I can't afford this watch, but as my tastes run to the minimalist, non ostentatious, and classic, it is breathtakingly beautiful in its simplicity. Thanks for the video. I would get one if I had the money.
Most of us who are lucky enough to wear them every day don’t care about giant, more dramatic looking “get your attention” watches. As far as most people can tell, we might as well be wearing a Timex. I have a 1960 Calatrava Automatic that I’ve worn for 20 years. It keeps impeccable time and the look says all I want it to. Understated Elegance!
I loved the look of this watch enough to purchase it. There is nothing more elegant in dress watches than this iteration of the Calatrava. Not a statement piece but maybe an understatement piece.
Teddy bring back the old intro👌 Great video. Please do a series where you focus on vintage watches that do get get the love they deserve, the less mainstream vintage.
I love "entry-level" Patek, it's a little like an entry-level Bentley. It's all relative for sure. I think t your video the other day of luxury to affordable maybe a good counter note would be the Seiko Presage SSA346J1 with the sunburst dial and the small seconds sub-dial... pretty kick ass piece! Another great video. I really do love the either or comparison you did the other day. Thanks for all you do
For the price and function, I'd go Lange Saxonia. I much prefer their mix of printed markers and super thin indices to the Calatrava's printed markers or thicker indices. Plus, the exact saxonia match for the calatrava is ~€5.000 cheaper! For the 20.000, I'd get the saxonia thin in copper blue, one of the most gorgeous watches ever.
As much as I love the Calatrava, I agree with you here based on my personal preference. And I TOTALLY agree on the blue copper dial. Perhaps the most stunning dial on a dress watch. That is actually my true grail.
amen, if I was filthy rich and was buying over 10K watch, Lange would be first on my list, so far nothing did catch my eye from PP or AP, not that I can afford it anyway))
My favourite Calatrava is that classic sized one with dauphine hands, no date and central seconds. That and the small second hand original are among the best timeless watch designs ever made.
I bought this Patek model from Tiffany and was branded Tiffany on the face. Anyway I just had the watch serviced after 20years which took about six months. The wait was well worth it as we received the watch from Patek and it was like a brand new watch, it was truly amazing. It kept time unbelievable as I checked the accuracy over a weeks time and it was perfect.
I’d definitely wear that with the case back on facing me. The dial looks kinda like a fashion watch but I think the clear case back almost makes up for it.
Nice video Ted, personally this watch does very little for me. I'm not a fan of minimalist design but I definitely appreciate the very fine craftsmanship. For this kind of money though, I'd prefer a GMT Master II and a Breitling Navitimer, and possibly a Tudor with what's left haha.
In my view, this PP Calatrava is the best model the firm has ever made. Simplicity, elegance and quality, the ultimate power watch. Forget complications! This is the only PP I would consider.
I love the Calatrava particularly the 5196R that is somewhat unstated yet probably even more elegant IMHO. When will you feature the Golden Ellipse, probably the true sleeper watch in the PP range?
Everyone who knows and/or loves watches knows PP. The vast majority of the population has never heard of them. And thankfully, I have a nice home to sleep in. And a Patek. Do you?
I love and appreciate watches but I just can’t see 20k value in this one, what percentage of that price is just for the name...a lot I would guess Great video though Teddy
I’ve never worn this watch but I’ve always wanted a circular silver case with black leather strap option since that’s the classic dress watch combination.
If I ever get a Patek this is most likely it, not only because the price, but I think this is the most attractive dress watch you can find bellow $15k. I would for sure take this over a Lange Saxonia or a VC Patrimony, you are paying mostly for the brand regardless of which of the three you chose and then Patek Philippe is just the most valuable brand of them. I think I prefer the 5119R however, the rose gold makes it look even more elegant, might be wrong about that though..?
I truly laughed out loud in the intro. The Calatrava is one of the best out there but I think the Saxonia in pink gold with dial in argenté is a better watch and a smaller price.
