days before his 48th birthday on April 2, 1972 (Easter Sunday) while returning to his hotel room in West Palm Beach, FL after playing a round of golf with three of his coaches.
+epaddon One of the things that endeared Gil to Brooklyn fans was that he married a woman (Joan) who was a Brooklyn native and they lived in Brooklyn year round whereas other players returned to their hometowns in Kentucky, California, Indiana, etc. Because Gil became so attached to Brooklyn and he was a man of such fine character as well as a Bronze Star winner, he became a fan favorite even though a very quiet man. It is said that he was the only player never booed by the Brooklyn fans. And when he was in a hitless streak during the 1952 World Series, practically the whole borough of Brooklyn, every Dodger fan, rallied around Gil.
@ 9:13 the question the panel member asks Gil is just pure "gold" to me considering I'm writing at the present and the question references back to over well over 50 years in Mets history. What Gil says about the Mets for his hope in the future is fascinating.
I read an article (Useless Information - The Sky is Falling, posted 1/8/2013) that said Arlene was driving on Northern State Parkway in Long Island in a fine drizzle on May 26, 1963. A car in front of her skidded and she put on her brakes. She ended up crossing the divider into head-on traffic. She hit a car carrying 5 people - the driver, the driver's wife who died, their 9-year-old daughter, and a couple in the back seat that were injured. The woman suffered a broken hip. Arlene was unconscious, had a broken collarbone, cracked ribs, a concussion, bruises, and cuts. Such a tragedy. Terri Johnson
Yes, and it would have been nice if there had been thoughts expressed for all the other people who were killed or injured more seriously than Arlene in that accident.
I see what Gary means when he said elsewhere that Dorothy was much less a camera hog in the 60's than she had been in the 50's. When Bennet opened the door to "house improvement", Dorothy zoned in on house painting within a couple of questions. A nice relief.
Gil Hodges belongs in the Baseball Hall of Fame both for his playing skill and his managerial skill. He was a very decent man also. Tom Seaver gave credit to Gil Hodges for his career. R.I.P to Gil Hodges and Tom Seaver. Gil died much too soon as he was a relatively young man when he passed. Thanks for the video.
@@stevenelief6784 If anyone needs to wake up, it is you! I wrote my comment in October 2021. He was not voted in until December 2021. Wake up yourself.
Gil Hodges ranked 11th in HR's at the time of his retirement and truly belongs in the MLB Hall of Fame, esp. when considering his managing career with the Mets.
Gil Hodges had knee problems which severely limited his playing time in the last two years of his career, both of which were spent with the New York Mets. He appeared in 54 games in 1962, playing 1st base in 47 of them (the other 7 were pinch-hitting appearances). In early 1963, he appeared in only 11 games, playing 1st base in 10 of them, and he was batting .227 (5 hits in 22 at-bats) when he retired. The Washington Senators were 14-27 when Gil Hodges succeeded Mickey Vernon as manager in late May of 1963, and they went 42-79 the rest of the season, finishing 56-106 (last in the American League, but still 5 games better than the last--in-the-National League New York Mets). The Senators' 7-6 win over the New York Yankees that afternoon, in the second game of a doubleheader (the start of said game must have been delayed because of the rain; it's listed as a night game on Baseball-Reference.com), was their only win of a four-game weekend series at Yankee Stadium, and it brought the Senators' overall record to 15-31. I think that it was very unfair (and quite tactless) of Bennett Cerf to ask Gil Hodges that question about who would win in a game between the Washington Senators and the New York Mets, considering that Gil had just retired from playing for the Mets and undoubtedly had many, many friends on the team, to say nothing of the fact that, having played for the Mets, Hodges knew more than a bit about the tendencies of the players at bat and in the field. But Gil Hodges handled the question quite well, and answered tactfully and diplomatically. And, indeed, the Washington Senators continued to improve in each of the almost 5 seasons that Hodges managed the club, which set things up quite well when Ted Williams took the reins as manager in 1969 (and the Senators posted their first winning record ever in 1969 (86-76)).
FixItYourselfAndSave -No doubt, esp when you look at the stat book and see that most oh his HR were done in just 8 seasons. That’s over 40 dingers a season!
It is rare for a team to trade a player to obtain a manager. Yet the expansion Washington Senators did just that to obtain the services of Hodges, even before he had managed one game in the major leagues. (Jimmy Pearsall, who was one of 2 mystery guests on WML on 4/28/57, was traded to the Mets for him.) Hodges was known for his keen baseball mind and knowledge of the rule book. He quickly gained the respect of umpires that if Gil brought up an obscure rule or a point about the ground rules at a particular ballpark, he was usually right. He was never thrown out of a game as a player and only 6 times during his managerial career. He was also known as a gentle man of strength, in fact one of the strongest men to play the game. He was known to break up fights between two players by picking each one up by the collar of their jerseys and dumping them on the ground. There is a story of the time when his then teammate, Don Hoak who did some prizefighting, said to Hodges: "Don't [mess] with me Hodges. These hands are lethal weapons." Hodges just picked him up and dumped him in a trash can. So there was little doubt he'd be able to control his players, the same way Dodger manager Walter Alston did in his younger days, by intimidation if necessary. And how did the Mets get him back as their manager prior to the 1968 season? By trading a player for him! But now that Hodges was a proven manager, they had to add some cash to the deal. They sent pitcher Bill Denehy and $100,000 to the Senators to get Hodges. Within two years, the Mets were World Champions. The Senators/Rangers franchise has yet to win a World Championship.
I saw Peter Ustinov on the street in Baltimore back in the 1980's, he was doing a play here. How I wish I would have said how much I admire and like him.
The Senators spent so much time at the bottom of the standings that there used to be a saying: Washington...first in war, first in peace, last in the American League.
Eaammon Andrews -- the only person in Sunday Night WML to moderate, to sit on the panel, to appear as a mystery guest between 1957 to 1963 -- in his last appearance as a guest panelist.
Lorna Badeo -She knew something about the shooting of JFK and was going to report it when she was silenced. Her finished report has never been seen! Hmmm.
@@5inthehole The Manhattan DA reopened the case based on recently published material claimed to be new evidence. They declined to prosecute. No silencing was done. It was an accidental overdose. Case closed.
I wish the commercials weren't cut out. People who don't want to view this snippet can fast forward through them, after all, but those of us that enjoy visiting how things used to be (and isn't that at least part of the pleasure of watching WML, after all?) would really like them to not be cut.
Most of the videos on this channel were collected from rebroadcasts on the Game Show Network on cable, and GSN replaced the original commercials from the 1950s and 1960s with modern commercials. So those new commercials are what have been 'cut' from the videos on this channel. When the original commercials are available from alternate sources, Gary (the owner and uploader of this channel) has often spliced them back in, showing that he agrees with your preference. Usually these episodes will have "w/ commercials" in the video title.
Dorothy's hairdos are getting more and more elaborate! Out of curiosity I searched for Voice of Broadway and found that you can read scans of the column as it appeared in newspapers on Google: www.google.com/search?q=voice%20of%20broadway%20site:news.google.com/newspapers&source=newspapers&gws_rd=ssl
druidbros He looked far more sad during the opening to the Kilgallen tribute episode. If you watch that opening Daly did, he looked like he was on the verge of actually bawling tears at multiple points.
It could be because this episode was filmed on the day Arlene Francis was in a car accident that caused the death of another person and was currently hospitalized.
I didn't know who Mr. Ustonov was. Google says he was a writer, director and actor. Quite accomplished too. Ustinov received numerous accolades including two Academy Awards, a BAFTA Award, three Emmy Awards, and a Grammy Award.
I think there scope for some slack here. Not only does Cerf keep quiet often when he has the identity of the MG way way WAY before the others but in this case Eamonn knows as much about baseball as I do ie, zilch, and I suspect he also knew that the lady on his right knew zip about it too. In which case he saved the programme from a laborious few minutes by providing the answer sotto voce. Maybe he shouldn't have but he did and for entertainment-sake I'm glad.
She did really over-do that silly hair piece perched on top with various bows and possibly living occupants peeking out. I've always thought of her hairdresser, whoever he was, to be one of the villains in her life's drama.
