@@robintaberner exactly the opposite - these are the easiest welcomed money (if you know how to extract them). brave female - send her to Mars - it will be at her feet (what d'ya think Elon...). the proud product of American System)))))
My favorite person in this whole story is Dr. Phyllis Gardner, the Stanford professor who NEVER believed this (Theranos) could be possible and thought Holmes was a megalomaniac from the very beginning.
She is such a textbook example of a sociopath. She became pregnant knowing that she will be facing criminal charges all in order to sway the jury members for the upcoming trial. She delivered the baby just a few months ago in July for the perfect timing.
I agree, but taking money from Oracle Co founder is so sweet. This guy and his company only hire under 26 years old , once in a blue moon they hire someone older to coverup their misdeeds. So , taking these rich guys money is a noble act
Someone with those "credentials" might be able to get away with it in forming a software company, but not when playing Russian roulette with people's health. You're welcome.
This shows how gullible and careless our two former Secretaries of State were in becoming her "backers". Imagine the decisions they made on America's behalf.
Well, very high blink rate is an indicator that a person is under a lot of stress or very nervous. It's an involuntary response I hear. It doesn't prove anything though, whether you're lying or not. So a very low blink rate? I don't know. I'd love to see some body language experts analyze some of her interviews.
Dislike! As far as I remember, Jeff Bezos did not blink for so long in various interviews in the early 2000s. In that case maybe it's just hormones when you can move a mountain of money
"good investigative journalism" at Wall Street Joiurnal? You must be joking. WSJ is a Propaganda Tool for the left just like the NYT and other MSM. Wake up.
She had a great racket going. Take advantage in a country that has not only the most stupid people in the world, but some with large disposable incomes. Milk them like a cash cow. You can tell a stupid person by their lack of wisdom, foresight, and discernment. Unfortunately, that is the American condition.
Can a court order you to use your real voice? I mean.. .think of if a voice actor got busted and started speaking in that voice. Could they order you? Man. I'm gonna look it up.
@@eternallife5070 fair point. But can a judge order you to speak in your real voice? I'm just curious lol. Would be funny if she switched from a baritone to an alto mid sentence haha
Silicon Valley has a problem thinking the hard sciences are like a social networking app. People who get the Nobel prize in chemistry are all super old and have studied their whole life. The fact that these rich people got conned into thinking a 19 year old will change the game like she claimed is laughable.
But that’s all that keeps coming up out of Silicon Valley. Lyft and Uber aren’t really that brilliant, and neither has made 10 cents since they started. But throw enough tech at anything and you can create a unicorn business.
That is so true. What did the 19-year old beat the Nobel prize winners with? Calculus 101. If anyone in SV had an idea about formal education, this would have never happened.
thats because (as we've seen from the pandemic) people trivialize true knowledge and education. They think a 30 second google search = 9 years of studying one specific field.
You can have some genetic freak (/ + well cultured in the family) like Stephen Wolfram who was doing particle physics when he’s 14. But Elizabeth Holmes was still only a college sophomore when she’s 19, she’s obviously no genius.
The point that so many rich people trusted a stanford dropout with no medical training with something so sensitive to our health is saddening. So many trusted medical professionals tried to call this out but none of them listening. 🤦🏾♀️
It sounds weird but I kinda want her to get away with it for this reason. I wouldn't hand over significant amounts of money for something without doing due diligence. Too many deals are being done between salespeople with the knowledgeable people being shut out of the conversation. This should be a teaching moment for the industry, rather than just punishing a fantasist for embarrassing them.
What I find more disturbing than the voice is the unblinking, wide-eyed stare when she talks or addresses a person. That’s a highly manipulative psychological thing to do. It feigns extreme interest and is a way of establishing dominance.
Let’s all be grateful that they got caught before this pandemic mess even began Can you imagine if this company still exists during a worldwide health crisis?
@@BatmanLampin "Tf do we care for?" I know you hate the rich but you miss the point and the damage she created. They are extracting blood and giving false information to patients. Just think for one second...They can mark anyone positive and negative for covid or any other diseases. If this issue came out during the pandemic, she will get away with it. Because most people will need her tech. We, as regular people, are affected.
Guess you went to her labs and found the Theranos technology incredible? Vice President Joe Biden in 2015, called it the “laboratory of the future”. Now he is responsible for the disaster in Afghanistan in 2021.
@@BatmanLampin you are the type of person that says a lot to act smart, but really aren’t as smart as you try to portray because that makes zero sense....and not on topic
I recall attending conferences with these presentations. It got investors excited and more critically it diverted significant funding from genuine medical research. It set everyone back at least a decade.
She is so comfortable with her lies, she doesn’t even know what truth is. 100% Sociopath. (edit) I’m so happy she is going to testify on her on behalf. The need to prove you’re the “smartest person in the room” is the Achilles heel of every sociopath.
You dont care about venture capitalists because communists made you retraded . Just just enjoy the fruits of venture capitalists without ascribing the success to them. Because communists made you retraded.
Don’t be in such a hurry to condemn venture capitalist without money to start new companies legitimate new companies that is our health and welfare family life and daily life would not be improved. Calm down
Interestingly enough there will soon be a pretty simple blood test that will determine some cancers. She had the right idea but she obviously could not actually create it.
How to build a large tech company: 1. Employ a Stanford professor. 2. Use Professor's status to bring in politicians backing. 3. Use the politicians reputation to bring in billionaires 4. Profit
That's actually how many of these investments _actually_ work. The product doesn't do the thing it's advertised, but instead, extracts the money from the investors.
*She was HORRIBLE to her underlings and just uses and throws people away when she is done with them. This is why I want to see her answer for her crimes more than just some financial fraud. That she "just happened" to find/date/marry a guy with unlimited wealth and have a baby before trial for sympathy...? Even more psychopathic, criminal behavior, taking advantage of others in a big way if it helps her the slightest. I hope she gets the maximum.*
Only one guy was accused for the collapse in 2008 got sentenced 5 years. If you have money or you have the power to bring down people who have money, you cen get through anything.
@@hzoonka4203 what comes next? lol you said, "well said," with a comma there. i'm not being a grammar nazi im legit wondering and hoping there was something cool you were gonna say after that comma lol
Yep, and instead of a monster shouting "Stars!" ... you hafta dodge her creepy eyes and fake voice while she chases you around growling empowerment platitudes.
What's even more terrifying is who the mini-bosses would be. She had so many people fooled (?). Even James Mattis (General turned SecDf), Sam Nunn (Senator), William Perry (SecDef) were on the board of directors hawking the products to the military. I half think the lot of them should be put against a wall and shot for what they did.
@@JohnathanNoechelShunn She is even faking her deep voice, lol. Her natural voice is much higher. She probably thinks having a deeper voice made her seem more confident and believable.
@@uderzo1984 has something to do with authority more than confidence. Those old dudes investing in her company wouldn't have if she was always girly and wore floral dresses. She invented an image everyone wanted from an innovator-she's a fxxking genius
I sure hope the Courts make an example out of her, the damage she has done to Startup ecosystem, and endangering the lives of so many people she should be heavily punished. A life imprisonment would be most appropriate.
Hey, adults, maybe consider that for a lot of people, college is an extremely expensive scam that only exists because of college administrators. Maybe, if high school grads could jump right into an internship and work, then maybe colleges would be left to engineers, doctors and other specialists who actually need a higher education and not be crowded by future debtors begrudgingly studying art history and marketing.
@@asherujudo7383 Scam? Yup. Consider the astronomic cost of textbooks. Edition cycle is two years which means textbooks have limited lifespan and cannot be re-sold to save money for incoming students. Publishers, authors, and schools get rich while soaking the student or more likely the government who are giving grants.
