I have a question for you Bryan! So at 3:09 when you said you hear a gentle whistle and play that 2nd line G, can you do this higher like let's say at a 4th space E or G right above the staff? I'm trying to this, but I still get a buzz after I take my mouthpiece out when I play 2nd line G or even Low C!! Do you have any tips? Edit: I saw Lynn Nichsolson's video on over blowing - ruclips.net/video/92vt0B_fTis/видео.html Do you think playing with a mute might help with overblowing? Thanks again, Bryan! Love the work!
Stumbled across your channel today loved this episode now off to follow your other videos. I play lead trumpet in a number of big bands and I’m constantly playing right up the top. Double high c’s etc and I have to make sure i can get through the whole gig. What you day about over blowing is spot on. I’ve recently changed my mouthpiece to the Bill Chase Schilke model and I’m now ‘backing off’ letting the instrument do its thing although I never really used the ‘pressure’ method sometimes I’d fall into that on the last number of the night, not any longer. Again you’re spot on with regards to tension etc if you can feel relaxed and easy it does become easier to play anyhow thanks for videos cheers 🍻
I think Claude Gordon was right about mouthpiece buzzing, in that the lip cells will be acclimating to a false air stream of the mouthpiece alone, with the tongue level being thrown off. Need the rest of the pipe for the standing wave you spoke about. Playing the mouthpiece is one embouchure and playing with it in the horn is another and both fight each other for dominance. Better to warm up using notes gently on the horn than with the mouthpiece. CG was a monster player in his day playing lead for CBS radio and many Circuses.
That’s basically exactly what I said in the video - buzzing the mouthpiece is not the exact same approach as playing. However, it’s certainly not a “different embouchure” as the formation and position of the teeth, lips and surrounding musculature is the same. The tongue level can be the same or different, but that depends more on whether you’re breathing and supporting correctly, and your overall familiarity with actively using tongue level. My question to you is: have you tried it?
man i remember i use to use a lot of mouthpiece pressure and a lot of over blowing in my freshman year, worst feeling is had chops that didn't feel good and was not a good option, now a junior in can play better in don't over blow and not tense upstairs thanks to you pros
Hi Bryan after blowing for over forty years and I'm a casual player now I stumbled on your lip buzzing video. The M shape thing helped me a lot as I used to buzz my loops while overlapping my bottom lip with the top lip. However I find it hard to use tgat buzz in actual playing. Any help with that? I had success once where I felt the air flow so smoothly over the register but I can't seem to get it back.
Lip buzzing is a great exercise for working on your embouchure form, but it’s not exactly the same as how our lips work when we play. With the mouthpiece and trumpet attached, the lips don’t need to work nearly as hard. The lip buzz is particularly useful for engaging and involving the corners in the function of your embouchure. Focus on the grip being present in the corners and letting the air flow nice and easily when you’re playing the trumpet.
No. When we’re playing efficiently, we don’t buzz our lips into the horn. Instead, the lip vibration is caused by the standing wave in the front end of the system.
@@AirflowMusicNYC Yes. Thank you,and congratulation your channel. I've been following the lessons for a while, you are very good teacher! Thank you! (From Hungary)
This is such an important point! I realized🙈 way to late that buzzing does not produce the note! Just knowing this has made my playing much more relaxed! ( your points on very limited buzzing are quite interesting.. I‘m looking into them! I‘ a french horn player btw) @@AirflowMusicNYC
So are you overblowing if you take the mouthpiece out while you're playing loud and your mouthpiece starts buzzing? If so, how do you play loud in a way that isn't overblowing?
The buzz is caused by excess lip tension, which is the actual symptom of overblowing. There will eventually be a point of loudness at which it’s unavoidable. That’s the same point that the timbre changes when you play loud on the horn. It’s particularly noticeable when the sound changes if you practice crescendos from a comfortable medium. That’s also what you need to practice to develop your dynamics. I posted a Volume Series as Exercise of the Week #4. Check that out - search for it on RUclips. Thanks for watching and taking time to comment.
Thank my parents, I guess. I figure it's just good manners. I'm not as quick to get to them all as I'd like, right now, because there's been a noticeable increase in the amount of comments lately - but I do get to them all in the end!
Cracking notes is caused by something being out of balance - maybe the airspeed is wrong, maybe the tongue position/articulation point is off, etc. Overblowing could contribute to that but also, since most players overblow to an extent, many can still play accurately as well.
Mouthpiece buzzing, you mean? It's equally beneficial to get audible feedback about the quality of your airstream. You just have to remember that it's more effort than we expend when playing with the instrument attached. I recommend you check out some videos on the subject by my friend and low brass colleague Ron Wilkins - an excellent trombonist who works on a lot of mouthpiece buzzing. Start here: ruclips.net/video/butexzoKI4A/видео.html
Anything about Overblowing that I missed? Any other questions or feedback? Let’s hear them...
I have a question for you Bryan! So at 3:09 when you said you hear a gentle whistle and play that 2nd line G, can you do this higher like let's say at a 4th space E or G right above the staff?
I'm trying to this, but I still get a buzz after I take my mouthpiece out when I play 2nd line G or even Low C!! Do you have any tips?
Edit: I saw Lynn Nichsolson's video on over blowing - ruclips.net/video/92vt0B_fTis/видео.html
Do you think playing with a mute might help with overblowing?
Thanks again, Bryan! Love the work!
Stumbled across your channel today loved this episode now off to follow your other videos. I play lead trumpet in a number of big bands and I’m constantly playing right up the top. Double high c’s etc and I have to make sure i can get through the whole gig. What you day about over blowing is spot on. I’ve recently changed my mouthpiece to the Bill Chase Schilke model and I’m now ‘backing off’ letting the instrument do its thing although I never really used the ‘pressure’ method sometimes I’d fall into that on the last number of the night, not any longer. Again you’re spot on with regards to tension etc if you can feel relaxed and easy it does become easier to play anyhow thanks for videos cheers 🍻
Thanks for watching - I’m glad you’ve stumbled across my videos.