I don't think I understand why AP is in the top three watch makers when Vacheron and Patek have at least 5 historic beautiful watches they are known for each, while I would bet that 99% of AP sales are the royal oak (or offshore which doesn't feel that different)
How in any way is it not perfect, I think it’s about as close as you can get for what it is. I’ve owned Patek, Journe, AP, Vacheron, Lange, RM in multiple varieties yet this piece has that “it” factor. Wind & wear with a polo or a suit. The contrast of the lacquered white dial, blued hands and black Roman numerals coupled with the warm yellow gold and hobnail accents makes it unlike anything else☝🏻😉
Thanks for the always-great reviews and insight. So I have a ref 3919, and I am shocked at how less value it is commanding on the market than the 5119. Is it because of the display back ? We are talking about a roughly US$7000 difference between both models. What gives ? Any other explanations ? Would love to know..... Many thanks amigo !!
Beautiful in it's simplicity. Wouldn't chose it in a 20k dress watch bracket, as I would like a more updated technology that is easier to service. But for Vintage collectors it's a bargain. Ps. DAT BEZEL !!!
A friend of mine gave it to me , for getting the blue Seiko Alpinist , not because of the LE controversy , but “it was time to save up for the goooood watch” he said, well , i did not want to dip in the tenuous resources 6-12000. Canadian now.what say you Teddy?
Teddy, you made a mistake when you said that this Calatrava 5119J had a white enamel dial. It is actually *lacquer.* It’s possible you were thinking of the Calatrava 5116R, which features an enamel dial but is executed in 18k rose gold.
this watch did nothing for me until i saw it in the flesh. i now love it, though i have the two handed version (so the non hacking really doesnt bother me)
My favorite Calatrava variation, it’s the perfect dress watch. I’ve heard that Patek are discontinuing this hobnail version and all its iterations later this year ☹️
Teddy Baldassarre I hope you’re right! My ultimate version of this model, would be with the rarer enameled dial. Oh and if I had the money (I don’t) this would definitely be my first Patek!
The movement, fancy as it is, will look familiar to anyone who has had a look inside practically any Swiss Incabloc watch from the 1950s or 60s. This is a very conservative watch indeed, the main surprise being the 9-¾ ligne movement in a 36mm case. Which explains the position of the subdial, no doubt. (For comparison I have a 28mm watch with an 11 ligne mechanism I've been putting off fiddling with because it's a bit dauntingly small). I assumed that Patek would be using the 215PS in some dainty ladies' watches, but apparently not: 33mm diameter is the smallest they do. This strikes me as exceedingly odd. Anyway, unless seen as an investment there's nothing here to justify the price tag except the brand and the exclusivity. I'd far rather take a vintage piece from a good name and pocket the change, which would be a tidy sum.
It’s the perfect elegant dress watch! Just the £25,000 price tag and not really needing something that formal that often put me off! Plus it is rather delicate and in my view not waterproof. If I had the dollar I would have one to wear with a formal suit!
Your comment on 6:27 is accurate. It's a nice watch but it's not a 20k USD watch. PPs watches are so versatile, but are so bland and boring unless you go to the super expensive complications. I own the 5711, and it's so versatile I can wear it with a suit, a denim jacket, or shorts. But like the very versatile gray suit, it surely gets bboorriiiiiiinggggggggg on its own. I can say the same for this Calatrava, overall nice case, movement, and dimensions; but like the 5711, remove the "Patek Philippe" from the dial and it's meh.
Coming from someone who’s in the market for a watch at this level - I’m just wondering how much of that 20,000 is brand value. When we put this up against the JLC ultra thin line, I feel like we’re getting a more modern movement, added complications and automatic winding with the JLC. In gold, we’re looking at similar prices. I think I’d go for the JLC.
If I were cross shopping JLC and Calatrava I’d look at Piaget. I have a Calatrava for the rare times I need a dress watch, but for a more daily affair that understated Piaget is solid.
