This video induces recollections of the 'good ole days' when every pickup in the high school parking lot had a gun rack in the back window, most had a rifle and a shotgun, and there was no fear of theft; and certainly no fear of a mass 'incident'.
I’m with you on the PSA. It shoots as well out to 200 yards as more expensive weapons. It has a red dot (Sig Romeo 5) and a folding brace . 1/4 of the cost of others.
I have a DECKED BED DRAWER system with locks as well as a locking tailgate. One side is 10.5” 5.56 with extra mags, ear pro, armor, kevlar, get home bag and some survival gear and the other side is tools and off road recovery equipment. A lot of the SWAT guys where I live have the same DECKED system and I mirrored mine off theirs minus all the cool SWAT guy stuff they keep like flash bangs and inflatable dolls 😅😂
This is not something to advertise in a comment my man. That is a lot of money and a lot of info. These phones and computers are not as secure as we hope.
It's cool and I like it, but when you leave the cab of your truck, unless you are on your property, it would seem you no longer are protected by the castle doctrine. How long does is take you to retrieve your firearm from the back of your truck?
This is my SOP for vehicle long gun: Unlocked and accessible whilst moving. Out of sight and secured whilst parked. Let’s now discuss securing long guns John. It’s time to get it done.
Guess real question is what has worse consequences? Theft of your firearm from the vehicle, or life and death scenario and you don’t have the means to affect outcome (survive) with you???🤔
@@genbigmac2872 I live (and pretty much stay) in a very rural area. Then entire county has a population of 12,500. If I lived closer to a city, it would be a different situation.
I always have a rifle in whatever vehicle I'm driving including my motorcycle. The cool thing about being old, retired and living in the country is I seldom have to leave my vehicle out of sight and if I do it isn't for long. Car break-ins are pretty rare in my neck of the woods. Those things allow me to carry a rifle I definitely would not want to lose but have absolute faith in.
A high school buddy of mine lost his virginity with LRB playing in the background. He played that album a whole year straight. Good band, but any band will wear on you after the 10000th time!
I have several backpack ARs. All short barrels between 8.5 in and 10.5 with folding stock adapters, red dots and lights. I consider them "get home bags" with first aid kits and life straws. Good vid, thanks and blessings John!
I put together a 300 BO SBR w/ a suppressor- it turned into my nightstand gun, because I didn’t want a $3k setup unattended in my vehicle. Put a Mossberg 590S loaded with short slugs in it instead- enough power to punch through vehicles, way less investment.
I am with you with the shotgun. I can't carry a pistol yet (stupid Minnesota conceal carry laws), but I like to throw a cheap 20 inch barrel mossberg under the seat. Its my get home gun, I could put a deer down if I hit it, and I can carry it in every state, and most cities without a permit. I can always carry extra ammo. 5 in the tube, with one in the chamber, if i use 2 3/4 or 3 inch. A few more if I use shorts.
Picked one up myself, just need to test mags and ammunition. With the stock collapsed, it's about as long as an 11" barreled AR, folded it's 2' long, no need for a tax stamp. I'm thinking that a blast forwarder or linear compensator would make a pretty good addition.
I love your moral considerations. Big part of why I watch you. This question is so situational. For me, where I am, statistically, I’d be more likely to arm a bad guy via theft I think. It’s a great question.
First of all I don’t arm criminals so I don’t leave guns in trucks. Second my truck gun is a B&T SPC9 because it fits in a regular backpack that I take with me when I get out of my truck.
Needed to be said. Your car is not a holster. Criminals get guns by smashing windows and snatching them. The idea that John has a cheap PSA because he's fine if it gets stolen... I thought he'd be smarter than that. What you keep in your truck is less important than how you store it. If it can be stolen, you are doing it wrong. I like your idea of keeping it in a backpack that you take with you when you get out of the truck. Keeps it accessible in the unlikely scenario where you'd actually need it.
What are you doing with the bag when you get somewhere you can’t take it? Tons of places don’t allow people to just carry around a backpack in their establishment..retail for one..are you just back to just back to the car at that point? These are things I’ve struggled with so just curious what you do
When I was in LE I saw so many guns stolen out of vehicles, locked or unlocked. I don't recommend leaving guns in vehicles period. Most Police Depts/Sheriffs Offices are running on limited man power and can't be everywhere at ones. We had 4 Officers on duty for a city of 50K +. 4. That said we had a small budget so if you wanted a patrol rifle you had to supply your own. So I carried a older PSA I built for $289 counting the transfer on the lower. It ran like a top and I had thousands of rounds through it. That said it was a "patrol size" rifle so I don't generally carry it in my truck, but a, still cheap, folding ar is now my go to. If you have to use it, you may or may not get it back.
To be fair a lot of us who have "truck guns" live in areas with lower crime rates, and unbought judges. My Mother lives in a city with a high crime rate, and she keeps her doors unlocked so the unchecked criminals won't break her windows because she live in The Peoples' Republic of New York.
Great opinion. Feel the same way bout leaving a gun, unsecured, in a vehicle. If you prevented a tragedy, and your gun was taken, it’d be a small price to pay, but your point is spot on. If you have a $3000 hot rod AR, u will never get it back.
@@Cloud_Surfer Thats actually one thing that was bothering me about Johns choices. He keeps saying "reach out and touch someone" If you are engaging someone beyond 50 yards, youre going to have a hell of a time rationalizing that shoot to the police. "yes officer, I saw him at 200 yards, and I felt he was a threat to my life"
Great things about guns is: You can have more than one without the others complaining, you can legally suppress them, when you get older you can trade a .44 for a couple of .22s and not suffer because of it. 🤷♂️
I guessed B because I have a similar setup. I don't leave the truck gun in the vehicle 100% of the time. I selective put it in depending on what and where. The bag it's in is not easily identified as containing a firearm. Everything is a compromise so I am confident my EDC will be sufficient most of the time. I understand that decision is betting my life and the lives of those around me but a balance had to be struck. Thanks for the videos and thanks for what you do for our country.