I keep hearing how she is "broke", "penniless", etc. I would like to have the opportunity to see if she has equity in a house, if she owns expensive jewelry/watches she bought during her boom days, if she has a safe deposit box with valuable contents, etc. The fact that her stock is now worthless does not make her broke. I bet she still walks away with a few million and very little jail time. Granted it is nothing like the billions she was once worth, but if she comes out of the whole thing with $1. more than she had when she went into it, she is not broke. Broke is when you are trying to figure out how to buy food, or whether you should steal food. Broke is when you are about to be evicted. Not all assets have to be cash, either. Give me a Patek Phillipe watch in mint condtion, and I am good for money for at least a year when I sell it, and that is not even a diamond or limited production model.
I believe her fiance is wealthy and supporting her now. I wouldn't put it past her that she has some of the investor money stashed away somewhere as well. My guess is crypto.
I agree. I hate it when people use broke as a relative term compared to someone’s previous wealth. As you say broke is lacking funds at a basic level !
She accepted the accolades and reaped the rewards and now wants to use the "I'm a victim of a controlling man" defense? Throw the book at her! The well-timed childbirth should not factor into a judge's or jury's decision to put her in jail for a long time. Theranos is a cautionary tale for all investors looking for the next big thing. There were red flags all over the place which many chose to ignore. These people need to be held accountable.
So far, the only cautionary lesson for other billionaire swindlers is that their case won't even come to trial for at least three years after their indictment.
Yeah Nikola is the new Theranos. But just like Enron and Theranos there will be another. In fact there are many just look at otc stocks and your bound to find a handful.
I think uou are overly ambitious in your assessment of the sentence she may get. She has a lot of I'll gotten money to hire the best defense attorney dream team.
That maybe so in general but in this case she conned political insiders of another magnitude when compared to traditional VC’s. They won’t get their money back so they’ll try and push for max time imo
Elizabeth Holmes has terrifyingly eyes that lock on you and don't let go. You can't get away from them. She looks like both a psychopath and a robot. I don't get how she was able to dupe so many people because my first instinct is to run.
Didn’t they discover a lot of CEOs are sociopaths? I remember CEO an surgeon topping the list. This is probably normal and probably sought after in that circle.
All they needed to do was ask an actual blood technician from a reputable lab to discover what a scam this was. It’s really kind of funny that all these high rollers and experienced investors didn’t do the simplest due diligence.
@@internetperson9121 sure, anything's possible. But that would definitely show how stupid they are. Weirdly, even people at my father's lab(he works specifically with blood testing analysis) wondered if it could be true. So dumb people are everywhere.
Facing jail, it is the height of irresponsibility to get pregnant. Unless...it was done to gain sympathy from jurors, which is a despicable reason. The court tried to counter this strategy by delaying the trial until after the child is born. The question is whether she will demand to have the baby present in court and if she will demand permission to nurse the child. Such demands will prove that the baby was conceived to be used as a prop for the trial.
Isn't it suspect that someone in the field of medicine is unable to figure out how to use proper contraception? It is nearly impossible to get pregnant in modern times. I'm curious what will come out of this "Iron Woman" - an anvil?
She is the perfect example of the genetic crossing of a corrupt Enron EVP and a Washington Lobbyist. The amount of thought she put into this Jobs type persona, from her deepening her voice, to mimicing of classic male sitting poses etc is just diabolical.
@@beepbeep9043 Watch how she sits, she is taking on male mannerisms to make men more comfortable around her. The wide angled out knees with her arms resting on them. Or the wide crossed leg. I mean that woman has so perfectly constructed her character. These are all things you read in body language and influence books.
I notice the fake deep voice and adoption of male conversational style in several NPR female announcers, and women in general too. I think feminism gets women to act like men in so many ways like being more competitive and ambitious that they copy men's voice and mannerisms too.
What do Elizabeth Holmes, Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein and 80% of Joe Biden's Cabinet have in common? Answer left as an exercise for the reader... Next time you see a big controversy in the news cycle, just check the "Early Life" section on Wikipedia. Every. Single. Time. Some of them also like to conceal the truth about their background, e.g. Bill Gates.
I am so disappointed cameras aren't going into the court room. They did with Jodi Arias, why not Liz?? Would have been great entertainment, I could just about cancel netflix!
@@MarjaMariachi yes, since faking bills, identity cards, or money, is illegal, i wonder why pretending that you are someone else on purpose isn't a crime, except maybe cases when you are goofing with your friends, or you are acting on stage in a theater.
What’s strange to me is even when she was at the height of her success I watched her presentations and saw none of the brilliance and charisma I kept reading about. Her affect was flat and uninspiring - even when I believed the tech was revolutionary I could not find any faith in her person. People much smarter than me were duped which astounds me to this day.
As someone who was able to convince professors to invest in her bogus company as a sophomore, she could have made a fortune if she had pursued a legit business career.
Into that convincing sex was involved I think. She manipulated rich man to give her money for her company. To convince them ,involved not just words and thoughts, plans etc, but also sex. But the old man will never say a word about it. Her ambition was so much higher that her inteligence.
@@nevessl998 that’s the reason why tons of women have companies which are worth billions of dollar. Oh wait. They don’t. So going on your knees doesn’t work?
@@loisen *tons of women have companies which are worth billions of dollar*, I think thats quite an exaggerated statement you made there. Of course there are very successful women, but they dont come in tons. What comes in tons is low inteligent, some pretty, women that use their bodies to manipulate. After all, thats their most powerful weapon. Im not trying to be sexist here but the reality is just that. And of course Holmes used that weapon against old men to get the fundings for her company.
Red flag #1 is when an up & coming company's leader crafts their image/personality mirroring another successful entrepreneur or some messianic archetype. Wework's Adam Neumann fits this model as well as many others.
@@severedyakhead9702 i believe there aren’t enough court systems, lawyers or judges to handle every American law suit. No offense, but y’all will sue anything that moves.
I think shes get a lot of time heres why she embarrassed a lot powerful people Of course those powerful may have something to hide so its possible they go lightly However i think she needs to be made an example of ...
@@alexacosta2774 that's the point. The "right" people got screwed so it's not that big of a deal in that area. Most of the people were right leaning people. IIRC no tech/medical venture capital firm invested in Theranos.
That’s why you do proper due diligence before you agree to go on a board. Just because you were Secretary of State doesn’t mean you understand a company’s inner workings.
@@tomwright9904 kind of but you do have a responsibility to make sure there is good governance over management. This was an epic failure on multiple counts
At the beginning of this video, the first question posed to Holmes and she looks him dead in his eye sockets and lies. There is NO SHAME in her game whatsoever!
@@eerohughes I wonder if it's a manipulative behaviour actually. Like she's bobbing her head to mirror the other person and indicate she's listening, but in reality she isn't and the audience finds it annoying.
Average PhDs in biomedical science/engineer finish in 5.5 years now, plus 4 years of undergrad. It just surprises how people could believe in a college sophomore dropout! Did they check if she even completed bio 101 or genchem?!
@@officialspock Not really. The Walgreens rollout was limited to select locations (and not for very long), and there’s no evidence that anyone died as a result of decisions made based on the flawed results.
Her deep voice is her business voice everybody knows that, at and first I thought she was one of those transgenders but I heard her phone call and she's no baritone. She won't see 5 minutes in prison because if they do that nobody will invest in these people who got scammed. Makes the Elite look stupid I predict suicide with 2 to the back of the head
@@mrhalvi She won't see prison simply because her family is rich and has connections - which I'm betting formed the bulk of her initial investors. The rich always live outside of the law as they pay people off.
Ah, so the apple didnt fall far from the tree. I detest this woman. People who get blood tests need them. The whole trying to look like steve jobs is laughable. If she was black shed already be in jail.. If she does go that deep voice will get her a girlfriend really fast.
She was probably well off to begin with. Contrary to popular belief, sociopaths aren’t particularly smarter than other people. If you have money to start with, your grandiose schemes arent that farfetched. In this case it was just a question of when she’d get caught. But she got caught precisely because she isn’t smart
@@LaVerdad65 I think professionals determined sociopaths are smarter because sociopaths are always making egotistic claims they believe about themselves -- like that they can understand people completely and they can outwit any investigator, etc.