Dorothy looks in GOOD FETTLE again these last few episodes. Her hairdo this month wouldn't look out of place on a small spaniel-type showdog, (I'm not sure which one but I think it's a spaniel of some type) but hey!! Way to go Dot!! The most significant female journalistic voice of her generation (and one or two others) she's allowed a bad hair day or two!! :)
That was time when hairpieces were used to augment volume by hairdressers. She had a hairdresser who came to her home on a regular basis. Even Jackie Kennedy used them.
@@janetmarletto6667 There are always fashion pranks, in every time period. The trick is... Not stepping into those traps...! In retrospect you realize who made wise fashion decisions over the years... :-))
Cerf, whose son went to Hahvud, pronounces "roster" as "roaster." Roaster? I wonder if that's how the pronunciation is specified in that dictionary that Cerf publishes. Thanks for uploading this episode.
Does anyone know where I can find a complete list of British actors and British actresses who were mystery guests on the Eamonn Andrews version of "What's My Line?" from 1951 to 1963? It would be interesting to see if there are any on that list that I recognize.
Vahan Nisanian Unfortunately the BBC wiped masses and masses of tapes from the 1960s which included WML shows and a whole raft of other important items. I don't think anyone would've kept a record of what you're after....sadly. Incidentally, as a coincidence, one of the things wiped by the BBC I have an audio recording of......a sketch show starring Peter Ustinov (recorded by my father in the early sixties on quarter-inch tape by sticking a microphone in front of the TV!!) which also features Dudley Moore at the piano. There's a sketch they do together as two cockney geezers thinking up ideas for a musical version of Lady Chatterley's Lover. Hilarious!!.....as well as LOST forever by the BBC. Sheesh!!!
Speaking of the team roster, Cerf asks about "On the Roast-er" !? Where the hell does he come up with some of these pronunciations. Occasionally Daly follows him, I think to be polite, but he paused and didn't get near this one.
It's important to realize that word pronunciations change over time. I have a Webster's Third New International Dictionary (unabridged, from 1961) which I use to check on what variant pronunciations were deemed acceptable in the WML era. The usual pronunciation of räster (with a broad a sound as in 'ah') is given first, of course, but the version with a long o is listed as a "sometimes" alternative. Remember that Bennett was the oldest panel member, born in 1898, and he got much of his schooling before the First World War.
@@kentetalman9008 Very true, and also true for me. I had only known the word "mausoleum" from reading, and the first time I said it in conversation, I rhymed it with "linoleum" which got some sarcastic remarks.
Peter Ustinov was diplomatic about ''The Egyptian'' on this show, but years earlier,, he said the film was '''like being stuck in the third act of a bad ;lay and not knowing the way out.''
The Mets and the Senators were both in last place in their respective leagues. I thought Eamonn would be out of his element with a baseball guest but he asked the key question.
Publisher of Random House and Bennett makes a malapropism almost every show. "Are you on the roaster of major league team..." I think he means 'roster'.
Hodges later managed the Mets and they won the world Series with Hodges as manager in 1969. The Washington Senators were pretty poor during that time, either with Hodges as manager or a bit later with Ted Williams as manager.
Does anyone know of Kitty was always used as a standby panelist by arrangement in case either of the female panelists were unable to be there due to an emergency?
Not in any official way, but it is true that all four of her appearances on WML were as an emergency substitute -- three times filling in for Arlene (this occasion, once when Arlene was ill with measles, and once when a plane Arlene was on was delayed). The fourth occasion, of course, was the show immediately following Dorothy's death. Kitty was a panelist on To Tell The Truth, which made her part of the Goodson-Todman family, and made it easy to recruit her on short notice. However, several other people filled in for missing panelists on other occasions. There was no arrangement that Kitty would always be used.
If Arlene and Dorothy had a child she would be Kitty Carlisle :) - you can tell the energy and timing is just a little off on this night due to Arlene's accident I am sure.
Fortunately for Arlene, her luck seemed to improve after this close shave with death. Of Kitty Carlisle’s 4 panel appearances in Sunday night WML, 3 were necessitated by Arlene’s situations 1 - her chicken pox (1963), 2 - her auto wreck (1963), 3 - her inability to get to the studio due to an air flight delay (1965) Thank heaven G-T never had to find out if either Phyllis Newman, Kitty Carlisle, or someone else were, when offered the opportunity after a crisis, willing to sign long term every-Sunday-night contracts to WML Would anyone have done that in 1963?
They were a rather close knit group--literally neighbors. Kitty Carlisle and her husband Moss Hart were close friends and neighbors with Bennett Cerf, as well as Arlene Francis and her husband Martin Gable.
All The Baseball Hall of Fame is displaying, by not having Gil Hodges as one of its members, is its ineptitude of player selection to the Hall. He, along with Duke Snider, were the best 3-4 men in the game. He really didn’t start his career with Brooklyn until 1952 (He started his career in the old Pidmount Leagues) and was for the best part done by 1960. ( playing part time 61-63) but still hit 370 homers in just 8 years. Over 1400 rbi while being 1 of only a handful of players to hit 4 homers in a single game. Gil Hodges absolutely belong in any BBHOF!!! Oh I forgot he managed The 1969 Miracle Mets to the 1969 World Series!
+Brady Dog As one of the most loyal Dodger fans you will find anywhere, I agree wholeheartedly that Gil Hodges is deserving of being a member of Baseball's Hall of Fame. In addition to his slugging prowess, I will add that he is considered one of the best fielding first basemen of all time and the only reason he didn't win more Gold Glove awards was that the honor was only started near the end of his career as a starter. He won it the first three years of its existence (1957-59). I do have to amend some of your facts about his career, however. After attending St. Joseph's College for two years (including participation in their Marines ROTC program) from 1941-43, the Dodgers signed him on September 6, 1943 at age 19. Because of the shortage of players due to World War II and as the minor league seasons were pretty much over, Hodges went straight to the major leagues. He didn't get into a game until the last day of the season. The Dodgers were well out of contention in third place as the Dodgers ended the season in Cincinnati, not all that far from his hometown of Petersburg, IN. (He was born in Princeton, IN.) Manager Leo Durocher made wholesale substitutions in the bottom of the second inning, including inserting Gil at third base. His debut was inauspicious, striking out twice plus a walk and a stolen base, making 2 errors in 5 fielding chances. Upon the close of the season, Gil served in the Marine Corps as a anti-aircraft gunner and earned the Bronze Star. Returning to civilian life in 1946, this was when Gil was sent to Newport News in the Piedmont League. He was their starting catcher (future actor Chuck Connors was the first baseman on the team). In 1947, Gil made the jump all the way from a Class B league back to the majors, sharing backup catching duties with Bobby Bragan while Bruce Edwards was firmly established as the starter. in the World Series, Gil pinch hit once and struck out. Because of a flaw in his swing coupled with lack of playing time, Gil didn't make contact very often that year. Manager Leo Durocher faced a few problems in 1948 as the Dodgers defended their National League title. One of them was at first base. The Dodgers had traded starting second baseman Eddie Stanky to the Braves during the off season so they could move Jackie Robinson from first base to a more natural second base position. Rookie Preston Ward won the job in spring training and started out red hot, but by May he started to cool off. The Dodgers were forced to move Jackie back to first base and put Eddie Miksis on second. But that was just a temporary fix. Meanwhile they were also struggling behind the plate. Bruce Edwards had hurt his arm over the winter. Roy Campanella was on the opening day roster but General Manager Branch Rickey had ordered that Durocher play him sparingly. Rickey didn't want Campanella to shine too soon because the plan was to send him down to St. Paul in the American Association to be the first black player in that league. Bobby Bragan was a journeyman converted infielder. By mid-season Rickey offered him the job of managing the Dodgers farm team in Fort Worth and he accepted. For a while, that left Hodges. Once again he struggled at the plate and was benched. Edwards started, sore arm and all but he was a liability against stolen bases. On May 26, Hodges got his first start in 3 weeks and only his sixth start of the year. He went 2 for 4 with a homer against the Cubs. For a little over a month, until June 27, Hodges only appeared in games as the starting catcher, starting 28 of those games and raising his batting average from .100 to .258 with 7 home runs. The Durocher had a brainstorm, one of the last he would have as Dodger manager, but it was a beauty that changed the Dodgers' future for the better by far. He knew that eventually Campanella would be called back to Brooklyn as he was tearing up the pitchers in the American Association. He asked Hodges if he had ever played first base. The Big Marine replied that he hadn't but he'd be willing to try. He worked out there prior to a game, Durocher liked what he saw and on June 29, Hodges started the game at first base. Perhaps distracted a bit by the switch, Gil was hitless in his first four games at the first sack. But soon he started to combine hitting and fielding. The Dodgers had found their first baseman and he would stay there until the end of the 1961 season, although his legs started to bother him later in his career. He was still the starter in 1959 helping the Dodgers to another World Championship, but more and more he was rested in favor of Norm Larker. In 1960 and 1961, Larker got the bulk of the playing time. The Mets selected him in the expansion draft because they were looking for names to help fill seats. Campanella would be called up a few days after Hodges moved to first base and he also would be a key member of the Boys of Summer, their starting catcher from July 2, 1948 until they left Brooklyn. So Hodges career as a starter began in 1948, not 1952. In 1949, he started at first base in every game for the Dodgers (156 in the regular season because the Dodgers had two ties that year and all five in the World Series). He led NL first basemen in fielding percentage and tied for the team lead in homers with Duke Snider. He also made the All-Star team that year, the first of 7 consecutive years and 8 overall. He hit for the cycle that year, drove in 115 runs, drove in the only run of the game in the Dodgers only victory in that series and hit a 3-run homer in the final game of the series to bring the Dodgers back within striking distance although they fell short. It was on August 31, 1950 that Hodges hit four homers in a game (as you mentioned) against the Braves. He led the Dodgers in homers that year with 32 (one ahead of Snider and Campanella). In 1951, Hodges became the first Dodger to hit 40 homers in a season, hitting his 40th in game 2 of the tie-breaker playoff with the Giants. He was second in the league in homers that year (Ralph Kiner of the Pirates hit 42). He also tied for the league lead in games played as he appeared in all 158 Dodger games (as did Carl Furillo): 154 scheduled games, one tie and the three playoff games. And this brings us to 1952, the year you mentioned as when his career really began.