If it's out of sight, along with all other valuables and the vehicle is non-descript, the chances of it being stolen are slim. Given that you're not spending a whole lot of time in a bad area, that is. If they steal the entire vehicle, it won't matter how it's secured. They're going to get it.
I struggle with this one. There are days when my 11.5 Superduty does not leave my side, always accessible should the need arise. And others, when i don't feel comfortable leaving a $3k setup unattended. I also am very rarely in situations where my vehicle becomes out of sight, and i don't do too terribly much after hours, other than commute. I carry a duty sized handgun 24/7 and shoot it fairly well for most situations; but with the general rise in violence and terror activity world wide, i've found myself traveling with full kit more often than not if venturing out for more than a few minutes. Nobody is coming to save you and when terror strikes, those on scene need to be prepared to handle that situation accordingly, in my professional opinion.
@black sheep. Yes. Much agreement. I prep for as you say, "general rise in violence" and for the chaos, malevolent street behavior and neighborhood assaults that I think we, who follow JL, can all agree is highly likely sooner than later... This migrant invasion, yes invasion is well developed and coordinated globally. Immigration is a very profitable business as is sex trafficking and kidnapping. Migration of this magnitude is a civilization- altering event. Can one be too prepared? It's a common refrain, but who's the first responder in your life?
Something for where I live to think about is, loaded rifles are illegal in a vehicle, but pistols are legal, so a 12.5 with a brace is cool but a 16 w/ a stock isn’t.
@dirtygrunt some places like NY if you're compliant you cant have a fire arm with a magazine in the same case, semi autos have to be feature-less or pinned magazine and "assault pistols " as the state coined are pistols with a magazine in front of the pistol grip are also entirely illegal, along with other NFA items.
I personally wouldn’t leave an ar style rifle loaded with one in the chamber while in my truck. But some states now allow you to have one in the chamber of your rifle. Va is one of them. As far as truck gun, it depends on what truck I am in, and where I am going. Bear country I pack a Henry rifle. In the city 10.5 ar pistol. Other words pack accordingly
I don't have a truck gun because vehicle thefts are common in this area. If I did, would be something cheap, reliable, and powerful like a mossberg maverick 88 or something.
I'm in law enforcement. I found this online but have not used this exact setup. I have used similar on the job. The Santa Cruz SC-959-5-k9. It shows to be a cage mount, butt in a pic on their website it showed it mounted under the back seat of a truck. You can get wire trigger release switch or rfid release.
As a farmer, I keep a truck gun because it gets used for varmint control and opertunistic hog hunting. I have ram boxes that I mounted a quick release rifle mount into, so I have fast access, but good two layer locking for security. Mind you, I live in the middle of nowhere, so that helps. I keep a bcm 300blk with an lpvo mostly for the hogs.
Its fun to nerd out on different builds and ideas. I also appreciate the moral perspective here concerning leaving firearms in vehicles. The most recent statistics from ‘21 show the number of firearms stolen from vehicles each year is at least 50,000. Thats a minimum of 136 guns every day into the hands of criminals many of them repeat offenders, often violent felons. As stated in the video, be sure to Securely lock everything. Don’t be the guy who contributes to arming thousands of felons every year with free guns. 👊
I guessed your choice correctly immediately after seeing all 4 options. Ranger is as ranger does. High speed, low drag, range capable, low cost if lost. My personal choice would be my .300Blk. Set up similar to yours, it's compact, with a can, multifunctional with ammo selection, and won't wreck my senses. Currently has an LPVO, so target ID at distance is possible, but range with a 7.5" is limited.
He snuck that it in there so smoothly! I'd be worried about what Dirty Mike and The Boys would do with a truck gun. I've heard stories of that they do with a jar of mustard. 😮
I've been giving serious consideration to a 10mm Ruger LC Carbine setup for the truck gun and moving my EDC sidearm over to a mildly tuned Glock 20 10mm. Great ballistics, reasonable range, magazine interchangeability, can fit 2 30rnd Glock mags in a single AR mag slot, and wont break the bank if it grows legs.
I agree on 10mm. With Underwood Extreme Penetrators or Extreme Defenders. They will penetrate level 3 armor. So a small PDW like the P320 that John showed chambered in 10mm would be pretty good for short range. 300 Blackout for longer range. The 10mm in a six to eight inch barrel gives low end rifle ballistics that can stop bears. And humans.
As a 21 year LEO, my experience in the cities I have served and resided in, is that I've rarely needed my long gun. In contrast, stolen blasters from vehicles is a far more common occurrence. My recommendation is to have it out of sight and have some type of locking system in your vehicle if you plan on leaving it for long periods of time especially overnight.
I love the little pistol chassis though. Especially if it's winter and you got a big coat you can basically conceal carry it and if you take that pin out that holds the stock down. You can draw that shit and it'll deploy on its own and its super fast and accurate. Plus they look dope af
I keep a 16-inch 300blk build with the springfield prodigy 4.5 both have plenty of extra mags with lvl 4 plates, running shoes, gloves and get home bag all in a locking strong box behind a locked tailgate
I’m with you: PSA, 16”, 5.56, shooting 64gr Federal LE Hi-Shok with an Sig Romeo 7 red dot and a light. Simple, not overly expensive, reliable. The Romeo 7 is big so I may go to a smaller optic
As a little kid ive always wanted a P90 (Stargate, Metal Gear)... As an adult i still want one to keep in my vehicle. It might even fit perfectly on my door space
M&P 15 locked in a arma15 bracket behind the rear seat with a Master positional lock. Timing wise it ads about a second and a half to get it into service. It works for me. Hopefully I never need it. Great video sir.
There’s AirTag attachments they sell, I would definitely recommend adding one if you do decide to keep one of your girls in your car. (Don’t, but if you do might as well add an AirTag).
@@chuckray8389all of mine have them anyway. My backpacks have them hidden in them too. If you have a gun compartment cut a slit in the area with padding. Put one in and use Velcro to seal it back.