Please be safe, be tomorrow. Pandemics and war$ never produce afterlives, even if scammers and easily scammed types of people say the victims of 9/11 and medical malpractice went to a happyland in the sky.
Holmes was all about the image (black jobs turtleneck and deep voice), clever sound bytes, and a "fake it till you make it" mentality. Holmes dropped out of college almost immediately, so she didn't have the necessary scientific training. Theranos was doomed before it even began.
I gave her credit for taking these multi-Billionaires and multi-millionaires moeny. . JUST remember these multi-millionaires and Billionaires will not even buy you and me a coffee. Especially taking money from Lawrence Ellison (Oracle CO-Founder) is so sweet, he only goes for young people. I applied to get a job at Oracle age 40s despite a degree in computer science and experience, they hired a young lady in her early twenties with no experience. I give Elizabeth Holmes credit for taking his money and am proud of her. remember, she did not take money from poor people.
Which goes against all we currently know about sociopaths: They can spot other predators from a mile away, and are not easily manipulated. These people clearly inherited that wealth. The real sociopaths were their rich grandfathers ,who are now rolling in their graves witnessing their offspring's gullibility.
@@rickmorty7284 they are not incompetent, the problem is that everyone has this simplistic idea that scientific progress is exponencial and infinite (which is not). Probably they though that she only needed enough money and time to make her idea work.
To the "infinity and beyond", this fraudster reminds me of the "Toy Story". I have to give her credit for being able to suck in "powerful politicians whom I thought are intelligent enough to question using their insight but..." backing her portfolio up drawing in a lot of well-known investors' money.
Feel sick for her though and not Mark. Because I believe she is really sick and now she will be punished a scapegoat for all the men doing the same thing everywhere but with a ferocity and insanity and slow drip of torture that no man ensures.
I think as well this is what happens when white people are overlooked during these criminal acts cause this idea had to get some steam and some chance to lift off , and all had to be in. This is real American problem and she should be put away for life as a lesson to many. This also shows how the medical system isn’t good in America in regards to checks and balances. Many things don’t work but can we solely rely on the fda ? Like where was the fda or the government in checking this scheme of a medical equipment things she said she created Let’s see if a young white women can really go to jail for a long time !
Remember as you keep track of the trial, to narcissists, there is no such thing as negative attention. ALL attention is relished and cleverly used by the narcissist. "Negative" attention is merely attention that allows them to blame everyone else for their crimes and mistakes. Remember, a narcissist is ALWAYS the victim. ALWAYS.
Seeing Senator Frist reminds me that Congress should be limited in how they can invest while they are serving office. She took a lot of folks for a ride, so this will be interesting.
females dont get sentenced unless there is nothing a judge can do to avoid it. rapists, murderers, all known to avoid jail if female. A black man is 2100% more likely to receive a jail sentence in the USA compared to a white woman for the same crime.
@@ebk_72 in NZ a mother raped her baby boy while recording it. The man who bought the tape was sentenced to jail, the actual rapist was given home detention. (story had a happyish ending, no one would house the rapist so the judge was forced to send her to jail to finish her minimal term)
Perhaps the deep voice is her "tell" - something she does automatically when she's lying. Many chronic liars have tells. Pathological liars do as well. It's something law enforcement look for, as do Homeland Security checkers at airports.
@@bipolarcollie she does that deliberately because she believes deeper voice in industries like that is more beneficial cause you're viewed as more serious & professional
@@bipolarcollie She used the "voice" whenever dealing with the public or the investors because it made her appear to be a "strong" leader, blah, blah, blah.
Billionaires dont go to jail. Instead of rotting in jail for years because she IS guilty, she instead is walking to court freely when she feels like it.
Yes. And her physical image did an undeniable 350. Her utter transformation of the no-nonsense, aggressive, driven, change-the-world businesswoman scientist, to the straight opposite soft, feminine, appearance-focused mother-to-be is complete night and day. The change of hairstyle, softer makeup, shoes and clothing (including the conscious choice to wear colors at all), all equal, “But look at me. I’m not a criminal. I’m innocent.”
@@CatsArePeopleToo If you have a jury trial your lawyer will instruct you to change your appearance. My company was involved in a commercial lawsuit in the US and I was instructed to shave my stubble or else the jury will judge me as hiding something and it may affect the outcome. Sadly for juries, your appearance is relevant.
lol forbes image is kinda hurt by constantly announcing the next 'youngest female self-made billionair'. I feel like I've heard that 4 times in the past decade
@@vaderthekittenchannel1979 she had a baby almost 2 yrs ago or sooner? Wonder if lil baby Liz jr. was born with an extra deep baby man voice so that in the future, every kid she meets in K grade will always believe her, no questions and gladly hand over all their snacks and toys leaving them with nothing. OK, my analogy wasn't best and maybe too dark of a joke about a kindergartner scamming all the other kids. lol, sahry lol...lol ha ha
@@tomwright9904 agreed about the people that were tested. However not all people that invested were the business elite. I'm sure some were individuals that wanted a decent nest-egg for a comfortable future.
@@Cbd_7ohm I know everyone has this common sense after the scam came out in media and as my father says "when the war is over everybody is a general"😂😂😂😂
@@sanjeevkushwaha4043 You act as if everyone was scammed. Anyone who saw the blueprint for the device knows it was never going to be made. It isn't physically possible with our technology.
@@Cbd_7ohm my point is before the scam came in media everyone was like - she is the next Steve Jobs, she is an inspiration for female entrepreneur, she proves that University is not important for medical startup etc But after the scam came in media everyone is like - I already knew this idea is flawed, her father was the VP of Enron, she used her gender to gain publicity as the youngest female billionaire etc People are wierd 😂😂😂😂😂
The ultimate irony is that they propped up this woman without knowing ANYTHING about her product's efficacy just because they wanted to be able to tell a narrative about a young woman becoming some kind of global innovator. That's it, that's all it was about. And she took advantage of that every single step of the way. She wasn't vetted, her product wasn't tested, nothing.
Honestly I’m amazed she can get herself a very rich man in the middle of all these chaos and even just gave birth to a baby. She’s very busy living her best life for sure 😅
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She's not going to get away with it because she made a huge mistake, defrauding rich people instead of the public.
Bravo.
Exactly, don’t lose rich peoples money
Yeah man…it’s been proven time and time again, that you can always get away with defrauding the taxpayers.
@@robintaberner exactly the opposite - these are the easiest welcomed money (if you know how to extract them). brave female - send her to Mars - it will be at her feet (what d'ya think Elon...). the proud product of American System)))))
@@valeinikofff elon doesn't defraud tax payers? =]
My favorite person in this whole story is Dr. Phyllis Gardner, the Stanford professor who NEVER believed this (Theranos) could be possible and thought Holmes was a megalomaniac from the very beginning.
I would love to see Dr Gardner interview ms fraud.
Yes! And Dr Gardner said it was because she wasn't a bedazzled old white male = )
@@pheebsbee1280 I love how the Dr has ALWAYS kept it real when interviewed about holmes.
Gardner is the genius
Exactly!!!
First they think you're crazy.
Then they fight you.
Then they know you're crazy.
Then you go to jail.
and that’s why I say hey man nice shot
There is a fine line between genius and stupidity. All geniuses are mad but not all mads are genius.
No, then they find out that you’re a greedy scheming power-tripping fake who committed 10 counts of wire fraud in the multi-million dollar range
Always love riffing on that line from her.
😂😂😂😂
She is such a textbook example of a sociopath. She became pregnant knowing that she will be facing criminal charges all in order to sway the jury members for the upcoming trial. She delivered the baby just a few months ago in July for the perfect timing.
That wouldn't work on me because: Feminism.
@KaTiX yes! There definitely is something similar between Amber and Elizabeth....a coldness of some sort.
I agree, but taking money from Oracle Co founder is so sweet. This guy and his company only hire under 26 years old , once in a blue moon they hire someone older to coverup their misdeeds. So , taking these rich guys money is a noble act
She faked the pregnancy
@@samb4697 you are really not making sense
But she dropped out of college, wore a black turtleneck and acted quirky. She’s obviously a genius.