Hi, Bradley. When someone buys a watch of this level, I would say he/she not only looks at the watch itself but also at the brand and its heritage. In my point of view this is a very nice classic watch. Ok, I'm biased since I have one of this 😉 But, in my opinion, Patek is the "gold standard" for all watch brands. Everyone compares themselves to Patek: "...as good as PP...", "better than PP...", but always PP is the comparison pattern but others brands. Additionally, the PP cases are more elaborate than those from other brands as, for example, Lange&Sohne and others, which are always the same and sometimes boring. And last not least, in the used market, nobody beats Patek. This must make some sense... All the best.
Entry Level and Patek are just words that don’t seem like they belong together. 😂
Seriously though... beautiful piece!
Haha it is the truth in this case. It appears to be the least expensive contemporary mens watch from the brand LOL
Thanks for not forgetting your metric friends ❤️
I was about to say it was a nice touch. Peace.
The simplicity and elegance of this classic design is just plain beautiful!
I had a feeling something was up with the intro 😂😂😂 nice one, Teddy
I wore it the entire video just to put my plebian self in his place haha
Hello we have same watch ⌚ old ppg antique piece
Ppg 750 Genev
I have a 3919 and it has, since I was a kid, been my favorite design. So understated.
I can't afford this watch, but as my tastes run to the minimalist, non ostentatious, and classic, it is breathtakingly beautiful in its simplicity. Thanks for the video. I would get one if I had the money.
Loved the intro. I love Calatrava's and their simplistic, yet elegant and timeless design. Great watch, sad I can't afford it
Exquisitely elegant -- timeless and classic! Beautiful work of art!
Most of us who are lucky enough to wear them every day don’t care about giant, more dramatic looking “get your attention” watches. As far as most people can tell, we might as well be wearing a Timex. I have a 1960 Calatrava Automatic that I’ve worn for 20 years. It keeps impeccable time and the look says all I want it to. Understated Elegance!
It's funny that just a couple years ago, I would have found this watch revolting. Now I think it's one of the best watches around, period.
The value is in the Vintage market. I've seen a nice looking Patek watch in a shop window for 5k. There's no need to pay 20k.
Just a timeless watch that really represents the elegance of simplicity! The calatrava its just an ICON!
Couldn't agree more!
Well said 👍
Thank you for this video and to review this piece !
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I loved the look of this watch enough to purchase it. There is nothing more elegant in dress watches than this iteration of the Calatrava. Not a statement piece but maybe an understatement piece.
Ughhhh, I would love to have one of these. Doubt it will ever happen, but happy to appreciate its perfection
I love Patek Philippe but there is just too much out there at that price point that offers more. Great video!
Very competitive range no doubt. Thanks Lexx!
Watching this 3 years later and seeing current prices - yes incredibly worth it.
Teddy bring back the old intro👌 Great video.
Please do a series where you focus on vintage watches that do get get the love they deserve, the less mainstream vintage.
Fell in love with the black and white illustrations they ran in the 1990s for this watch.
Another superb review. Thank you!
Beautiful. Wish people sent me Pateks to review 😅 Will have to settle with my SARX019 and SARX029 I guess. Cheers, Teddy Bear
I love "entry-level" Patek, it's a little like an entry-level Bentley. It's all relative for sure. I think t your video the other day of luxury to affordable maybe a good counter note would be the Seiko Presage SSA346J1 with the sunburst dial and the small seconds sub-dial... pretty kick ass piece! Another great video. I really do love the either or comparison you did the other day. Thanks for all you do
That's definitely a watch guys watch. I would go for an A Lang if I had the money but I never will. Thanks Teddy...great job
For the price and function, I'd go Lange Saxonia. I much prefer their mix of printed markers and super thin indices to the Calatrava's printed markers or thicker indices. Plus, the exact saxonia match for the calatrava is ~€5.000 cheaper! For the 20.000, I'd get the saxonia thin in copper blue, one of the most gorgeous watches ever.