@@loissimmons6558 Thanks for that wonderful synopsis! Born in 1949, in Montreal, where the Royals were the top Dodgers farm team, I was a big Brooklyn fan as a child. Hodges was my favorite but I loved them all!
Kitty was not Arlene, but she was in her own way a tiger of a woman and quite adroit in her playing of the game and nimble in her adlibs. Especially the way she "handled" the girls equipment. Gee, that should have been Bennett's!
I always liked her, along with Peggy Cass and Bill Cullen and Garry Moore, on the syndicated version of "To Tell The Truth". I watched them so often (every night at 8 pm on WPIX-TV, Channel 11 in New York) that they felt like family to me! What a great show it was!
I always liked her, along with Garry Moore, Peggy Cass, and Bill Cullen on the syndicated (1970s) version of "To Tell The Truth". As a kid, I rarely missed an episode. Every weeknight at 8 pm on WPIX-TV Channel 11 in New York City. I watched them so often that Moore, Cass, Cullen, and Carlisle seemed like family to me.
I realize that styles change decade after decade, but Dorothy's hairstyle in this clip looks like her stylist was trying to imitate the Chrysler Building.
A double slip-up by John. Forgetting to ask if the mystery guest knows how the game is played and telling the audience and viewers their mystery. He caught it but not before the first question was asked. But it is understandable. I mean you cannot expect to remember things like that when the show hasn't yet clocked over 600 episodes, now can you? ;-)
In those days the second Senators team would probably beat the Mets on a regular basis, seeing as how the Mets fielded teams that routinely lost 100 + games a year.
Link to The Pittsburgh Press article on Arlene Francis' car accident: news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1144&dat=19630527&id=3kYqAAAAIBAJ&sjid=8U4EAAAAIBAJ&pg=7149,4281344
+TBBMusicBlog Very informative. The accident took place on the Northern State Parkway with Arlene's car having jumped the median divider when she skidded when she braked to avoid an earlier accident. Having traveled that road a number of times during that era, I am very familiar with it. It had a very low divider. In places, it wasn't much higher than a railroad rail. It was very ineffective in stopping a car from crossing over into the wrong direction in a situation like that which happened to Arlene. Here is an article about the Northern State Parkway. The first picture has a historic picture that shows the low divider I am talking about. steemit.com/history/@beowulfoflegend/ruins-of-suburbia-the-forgotten-gas-station-on-long-island-s-northern-parkway
The panel & Daly were in an awfully good mood, given Arlene's accident. I'm surprised they took it so lightly, with a person dead, and Arlene seriously injured.
Dorothy looks as if she has a hair-covered wasp’s nest on her head. Honestly she had a terrible hairdresser in this past year of shows, whoever it was.
By 1969 and 1970, the Senators were actually pretty respectable, with Ted Williams as manager. Credit must also be given to Gil Hodges for the unspectacular but steady improvement of the team during the slightly-less-than-5 seasons that he managed the Senators. But the Senators weren't drawing, the neighborhood wasn't what it had been, and Bob Short didn't have the cash to sustain the Senators, so he sold the club to a consortium of Texas investors who moved the Senators lock, stock, and barrel down to a new stadium in Arlington, Texas.
+Joe Postove Major League Baseball owners have been loath to release their financial records, especially back in those days. Even the most profitable teams would tell reporters they were losing money. Irving Rudd, the publicity man for the Brooklyn Dodgers for much of the 1950's, tells a story about how a couple of representatives of the American Legion visited Walter O'Malley to see if their youth teams could get a little more financial support from the Dodgers. At that point, the Dodgers were the most profitable team in baseball. Rudd said that O'Malley put on such a show for the Legionnaires on how much money it took to run a major league team that by the time he finished his sob story, they were almost to the point that they were going to write O'Malley a check to help the Dodgers. That said, there is a difference between a "profit-making" organization (an organization that aims to make a profit) and a "profitable" organization (one that actually is making a profit).
At this point, hours after the accident, they obviously knew a woman in the other car was killed, and four others including a child hurt. No mention from Daly about that. Well wishes should have been conveyed to them as well, not simply their fellow game player. Disappointing.
His best acting performance, bc for once he was doing double duty as director and was too busy to roll out the mannerisms and tics he normally relied on. He let Ryan take the picture.
One of the things that at times upset me was Bennet Cerf. He was constantly opening his big mouth when he should have kept quiet and giving things away. I never understood why the producers let him get away with that thru the years. When Gil Hodges was on, he just blurted it out when the other panelist was talking.
I totally agree. It was pure bad manners to interupt Eammon Andrews & John Daly was obviously not pleased. Having watched many of these episodes, Bennet does not like people talking over him when it's his turn, but has repeatedly done this throughout the series. I enjoy watching these but Bennets behaviour has spoiled my enjoyment of a number of episodes.
Did women have more hair in the 60's? Some of these women have so much hair (I'm not talking about whatever is on Dorothy's head), but just in general, women seem to have these luxurious, full and heads of thick hair.
Bennett did it again! This time he asks Gil Hodges if he's on the "roaster" of a big league baseball team. First Bennett, Gil is not a baked chicken and second it's "ROSTER", Mr. Publishing magnate!
Galileocan g The oral faux pas of Bennett Cerf (in this video upload) to which you allude may be due to one of two reasons. First, and more simply, it could have been just a case of the old "potato/potahto" or "tomato/tomahto" scenario. Many words commonly have dual pronunciations, including (off the top of my head) "either," "neither," "measure," and "roof." So perhaps "roster" may be heard as either "roaster" or "rosster." These dual pronouncement situations typically involve the choice between a hard or soft vowel pronunciation. The other explanation for Mr. Cerf's out-of-the-norm pronunciation of the word "roster" may have been a speech impediment. I read somewhere (perhaps in "What's My Line?: The Inside History of TV's Most Famous Panel Show" by the show's producer, Gil Fates) a certain breeding of New York Jew, from which Cerf was derived, are known to have a speech impediment involving the pronunciation of certain word sounds. This explanation could also be the rationale behind television broadcaster Barbara Walters' rather pronounced (pun intended) lisp, an impediment typically involving mispronunciation of sibilant words, such that the letter "S" sounds like "th" (as in "thick") and the letter "Z" also like "th" (but as in "this"); also sometimes mispronunciation of words with a soft "R" as "w," so "Cary Grant" sounds like "Ca-wee Gwant." Since Mr. Cerf had an obvious impediment, taking him to task for it is rather like faulting a person for having red hair or a cleft in one's chin. But obviously you wouldn't be the first person to exhibit an unkindness to those with speech problems. NBC-TV's "Saturday Night Live" featured a now-infamous series of sketches in which the late comedienne Gilda Radner lampooned Miss Walters' impediment as the character "Baba Wawa."