John & Warrior Team , Thank You for all your content!!! I carry the Kel-Tec sub2000 gen3 9mm with 147 grain Speer ammo….. Folds super compact, fits anywhere, shoots accurate, reliable, stays in the budget. 💪🇺🇸 -Nate, Ohio
@@grafyghtgaming8733 - Thanks. They are a quiet crowd and rarely show appreciation. But I'm not doing it for praise. I leave the scene knowing that I have made a positive difference.
Having a low cost long range solution makes sense, I just haven't bought one yet. I do however have a Ram 1500 with Ram Boxes that auto lock when you lock the doors for security. I carry all my survival and shit hits the fan necessities in them for quick access. The hidden floor compartments under the footwells of the rear seats are great for gear storage as well.
Sig MCX-RATTLER LT .300BLK is my Bronco gun. Purchased a new Bronco, Raptor edition a few months ago... Love that thing. The Rattler is compact, fits in a lot of locations and is a rifle caliber pistol. Win/Win
9:35 -- I'm thinking the PSA is going to win. It's not the nicest but it's capable enough, setup right, but it's also no big loss if something happens to it. Runner up is the .300 blk because I'd rather not damage my hearing or those around me, and the mixed mags gives you some quick tactical choice depending on the need. Now... on with the show!
Re listening to the warrior poet way. Damn John you made one heck of a book. Also gifted it to a friend. Merry Christmas brother keep up the good work. Looking forward to a second
9 inch folding AR in 300 BLK, and a can in a backpack. If I park in a shady area, I just carry the backpack and no one is the wiser. One mag of subsonic for ultra quiet operation already inserted in the gun, a second Mag of supers in case stuff gets even more serious. Solves every problem mentioned in this video for me personally.
Truck gun is a fun idea but the risk of it getting jacked is high. Thief: Hey that guy with the camo hat definitely left a gun in his lifted F150 with the Trump Vance bumper sticker and american flag decals. Just carry your EDC and have extra mags in the truck. That's what I do and you are covered.
I don’t have bumper stickers or any thing like that for that very reason . I don’t randomly dress in camo either . I subscribe to kinda the “gray man “ approach. I DONT want to be noticed or profiled . Either in day to day or SHTF
@@juanvaldez5422 When you said that I immediately thought of this video XD ruclips.net/video/cbauPzA3SD8/видео.htmlsi=oQcVVE4jRI7JFPLM Nothing wrong with being a grey man but the goal is to be as discreet as possible and blend in with your surroundings day to day. Most grey men stick out like sore thumbs and can be spotted a mile away
I think this is majorly situational. If in an area with high crime, don't leave one in your car ever. Hunter during deer season its gonna be the hunting rifle. In my state there is a ton of public use federal forest land and every year people get stuck and sometimes for days in the country (happened to me for a half day) and a long gun can be really nice for predators or taking small to big game for food. I 100% believe being the one with a long gun stopping a bad guy is never gonna happen unless your a cop. I don't believe there will be enough cues until mid to ending of the fight and by then boys in blue are going to be rolling in mad and last thing i want to be is an unknown holding a rifle. Concealed and medical is fine but no rifle.
The flux takes some getting used to... and it really shines when you are doing CQC and multiple target engagement, flat range shooting does not show its strengths
@@KenS826 600 clams with the sba brace. 500 with their own. Honest Outlaw and Hickok45 seem to especially like the Extar Edit: I believe it is only available on their website and not in stores.
This is hilarious, at 11:51, he stated that nobody will breaking into a Prius looking for firearms because you probably listen to little river band. I was listening to the little river band in my garage while watching this video. I don’t have any firearms in my Toyota Camry ever since my boating accident.
HERE'S THE DEAL: 1. Getting home> moral grandstand. - You'd rather be home instead of in the joint awaiting trial, or having someone sue you, look at Daniel Penny, Kyle Rittenhouse. 2 Don't bring it to the truck if you're not willing to leave it in the truck. 3. Don't leave it in the truck if you're not willing to loose it.
Helpful tip I’ve never heard in a video if you live in northern or cold areas make sure you either rock iron sights or see how your optic reacts going from warm to extreme cold or cold to warm.
I look at it like camping in the back country, pack out what you pack in. So it goes in the house when you're done for the day. Also easier if it can be in a smallish back pack. Love the Maxim Defense stuff and the SCW brace, buffer and short bolt combo is my fav at the moment, with a 6" 300 blk and a light. Also ear pro in my pack.
This falls under the same logic as NODs do for me: they are objectively something that will increase your capabilities but the chances of needing (and being able to safely deploy) the capability to reach out past 100-200m on a normal day are incredibly small. Additionally, closing that distance on foot is not always an unrealistic solution to this problem if you only have your daily CCW. I believe it really comes down to the financial situation you're in. If I'm keeping a rifle in my car, it's because I've already come to terms with losing the value that said rifle has to me. I really do think the chances of your truck gun being stolen are far higher than you ever using it. These circumstances obviously change if we enter a period of civil unrest (say, COVID 2), but then I'm just using my main rifle anyway.
That low profile light was one of the best lights I've ever bought for my platform, works well with the C grip. Thumb rests right on top of the switch.
So, I should be under-guned based on your supposed statistics? Your statistics likely only reflect cases where guns were used/fired to resolve a situation. I can attest to the fact that a Remington 870 is one hell of a deterrent. I worked a rural caseload of parolees and nobody ever challanged or even looked at me sideways when I was holding my 870. Just sayin.
Amazes me every time I watch one of your video's these days. It doesn't seem like it was very long ago I was watching you at the 9k sub level. My boy has really grown up! lol. Great stuff as always John, hence still watching at 1.5 million subs!
I like the can so I don't blast my ears out if I have to fire it IN my vehicle. - love the PSA - won't hurt if it's stolen and I can always put a can on it. Love the idea of straight lines with less to get hung up on.