Yeah, obviously!
Bat Man, I think that you captured so much in so few words.
Someone with those "credentials" might be able to get away with it in forming a software company, but not when playing Russian roulette with people's health. You're welcome.
Look into her family tree
I think I know another such 'genius'.
I think the oddest thing about her is her faking a deeper voice, and when everyone knows she continues.
What would be worse, admitting you were faking something like that or just keeping on doing it?
She has narcissistic traits, that's why she continues faking it.
@@Masada1911 You can play it off and be like "I burned my throat" or "Sorry, in not feeling well"
You gotts commit ig 🤷🏾♀️
@@jaridkeen123 Not if you if you had been doing it for years and that’s the only way anybody I ever heard you speak.
This shows how gullible and careless our two former Secretaries of State were in becoming her "backers". Imagine the decisions they made on America's behalf.
shows how gullible the media and its audience are too.
@Blackpilled Chad Shows how gullible & careless biden is. I hope he doesnt screw up Afghanistan withdrawal.
They are in good company I assure you.
Lots of people can get taken in by liars. 73 million in the US were at the last count.
@@AlphaCentauri24 The withdrawal is bound to be a screw up in a large part thanks to Biden's decision to back the war for a decade
Crazy that her trial is just starting. Doesn’t this seem like a decade ago?
There is more people in prison in the USA than in anywhere else in the world. The courts are overwhelmed.
She wasn't indicted until June, 2018.
trial got delayed because of the pandemic
Privileged.
@@luckylove72 cases take year(s) to go to trial all the time lol
Never trust anyone who doesn't blink for that long
That's why I don't trust fish. Slippery little suspects, I tell you
Psychopaths don’t blink.
Well, very high blink rate is an indicator that a person is under a lot of stress or very nervous. It's an involuntary response I hear. It doesn't prove anything though, whether you're lying or not. So a very low blink rate? I don't know. I'd love to see some body language experts analyze some of her interviews.
My eyes actually hurt watching her.
Dislike! As far as I remember, Jeff Bezos did not blink for so long in various interviews in the early 2000s. In that case maybe it's just hormones when you can move a mountain of money
A good example of why we need to keep good investigative journalism alive. Democracy only works when there is published truth.
Agree, that’s why it’s important to pay for journalism
"good investigative journalism" at Wall Street Joiurnal? You must be joking. WSJ is a Propaganda Tool for the left just like the NYT and other MSM. Wake up.
@@acebdefg5582 You do know it's owned by Rupert Murdoch right? You know, the Fox News owner...
1st amendment
@@acebdefg5582 oh look, another brainwashed cultist
Her: "I have a black turtle-neck sweater, just like Steve Jobs. Trust me."
Millionaires: "Sounds legit. Take my money."
Note to self: 'Get black turtleneck sweater, black slacks, and black shoes'
Bill Gates- I wear pink sweaters , trust me .
She had a great racket going. Take advantage in a country that has not only the most stupid people in the world, but some with large disposable incomes. Milk them like a cash cow. You can tell a stupid person by their lack of wisdom, foresight, and discernment. Unfortunately, that is the American condition.
lol
Ha
I can't wait to see if she uses the deep voice in court.
"Yes your Honor, I am your father"
🤣🤣🤣
Creasing 😂😂
Can a court order you to use your real voice? I mean.. .think of if a voice actor got busted and started speaking in that voice. Could they order you? Man. I'm gonna look it up.
@@thomasbrown3857 I don't think so because everyone have rights to speak however they want...
@@eternallife5070 fair point. But can a judge order you to speak in your real voice? I'm just curious lol. Would be funny if she switched from a baritone to an alto mid sentence haha
Silicon Valley has a problem thinking the hard sciences are like a social networking app. People who get the Nobel prize in chemistry are all super old and have studied their whole life. The fact that these rich people got conned into thinking a 19 year old will change the game like she claimed is laughable.
this is painfully true
But that’s all that keeps coming up out of Silicon Valley. Lyft and Uber aren’t really that brilliant, and neither has made 10 cents since they started. But throw enough tech at anything and you can create a unicorn business.
That is so true. What did the 19-year old beat the Nobel prize winners with? Calculus 101. If anyone in SV had an idea about formal education, this would have never happened.
thats because (as we've seen from the pandemic) people trivialize true knowledge and education. They think a 30 second google search = 9 years of studying one specific field.
You can have some genetic freak (/ + well cultured in the family) like Stephen Wolfram who was doing particle physics when he’s 14. But Elizabeth Holmes was still only a college sophomore when she’s 19, she’s obviously no genius.
The point that so many rich people trusted a stanford dropout with no medical training with something so sensitive to our health is saddening. So many trusted medical professionals tried to call this out but none of them listening. 🤦🏾♀️
It's called the blonde hair and black turtleneck effect.
@Cian MacGana Pleasr tell me, because I haven't a clue. And by the way, what does that have to do with Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos?
@Cian MacGana Lloyd's of London. It's the biggest high stakes betting game on the planet.
It sounds weird but I kinda want her to get away with it for this reason. I wouldn't hand over significant amounts of money for something without doing due diligence. Too many deals are being done between salespeople with the knowledgeable people being shut out of the conversation. This should be a teaching moment for the industry, rather than just punishing a fantasist for embarrassing them.
Holmes comes from a very rich family herself. Her family probably had connections already.
Maybe we'll hear her real voice when she's makes her apology at her sentencing.
It will a quavering, timid, little girl's voice: "I'm so weak and helpless... please pity me."
She will not apologize for anything. She’s already publicly blaming her old boyfriend/business partner. She is rotten to the core.
She would be dumb not to blame it on dissasoiciative identity disorder. (Formerly known as multiple identity disorder. )
Her real voice sounds like Mike Tyson
@@starguy2718 jj
What I find more disturbing than the voice is the unblinking, wide-eyed stare when she talks or addresses a person. That’s a highly manipulative psychological thing to do. It feigns extreme interest and is a way of establishing dominance.
It works on the low eye queue.
Let’s all be grateful that they got caught before this pandemic mess even began
Can you imagine if this company still exists during a worldwide health crisis?
Tf do we care for? They weren't stealing from regular people.
@@BatmanLampin "Tf do we care for?" I know you hate the rich but you miss the point and the damage she created.
They are extracting blood and giving false information to patients. Just think for one second...They can mark anyone positive and negative for covid or any other diseases. If this issue came out during the pandemic, she will get away with it. Because most people will need her tech.
We, as regular people, are affected.
Guess you went to her labs and found the Theranos technology incredible? Vice President Joe Biden in 2015, called it the “laboratory of the future”. Now he is responsible for the disaster in Afghanistan in 2021.
@@BatmanLampin you are the type of person that says a lot to act smart, but really aren’t as smart as you try to portray because that makes zero sense....and not on topic
@@noseyandneutral He put pandemic in quotation marks. 🤣
I recall attending conferences with these presentations. It got investors excited and more critically it diverted significant funding from genuine medical research. It set everyone back at least a decade.
Elizabeth: I wanted to change the world but I ended up changing my voice
😂
BAM....And BWAHAHAHAHA....
Fantastic!! HAHAHA.
A good start! I must try it. I bet I can get subsonic.
and her wardrobe - stylings by real-life innovator Steve Jobs
She is so comfortable with her lies, she doesn’t even know what truth is. 100% Sociopath.
(edit) I’m so happy she is going to testify on her on behalf. The need to prove you’re the “smartest person in the room” is the Achilles heel of every sociopath.
And narcissist to the bone
I really don't care that she fleeced wealthy Venture Capitalists. However, when what you do affects patient's health, you deserve serious jailtime
She is a female Bernie Madoff and she deserves 150 years in jail, just like Madoff
You dont care about venture capitalists because communists made you retraded . Just just enjoy the fruits of venture capitalists without ascribing the success to them. Because communists made you retraded.