Galileocan g Merriam-Webster lists two alternate pronunciations in their dictionary, and if I'm not mistaken, one of those does match what Bennett is saying. www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/roster A different dialect from yours is not the same as a mistake.
Bennett Cerf is the only American person in movies, television or any media I have watched where he typical pronounces words completely different than that of the general population. There seems to be great sensitivity to this on you tube. This goes beyond tomato and to-mah-to. These are pronunciations that may be your dictionary, but I don't believe have been used in common conversation in maybe the last 200 years. He said things like "Pittsa" for Pizza and "Heelo Copter" for Helicopter amongst many more. He often pronounced people's names incorrectly. I'm afraid the cold reality was that Bennett I believe had a speech impediment of some sort - this wasn't a dialect issue
+Galileocan g If you know he had a speech impediment- something you can't just "think" or "know better" your way out of- then why are you giving him shit for it? He's not CHOOSING to do it.
Bennett could be dense or unfeeling or was it just looking for a laugh, uncomfortable or not, because relegating the Irish situation to ' a little disagreement ' sounds incredibly boorish.
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Believe it or not, forty-three years after this show, I saw Kitty Carlisle on stage in SF doing her one-woman show at the Empire Plush Room. She was in her 96th year and still performing live before audiences. She sang a few songs and told stories about her early career on Broadway and in Hollywood. I'll never forget it!
Exactly... there is no way to get enough of Ustinov. His brain, humor, quick wit and rare intellect are delightful and sorely missed. Would love to listen to him and Steve Allen musing over nearly anything. Two of the brightest guys ever on the tube.
Jim Griffin Hear hear.
I just finished reading Ustinov's autobiography, "Dear Me". I loved it and highly recommend it to you.
Peter Ustinov was married to Angela Lansbury's Sister, Isolde...
He spoke many languages, including Russian. His father, in many ways, was even more remarkable than the son. Ustinov senior was a spy in Czarist Russia's inteligence service. With the coming of the 1917 October Revolution, Ustinov senior moved to Weimar Germany and became a spy for the Abwehr. Hitler's arrival in 1933 had Ustinov senior moving onto London, where he renewed his career in espionage by joining what was to become MI5/MI6.
Yes, Peter Ustinov was a gift to humanity in many ways. If he could have lived forever our lives would have been forever enriched.
I once sat at the next table to Ustinov in a restaurant. No one in the place said a word - we were all eavesdropping. He is the best raconteur I ever heard - he was spellbinding. One of the great wits of the age.
My mother had a similar experience, but it was the actor Wally Cox.
@@Gwaithmir peter ustinov
@@Gwaithmir That's interesting. I never would have thought that Wally Cox would be so engaging! I'm glad you shared that with us.
Richard Harris was the best.
@@Gwaithmir Of whom Brando said: If Wally was a woman, I would have married him. Their ashes were mingled and scattered together.
Wikipedia: "On May 26, 1963, Francis was involved in a serious car accident while driving alone from a theater on Long Island to the Manhattan studio where she was expected for a live telecast of What's My Line?. The force from a car that struck her car caused her to skid on the wet surface of the Northern State Parkway, jump the highway's concrete divider and collide with a car containing five passengers, one of whom was killed. Francis suffered a broken collarbone, a concussion and many cuts and bruises."
😞
The concussion, being a brain injury, may possibly have been the very unfortunate start of poor Arlene's eventual Alzheimer's affliction.
So sad to hear! I admired her so much! ☹️
When did she pass away?
@@kevinmadden1645in 2001
Heidi Noack was married within a year of this episode. She married someone from West Germany, Karl Ibach. They lived in Idaho following the wedding and he became a painter, presumably a house painter, not an artist like his brother-in-law, Werner Gisin. Karl died in December 2001. They had one daughter, Andrea.
It would appear that like her sister, Heidi Noack Ibach is still alive and living in Idaho Falls.
My grandfather served with Gil in World War II. A great man
He was considered by all who knew him to be a man of fine character.
Gil Hodges just made the hall of fame today everyone
I miss Arlene, but Kitty is great too. And Eamonn Andrews is wonderful every time he appears on WML!
Ustinov appeared on the panel and as a mystery guest a number of times from 1957 to 1967. Really one of the brighttest, wittiest, funniest., most articulate men to ever grace WML -- in Bennett's word.
he was also an ambassador for Unicef
Ustinov was far bigger than just a panellist though. The greatest raconteur of his generation. One of the few people that would makes me proud of my country.
This is my second time through the episodes in order, and I noticed a ghastly omission on my part: I forgot to click "Like" the first time through. What an oversight, as this was an excellent episode despite Arlene's unfortunate absence. Kitty is a very capable stand-in.
I've never heard Peter Ustinov use that voice before. I nearly spat water over my computer when he started talking!
He was a man of many voices and languages...
How fascinating that Gil Hodges would lead the New York Mets to their first World Series Triumph a few years later. He was one of the finest men to ever play the game of baseball, and my hero as a boy!
Of the 1969 New York Mets, Gilbert Raymond Hodges, the manager of the team, is the only one of the NY Mets who is not in the Baseball Hall of Fame
@@jimgeiser1570 That changed recently! Gil Is In!!!
@@jimgeiser1570 Not all the '69 Mets are in the Hall of Fame.
In addition to his prowess as a batsman, Gil Hodges earned Gold Glove Awards at 1st Base from '57 to '59. His hope for Mets success became a self fulfilling prophecy when he guided The Amazin's to the 1969 Championship, one of the biggest upsets in World Series history.
Gil Hodges would have won many more Gold Gloves as a first baseman--but the award didn't exist for most of his career.
I just Peter Ustinov he's such a witty man, wonderful actor…… Thanks for this post.
EDITH SYMMANS You're very welcome-- I'm glad you enjoyed it.
There’s just something so classy and special about ladies from this era. I love Dorothy, Arlene, and Kitty!
Kitty Carlisle was an elegant, classy lady! Loved seeing her!
She was a great champion of the arts...
@@randysills4418 Married to Moss Hart.
loved her in Gunpowder. great show.
Goodnight Peter. In one of his last interviews I got the sense he thought he didn't reach the full heights of his talents. Billy Budd was what he was most proud of.
How wonderful and cozy this is.
Gil Hodges later returned to manage the Mets, and led the "Miracle Mets" to the 1969 World Series. By all accounts, a decent and fine man.
His widow Joan still lives in the same home in Brooklyn where she and Gil lived during his Dodger playing days. I hope she'll live long enough to see him finally be inducted into the Hall of Fame because his not being in (for both playing and managing) is a glaring oversight.
epaddon Absolutely. It's a disgrace that Gil Hodges isn't in the Hall of Fame!
In fact, the Mets posted a winning record in 1970 and 1971 as well as 1969, with Gil Hodges as manager. But he had heart trouble (I think that he suffered at least one heart attack during the 1971 season - and so did Mets (formerly White Sox) outfielder Tommie Agee), and he died of a heart attack on 4 April 1972 - right before what would have been the start of the 1972 season had there not been a players' strike.
Actually jmccracken1963, for the record Gil Hodges suffered his first heart attack in the middle of a game on September 24, 1968 at Atlanta's Fulton County Stadium while managing the Mets. I believe the one thing that contributed to his heart trouble was his chain smoking. I've heard that he tried to quit smoking after his first heart attack, but sad to say he suffered a fatal heart attack two days before his 48th birthday on April 2, 1972 (Easter Sunday) while returning to his hotel room in West Palm Beach, FL after playing a round of golf with three of his coaches.