As much as I love the Calatrava, I agree with you here based on my personal preference. And I TOTALLY agree on the blue copper dial. Perhaps the most stunning dial on a dress watch. That is actually my true grail.
Agreed, I’ve just googled that watch as I didn’t know it and ..OMG what a Dial I love it....off to do some serious saving up...
Yeah the Lange saxonia thin is gorgeous and I prefer a Lange and sohne overall as a brand
Would be hard for me... I prefer PP brand personally and the class of a Calatrava such as this. But ALS is superb.
amen, if I was filthy rich and was buying over 10K watch, Lange would be first on my list, so far nothing did catch my eye from PP or AP, not that I can afford it anyway))
Great review, Teddy, thank you.
Daniel Wellington copy.
Less heritage
No name ok ...*Vincero 😉😂
🤣🤣🤣
MVMT is still the best watch.
What stupid comments watch a video about Timex
I have an earlier 3992. I love it. Belonged to my dad. Cool video thx for sharing
My favourite Calatrava is that classic sized one with dauphine hands, no date and central seconds. That and the small second hand original are among the best timeless watch designs ever made.
I bought this Patek model from Tiffany and was branded Tiffany on the face. Anyway I just had the watch serviced after 20years which took about six months. The wait was well worth it as we received the watch from Patek and it was like a brand new watch, it was truly amazing. It kept time unbelievable as I checked the accuracy over a weeks time and it was perfect.
Nicely said about Patek and it's affordability. Thank you.
Giving you & this video a like _just because of the intro._ 🔥
Great video. I love my 5153R. Best dresswatch ever.
The simple elegance of the 5227J makes it my favourite.
I’d definitely wear that with the case back on facing me. The dial looks kinda like a fashion watch but I think the clear case back almost makes up for it.
Love the dial and bezel. Timeless
Agreed. That bezel with the yellow is great to look at!
Nice video Ted, personally this watch does very little for me. I'm not a fan of minimalist design but I definitely appreciate the very fine craftsmanship. For this kind of money though, I'd prefer a GMT Master II and a Breitling Navitimer, and possibly a Tudor with what's left haha.
I have never seen a more beautiful watch.
In my view, this PP Calatrava is the best model the firm has ever made. Simplicity, elegance and quality, the ultimate power watch. Forget complications! This is the only PP I would consider.
Legendary start to the video
Two months ago I bought the rose gold Calatrava 5119R. Am happy with it.
I love the Calatrava particularly the 5196R that is somewhat unstated yet probably even more elegant IMHO.
When will you feature the Golden Ellipse, probably the true sleeper watch in the PP range?
Beautiful watch. True elegance is simple. Updated technology? It may be cliche but if it is not broken do not fix it.
When I wear my Patek, I love admiring a timeless watch that 99.9% of the population has no idea what it is.
trust me everyone knows what Patek is. It's 2021 not 1890. are you sleeping in a cave?
Everyone who knows and/or loves watches knows PP. The vast majority of the population has never heard of them. And thankfully, I have a nice home to sleep in. And a Patek. Do you?
@@RaynorTheOne not everyone, people think chicks know watches, they only know Rolex, that’s it
@@x-x9595 yep true...the ‘rolex only’ guys...I know them.😉
I love and appreciate watches but I just can’t see 20k value in this one, what percentage of that price is just for the name...a lot I would guess
Great video though Teddy
Well yeah, saying a watch is a patek certainly is worth something. The power of brand haha.
Pure class who ever says otherwise don’t know watches it doesn’t get any better the watch spells elegance and class
Great review
I’ve never worn this watch but I’ve always wanted a circular silver case with black leather strap option since that’s the classic dress watch combination.
Can you do a review of the 5120J-001 as well? Thanks!
If I ever get a Patek this is most likely it, not only because the price, but I think this is the most attractive dress watch you can find bellow $15k. I would for sure take this over a Lange Saxonia or a VC Patrimony, you are paying mostly for the brand regardless of which of the three you chose and then Patek Philippe is just the most valuable brand of them. I think I prefer the 5119R however, the rose gold makes it look even more elegant, might be wrong about that though..?