My truck gun is a PSA AR-15,16" with A2 birdcage & collapsible carbine stock, with a primary arms 2X prism scope and a Olight Valkyrie PL turbo immediately in front of the optic. Nothing hanging off the side except a Magpul M-Lok sling loop.
As a cop, John is one of the dudes that if he showed up with a rifle I’d be like “right after you buddy” and then follow him into battle. I can recognize when I’m outclassed
For me when I do the 300blk, I like to use folding sights only, just to slim the profile down more. Spring loaded magpul sights only take a split second to pop up.
Honestly the best thing you can put in your vehicle is a handheld monocular spotting scope. I got an old bushnell online for about 20 bucks. It’s a 12-36 power and I reach for that thing all the damn time. Looking at critters across fields mostly but if you can’t see it you can’t even gather info.
I agree with the PSA as a truck gun because of the lower cost of buying it, and it's a good solid AR pistol. The only way I would probably go with the Flux is if it could be purchased in 10mm.
I keep a pair of track shoes in my truck because In England we are legally only allowed to run away.
Sucks to suck.
Didn’t know you were even allowed trucks over there
Move.
Read and be inspired by the US Declaration of Independence. Act accordingly.
That's funny shit, ...sad, but funny.
Step one: get a truck
Key word... Truck, lol
Step 1 of step 1:Sell kidneys
I just call it a trunk gun.
He addresses your crowd at 11:30. It pays to actually watch content before posting a comment.
@shyman99 still want a truck
This video induces recollections of the 'good ole days' when every pickup in the high school parking lot had a gun rack in the back window, most had a rifle and a shotgun, and there was no fear of theft; and certainly no fear of a mass 'incident'.
And dead ducks or doves strewn about the bed.
@@joehopper3720 That’s also back when we all agreed at least on the Bill of Rights.
Admittedly, we had a deer rifle of a shotgun...we didn't have super cool tactical gear.
God if we could only go back to those days. Now before a date, I have to ask the women if she has testicles, then ask her if she ever had testicles.
@@tacticalfart473 ...but we felt free-er, and local counties seemed so much "more polite" and relaxed.
I prefer the Trunk Monkey. I don't even have to get involved.
underrated preparedness strategy
This is the superior option. Also useful in traffic stops.
Eye gouging and poop tossing works.
@SheepDogNumber6 Sure, but you should see the commercials. Lol The trunk monkey commercials were hilarious.
@WessStewart seen em. Yes.
Nice to have some of John’s old school content back
I’m with you on the PSA. It shoots as well out to 200 yards as more expensive weapons. It has a red dot (Sig Romeo 5) and a folding brace . 1/4 of the cost of others.
Mine is very similar. Aero lower with folding adapter and suppressed psa upper with Romeo 5.
I have a DECKED BED DRAWER system with locks as well as a locking tailgate. One side is 10.5” 5.56 with extra mags, ear pro, armor, kevlar, get home bag and some survival gear and the other side is tools and off road recovery equipment. A lot of the SWAT guys where I live have the same DECKED system and I mirrored mine off theirs minus all the cool SWAT guy stuff they keep like flash bangs and inflatable dolls 😅😂
Shhhhh
Hi, have you done a video on your setup.
This is not something to advertise in a comment my man. That is a lot of money and a lot of info. These phones and computers are not as secure as we hope.
@@THEPRESTIGEWORLDWIDE what’s with the inflatable dolls? HOV lane?
It's cool and I like it, but when you leave the cab of your truck, unless you are on your property, it would seem you no longer are protected by the castle doctrine. How long does is take you to retrieve your firearm from the back of your truck?
Fold AR fits nicely in a smallish backpack, which means you don't have to leave the gun in the truck overnight or in sketchy places.
This... exactly this. I don't have a truck gun i have a get home bag or a tactical backpack.
Love mine...i think its the most practical ar made tbh
Excellent idea!
Yep. I have one and love it. Even came with a small backpack that it came with. Perfect truck gun.
This WOULD be the universal answer if we could carry backpack guns everywhere we go. Unfortunately that isnt the case.
This is my SOP for vehicle long gun: Unlocked and accessible whilst moving. Out of sight and secured whilst parked.
Let’s now discuss securing long guns John. It’s time to get it done.
Agreed
I just don't want to leave a firearm in my vehicle. Here in Middle Georgia, thefts of firearms from vehicles is a real problem.
Guess real question is what has worse consequences? Theft of your firearm from the vehicle, or life and death scenario and you don’t have the means to affect outcome (survive) with you???🤔
@@genbigmac2872 I live (and pretty much stay) in a very rural area. Then entire county has a population of 12,500. If I lived closer to a city, it would be a different situation.
So drive a Prius no one will ever think to steal a gun from that car!!😂
@Oilngld LOL, I don't need a gun THAT bad!
bring it inside every time u leave
"Yo, I just did something awesome."
Haha, fucking gold.
All these fancy truck guns, and here I am with a 16" A2 Carry Handle Dissipator.
Nothing wrong with that
Love the dissy setup!
ain’t nothing wrong w that bro
Love me a dissipator
Why you lying you know you own a powder blue Prius
I always have a rifle in whatever vehicle I'm driving including my motorcycle. The cool thing about being old, retired and living in the country is I seldom have to leave my vehicle out of sight and if I do it isn't for long. Car break-ins are pretty rare in my neck of the woods. Those things allow me to carry a rifle I definitely would not want to lose but have absolute faith in.
I keep little river band loaded in here at all times. I got 6 more discs in here.
So glad I'm not the only one who caught that Easter egg! Keep an eye out for Mike and the boys!
@@harrisonharding they call it a "soup kitchen" lol
A high school buddy of mine lost his virginity with LRB playing in the background. He played that album a whole year straight. Good band, but any band will wear on you after the 10000th time!
@chipsawdust5816 any band you loose your virginity to is a good band lol😂
I have several backpack ARs. All short barrels between 8.5 in and 10.5 with folding stock adapters, red dots and lights. I consider them "get home bags" with first aid kits and life straws. Good vid, thanks and blessings John!