+epaddon
One of the things that endeared Gil to Brooklyn fans was that he married a woman (Joan) who was a Brooklyn native and they lived in Brooklyn year round whereas other players returned to their hometowns in Kentucky, California, Indiana, etc.
Because Gil became so attached to Brooklyn and he was a man of such fine character as well as a Bronze Star winner, he became a fan favorite even though a very quiet man. It is said that he was the only player never booed by the Brooklyn fans. And when he was in a hitless streak during the 1952 World Series, practically the whole borough of Brooklyn, every Dodger fan, rallied around Gil.
Watching this on Gil Hodges 94th Birthday.
@ 9:13 the question the panel member asks Gil is just pure "gold" to me considering I'm writing at the present and the question references back to over well over 50 years in Mets history. What Gil says about the Mets for his hope in the future is fascinating.
I read an article (Useless Information - The Sky is Falling, posted 1/8/2013) that said Arlene was driving on Northern State Parkway in Long Island in a fine drizzle on May 26, 1963. A car in front of her skidded and she put on her brakes. She ended up crossing the divider into head-on traffic. She hit a car carrying 5 people - the driver, the driver's wife who died, their 9-year-old daughter, and a couple in the back seat that were injured. The woman suffered a broken hip. Arlene was unconscious, had a broken collarbone, cracked ribs, a concussion, bruises, and cuts. Such a tragedy. Terri Johnson
Yes, and it would have been nice if there had been thoughts expressed for all the other people who were killed or injured more seriously than Arlene in that accident.
Eamonn Andrews was also on the 6/26/60 show after the dumbbell incident. he was kind of Arlene's jinx.
I see what Gary means when he said elsewhere that Dorothy was much less a camera hog in the 60's than she had been in the 50's.
When Bennet opened the door to "house improvement", Dorothy zoned in on house painting within a couple of questions.
A nice relief.
every time Peter is on as the Mystery Guest the final question to him is "do you have some sort of beard?"
Gil Hodges belongs in the Baseball Hall of Fame both for his playing skill and his managerial skill. He was a very decent man also. Tom Seaver gave credit to Gil Hodges for his career. R.I.P to Gil Hodges and Tom Seaver. Gil died much too soon as he was a relatively young man when he passed. Thanks for the video.
HES IN
He is in the Baseball Hall of Fame, inducted 2022.
Wake up.
@@stevenelief6784 If anyone needs to wake up, it is you! I wrote my comment in October 2021. He was not voted in until December 2021. Wake up yourself.
Interesting/odd that Eamonn Andrews was also on the panel the first show after the dumbell incident. Arlene was in attendance that evening, though.
What a wonderful mystery guest Gil was on this show.
Gil Hodges ranked 11th in HR's at the time of his retirement and truly belongs in the MLB Hall of Fame, esp. when considering his managing career with the Mets.
Gil Hodges had knee problems which severely limited his playing time in the last two years of his career, both of which were spent with the New York Mets. He appeared in 54 games in 1962, playing 1st base in 47 of them (the other 7 were pinch-hitting appearances). In early 1963, he appeared in only 11 games, playing 1st base in 10 of them, and he was batting .227 (5 hits in 22 at-bats) when he retired.
The Washington Senators were 14-27 when Gil Hodges succeeded Mickey Vernon as manager in late May of 1963, and they went 42-79 the rest of the season, finishing 56-106 (last in the American League, but still 5 games better than the last--in-the-National League New York Mets). The Senators' 7-6 win over the New York Yankees that afternoon, in the second game of a doubleheader (the start of said game must have been delayed because of the rain; it's listed as a night game on Baseball-Reference.com), was their only win of a four-game weekend series at Yankee Stadium, and it brought the Senators' overall record to 15-31.
I think that it was very unfair (and quite tactless) of Bennett Cerf to ask Gil Hodges that question about who would win in a game between the Washington Senators and the New York Mets, considering that Gil had just retired from playing for the Mets and undoubtedly had many, many friends on the team, to say nothing of the fact that, having played for the Mets, Hodges knew more than a bit about the tendencies of the players at bat and in the field. But Gil Hodges handled the question quite well, and answered tactfully and diplomatically.
And, indeed, the Washington Senators continued to improve in each of the almost 5 seasons that Hodges managed the club, which set things up quite well when Ted Williams took the reins as manager in 1969 (and the Senators posted their first winning record ever in 1969 (86-76)).
FixItYourselfAndSave -No doubt, esp when you look at the stat book and see that most oh his HR were done in just 8 seasons. That’s over 40 dingers a season!
He was also the best defensive first baseman in MLB in the days before the Gold Glove awards existed.
It is rare for a team to trade a player to obtain a manager. Yet the expansion Washington Senators did just that to obtain the services of Hodges, even before he had managed one game in the major leagues. (Jimmy Pearsall, who was one of 2 mystery guests on WML on 4/28/57, was traded to the Mets for him.)
Hodges was known for his keen baseball mind and knowledge of the rule book. He quickly gained the respect of umpires that if Gil brought up an obscure rule or a point about the ground rules at a particular ballpark, he was usually right. He was never thrown out of a game as a player and only 6 times during his managerial career.
He was also known as a gentle man of strength, in fact one of the strongest men to play the game. He was known to break up fights between two players by picking each one up by the collar of their jerseys and dumping them on the ground. There is a story of the time when his then teammate, Don Hoak who did some prizefighting, said to Hodges: "Don't [mess] with me Hodges. These hands are lethal weapons." Hodges just picked him up and dumped him in a trash can. So there was little doubt he'd be able to control his players, the same way Dodger manager Walter Alston did in his younger days, by intimidation if necessary.
And how did the Mets get him back as their manager prior to the 1968 season? By trading a player for him! But now that Hodges was a proven manager, they had to add some cash to the deal. They sent pitcher Bill Denehy and $100,000 to the Senators to get Hodges. Within two years, the Mets were World Champions. The Senators/Rangers franchise has yet to win a World Championship.
When Hodges's retired, he was the all-time National League right handed home run hitter
It's remarkable how much Kitty resembles Arlene. Even how she enunciates words and her body language.
I don't think in looks but yes, her mannerisms and speaking.
Kitty was a highly refined lady with the most exquisite taste in dresses. Their fit was perfection.
I thought it was her sister or something!
Gil Hodges was also a hero of World War II in the Pacific.
I saw Peter Ustinov on the street in Baltimore back in the 1980's, he was doing a play here. How I wish I would have said how much I admire and like him.
*_GIL HODGES, MANAGER OF WASHINGTON SENATORS BASEBALL TEAM_*
*_HOUSE PAINTERS_*
The Senators spent so much time at the bottom of the standings that there used to be a saying: Washington...first in war, first in peace, last in the American League.
Gil Hodges made the Hall of Fame on December 5th, 2021!
Gil Hodges is pure class. So glad he's in the Hall of Fame where he belongs!
Eaammon Andrews -- the only person in Sunday Night WML to moderate, to sit on the panel, to appear as a mystery guest between 1957 to 1963 -- in his last appearance as a guest panelist.
@Mary C But as soulierinvestments correctly points out, Eamon Andrews was also a panelist, which John never was
Gil Hodges one of the most underated talents. Won a World Series as a player & a manager⚾️🥎😀
When in a good place, Dorothy could breeze through most of the lines. I've noticed she is sometimes quite clinical in her thinking.
no doubt from her training as a crime scene reporter.
Lorna Badeo -She knew something about the shooting of JFK and was going to report it when she was silenced. Her finished report has never been seen! Hmmm.
@@5inthehole The Manhattan DA reopened the case based on recently published material claimed to be new evidence. They declined to prosecute. No silencing was done. It was an accidental overdose. Case closed.
preppy socks -You must believe in Santa Clause also.
She was more than a crime scene reporter......
"One of the greatest woman writers in the world." (Ernest Hemingway)
I wish the commercials weren't cut out. People who don't want to view this snippet can fast forward through them, after all, but those of us that enjoy visiting how things used to be (and isn't that at least part of the pleasure of watching WML, after all?) would really like them to not be cut.