I truly laughed out loud in the intro. The Calatrava is one of the best out there but I think the Saxonia in pink gold with dial in argenté is a better watch and a smaller price.
I don't think I understand why AP is in the top three watch makers when Vacheron and Patek have at least 5 historic beautiful watches they are known for each, while I would bet that 99% of AP sales are the royal oak (or offshore which doesn't feel that different)
Bonus points for the intro! 😆
"entry level"
Expectation---> 700$
Reality----> holy shiiitt
Patek for 700$? Yeah seems legit
If you think ANY swiss luxury watch AT ALL has an entry level under $5000..... you have NO IDEA of luxury watches.
One of my favorite line of watches from PP.
How in any way is it not perfect, I think it’s about as close as you can get for what it is. I’ve owned Patek, Journe, AP, Vacheron, Lange, RM in multiple varieties yet this piece has that “it” factor. Wind & wear with a polo or a suit. The contrast of the lacquered white dial, blued hands and black Roman numerals coupled with the warm yellow gold and hobnail accents makes it unlike anything else☝🏻😉
That intro man 😂
Thanks for the always-great reviews and insight.
So I have a ref 3919, and I am shocked at how less value it is commanding on the market than the 5119.
Is it because of the display back ? We are talking about a roughly US$7000 difference between both models.
What gives ? Any other explanations ? Would love to know.....
Many thanks amigo !!
I love that Casio! Perfect size to wear under winter jackets.
Haha I love the Casio comments on a video about Patek.
Patek is eye candy otherwise irrelevant to me. Casio is cool
Love love love this watch!
Own a steel calatrava 3574...great watch from a great company....
Great Video. I loved hearing about the Calatrava. Thanks for doing a Patek.
Hahaha love the opening!
You said entry level then said 20K . My excitement of buying one started and ended in less than 3 seconds. Great video though as always .
Can you please give us a review of 6119G? Thanks!
Beautiful in it's simplicity. Wouldn't chose it in a 20k dress watch bracket, as I would like a more updated technology that is easier to service. But for Vintage collectors it's a bargain. Ps. DAT BEZEL !!!
Loving your content as a new subscriber ✌️😁
Welcome to the channel, Luke! Thanks for watching!
I have the same in white gold it’s a masterpiece
Nice product placement Teddy @ 2:35 - 3:00
A friend of mine gave it to me , for getting the blue Seiko Alpinist , not because of the LE controversy , but “it was time to save up for the goooood watch” he said, well , i did not want to dip in the tenuous resources 6-12000. Canadian now.what say you Teddy?
The Calatrava that I like is the 5107 in white gold ;)
Nice beginning hook
Another great video! btw I think it's pronounced Baw-house
An excellent review. May I ask if this comes in arabic numerals?
Simple and beautiful and I just love it.❤
Two months ago I bought the rose gold Calatrava 5119R. Am happy with it.
Teddy, you made a mistake when you said that this Calatrava 5119J had a white enamel dial. It is actually *lacquer.* It’s possible you were thinking of the Calatrava 5116R, which features an enamel dial but is executed in 18k rose gold.
this watch did nothing for me until i saw it in the flesh. i now love it, though i have the two handed version (so the non hacking really doesnt bother me)
Beautiful elegant watch. If it had Indiglo I'd be all over it. :)
My favorite Calatrava variation, it’s the perfect dress watch. I’ve heard that Patek are discontinuing this hobnail version and all its iterations later this year ☹️
That would be sad....I love these versions. The watch is due for an update though!
Teddy Baldassarre I hope you’re right! My ultimate version of this model, would be with the rarer enameled dial. Oh and if I had the money (I don’t) this would definitely be my first Patek!
The caliber 215 derives its name from the thickness, which is 2.15mm.
Whats your oppinion to Maurice Lacroix and Longines?