I put together a 300 BO SBR w/ a suppressor- it turned into my nightstand gun, because I didn’t want a $3k setup unattended in my vehicle. Put a Mossberg 590S loaded with short slugs in it instead- enough power to punch through vehicles, way less investment.
I agree
Disagree. Limited capacity away from your stockpile of ammo. Good luck when red dawn happens 🍀
Shotty’s are always empty. I want more ammo than I actually need. But that’s a me thing.
I am with you with the shotgun. I can't carry a pistol yet (stupid Minnesota conceal carry laws), but I like to throw a cheap 20 inch barrel mossberg under the seat. Its my get home gun, I could put a deer down if I hit it, and I can carry it in every state, and most cities without a permit. I can always carry extra ammo. 5 in the tube, with one in the chamber, if i use 2 3/4 or 3 inch. A few more if I use shorts.
My recent truck gun has become a Ruger LC carbine in 10mm loaded with some underwood 140 extreme penetrators. It’s folded up in a sawzall hard case.
Picked one up myself, just need to test mags and ammunition. With the stock collapsed, it's about as long as an 11" barreled AR, folded it's 2' long, no need for a tax stamp. I'm thinking that a blast forwarder or linear compensator would make a pretty good addition.
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You'll never use it. I guarantee it.
@@earthsurfer13 what makes you say that?
@@earthsurfer13 I hope you’re right!
I love your moral considerations. Big part of why I watch you. This question is so situational. For me, where I am, statistically, I’d be more likely to arm a bad guy via theft I think. It’s a great question.
First of all I don’t arm criminals so I don’t leave guns in trucks. Second my truck gun is a B&T SPC9 because it fits in a regular backpack that I take with me when I get out of my truck.
Thank you. You just gave me an idea I hadn't thought of. I'm going to look for a back pack that will hold one of my pistol builds.
@ glad to help.
Needed to be said. Your car is not a holster. Criminals get guns by smashing windows and snatching them. The idea that John has a cheap PSA because he's fine if it gets stolen... I thought he'd be smarter than that.
What you keep in your truck is less important than how you store it. If it can be stolen, you are doing it wrong.
I like your idea of keeping it in a backpack that you take with you when you get out of the truck. Keeps it accessible in the unlikely scenario where you'd actually need it.
What are you doing with the bag when you get somewhere you can’t take it?
Tons of places don’t allow people to just carry around a backpack in their establishment..retail for one..are you just back to just back to the car at that point? These are things I’ve struggled with so just curious what you do
Guns get stolen from homes too
Step one: Train hard & smart.
Two: buy what you can afford
Three: carry what you buy 100% of the time.
Four: repeat steps one through 4 forever.
Merry Christmas my Brothers and Sisters in Arms, Blessings and love to you all and your families.
When I was in LE I saw so many guns stolen out of vehicles, locked or unlocked. I don't recommend leaving guns in vehicles period. Most Police Depts/Sheriffs Offices are running on limited man power and can't be everywhere at ones. We had 4 Officers on duty for a city of 50K +. 4. That said we had a small budget so if you wanted a patrol rifle you had to supply your own. So I carried a older PSA I built for $289 counting the transfer on the lower. It ran like a top and I had thousands of rounds through it. That said it was a "patrol size" rifle so I don't generally carry it in my truck, but a, still cheap, folding ar is now my go to. If you have to use it, you may or may not get it back.
To be fair a lot of us who have "truck guns" live in areas with lower crime rates, and unbought judges. My Mother lives in a city with a high crime rate, and she keeps her doors unlocked so the unchecked criminals won't break her windows because she live in The Peoples' Republic of New York.
Great opinion. Feel the same way bout leaving a gun, unsecured, in a vehicle. If you prevented a tragedy, and your gun was taken, it’d be a small price to pay, but your point is spot on. If you have a $3000 hot rod AR, u will never get it back.
C, I also have a Kel-Tec Sub2000 that works great as a Truck Gun.
thats my truck gun as well. .40 Gen 2
@@christiandulaney1638 solid choice. Hope no one is beyond 150y though
@@Cloud_Surfer Thats actually one thing that was bothering me about Johns choices. He keeps saying "reach out and touch someone"
If you are engaging someone beyond 50 yards, youre going to have a hell of a time rationalizing that shoot to the police. "yes officer, I saw him at 200 yards, and I felt he was a threat to my life"
@ agree. Love JL tho. Rarely need to reach very far in the usual urban locations you find the need engage with nefarious individuals.
Great things about guns is: You can have more than one without the others complaining, you can legally suppress them, when you get older you can trade a .44 for a couple of .22s and not suffer because of it. 🤷♂️
I guessed B because I have a similar setup. I don't leave the truck gun in the vehicle 100% of the time. I selective put it in depending on what and where. The bag it's in is not easily identified as containing a firearm. Everything is a compromise so I am confident my EDC will be sufficient most of the time. I understand that decision is betting my life and the lives of those around me but a balance had to be struck. Thanks for the videos and thanks for what you do for our country.
As a cop, I am begging everybody. No matter what gun you choose to use. Please have a way to really secure it in your vehicle.
They just steal the vehicle now a days
If it's out of sight, along with all other valuables and the vehicle is non-descript, the chances of it being stolen are slim. Given that you're not spending a whole lot of time in a bad area, that is.
If they steal the entire vehicle, it won't matter how it's secured. They're going to get it.
Yep, after having one stolen out of my truck, I just can't ever feel secure leaving one in my truck ever again.
As a civilian I wouldn't have to leave anything in my truck if there weren't a million bullshit laws telling me where and how I can carry.
Move to a free state or just carry.