Those capitalists produce jobs and technology
Don’t be in such a hurry to condemn venture capitalist without money to start new companies legitimate new companies that is our health and welfare family life and daily life would not be improved. Calm down
I agree. But I didn't really understand if any patients paid her for tests with falsified results.
Theranos technology is more fake than Elizabeth Holmes’ voice.
Human technology is such a sad thing. I look at Apple, and Elisabeth Holmes, facepalm.
@Kek Gorilla idk if ur trolling or not.
@@b34k8 he is theranops
@Kek Gorilla Idk you seem to be quite determined.
Interestingly enough there will soon be a pretty simple blood test that will determine some cancers. She had the right idea but she obviously could not actually create it.
"Bad Blood" is such a good read if you want the full story on this. it almost reads as a spy novel but it's all true.
as a medical lab scientist myself....this story is just fascinating. I read the book in 1 day. lol
@@erinhwang6389 @awful waffle thank you for the recommendation ;)
I absolutely agree. I've read it twice.
Bad Blood the final chapter podcast (about the trial) is really good.
This book made me like reading. There are actually good books out there outside of english class books
How to build a large tech company:
1. Employ a Stanford professor.
2. Use Professor's status to bring in politicians backing.
3. Use the politicians reputation to bring in billionaires
4. Profit
I mean that often works...
I mean that often works...
What Stanford professor?
Once you decide to break the law many things are possible.
Happens all the time too, the real question is -> why is she really being prosecuted 🧐
the fact that these seasoned investors can be fooled by appearance is just mind-blowing
She’s the fall guy. They knew what was going on.
Her family ties is what really got her the in.
That's actually how many of these investments _actually_ work. The product doesn't do the thing it's advertised, but instead, extracts the money from the investors.
@@lalat5899 So they knew all along that their $100 million investment was going down the toilet. Wow. Why didn't they invest even more?
Being a woman certainly helped. A male in this day and age would have to resort to Shark Tank.
You watch, she’ll get a slap on the wrist
Especially since he’s just had a baby. Woul want to lock up a mother now would we?
@@henryc1000 well played by Elizabeth
The fact that she’s just going to trial already says a lot
@@henryc1000 why would she even do that right before going to jail?
@@henryc1000 her baby is going to grow up in prison
*She was HORRIBLE to her underlings and just uses and throws people away when she is done with them. This is why I want to see her answer for her crimes more than just some financial fraud. That she "just happened" to find/date/marry a guy with unlimited wealth and have a baby before trial for sympathy...? Even more psychopathic, criminal behavior, taking advantage of others in a big way if it helps her the slightest. I hope she gets the maximum.*
She is a typical narcissist! That is what they do!
Only one guy was accused for the collapse in 2008 got sentenced 5 years. If you have money or you have the power to bring down people who have money, you cen get through anything.
She won't but we can always hope.
@@phyllisfoster6589 She will… You don’t steal from the richest and most powerful people in the US and just get away from it… She’s in DEEP trouble
This is true. She belittled her coworkers often.
She has that Zuckerberg robot stare and diction. They could almost be siblings.
they were probably manufactured from the same *alien DNA lab rat goop* & planted in earth by the Martian lizards
@@dasalekhya And I suppose Bill Gates the evil villain in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory....?
well said,
@@joeyyoung1178 adderall is amphetamine
@@hzoonka4203 what comes next? lol you said, "well said," with a comma there. i'm not being a grammar nazi im legit wondering and hoping there was something cool you were gonna say after that comma lol
She would make a terrifying final boss in a Resident Evil game.
she'd morph into her lies.
With the fake deep voice
Why does she look like she has commit massacre and still smiling about it. That eyes...
Yep, and instead of a monster shouting "Stars!" ... you hafta dodge her creepy eyes and fake voice while she chases you around growling empowerment platitudes.
What's even more terrifying is who the mini-bosses would be. She had so many people fooled (?). Even James Mattis (General turned SecDf), Sam Nunn (Senator), William Perry (SecDef) were on the board of directors hawking the products to the military.
I half think the lot of them should be put against a wall and shot for what they did.
At the end of the day, she was no girl wonder.All she was, was a confidence trickster living her childhood fantasy.
Fake it till you make it
@@JohnathanNoechelShunn She is even faking her deep voice, lol. Her natural voice is much higher. She probably thinks having a deeper voice made her seem more confident and believable.
@@uderzo1984 has something to do with authority more than confidence. Those old dudes investing in her company wouldn't have if she was always girly and wore floral dresses. She invented an image everyone wanted from an innovator-she's a fxxking genius
Funny nobody mentions the media putting her on a platter without fact checking the technology.
I sure hope the Courts make an example out of her, the damage she has done to Startup ecosystem, and endangering the lives of so many people she should be heavily punished. A life imprisonment would be most appropriate.
Hey, kids watching this: dropping out of school is not a prerequisite for success.
Hey kids. Be sure to investigate potential business partners who dropped out of school.
Also, if you are going to drop out of school for a business you made, wait till it’s successful before dropping out!
Hey, adults, maybe consider that for a lot of people, college is an extremely expensive scam that only exists because of college administrators. Maybe, if high school grads could jump right into an internship and work, then maybe colleges would be left to engineers, doctors and other specialists who actually need a higher education and not be crowded by future debtors begrudgingly studying art history and marketing.
@@asherujudo7383 Scam? Yup. Consider the astronomic cost of textbooks. Edition cycle is two years which means textbooks have limited lifespan and cannot be re-sold to save money for incoming students. Publishers, authors, and schools get rich while soaking the student or more likely the government who are giving grants.
@@asherujudo7383 TRUE. Also on the parents for letting their children study these useless degrees that leads to them being broke baristas
I keep hearing how she is "broke", "penniless", etc. I would like to have the opportunity to see if she has equity in a house, if she owns expensive jewelry/watches she bought during her boom days, if she has a safe deposit box with valuable contents, etc. The fact that her stock is now worthless does not make her broke. I bet she still walks away with a few million and very little jail time. Granted it is nothing like the billions she was once worth, but if she comes out of the whole thing with $1. more than she had when she went into it, she is not broke. Broke is when you are trying to figure out how to buy food, or whether you should steal food. Broke is when you are about to be evicted. Not all assets have to be cash, either. Give me a Patek Phillipe watch in mint condtion, and I am good for money for at least a year when I sell it, and that is not even a diamond or limited production model.
Such is life…
I believe her fiance is wealthy and supporting her now. I wouldn't put it past her that she has some of the investor money stashed away somewhere as well. My guess is crypto.
I agree. I hate it when people use broke as a relative term compared to someone’s previous wealth. As you say broke is lacking funds at a basic level !
Word.
Penniless! Sadly All she got are stacks and stacks $100 bills. Poor girl indeed
She accepted the accolades and reaped the rewards and now wants to use the "I'm a victim of a controlling man" defense? Throw the book at her! The well-timed childbirth should not factor into a judge's or jury's decision to put her in jail for a long time. Theranos is a cautionary tale for all investors looking for the next big thing. There were red flags all over the place which many chose to ignore. These people need to be held accountable.
So far, the only cautionary lesson for other billionaire swindlers is that their case won't even come to trial for at least three years after their indictment.
Yeah Nikola is the new Theranos. But just like Enron and Theranos there will be another.
In fact there are many just look at otc stocks and your bound to find a handful.
This was HER business...but having been found out its "I'm just a girl and it's all his fault"'
Same old story.
Did you spot all these red flags? No? I didn't think so...... Everyone is an expert after the fact.....
She definitely is using that child as a shield 🛡
Do you know who her father is? Christian Holmes, former ENRON VP.
So as you can see, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree 😉
Omg. Really?? Wow
That's her father? I remember that scandal...Enron was a mess.
Wow ! Really ? Now that explains a few things 😂
She wanted to make daddy proud.
Watch out for her kids, they got a good shot on leading the next big one!
She'll get about 5 years prison, 10 years probation and fines. Embezzlers and white collar criminals RARELY get anywhere close to max penalties.
I think uou are overly ambitious in your assessment of the sentence she may get. She has a lot of I'll gotten money to hire the best defense attorney dream team.