Teddy, plz review a few watches with milgrain, hobnail, fluted, ribbed bezels.
The movement, fancy as it is, will look familiar to anyone who has had a look inside practically any Swiss Incabloc watch from the 1950s or 60s. This is a very conservative watch indeed, the main surprise being the 9-¾ ligne movement in a 36mm case. Which explains the position of the subdial, no doubt. (For comparison I have a 28mm watch with an 11 ligne mechanism I've been putting off fiddling with because it's a bit dauntingly small). I assumed that Patek would be using the 215PS in some dainty ladies' watches, but apparently not: 33mm diameter is the smallest they do. This strikes me as exceedingly odd. Anyway, unless seen as an investment there's nothing here to justify the price tag except the brand and the exclusivity. I'd far rather take a vintage piece from a good name and pocket the change, which would be a tidy sum.
It’s the perfect elegant dress watch! Just the £25,000 price tag and not really needing something that formal that often put me off! Plus it is rather delicate and in my view not waterproof.
If I had the dollar I would have one to wear with a formal suit!
A Lange Saxonia entry level is my preference over this Patek
Best intro ever
Hahaha
Beautiful watch!
How much is a Patek ref. 96 in mint condition w/ box worth?
It is beautiful, it is outstanding, but for this kind of money I'd take some Grand Complication, or Frederique Constant or Nomos... And a Corvette ;)
Well Patek is more like a status symbol instead of great-value luxury watch.
Hahaha I get that for sure
you say that, but you wouldn't.
The Corvette's engine is now behind the seats.
Yes and yes!
We have a grail in the flesh on the channel in this one!
I would prefer a Lange at this price point to be honest. Especially because of the case back ;)
I'd prefer a Lange between the two at any price point!
Your comment on 6:27 is accurate. It's a nice watch but it's not a 20k USD watch. PPs watches are so versatile, but are so bland and boring unless you go to the super expensive complications.
I own the 5711, and it's so versatile I can wear it with a suit, a denim jacket, or shorts. But like the very versatile gray suit, it surely gets bboorriiiiiiinggggggggg on its own. I can say the same for this Calatrava, overall nice case, movement, and dimensions; but like the 5711, remove the "Patek Philippe" from the dial and it's meh.
Pretty inflated price and I fell asleep just looking ar this thing. But it‘s a Patek I guess. Great review none the less
No problem at all with a manual wind. But, the crown on this watch is so small.... I don't think I'd enjoy winding it. Otherwise, it is gorgeous.
I think WatchArtSci said that Patek didn't make hacking movements because it damaged the movement.
😂🤣 Great Intro!!
In Harlem it's worth 50 bucks!
5119G (18K White Gold) looks much nicer. But then, I like "silver" colour better.
Patek nautilus 5712 also hasn't got hacking movements. I think patek doesn't use hacking at all.
LOVE IT
Coming from someone who’s in the market for a watch at this level - I’m just wondering how much of that 20,000 is brand value. When we put this up against the JLC ultra thin line, I feel like we’re getting a more modern movement, added complications and automatic winding with the JLC.
In gold, we’re looking at similar prices. I think I’d go for the JLC.
If I were cross shopping JLC and Calatrava I’d look at Piaget. I have a Calatrava for the rare times I need a dress watch, but for a more daily affair that understated Piaget is solid.
Hi, Bradley. When someone buys a watch of this level, I would say he/she not only looks at the watch itself but also at the brand and its heritage. In my point of view this is a very nice classic watch. Ok, I'm biased since I have one of this 😉 But, in my opinion, Patek is the "gold standard" for all watch brands. Everyone compares themselves to Patek: "...as good as PP...", "better than PP...", but always PP is the comparison pattern but others brands. Additionally, the PP cases are more elaborate than those from other brands as, for example, Lange&Sohne and others, which are always the same and sometimes boring. And last not least, in the used market, nobody beats Patek. This must make some sense... All the best.