I think Claude Gordon was right about mouthpiece buzzing, in that the lip cells will be acclimating to a false air stream of the mouthpiece alone, with the tongue level being thrown off. Need the rest of the pipe for the standing wave you spoke about. Playing the mouthpiece is one embouchure and playing with it in the horn is another and both fight each other for dominance. Better to warm up using notes gently on the horn than with the mouthpiece. CG was a monster player in his day playing lead for CBS radio and many Circuses.
That’s basically exactly what I said in the video - buzzing the mouthpiece is not the exact same approach as playing. However, it’s certainly not a “different embouchure” as the formation and position of the teeth, lips and surrounding musculature is the same. The tongue level can be the same or different, but that depends more on whether you’re breathing and supporting correctly, and your overall familiarity with actively using tongue level.
My question to you is: have you tried it?
So well explained. Thanks Bryan
You’re welcome, Mike. Glad it was helpful.
Great series, Bryan! Looking forward to hear more about the three compressions and expanding on the "weakest compression." -Jon
Thanks for watching, Jon. More soon!
man i remember i use to use a lot of mouthpiece pressure and a lot of over blowing in my freshman year, worst feeling is had chops that didn't feel good and was not a good option, now a junior in can play better in don't over blow and not tense upstairs thanks to you pros
Thanks!
Great stuff Bryan! :-)
Thanks Ewan! :-)
Thank you
Great video Bryan. Completely agree!
Glad you enjoyed it, Bruce. Thanks for watching!
Hi Bryan after blowing for over forty years and I'm a casual player now I stumbled on your lip buzzing video. The M shape thing helped me a lot as I used to buzz my loops while overlapping my bottom lip with the top lip. However I find it hard to use tgat buzz in actual playing. Any help with that? I had success once where I felt the air flow so smoothly over the register but I can't seem to get it back.
Lip buzzing is a great exercise for working on your embouchure form, but it’s not exactly the same as how our lips work when we play. With the mouthpiece and trumpet attached, the lips don’t need to work nearly as hard. The lip buzz is particularly useful for engaging and involving the corners in the function of your embouchure. Focus on the grip being present in the corners and letting the air flow nice and easily when you’re playing the trumpet.
@@AirflowMusicNYC Thanks Bryan. I will try that.
Hi! It means all the time you need to buzzing? Great channel! Thank you for your answer, Sir !
No. When we’re playing efficiently, we don’t buzz our lips into the horn. Instead, the lip vibration is caused by the standing wave in the front end of the system.
@@AirflowMusicNYC i hoped...😃 I'm only "in 4 mounths..."
If I understand correctly, and you’ve only been playing for 4 months, then don’t worry about any of this stuff just yet.
@@AirflowMusicNYC Yes. Thank you,and congratulation your channel. I've been following the lessons for a while, you are very good teacher! Thank you! (From Hungary)
This is such an important point! I realized🙈 way to late that buzzing does not produce the note! Just knowing this has made my playing much more relaxed!
( your points on very limited buzzing are quite interesting.. I‘m looking into them! I‘ a french horn player btw) @@AirflowMusicNYC
Great video Bryan.
Thanks Bailey. Appreciate you watching!
Great video!
So are you overblowing if you take the mouthpiece out while you're playing loud and your mouthpiece starts buzzing? If so, how do you play loud in a way that isn't overblowing?
The buzz is caused by excess lip tension, which is the actual symptom of overblowing. There will eventually be a point of loudness at which it’s unavoidable. That’s the same point that the timbre changes when you play loud on the horn. It’s particularly noticeable when the sound changes if you practice crescendos from a comfortable medium. That’s also what you need to practice to develop your dynamics. I posted a Volume Series as Exercise of the Week #4. Check that out - search for it on RUclips.
Thanks for watching and taking time to comment.
@@AirflowMusicNYC wow I didn't actually expect you to respond thank you!
It takes a day or two, sometimes, but I always get to it in the end.
@@AirflowMusicNYC that's so awesome that you do that!
Thank my parents, I guess. I figure it's just good manners. I'm not as quick to get to them all as I'd like, right now, because there's been a noticeable increase in the amount of comments lately - but I do get to them all in the end!
just wondering i tried this but as I went up in the partials quietly and pulled the mouthpiece off it came out as a quiet buzz. Is that a problem?
The higher you try it, the harder it is to not buzz. Because less air is required the higher you go, it’s easier to overblow and, therefore, buzz.
Does overblowing cause you to crack notes?
Cracking notes is caused by something being out of balance - maybe the airspeed is wrong, maybe the tongue position/articulation point is off, etc. Overblowing could contribute to that but also, since most players overblow to an extent, many can still play accurately as well.
How well does this work for larger instruments such as euphonium
Mouthpiece buzzing, you mean? It's equally beneficial to get audible feedback about the quality of your airstream. You just have to remember that it's more effort than we expend when playing with the instrument attached. I recommend you check out some videos on the subject by my friend and low brass colleague Ron Wilkins - an excellent trombonist who works on a lot of mouthpiece buzzing. Start here: ruclips.net/video/butexzoKI4A/видео.html
Can you play loud without overblowing
Yes.
@@AirflowMusicNYC alright thanks videos really help me out btw
My tutor says that I play fine but when I take my mouth piece out of my trumpet it still buzzes.
Don’t worry too much about that. As long as your sound is good on the horn, that’s the important thing.
@@AirflowMusicNYC thank you. I guess your right.
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