Yeah honestly she'll probably get off clean pretty disgusting
If lucky, something like house arrest with a leg bracelet. Which she'll likely he more than fine with.
That maybe so in general but in this case she conned political insiders of another magnitude when compared to traditional VC’s. They won’t get their money back so they’ll try and push for max time imo
Need to put a kilo of coke in her purse. Maybe that might help.
Elizabeth Holmes has terrifyingly eyes that lock on you and don't let go. You can't get away from them. She looks like both a psychopath and a robot. I don't get how she was able to dupe so many people because my first instinct is to run.
I noticed this also. She has strong crazy eyes
youve probably answered your own question.
Didn’t they discover a lot of CEOs are sociopaths? I remember CEO an surgeon topping the list. This is probably normal and probably sought after in that circle.
She's a nothing girl, trying to be an important woman.
Epic fail.
She is scary for my like from horror movie
She shakes her head "yes" or "no" to questions, then continues to lie and say the opposite
The fact that more people couldn’t tell she was a fraud when she started cosplaying as Steve Jobs is concerning.
2:36 Creepy af
I recommend you watch the interview one of her Stanford profs gave. She saw this coming from the beginning.
She barely even looks human.
Cosplay is the millennial way
female privilege...
I say this type of behavior OFTEN during my 30 years in Corporate America 🥴
All they needed to do was ask an actual blood technician from a reputable lab to discover what a scam this was. It’s really kind of funny that all these high rollers and experienced investors didn’t do the simplest due diligence.
They never watched Hustle
I mean yeah but I think the point is that no one had access to the details because it was a "company secret"
They would have just assumed those labs and technicians weren't "thinking big enough"
@@internetperson9121 sure, anything's possible. But that would definitely show how stupid they are. Weirdly, even people at my father's lab(he works specifically with blood testing analysis) wondered if it could be true. So dumb people are everywhere.
@@letoatreides8098 There are people who just want to believe in the "super genius" cult and have serious confirmation bias
Getting a bunch of half dead older statesman into her board drooling over her should have been a warning sign
@@monicasaenz141 THAT alone should have been red flags 😂
Facing jail, it is the height of irresponsibility to get pregnant. Unless...it was done to gain sympathy from jurors, which is a despicable reason. The court tried to counter this strategy by delaying the trial until after the child is born. The question is whether she will demand to have the baby present in court and if she will demand permission to nurse the child. Such demands will prove that the baby was conceived to be used as a prop for the trial.
hahaa lol do people do that? You are telling me people bring babies to court rooms and nurse them there?
Hope the prosecutors call her out on that if she plays the baby card in front of the jury.
Isn't it suspect that someone in the field of medicine is unable to figure out how to use proper contraception? It is nearly impossible to get pregnant in modern times. I'm curious what will come out of this "Iron Woman" - an anvil?
@@larky368 That's a good point. There's no way this was an "accident".
@@larky368 she's not in the medical field. She dropped out
She is the perfect example of the genetic crossing of a corrupt Enron EVP and a Washington Lobbyist. The amount of thought she put into this Jobs type persona, from her deepening her voice, to mimicing of classic male sitting poses etc is just diabolical.
Perfect summary.
huh I didn’t know she sat using the classic male posed
@@beepbeep9043 Watch how she sits, she is taking on male mannerisms to make men more comfortable around her. The wide angled out knees with her arms resting on them. Or the wide crossed leg. I mean that woman has so perfectly constructed her character. These are all things you read in body language and influence books.
I notice the fake deep voice and adoption of male conversational style in several NPR female announcers, and women in general too. I think feminism gets women to act like men in so many ways like being more competitive and ambitious that they copy men's voice and mannerisms too.
So if I’m attracted to her does that mean I’m gay?
Someone: To change the world you have to change yourself.
Elizabeth: I will change my voice.
What do Elizabeth Holmes, Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein and 80% of Joe Biden's Cabinet have in common? Answer left as an exercise for the reader...
Next time you see a big controversy in the news cycle, just check the "Early Life" section on Wikipedia. Every. Single. Time. Some of them also like to conceal the truth about their background, e.g. Bill Gates.
@@sneedemfeedem3792 enjoy your horse paste. i hear it's tasty.
ROLFMAO
I am so disappointed cameras aren't going into the court room. They did with Jodi Arias, why not Liz??
Would have been great entertainment, I could just about cancel netflix!
It's solely the decision of the judge.
i'd gave her 10 years only for simulating that voice.
😂
😭😭 pls
🤣🤣🤣
It's the same voice as the old "two kids in a trenchcoat" trope where they pretend to be a grown-up so they can sneak into an R-rated movie.
@@MarjaMariachi yes, since faking bills, identity cards, or money, is illegal, i wonder why pretending that you are someone else on purpose isn't a crime, except maybe cases when you are goofing with your friends, or you are acting on stage in a theater.
“First they think you are crazy, then they prove you are crazy and then they throw you in prison for 30 years
Holmes is not crazy. She is selfish and dishonest. Not crazy.
It's amazing how she convinced everyone. When you look at her face you know straight away that she is lying and she does not care about people.
What’s strange to me is even when she was at the height of her success I watched her presentations and saw none of the brilliance and charisma I kept reading about. Her affect was flat and uninspiring - even when I believed the tech was revolutionary I could not find any faith in her person. People much smarter than me were duped which astounds me to this day.
As someone who was able to convince professors to invest in her bogus company as a sophomore, she could have made a fortune if she had pursued a legit business career.
Agree
Into that convincing sex was involved I think. She manipulated rich man to give her money for her company. To convince them ,involved not just words and thoughts, plans etc, but also sex. But the old man will never say a word about it. Her ambition was so much higher that her inteligence.
@@nevessl998 that’s the reason why tons of women have companies which are worth billions of dollar. Oh wait. They don’t. So going on your knees doesn’t work?
@@loisen *tons of women have companies which are worth billions of dollar*, I think thats quite an exaggerated statement you made there. Of course there are very successful women, but they dont come in tons. What comes in tons is low inteligent, some pretty, women that use their bodies to manipulate. After all, thats their most powerful weapon. Im not trying to be sexist here but the reality is just that.
And of course Holmes used that weapon against old men to get the fundings for her company.
Red flag #1 is when an up & coming company's leader crafts their image/personality mirroring another successful entrepreneur or some messianic archetype. Wework's Adam Neumann fits this model as well as many others.
@Sam
Oo, interesting. I dont know too much about Newmann personally, just his failed business.
Who did he emulate?
@@childofcascadia a Christ-like figure.
remind anyone of somebody? EVs? hint hint...
Even when WeWork was cool, I just felt overwhelming contempt for that guy.
Trever Milton once said very few people in this world can "out Elon" Elon Musk, I'm one of them. 😂
These scammers truly have no shame
Is it common for these trials to be delayed so long? It feels like she committed fraud half a decade ago
I second this question
The legal system is very slow
I agree it shouldn't take 6 years to try a case.
She got pregnant and delayed the trail through many challenges of evidence
@@severedyakhead9702 i believe there aren’t enough court systems, lawyers or judges to handle every American law suit. No offense, but y’all will sue anything that moves.
Max she gets 3 years - the system is so rigged
Think of all the very powerful and famous people whose money she incinerated - she will serve a much longer sentence.
nah she won't even get prosecuted. Mark my words she's walking out into the arms of her rich finance.
I think shes get a lot of time heres why she embarrassed a lot powerful people
Of course those powerful may have something to hide so its possible they go lightly
However i think she needs to be made an example of ...
idk man she screwed over the conservative elite . I'm just surprised there still is an Elizabeth Holmes.
@@alexacosta2774 that's the point. The "right" people got screwed so it's not that big of a deal in that area. Most of the people were right leaning people. IIRC no tech/medical venture capital firm invested in Theranos.
That’s why you do proper due diligence before you agree to go on a board. Just because you were Secretary of State doesn’t mean you understand a company’s inner workings.
Being in a bored is just agreeing to give advice for money right...