Most of the videos on this channel were collected from rebroadcasts on the Game Show Network on cable, and GSN replaced the original commercials from the 1950s and 1960s with modern commercials. So those new commercials are what have been 'cut' from the videos on this channel. When the original commercials are available from alternate sources, Gary (the owner and uploader of this channel) has often spliced them back in, showing that he agrees with your preference. Usually these episodes will have "w/ commercials" in the video title.
One of Peter’s lesser known films, but one of my favorites is “ Hot Millions.”
It is a charming film, isn't it?
I love Kitty Carlisle - she just makes a room happier
Crazy that Gil wasn't elected into the hall of fame until 2021.
Dorothy's hairdos are getting more and more elaborate!
Out of curiosity I searched for Voice of Broadway and found that you can read scans of the column as it appeared in newspapers on Google: www.google.com/search?q=voice%20of%20broadway%20site:news.google.com/newspapers&source=newspapers&gws_rd=ssl
Dorothy often wore wigs.
Good episode but I could detect in John's voice there was a sadness present. He just didnt seem to be himself.
druidbros He looked far more sad during the opening to the Kilgallen tribute episode.
If you watch that opening Daly did, he looked like he was on the verge of actually bawling tears at multiple points.
It could be because this episode was filmed on the day Arlene Francis was in a car accident that caused the death of another person and was currently hospitalized.
Arlene's car accident!
He was distracted worrying about Arlene...they considered themselves all family
I didn't know who Mr. Ustonov was. Google says he was a writer, director and actor. Quite accomplished too.
Ustinov received numerous accolades including two Academy Awards, a BAFTA Award, three Emmy Awards, and a Grammy Award.
It would appear that in Arlene's absence, Dorothy was crowned Queen for a Day.
Bennett annoying me again. Shouting out 'Gil Hodges' when it was Eamonns turn.
Yeah... he definitely liked being the one that guessed it right rather than being gracious and humble. Not necessarily an attractive quality.
I think there scope for some slack here. Not only does Cerf keep quiet often when he has the identity of the MG way way WAY before the others but in this case Eamonn knows as much about baseball as I do ie, zilch, and I suspect he also knew that the lady on his right knew zip about it too. In which case he saved the programme from a laborious few minutes by providing the answer sotto voce. Maybe he shouldn't have but he did and for entertainment-sake I'm glad.
And people wonder why Daily flips all the cards to 50
@@davidsanderson5918 Cerf was a big baseball fan of NYC teams and he couldn't control his excitement when he realized it was a former Brooklyn Dodger!
He is SO annoying
Someone really should’ve told Dorothy that there’s a family nesting in her hair 🐦 🐦 🐦
She did really over-do that silly hair piece perched on top with various bows and possibly living occupants peeking out. I've always thought of her hairdresser, whoever he was, to be one of the villains in her life's drama.
Glad he posthumously got inducted in the HOF and thank you Gil for 1969 as well!
Dorothy looks in GOOD FETTLE again these last few episodes. Her hairdo this month wouldn't look out of place on a small spaniel-type showdog, (I'm not sure which one but I think it's a spaniel of some type) but hey!! Way to go Dot!! The most significant female journalistic voice of her generation (and one or two others) she's allowed a bad hair day or two!! :)
That was time when hairpieces were used to augment volume by hairdressers. She had a hairdresser who came to her home on a regular basis. Even Jackie Kennedy used them.
@@janetmarletto6667
There are always fashion pranks, in every time period.
The trick is... Not stepping into those traps...!
In retrospect you realize who made wise fashion decisions over the years... :-))
Don't mess with Dorothy
Randy Lovering Yeah man. She's formidable. Even the judge at Ruby's trial asked for her autograph.
@@davidsanderson5918 👐
Heck of a hair do on Dorothy!
Tom O'Connor It needs some wildlife in it to top it off.
Cerf, whose son went to Hahvud, pronounces "roster" as "roaster." Roaster? I wonder if that's how the pronunciation is specified in that dictionary that Cerf publishes.
Thanks for uploading this episode.
Human sacrifices performed atop Dorothy Kilgalan's Mayan hair.
Does anyone know where I can find a complete list of British actors and British actresses who were mystery guests on the Eamonn Andrews version of "What's My Line?" from 1951 to 1963?
It would be interesting to see if there are any on that list that I recognize.
Vahan Nisanian Unfortunately the BBC wiped masses and masses of tapes from the 1960s which included WML shows and a whole raft of other important items. I don't think anyone would've kept a record of what you're after....sadly.
Incidentally, as a coincidence, one of the things wiped by the BBC I have an audio recording of......a sketch show starring Peter Ustinov (recorded by my father in the early sixties on quarter-inch tape by sticking a microphone in front of the TV!!) which also features Dudley Moore at the piano. There's a sketch they do together as two cockney geezers thinking up ideas for a musical version of Lady Chatterley's Lover. Hilarious!!.....as well as LOST forever by the BBC. Sheesh!!!
Kitty Carlisle is wild, you never know what she's going to say. Lol!
"Standard girl equipment." (!)
12:05 Dorothy-your hair is amazing!!!
Speaking of the team roster, Cerf asks about "On the Roast-er" !? Where the hell does he come up with some of these pronunciations. Occasionally Daly follows him, I think to be polite, but he paused and didn't get near this one.
+Michael Danello
Daly diplomatically found a way to avoid using the word entirely rather than mispronounce the word or embarrass Cerf.
It's important to realize that word pronunciations change over time. I have a Webster's Third New International Dictionary (unabridged, from 1961) which I use to check on what variant pronunciations were deemed acceptable in the WML era. The usual pronunciation of räster (with a broad a sound as in 'ah') is given first, of course, but the version with a long o is listed as a "sometimes" alternative. Remember that Bennett was the oldest panel member, born in 1898, and he got much of his schooling before the First World War.
@@neilmidkiff Also remember that Bennett, being an habitual reader, learned new words by reading them, not hearing them spoken.
@@kentetalman9008 Very true, and also true for me. I had only known the word "mausoleum" from reading, and the first time I said it in conversation, I rhymed it with "linoleum" which got some sarcastic remarks.
Peter Ustinov was diplomatic about ''The Egyptian'' on this show, but years earlier,, he said the film was '''like being stuck in the third act of a bad ;lay and not knowing the way out.''
The Mets and the Senators were both in last place in their respective leagues. I thought Eamonn would be out of his element with a baseball guest but he asked the key question.
@@loissimmons6558 no, since the panel was blindfolded, he could not have thought he looked too old to be a player -- he just had a hunch
Publisher of Random House and Bennett makes a malapropism almost every show. "Are you on the roaster of major league team..." I think he means 'roster'.
Damn Peter had true wit
Hodges later managed the Mets and they won the world Series with Hodges as manager in 1969. The Washington Senators were pretty poor during that time, either with Hodges as manager or a bit later with Ted Williams as manager.
Does anyone know of Kitty was always used as a standby panelist by arrangement in case either of the female panelists were unable to be there due to an emergency?
Not in any official way, but it is true that all four of her appearances on WML were as an emergency substitute -- three times filling in for Arlene (this occasion, once when Arlene was ill with measles, and once when a plane Arlene was on was delayed). The fourth occasion, of course, was the show immediately following Dorothy's death. Kitty was a panelist on To Tell The Truth, which made her part of the Goodson-Todman family, and made it easy to recruit her on short notice.
However, several other people filled in for missing panelists on other occasions. There was no arrangement that Kitty would always be used.
If Arlene and Dorothy had a child she would be Kitty Carlisle :) - you can tell the energy and timing is just a little off on this night due to Arlene's accident I am sure.
Fortunately for Arlene, her luck seemed to improve after this close shave with death.
Of Kitty Carlisle’s 4 panel appearances in Sunday night WML, 3 were necessitated by Arlene’s situations 1 - her chicken pox (1963), 2 - her auto wreck (1963), 3 - her inability to get to the studio due to an air flight delay (1965)
Thank heaven G-T never had to find out if either Phyllis Newman, Kitty Carlisle, or someone else were, when offered the opportunity after a crisis, willing to sign long term every-Sunday-night contracts to WML Would anyone have done that in 1963?