I struggle with this one. There are days when my 11.5 Superduty does not leave my side, always accessible should the need arise. And others, when i don't feel comfortable leaving a $3k setup unattended. I also am very rarely in situations where my vehicle becomes out of sight, and i don't do too terribly much after hours, other than commute. I carry a duty sized handgun 24/7 and shoot it fairly well for most situations; but with the general rise in violence and terror activity world wide, i've found myself traveling with full kit more often than not if venturing out for more than a few minutes. Nobody is coming to save you and when terror strikes, those on scene need to be prepared to handle that situation accordingly, in my professional opinion.
@black sheep. Yes. Much agreement. I prep for as you say, "general rise in violence" and for the chaos, malevolent street behavior and neighborhood assaults that I think we, who follow JL, can all agree is highly likely sooner than later... This migrant invasion, yes invasion is well developed and coordinated globally. Immigration is a very profitable business as is sex trafficking and kidnapping. Migration of this magnitude is a civilization- altering event. Can one be too prepared? It's a common refrain, but who's the first responder in your life?
Something for where I live to think about is, loaded rifles are illegal in a vehicle, but pistols are legal, so a 12.5 with a brace is cool but a 16 w/ a stock isn’t.
Yeah, you don't have another option
Just don't have a round chambered then it's not loaded. Only takes a second to chamber a round.
@dirtygrunt some places like NY if you're compliant you cant have a fire arm with a magazine in the same case, semi autos have to be feature-less or pinned magazine and "assault pistols " as the state coined are pistols with a magazine in front of the pistol grip are also entirely illegal, along with other NFA items.
I personally wouldn’t leave an ar style rifle loaded with one in the chamber while in my truck. But some states now allow you to have one in the chamber of your rifle. Va is one of them.
As far as truck gun, it depends on what truck I am in, and where I am going. Bear country I pack a Henry rifle. In the city 10.5 ar pistol.
Other words pack accordingly
It's a hell of a world ain't it
I don't have a truck gun because vehicle thefts are common in this area. If I did, would be something cheap, reliable, and powerful like a mossberg maverick 88 or something.
I don't either. I do have a backpack bullpup that I don't always take, but when I do, it stays with me, never in the POV when I'm not in it.
With rifle sights or a red dot, that's a good choice. Especially with slugs.
I'm in law enforcement. I found this online but have not used this exact setup. I have used similar on the job. The Santa Cruz SC-959-5-k9. It shows to be a cage mount, butt in a pic on their website it showed it mounted under the back seat of a truck. You can get wire trigger release switch or rfid release.
As a farmer, I keep a truck gun because it gets used for varmint control and opertunistic hog hunting. I have ram boxes that I mounted a quick release rifle mount into, so I have fast access, but good two layer locking for security. Mind you, I live in the middle of nowhere, so that helps. I keep a bcm 300blk with an lpvo mostly for the hogs.
does it have to be supers for them?
@waynv1835 Not if you're fairly close (under a hundred yards), then a lung shot dose fine. I like the Hornady 190 FTX
Not sure how old your truck is, but how are the seals holding up? We've had trouble with moisture and dust in our Ram Box setup.
@@MrConaway 2017, no issues with the seals but I do park it in the barn, so that may help.
Its fun to nerd out on different builds and ideas. I also appreciate the moral perspective here concerning leaving firearms in vehicles.
The most recent statistics from ‘21 show the number of firearms stolen from vehicles each year is at least 50,000. Thats a minimum of 136 guns every day into the hands of criminals many of them repeat offenders, often violent felons.
As stated in the video, be sure to Securely lock everything.
Don’t be the guy who contributes to arming thousands of felons every year with free guns.
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Mini 14 with folding stock, for the win!
I live in an OPEN area and my truck gun is a Desert Tech 16 inch barreled .308 Bullpup.
I guessed your choice correctly immediately after seeing all 4 options.
Ranger is as ranger does.
High speed, low drag, range capable, low cost if lost.
My personal choice would be my .300Blk. Set up similar to yours, it's compact, with a can, multifunctional with ammo selection, and won't wreck my senses. Currently has an LPVO, so target ID at distance is possible, but range with a 7.5" is limited.
Little River Band CD out of your Prius. 😂 Gator needs his gat! hahaha
He snuck that it in there so smoothly! I'd be worried about what Dirty Mike and The Boys would do with a truck gun.
I've heard stories of that they do with a jar of mustard. 😮
I've been giving serious consideration to a 10mm Ruger LC Carbine setup for the truck gun and moving my EDC sidearm over to a mildly tuned Glock 20 10mm. Great ballistics, reasonable range, magazine interchangeability, can fit 2 30rnd Glock mags in a single AR mag slot, and wont break the bank if it grows legs.
I agree on 10mm. With Underwood Extreme Penetrators or Extreme Defenders. They will penetrate level 3 armor. So a small PDW like the P320 that John showed chambered in 10mm would be pretty good for short range. 300 Blackout for longer range. The 10mm in a six to eight inch barrel gives low end rifle ballistics that can stop bears. And humans.
The FPC would be cool too, especially if it comes out in 10mm
@@danielbell4007 INDEED!! :-)
G20 in a chassis is very deployable
My truck pew is a 12g pump buck pew rounds
My tactical Prius has been broken into. Left behind: Little River Band CD
Reminiscing..🤔
Glad to see Hillsdale jumping on with you guys ! They are 30 minutes away from me good people
My truck gun is the one I’m carrying.
Long guns are better in every way
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What makes you think I’m not carrying a long gun?😉
@@magdump7380 touché. Carry on
As a 21 year LEO, my experience in the cities I have served and resided in, is that I've rarely needed my long gun. In contrast, stolen blasters from vehicles is a far more common occurrence. My recommendation is to have it out of sight and have some type of locking system in your vehicle if you plan on leaving it for long periods of time especially overnight.
I have a CMMG Banshe. But, I would never leave it in the parked truck unless it’s on private property.
I love the little pistol chassis though. Especially if it's winter and you got a big coat you can basically conceal carry it and if you take that pin out that holds the stock down. You can draw that shit and it'll deploy on its own and its super fast and accurate. Plus they look dope af
Will you please make a video about storage options in the truck for these?