@@tomwright9904 kind of but you do have a responsibility to make sure there is good governance over management. This was an epic failure on multiple counts
At the beginning of this video, the first question posed to Holmes and she looks him dead in his eye sockets and lies. There is NO SHAME in her game whatsoever!
Sociopaths and compulsive liars knows what are the tells to when a person is lying and knows how to avoid those tells.
psycho eyes, lock her up!
Just a normal day for the narcissist that she is.
WELL REHEARSED deceit.
Her body language tells the opposite though. She says no, whilst nodding her head
That head bopping while being asked questions makes me furious
Yeah that looks so strange especially from 5:52-6:11
@@CleAnthony Looked so creepy. The frequency was unnaturally periodic.
It's absolutely a nervous tick of a liar
@@CleAnthony I had to re-watch that one and it made me chuckle. Weird behaviour ...
@@eerohughes I wonder if it's a manipulative behaviour actually. Like she's bobbing her head to mirror the other person and indicate she's listening, but in reality she isn't and the audience finds it annoying.
She already fooled everyone the first time, she's trying to do it again. She's guilty.
100 percent, that’s why she got married and had a kid, just to get sympathy votes from everyone around her. She’s seriously troubled 😳
Average PhDs in biomedical science/engineer finish in 5.5 years now, plus 4 years of undergrad. It just surprises how people could believe in a college sophomore dropout! Did they check if she even completed bio 101 or genchem?!
i love how now that shes going to court she immediately opted for that curly girly appearance
"What? Me? I'm harmless."
and she is pregnant
And a pregnant belly too
Seducing powerful, old men in academia and business is how she was able to continue this charade for as long as she did...
but...but..i was told that old white men oppress the widdle deep voiced women?!
@@willwilliamson9580 only when they are overweight and ugly little man.
Yes. The only one who saw she was a phony was her FEMALE professor at Stanford. The rich geezers were not thinking with the brains in their skulls….
@@joyciejd9673 they were instead thinking with their 'oppression' brain washing.
I mean she seriously sounds like a lumberjack from the Yukon...
It's just so weird that she can lie to you while staring you in the eyes without blinking
sign of a pure sociopath
You never seen a politician talk?
Not blinking and faking the voice
Sociopaths 😳🤣
02:34 ...
I used to be impressed with Ms. Holmes's business acumen. Now I'm almost as impressed with her skills at committing fraud and lying.
This is grade "A" journalism and research behind it I'm seeing in long time.
Yes. One of the best pieces of reporting in a long time. And it has nothing to do with politics.
its from wall street
WSJ were the one who first broke it.
Honestly I felt bad for the investors until I found out who they were.
I don't think she had bipartisan representation in her backers, lol!
Patients are the real victim here, the ordinary people
Banks? Banks have to put your money somewhere.
Exactly. The jury won’t have much sympathy for them, and Holmes won’t see a minute of prison time. A hefty fine, perhaps.
@@officialspock Not really. The Walgreens rollout was limited to select locations (and not for very long), and there’s no evidence that anyone died as a result of decisions made based on the flawed results.
Rob $20k from a bank and get 20 years, defraud $9bn and they ask you to attend a deposition at your convenience.
She even fakes her deep voice. She was recorded on a call speaking normally and she sounds way different.
Her deep voice is her business voice everybody knows that, at and first I thought she was one of those transgenders but I heard her phone call and she's no baritone.
She won't see 5 minutes in prison because if they do that nobody will invest in these people who got scammed. Makes the Elite look stupid I predict suicide with 2 to the back of the head
@@mrhalvi She won't see prison simply because her family is rich and has connections - which I'm betting formed the bulk of her initial investors. The rich always live outside of the law as they pay people off.
She was a cage fighter and injured her voice box in a fight. She’s really tough though.
Her Dad worked for Enron. nuff said.
BEFORE that, Enron was a legitimate company with a good reputation.
The 'Apple' didn't fall far...
Ah, so the apple didnt fall far from the tree. I detest this woman. People who get blood tests need them. The whole trying to look like steve jobs is laughable. If she was black shed already be in jail.. If she does go that deep voice will get her a girlfriend really fast.
Of COURSE she got rich: She's a clinical sociopath.
same as every politician and multimillionaire
She was probably well off to begin with. Contrary to popular belief, sociopaths aren’t particularly smarter than other people. If you have money to start with, your grandiose schemes arent that farfetched. In this case it was just a question of when she’d get caught. But she got caught precisely because she isn’t smart
@@LaVerdad65 I think professionals determined sociopaths are smarter because sociopaths are always making egotistic claims they believe about themselves -- like that they can understand people completely and they can outwit any investigator, etc.
@@41357500 Politicians and Millionaires are not endangering the lives of sick people, she was playing with the lives of her patients, Big difference!
Please be safe, be tomorrow. Pandemics and war$ never produce afterlives, even if scammers and easily scammed types of people say the victims of 9/11 and medical malpractice went to a happyland in the sky.
So no one thought to check if her products actually did what they claimed?
Holmes was all about the image (black jobs turtleneck and deep voice), clever sound bytes, and a "fake it till you make it" mentality. Holmes dropped out of college almost immediately, so she didn't have the necessary scientific training. Theranos was doomed before it even began.
I gave her credit for taking these multi-Billionaires and multi-millionaires moeny. . JUST remember these multi-millionaires and Billionaires will not even buy you and me a coffee. Especially taking money from Lawrence Ellison (Oracle CO-Founder) is so sweet, he only goes for young people. I applied to get a job at Oracle age 40s despite a degree in computer science and experience, they hired a young lady in her early twenties with no experience. I give Elizabeth Holmes credit for taking his money and am proud of her. remember, she did not take money from poor people.
She has a Romy and Michele's High School Reunion voice!
Atleast she invented post-it notes. This woman is just a fraud 🤣
Lol so funny and true
Romi!
Yes!! Exactly like it
Mira Sorvino specifically
I guess all the sociopaths that invested in Theranos saw she was one of them and trusted her.
Which goes against all we currently know about sociopaths: They can spot other predators from a mile away, and are not easily manipulated. These people clearly inherited that wealth. The real sociopaths were their rich grandfathers ,who are now rolling in their graves witnessing their offspring's gullibility.
@@rickmorty7284 Ouch, that was harsh and funny at the same time.
@@rickmorty7284 they are not incompetent, the problem is that everyone has this simplistic idea that scientific progress is exponencial and infinite (which is not). Probably they though that she only needed enough money and time to make her idea work.
If she managed to get out of all the charges, then from tomorrow on, I start my own fraud and reference Elizabeth in my court hearing
If she spoke with her natural voice range, she'd sound just like her narcissist brother from another lab, the Mark 1 Zuckerborg.
Mark 1 Zuckerborg 😂😂
Hahahaha 😂
hahahahah I felt the same, he is also kind of a lier.
To the "infinity and beyond", this fraudster reminds me of the "Toy Story". I have to give her credit for being able to suck in "powerful politicians whom I thought are intelligent enough to question using their insight but..." backing her portfolio up drawing in a lot of well-known investors' money.
Feel sick for her though and not Mark. Because I believe she is really sick and now she will be punished a scapegoat for all the men doing the same thing everywhere but with a ferocity and insanity and slow drip of torture that no man ensures.
I've been anticipating for this! Ever since I heard this back in senior high I've been reading every news article available on the internet!
"You are special. Just believe in yourself. You can be anything" American propaganda gone seriously wrong.
Wonder why Martin Shkreli got 7 years in jail.....
It’s the Hollywood effect.
“Don’t push…everyone gets a trophy.”
America propaganda? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, bruh….
I think as well this is what happens when white people are overlooked during these criminal acts cause this idea had to get some steam and some chance to lift off , and all had to be in. This is real American problem and she should be put away for life as a lesson to many. This also shows how the medical system isn’t good in America in regards to checks and balances. Many things don’t work but can we solely rely on the fda ? Like where was the fda or the government in checking this scheme of a medical equipment things she said she created
Let’s see if a young white women can really go to jail for a long time !