They were a rather close knit group--literally neighbors. Kitty Carlisle and her husband Moss Hart were close friends and neighbors with Bennett Cerf, as well as Arlene Francis and her husband Martin Gable.
The fourth was filling in after Dorothy's death
All The Baseball Hall of Fame is displaying, by not having Gil Hodges as one of its members, is its ineptitude of player selection to the Hall. He, along with Duke Snider, were the best 3-4 men in the game. He really didn’t start his career with Brooklyn until 1952 (He started his career in the old Pidmount Leagues) and was for the best part done by 1960. ( playing part time 61-63) but still hit 370 homers in just 8 years. Over 1400 rbi while being 1 of only a handful of players to hit 4 homers in a single game. Gil Hodges absolutely belong in any BBHOF!!! Oh I forgot he managed The 1969 Miracle Mets to the 1969 World Series!
+Brady Dog
As one of the most loyal Dodger fans you will find anywhere, I agree wholeheartedly that Gil Hodges is deserving of being a member of Baseball's Hall of Fame. In addition to his slugging prowess, I will add that he is considered one of the best fielding first basemen of all time and the only reason he didn't win more Gold Glove awards was that the honor was only started near the end of his career as a starter. He won it the first three years of its existence (1957-59).
I do have to amend some of your facts about his career, however. After attending St. Joseph's College for two years (including participation in their Marines ROTC program) from 1941-43, the Dodgers signed him on September 6, 1943 at age 19. Because of the shortage of players due to World War II and as the minor league seasons were pretty much over, Hodges went straight to the major leagues. He didn't get into a game until the last day of the season. The Dodgers were well out of contention in third place as the Dodgers ended the season in Cincinnati, not all that far from his hometown of Petersburg, IN. (He was born in Princeton, IN.) Manager Leo Durocher made wholesale substitutions in the bottom of the second inning, including inserting Gil at third base. His debut was inauspicious, striking out twice plus a walk and a stolen base, making 2 errors in 5 fielding chances.
Upon the close of the season, Gil served in the Marine Corps as a anti-aircraft gunner and earned the Bronze Star.
Returning to civilian life in 1946, this was when Gil was sent to Newport News in the Piedmont League. He was their starting catcher (future actor Chuck Connors was the first baseman on the team).
In 1947, Gil made the jump all the way from a Class B league back to the majors, sharing backup catching duties with Bobby Bragan while Bruce Edwards was firmly established as the starter. in the World Series, Gil pinch hit once and struck out. Because of a flaw in his swing coupled with lack of playing time, Gil didn't make contact very often that year.
Manager Leo Durocher faced a few problems in 1948 as the Dodgers defended their National League title. One of them was at first base. The Dodgers had traded starting second baseman Eddie Stanky to the Braves during the off season so they could move Jackie Robinson from first base to a more natural second base position. Rookie Preston Ward won the job in spring training and started out red hot, but by May he started to cool off. The Dodgers were forced to move Jackie back to first base and put Eddie Miksis on second. But that was just a temporary fix.
Meanwhile they were also struggling behind the plate. Bruce Edwards had hurt his arm over the winter. Roy Campanella was on the opening day roster but General Manager Branch Rickey had ordered that Durocher play him sparingly. Rickey didn't want Campanella to shine too soon because the plan was to send him down to St. Paul in the American Association to be the first black player in that league. Bobby Bragan was a journeyman converted infielder. By mid-season Rickey offered him the job of managing the Dodgers farm team in Fort Worth and he accepted. For a while, that left Hodges. Once again he struggled at the plate and was benched. Edwards started, sore arm and all but he was a liability against stolen bases. On May 26, Hodges got his first start in 3 weeks and only his sixth start of the year. He went 2 for 4 with a homer against the Cubs. For a little over a month, until June 27, Hodges only appeared in games as the starting catcher, starting 28 of those games and raising his batting average from .100 to .258 with 7 home runs.
The Durocher had a brainstorm, one of the last he would have as Dodger manager, but it was a beauty that changed the Dodgers' future for the better by far. He knew that eventually Campanella would be called back to Brooklyn as he was tearing up the pitchers in the American Association. He asked Hodges if he had ever played first base. The Big Marine replied that he hadn't but he'd be willing to try. He worked out there prior to a game, Durocher liked what he saw and on June 29, Hodges started the game at first base. Perhaps distracted a bit by the switch, Gil was hitless in his first four games at the first sack. But soon he started to combine hitting and fielding. The Dodgers had found their first baseman and he would stay there until the end of the 1961 season, although his legs started to bother him later in his career. He was still the starter in 1959 helping the Dodgers to another World Championship, but more and more he was rested in favor of Norm Larker. In 1960 and 1961, Larker got the bulk of the playing time. The Mets selected him in the expansion draft because they were looking for names to help fill seats.
Campanella would be called up a few days after Hodges moved to first base and he also would be a key member of the Boys of Summer, their starting catcher from July 2, 1948 until they left Brooklyn.
So Hodges career as a starter began in 1948, not 1952. In 1949, he started at first base in every game for the Dodgers (156 in the regular season because the Dodgers had two ties that year and all five in the World Series). He led NL first basemen in fielding percentage and tied for the team lead in homers with Duke Snider. He also made the All-Star team that year, the first of 7 consecutive years and 8 overall. He hit for the cycle that year, drove in 115 runs, drove in the only run of the game in the Dodgers only victory in that series and hit a 3-run homer in the final game of the series to bring the Dodgers back within striking distance although they fell short.
It was on August 31, 1950 that Hodges hit four homers in a game (as you mentioned) against the Braves. He led the Dodgers in homers that year with 32 (one ahead of Snider and Campanella).
In 1951, Hodges became the first Dodger to hit 40 homers in a season, hitting his 40th in game 2 of the tie-breaker playoff with the Giants. He was second in the league in homers that year (Ralph Kiner of the Pirates hit 42). He also tied for the league lead in games played as he appeared in all 158 Dodger games (as did Carl Furillo): 154 scheduled games, one tie and the three playoff games. And this brings us to 1952, the year you mentioned as when his career really began.
I wish someone would come along and lead the Mets to another long awaited World Series title.
@@loissimmons6558 Thanks for that wonderful synopsis! Born in 1949, in Montreal, where the Royals were the top Dodgers farm team, I was a big Brooklyn fan as a child. Hodges was my favorite but I loved them all!
Kitty was not Arlene, but she was in her own way a tiger of a woman and quite adroit in her playing of the game and nimble in her adlibs. Especially the way she "handled" the girls equipment. Gee, that should have been Bennett's!
I always liked her, along with Peggy Cass and Bill Cullen and Garry Moore, on the syndicated version of "To Tell The Truth". I watched them so often (every night at 8 pm on WPIX-TV, Channel 11 in New York) that they felt like family to me! What a great show it was!
Kitty Carlisle lived to be 96 years old, born in 1910.
Rare to see Kitty Carlisle play "What's My Line".
I always liked her, along with Garry Moore, Peggy Cass, and Bill Cullen on the syndicated (1970s) version of "To Tell The Truth". As a kid, I rarely missed an episode. Every weeknight at 8 pm on WPIX-TV Channel 11 in New York City. I watched them so often that Moore, Cass, Cullen, and Carlisle seemed like family to me.
I know. I can't believe it! twice in a month
Bennett was caught in the act of premature enunciation.
Funny!
I realize that styles change decade after decade, but Dorothy's hairstyle in this clip looks like her stylist was trying to imitate the Chrysler Building.
Let's hope there's not a winged serpent living at the top.
A double slip-up by John. Forgetting to ask if the mystery guest knows how the game is played and telling the audience and viewers their mystery. He caught it but not before the first question was asked. But it is understandable. I mean you cannot expect to remember things like that when the show hasn't yet clocked over 600 episodes, now can you? ;-)
Arlene was just in a major accident !!! Pretty sure he was somewhat distracted...for God's sake..I think we could forgive him
In those days the second Senators team would probably beat the Mets on a regular basis, seeing as how the Mets fielded teams that routinely lost 100 + games a year.
What a shame that Hodges was only 47 when he died.