Right on john thanks for your time brother...love my 11.5 bcm with a law tactical folder
Ruger PC Carbine w/Vortex SPARC Solar in a Magpul backpacker stock
Isn't that the same issue as the Flux Raider? It is only 9MM.
I keep a 16-inch 300blk build with the springfield prodigy 4.5 both have plenty of extra mags with lvl 4 plates, running shoes, gloves and get home bag all in a locking strong box behind a locked tailgate
"I merc'd a bad guy..." LOLOL!!! Love it!! Great video, and topic has been my "Analysis Paralysis" for a while!!
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I’m with you: PSA, 16”, 5.56, shooting 64gr Federal LE Hi-Shok with an Sig Romeo 7 red dot and a light. Simple, not overly expensive, reliable. The Romeo 7 is big so I may go to a smaller optic
As a little kid ive always wanted a P90 (Stargate, Metal Gear)... As an adult i still want one to keep in my vehicle. It might even fit perfectly on my door space
M&P 15 locked in a arma15 bracket behind the rear seat with a Master positional lock. Timing wise it ads about a second and a half to get it into service. It works for me. Hopefully I never need it. Great video sir.
There’s AirTag attachments they sell, I would definitely recommend adding one if you do decide to keep one of your girls in your car. (Don’t, but if you do might as well add an AirTag).
Some AirTags are small enough to store inside the grip.
@@chuckray8389all of mine have them anyway. My backpacks have them hidden in them too. If you have a gun compartment cut a slit in the area with padding. Put one in and use Velcro to seal it back.
John & Warrior Team , Thank You for all your content!!!
I carry the Kel-Tec sub2000 gen3 9mm with 147 grain Speer ammo…..
Folds super compact, fits anywhere, shoots accurate, reliable, stays in the budget. 💪🇺🇸
-Nate, Ohio
same here.
I have rescued many cardboard humans in distress myself. 👍
The cardboard cutout community thanks you for your service.
@@grafyghtgaming8733 - Thanks. They are a quiet crowd and rarely show appreciation. But I'm not doing it for praise. I leave the scene knowing that I have made a positive difference.
But honestly how many innocent cardboard bystanders did you accidentally X out?
Daddy Garand has shot it out w Ron Jeremy himself on several occasions. Won every bout.
Having a low cost long range solution makes sense, I just haven't bought one yet. I do however have a Ram 1500 with Ram Boxes that auto lock when you lock the doors for security. I carry all my survival and shit hits the fan necessities in them for quick access. The hidden floor compartments under the footwells of the rear seats are great for gear storage as well.
The truck gun is to protect your Little River Band CDs, John. Priories matter here my friend.
Sig MCX-RATTLER LT .300BLK is my Bronco gun.
Purchased a new Bronco, Raptor edition a few months ago... Love that thing.
The Rattler is compact, fits in a lot of locations and is a rifle caliber pistol. Win/Win
Bro killed me with
“Looking for your vape”
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9:35 -- I'm thinking the PSA is going to win. It's not the nicest but it's capable enough, setup right, but it's also no big loss if something happens to it. Runner up is the .300 blk because I'd rather not damage my hearing or those around me, and the mixed mags gives you some quick tactical choice depending on the need. Now... on with the show!
This video was actually made just so John could flex that he finally got rid of his old F150 with a million miles and got a Super Duty.
I hope it’s not a 6.4 powerstroke
He’d be better off with a gasser than a 6.4 lol
@ FR international really screwed up making the 6.4
It’s not really a flex with that 6.4. Had one, never again.
It can't be any worse than the '03 power stroke with the 6.0 .
Re listening to the warrior poet way. Damn John you made one heck of a book. Also gifted it to a friend. Merry Christmas brother keep up the good work. Looking forward to a second
9 inch folding AR in 300 BLK, and a can in a backpack. If I park in a shady area, I just carry the backpack and no one is the wiser. One mag of subsonic for ultra quiet operation already inserted in the gun, a second Mag of supers in case stuff gets even more serious. Solves every problem mentioned in this video for me personally.
Go with the cheap option. Lesson learned from the boat incident.
Truck gun is a fun idea but the risk of it getting jacked is high. Thief: Hey that guy with the camo hat definitely left a gun in his lifted F150 with the Trump Vance bumper sticker and american flag decals.
Just carry your EDC and have extra mags in the truck. That's what I do and you are covered.
True ! I keep a keltec sub 2000 in trunk in spare tire compartment.
I agree 100% - came to this same conclusion years ago
I don’t have bumper stickers or any thing like that for that very reason . I don’t randomly dress in camo either . I subscribe to kinda the “gray man “ approach. I DONT want to be noticed or profiled . Either in day to day or SHTF
@@juanvaldez5422 When you said that I immediately thought of this video XD
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Nothing wrong with being a grey man but the goal is to be as discreet as possible and blend in with your surroundings day to day. Most grey men stick out like sore thumbs and can be spotted a mile away
Put a Bernie & COEXIST bumper stickers on the truck. Gotta be there n disguise
Excellent thought for a responsible and moral person. Thank you for thinking through this situation.
Finally someone supporting Hilldale on their videos. It's a better choice than any "Ivy League" school any day of the week.
Merry Christmas to you and your family. Glad you guys moved out to the country.
I think this is majorly situational.
If in an area with high crime, don't leave one in your car ever.
Hunter during deer season its gonna be the hunting rifle.
In my state there is a ton of public use federal forest land and every year people get stuck and sometimes for days in the country (happened to me for a half day) and a long gun can be really nice for predators or taking small to big game for food.
I 100% believe being the one with a long gun stopping a bad guy is never gonna happen unless your a cop. I don't believe there will be enough cues until mid to ending of the fight and by then boys in blue are going to be rolling in mad and last thing i want to be is an unknown holding a rifle. Concealed and medical is fine but no rifle.