Remember as you keep track of the trial, to narcissists, there is no such thing as negative attention. ALL attention is relished and cleverly used by the narcissist. "Negative" attention is merely attention that allows them to blame everyone else for their crimes and mistakes. Remember, a narcissist is ALWAYS the victim. ALWAYS.
The "We destroyed the evidence so you can't bust us defense" Sure, that'll work.
She learn from Hillary bleaching phones and servers.
She is a woman, we get it.. Now just put her in jail like how you would have done to a man for the same crime.
It's possible they'll sentence her lighter for that reason and give the Sunny dude a heavier sentence
Nah cause she white and blonde. 2-3 years max with a big fine. Or no jail time if she pleads guilty.
Seeing Senator Frist reminds me that Congress should be limited in how they can invest while they are serving office. She took a lot of folks for a ride, so this will be interesting.
Me too I was so shocked that sitting senators could invest in the very companies that they are supposed to regulate that is unethical
Vice President Joe Biden visited Theranos labs in 2015 and found it impressive. He called it the laboratory of the future.
@@m4st3rm1nd9 Well, obviously, they fooled a lot of people......at least they didn't have people violently attack the Capital.
invest? he was on the board
@@m4st3rm1nd9 Yeah, it's all his fault. I think Hunter was in cahoots too.
There’s a cough to cover a fart at 4.08, but the fart doesn’t arrive until 4.10 😂😂😂
I have a speculation: she will not see the inside of a jail for even a minute. Let's see if my understanding of "justice system" is correct.
I highly doubt she goes for free after ripping off 100 million dollars each from powerful people. She will definitely go to jail.
females dont get sentenced unless there is nothing a judge can do to avoid it. rapists, murderers, all known to avoid jail if female. A black man is 2100% more likely to receive a jail sentence in the USA compared to a white woman for the same crime.
probably will be given home arrest at the most since she will play the pregnancy card.
@@ebk_72 in NZ a mother raped her baby boy while recording it. The man who bought the tape was sentenced to jail, the actual rapist was given home detention. (story had a happyish ending, no one would house the rapist so the judge was forced to send her to jail to finish her minimal term)
@@KittenBowl1 Depends on what kind of overseas account kinetics have, if any, been taking place behind the scenes.
I love how she never really answers the question she is asked... She's like Charlie Harper with " I understand "...
She should run for office.... since she can't tell the truth
Like every politician ever…
I’m willing to forgive her for everything, if she promises *never* to use that voice again, ever.
🤣🤣🤣
Perhaps the deep voice is her "tell" - something she does automatically when she's lying. Many chronic liars have tells. Pathological liars do as well. It's something law enforcement look for, as do Homeland Security checkers at airports.
You didnt lose 200 million to her and it shows
@@bipolarcollie she does that deliberately because she believes deeper voice in industries like that is more beneficial cause you're viewed as more serious & professional
@@bipolarcollie She used the "voice" whenever dealing with the public or the investors because it made her appear to be a "strong" leader, blah, blah, blah.
Billionaires dont go to jail. Instead of rotting in jail for years because she IS guilty, she instead is walking to court freely when she feels like it.
Before: "I'm a strong, independent woman! Hear me roar!"
After: "I'm just a poor, helpless, weak woman... and now, you've made me cry."
She speak for herself. I don't know a lot of women out here defrauding ppl billions. 😒
Yes. And her physical image did an undeniable 350. Her utter transformation of the no-nonsense, aggressive, driven, change-the-world businesswoman scientist, to the straight opposite soft, feminine, appearance-focused mother-to-be is complete night and day. The change of hairstyle, softer makeup, shoes and clothing (including the conscious choice to wear colors at all), all equal, “But look at me. I’m not a criminal. I’m innocent.”
@@CatsArePeopleToo If you have a jury trial your lawyer will instruct you to change your appearance. My company was involved in a commercial lawsuit in the US and I was instructed to shave my stubble or else the jury will judge me as hiding something and it may affect the outcome. Sadly for juries, your appearance is relevant.
@@SerBallister what is your company
@@leokaran79 IT related
lol forbes image is kinda hurt by constantly announcing the next 'youngest female self-made billionair'. I feel like I've heard that 4 times in the past decade
They have to serve the agenda.
The one major thing Holmes forgot to emulate from Steve Jobs was having working prototypes before seeking additional financing from investors.
And having a team of true innovative creators to bring the dream to life through time plus trial and error.
@@joanofarc33 Aaaand a product that's actually feasible
@@Jonifico Yes that would have helped😂
The way she lies so effortlessly is incredible?
6:15 The hilarious part is her sending the blood tests out to other companies, like no one is going to find that out.
Wow....wasn't this from almost 4 yrs ago when she was indighted? Sure has been a LONG time to finally get to court. LOCK HER UP
*indicted.
But yeah, she somehow hooked up with a rich bozo and got knocked up.
@@paulyou4629 And then along came the Covid-19 hysteria that locked down the entire world and is continuing to do so.
AGREED Ryan! She had a baby trying to delay the court preceding and COVID-19 caused delays.
@@vaderthekittenchannel1979 she had a baby almost 2 yrs ago or sooner? Wonder if lil baby Liz jr. was born with an extra deep baby man voice so that in the future, every kid she meets in K grade will always believe her, no questions and gladly hand over all their snacks and toys leaving them with nothing. OK, my analogy wasn't best and maybe too dark of a joke about a kindergartner scamming all the other kids. lol, sahry lol...lol ha ha
John is one of the real heroes of this story. Thank you guys for telling us the truth under threats.
I hope she gets and serves the whole 20 years!!! She more than deserves it!!!
Doubt it..... she's got the complexion for the protection.
The nasty aspect is testing people. I don't care about the investors really
@@tomwright9904 agreed about the people that were tested. However not all people that invested were the business elite. I'm sure some were individuals that wanted a decent nest-egg for a comfortable future.
As an MD, I knew this was BS years ago when I first heard of it.
Hindsight 20/20😂😂😂😂
@@sanjeevkushwaha4043 No, it is just common sense.
@@Cbd_7ohm I know everyone has this common sense after the scam came out in media and as my father says "when the war is over everybody is a general"😂😂😂😂
@@sanjeevkushwaha4043 You act as if everyone was scammed. Anyone who saw the blueprint for the device knows it was never going to be made. It isn't physically possible with our technology.
@@Cbd_7ohm my point is before the scam came in media everyone was like - she is the next Steve Jobs, she is an inspiration for female entrepreneur, she proves that University is not important for medical startup etc
But after the scam came in media everyone is like - I already knew this idea is flawed, her father was the VP of Enron, she used her gender to gain publicity as the youngest female billionaire etc
People are wierd 😂😂😂😂😂
And here I thought she had already been convicted and life-sentenced...
Guess she's right about finding biased juries.
"I am a strong woman. I am a helpless victim."
The old adage of "Too Good To Be True" should have been a clue to all those investors who speculated on a "sure thing".
Looking at who she managed to take for mugs, I have to say it raises a smile lol.
yeah man!This woman is a fraud and a sociopath..
Saying that,you got to admire her for the run that she got.
The ultimate irony is that they propped up this woman without knowing ANYTHING about her product's efficacy just because they wanted to be able to tell a narrative about a young woman becoming some kind of global innovator. That's it, that's all it was about. And she took advantage of that every single step of the way. She wasn't vetted, her product wasn't tested, nothing.
Exactly!
@Bob Shingles 🤣
The negligence and lack of due diligence in this entire scenario is stunning.
I wonder where all the money really wound up.
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If you investigated politicians like this, we would not be in the idiotic authoritarian position we are in.
Honestly I’m amazed she can get herself a very rich man in the middle of all these chaos and even just gave birth to a baby. She’s very busy living her best life for sure 😅
she is good in manipulating men. thats how she got all that investment in Theranos.
Most psychopaths navigate through life pretty confidently. Elizabeth Holmes is a prime example.
That's the rich for you.
Good for her.
She's white of course she was able to marry well.