Link to The Pittsburgh Press article on Arlene Francis' car accident: news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1144&dat=19630527&id=3kYqAAAAIBAJ&sjid=8U4EAAAAIBAJ&pg=7149,4281344
+TBBMusicBlog
Very informative. The accident took place on the Northern State Parkway with Arlene's car having jumped the median divider when she skidded when she braked to avoid an earlier accident. Having traveled that road a number of times during that era, I am very familiar with it. It had a very low divider. In places, it wasn't much higher than a railroad rail. It was very ineffective in stopping a car from crossing over into the wrong direction in a situation like that which happened to Arlene.
Here is an article about the Northern State Parkway. The first picture has a historic picture that shows the low divider I am talking about.
steemit.com/history/@beowulfoflegend/ruins-of-suburbia-the-forgotten-gas-station-on-long-island-s-northern-parkway
The panel & Daly were in an awfully good mood, given Arlene's accident. I'm surprised they took it so lightly, with a person dead, and Arlene seriously injured.
Was it known at that time that someone died in the accident?
Their job was to be upbeat.
Fair play to Dorothy
Why wasnt Arlene Francis ever the Mystery Guest?
Dorothy looks as if she has a hair-covered wasp’s nest on her head. Honestly she had a terrible hairdresser in this past year of shows, whoever it was.
Gary Zerr Would look great on a diminutive showdog at Crufts though!
6:09 "he has a delicous sexy voice" Kitty wants some of that LOL
I'm sure that Joan Hodges (Gil's wife) would have had something to say about that first!
Is it my imagination, or was the housepainter on the left showing a little pink when they signed in?
Kenneth Butler "Standard girl equipment" as Miss Carlisle says.
Mike Rowe oh how times have changed.
Not sure why Bennett thinks that he can make disparaging remarks about the Irish. Imagine the uproar if the situation were reversed.
Kitty Carlisle was a doll
Hahaha. Look at kilgallens hair. Looks like she’s taken a lead from the pyramids 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ha! I wonder if the Washington Senators were indeed a profit making organization?
Joe Postove That franchise is today's Texas Rangers.
By 1969 and 1970, the Senators were actually pretty respectable, with Ted Williams as manager. Credit must also be given to Gil Hodges for the unspectacular but steady improvement of the team during the slightly-less-than-5 seasons that he managed the Senators.
But the Senators weren't drawing, the neighborhood wasn't what it had been, and Bob Short didn't have the cash to sustain the Senators, so he sold the club to a consortium of Texas investors who moved the Senators lock, stock, and barrel down to a new stadium in Arlington, Texas.
+Joe Postove
Major League Baseball owners have been loath to release their financial records, especially back in those days. Even the most profitable teams would tell reporters they were losing money. Irving Rudd, the publicity man for the Brooklyn Dodgers for much of the 1950's, tells a story about how a couple of representatives of the American Legion visited Walter O'Malley to see if their youth teams could get a little more financial support from the Dodgers. At that point, the Dodgers were the most profitable team in baseball. Rudd said that O'Malley put on such a show for the Legionnaires on how much money it took to run a major league team that by the time he finished his sob story, they were almost to the point that they were going to write O'Malley a check to help the Dodgers.
That said, there is a difference between a "profit-making" organization (an organization that aims to make a profit) and a "profitable" organization (one that actually is making a profit).
Dorothy is amazing.
I wonder if Arlene was wearing a seat belt?
MerleOberon its doubtful that her car even had seatbelts in 1963.
When available, they were definitely optional equipment rather than standard back then.
Very few cars had seatbelts then, and no taxis did.
At this point, hours after the accident, they obviously knew a woman in the other car was killed, and four others including a child hurt. No mention from Daly about that. Well wishes should have been conveyed to them as well, not simply their fellow game player. Disappointing.
Kitty, Lassie was actually a boy.
+fishhead06 Always makes me cringe when someone butts in and "corrects" something that didn't need to becorrected. I call it "incorrecting."
Isn't it incorrecting if the correction is actually incorrect?
Péter ustinov was great in billy budd
His best acting performance, bc for once he was doing double duty as director and was too busy to roll out the mannerisms and tics he normally relied on. He let Ryan take the picture.
One of the things that at times upset me was Bennet Cerf. He was constantly opening his big mouth when he should have kept quiet and giving things away. I never understood
why the producers let him get away with that thru the years. When Gil Hodges was on, he just blurted it out when the other panelist was talking.
I totally agree. It was pure bad manners to interupt Eammon Andrews & John Daly was obviously not pleased. Having watched many of these episodes, Bennet does not like people talking over him when it's his turn, but has repeatedly done this throughout the series.
I enjoy watching these but Bennets behaviour has spoiled my enjoyment of a number of episodes.
You must forgive Mr Cerf. He was probably thinking about his son, who was at Hahvud.
Did women have more hair in the 60's? Some of these women have so much hair (I'm not talking about whatever is on Dorothy's head), but just in general, women seem to have these luxurious, full and heads of thick hair.
One word: Wigs. :) (They just weren't all quite as obvious as Dorothy's wiglets).
Wigs. Especially from here on into the early seventies. For reference, see Dusty Springfield.
Bennett did it again! This time he asks Gil Hodges if he's on the "roaster" of a big league baseball team. First Bennett, Gil is not a baked chicken and second it's "ROSTER", Mr. Publishing magnate!
Galileocan g The oral faux pas of Bennett Cerf (in this video upload) to which you allude may be due to one of two reasons. First, and more simply, it could have been just a case of the old "potato/potahto" or "tomato/tomahto" scenario. Many words commonly have dual pronunciations, including (off the top of my head) "either," "neither," "measure," and "roof." So perhaps "roster" may be heard as either "roaster" or "rosster." These dual pronouncement situations typically involve the choice between a hard or soft vowel pronunciation.
The other explanation for Mr. Cerf's out-of-the-norm pronunciation of the word "roster" may have been a speech impediment. I read somewhere (perhaps in "What's My Line?: The Inside History of TV's Most Famous Panel Show" by the show's producer, Gil Fates) a certain breeding of New York Jew, from which Cerf was derived, are known to have a speech impediment involving the pronunciation of certain word sounds. This explanation could also be the rationale behind television broadcaster Barbara Walters' rather pronounced (pun intended) lisp, an impediment typically involving mispronunciation of sibilant words, such that the letter "S" sounds like "th" (as in "thick") and the letter "Z" also like "th" (but as in "this"); also sometimes mispronunciation of words with a soft "R" as "w," so "Cary Grant" sounds like "Ca-wee Gwant."
Since Mr. Cerf had an obvious impediment, taking him to task for it is rather like faulting a person for having red hair or a cleft in one's chin. But obviously you wouldn't be the first person to exhibit an unkindness to those with speech problems. NBC-TV's "Saturday Night Live" featured a now-infamous series of sketches in which the late comedienne Gilda Radner lampooned Miss Walters' impediment as the character "Baba Wawa."
Galileocan g Merriam-Webster lists two alternate pronunciations in their dictionary, and if I'm not mistaken, one of those does match what Bennett is saying. www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/roster
A different dialect from yours is not the same as a mistake.
Bennett Cerf is the only American person in movies, television or any media I have watched where he typical pronounces words completely different than that of the general population. There seems to be great sensitivity to this on you tube. This goes beyond tomato and to-mah-to. These are pronunciations that may be your dictionary, but I don't believe have been used in common conversation in maybe the last 200 years. He said things like "Pittsa" for Pizza and "Heelo Copter" for Helicopter amongst many more. He often pronounced people's names incorrectly. I'm afraid the cold reality was that Bennett I believe had a speech impediment of some sort - this wasn't a dialect issue
+Galileocan g If you know he had a speech impediment- something you can't just "think" or "know better" your way out of- then why are you giving him shit for it? He's not CHOOSING to do it.
@@DeathBringer769 Maybe it's just Brooklyn.
Bennett nearly always zeroed in on any personality having to do with baseball.
Bennett could be dense or unfeeling or was it just looking for a laugh, uncomfortable or not, because relegating the Irish situation to ' a little disagreement ' sounds incredibly boorish.
"Photo Finish". Not much out there is there?
Doesn’t Gill Hodges have lovely handwriting.