The flux takes some getting used to... and it really shines when you are doing CQC and multiple target engagement, flat range shooting does not show its strengths
Extar EP-9. A sub-$500 option that’s accurate, reliable, and fun.
I like their business model. And the 45acp version. Just wish they made an 8 inch barrel 😊
Definitely looking into that one.
@@KenS826 600 clams with the sba brace. 500 with their own. Honest Outlaw and Hickok45 seem to especially like the Extar
Edit: I believe it is only available on their website and not in stores.
@stormlakebobcat9058 Honest Outlaw is where I saw it. He's my go-to reviewer 👍🏻
I agree with the rifle choice!
7:34.. nuff said
This is hilarious, at 11:51, he stated that nobody will breaking into a Prius looking for firearms because you probably listen to little river band. I was listening to the little river band in my garage while watching this video. I don’t have any firearms in my Toyota Camry ever since my boating accident.
HERE'S THE DEAL: 1. Getting home> moral grandstand. - You'd rather be home instead of in the joint awaiting trial, or having someone sue you, look at Daniel Penny, Kyle Rittenhouse. 2 Don't bring it to the truck if you're not willing to leave it in the truck. 3. Don't leave it in the truck if you're not willing to loose it.
Both guys you mentioned were prosecuted in joke states. Don't live in a joke state.
I have different perspective, instead of engaging what about having something to get out of harms way? Like EDC with a extended mag?
Helpful tip I’ve never heard in a video if you live in northern or cold areas make sure you either rock iron sights or see how your optic reacts going from warm to extreme cold or cold to warm.
he lives in georgia
I live in NH. I rock iron sites for this reason 😅
@ I know but the people he’s talking to are from all over
Solid video with great points. I am with you on the PSA if you do not have a way to secure. Plus, it’s better than nothing.
Ruger 10/22 with a 40 year old folding stock, 16" bull barrel, and 6x 25 round mags.
I bet it gets a lot more use then the guns mentioned in the video
@donh1572 Anything "in season" that is smaller than a moose.
One of the most underrated comments.
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I look at it like camping in the back country, pack out what you pack in. So it goes in the house when you're done for the day.
Also easier if it can be in a smallish back pack.
Love the Maxim Defense stuff and the SCW brace, buffer and short bolt combo is my fav at the moment, with a 6" 300 blk and a light. Also ear pro in my pack.
This falls under the same logic as NODs do for me: they are objectively something that will increase your capabilities but the chances of needing (and being able to safely deploy) the capability to reach out past 100-200m on a normal day are incredibly small. Additionally, closing that distance on foot is not always an unrealistic solution to this problem if you only have your daily CCW. I believe it really comes down to the financial situation you're in. If I'm keeping a rifle in my car, it's because I've already come to terms with losing the value that said rifle has to me. I really do think the chances of your truck gun being stolen are far higher than you ever using it.
These circumstances obviously change if we enter a period of civil unrest (say, COVID 2), but then I'm just using my main rifle anyway.
Completely agree it’s just a game of numbers
That low profile light was one of the best lights I've ever bought for my platform, works well with the C grip. Thumb rests right on top of the switch.
The chance of a truck gun getting stolen is much higher then the chance for needing one for a bad situation.
Chose one you can live without
So, I should be under-guned based on your supposed statistics? Your statistics likely only reflect cases where guns were used/fired to resolve a situation. I can attest to the fact that a Remington 870 is one hell of a deterrent. I worked a rural caseload of parolees and nobody ever challanged or even looked at me sideways when I was holding my 870. Just sayin.
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@@johnelder4273 under gunned? Guned gooh ned
@@crujones4915 then ...... typos happen, or oversights
Amazes me every time I watch one of your video's these days. It doesn't seem like it was very long ago I was watching you at the 9k sub level. My boy has really grown up! lol. Great stuff as always John, hence still watching at 1.5 million subs!
I like the can so I don't blast my ears out if I have to fire it IN my vehicle. - love the PSA - won't hurt if it's stolen and I can always put a can on it. Love the idea of straight lines with less to get hung up on.
My truck gun is a PSA AR-15,16" with A2 birdcage & collapsible carbine stock, with a primary arms 2X prism scope and a Olight Valkyrie PL turbo immediately in front of the optic. Nothing hanging off the side except a Magpul M-Lok sling loop.
As a cop, John is one of the dudes that if he showed up with a rifle I’d be like “right after you buddy” and then follow him into battle. I can recognize when I’m outclassed
Right, as a 23 old deputy I can see it also lol.
Dead Foot Arms: 2.55" Buffer Tube & collapsed stock/brace
Suppressed 7” 9mm braced pistol and 147g HSTs. If I need to go further than that, I’m just gonna do a 180 and GTHO
For me when I do the 300blk, I like to use folding sights only, just to slim the profile down more. Spring loaded magpul sights only take a split second to pop up.
870, 26" rifle sight barrel, and magnum slugs... got four other types of ammo for it too.
The FK BRNO PSD 7.5 with a red dot, light and stabilizing braze (folding stock)
That gun is a BEAST
Honestly the best thing you can put in your vehicle is a handheld monocular spotting scope.
I got an old bushnell online for about 20 bucks. It’s a 12-36 power and I reach for that thing all the damn time.
Looking at critters across fields mostly but if you can’t see it you can’t even gather info.
The end about the Prius... Awesome!!! 😂
The beard is back!
I agree with the PSA as a truck gun because of the lower cost of buying it, and it's a good solid AR pistol. The only way I would probably go with the Flux is if it could be purchased in 10mm.
About 4 years ago you did a EDC truck setup. Id love to see an updated version, all the little things you bring with you every day.
Your exactly right about vehicle. I have an old paint pealing economy car that I keep expensive work tools in. No one gives it a second look.
I have a trunk gun. It goes with me everywhere. irritates my wife. Comes in with me. Goes out with me. And it is a PSA.
My truck gun is PSA 10.3 AR 5.56 pistol w/ PA 1x prism. Cheap in case of being stolen or having to be entered as evidence.