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He just said it wasn't a public area but he'd arrest you for section 50 in a public area.
Good spotting
Plus section 50 requires HAD. And they are defined as follows:
Harassment - Means to subject someone to constant and repeated physical and/or verbal persecution.
Alarm - Means a frightened anticipation of danger.
Distress - Means to cause trouble, pain, anguish, or hardship.
I didn't see any of that from the security or police.
@@Only_Fools_and_Audits is filming an offence then? Because he could still have filmed from the public path but the officer contradicted himself. Didn't you're watch the clip. There were no signs and the threatening guard is not the land owner! The orificer quoted section 50 where he believed the auditor was causing anti social behavior and he clearly wasn't, it's also for protesters and he wasn't protesting. The guard was causing anti social behavior by threatening to throw him to the ground and should have been investigated.
@@Only_Fools_and_Audits he was in the car park with an implied entry method. Trespass is a civil matter and the police overstepped their remit. If he was there to agitate then he proved a point , if the police had done the right thing then you wouldn't say such a thing. But they didn't and you are.
@@Only_Fools_and_Audits technically police can only get involved with a civil trespass if asked to by the landowner
Colin can now go home and tell his kids that daddy confronted a man with a camera! They would be so proud of brave daddy! Inspector at the end shows exactly how they cover for each other, and why policing has sunk to it's present low!
They always cover for each other. They are like a bunch of Freemasons and will always take the corporate side if you audit a Costa Cofffe for example.
Yes indeed and we can rest assured that our hard earned tax money is being spent (stolen) well.....LOL
Lol it takes a fool to jump about with a guy that has been convicted of trying to strangle his Lady so why are you kicking around with that sack of shot
@@Only_Fools_and_Audits and with a known criminal that has been put in jail for strangling hi lady waw
News now can go and say he’s in a video with a rat div free who’s a known criminal robber of gold shop slaps his ex about threatening to rape a man’s wife I can go on so do you see how two faced this turd is if stay away from a known criminal but no this turd walks about with that sort of trash
For the camera not being returned, you should call your solicitor immediately and tell the cops know that they will getting a phone call from your solicitor.
"section 50?"... It was at that moment, Colin realised he'd fucked up
Both security and police apparently don't know the inappropriate law that they then bully the public with.
THEY NEED SACKING - HOW MANY OF US COULD PERFOM SO BADLY AND EVEN THREATEN VIOLENCE IN OUR JOBS AND STILL HAVE THEM. SINCE IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCE POLICE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO GO HANDS ON IT IS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAT THEIR PERFORMANCE IS NOT ONLY TO A CERTAIN STANDARD BUT ALSO LAWFUL! THE COURT SECURITY IS A COMPLETE TYRANT AND TRAITOR AND HIS THREATS OF VIOLENCE ARE AN OUTRAGE AND A CRIME. THE COURT IS NOT PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THESE POLICE ALSO TRYING TO INCITE VIOLENCE NEED TO BE FIRED IMMEDIATELY. THICK ILL TRAINED VIOLENT MORONS! YOU HAVE TO GO OVER IT COP UNTIL YOU GET IT RIGHT. I WOULD ARREST YOU FOR YOUR ABUSE OF THIS INNOCENT MAN. BALDY IS A COMPLETE MORON, CLUELESS, LAWLESS AND NO RIGHT TO PUBLIC MONEY. IN FACT THAT STATION IS HOT BED OF CORRUPTION AND IMO IT NEEDS TO BE CLOSED. IF THOSE ARE AN EXAMPLE OF INSPECTORS AND SERGEANTS THEN I DO NOT WANT TO BE PAYING FOR SUCH TRASH OUT OF MY HARD EARNED MONEY.
So they made a “law” in 1923 prohibiting FILMING on court grounds….don’t think so.
there was motion picture cameras then tbf
@@MrGoldenV... yes , but you would need a piano player , and everyone should have big Moustaches ....
Yeah get there was motion picture back then. Love the idea of the big moustache’s and piano players, not forgetting the monkey and the organ grinder. Sure they weren’t making laws about doing it though….in 1923 ….nah.
1925. It refers to photographs, but that is interpreted to include filming.
No still don’t get it. In 1925 pretty sure they would have been far to fascinated about the ability to film, or take a picture rather than creating laws preventing you doing it.
Cop: "If it's owned by the courts, it's private property" ... and there you have it ladies and gentlemen, Cop Logic 101 ... "If I say it, it must be the law".
Well they didn’t say that of course. But then if you have no argument you have to lie.
It is private property. The public give their money to Tesco but nobody claims it is public property.
@Tracy Best not to argue with Trolls. It just encourages them.
@Tracy "Never argue with idiots, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". - Mark Twain.
If only police applied this amount of time and effort to police the communities they serve.
What crimes 😂😂😂
Jill Dando and Princess D love this silly uneducated comment
And if morons like this didnt act like idiots
Then maybe the police could get on with proper work
And if idiots like this stopped acting like children
The cops could get on with proper work
Easy
We really can’t put up with the police people behaving like this much longer, we need to protest
Hes an auditor! Course he knows his stuff. Far better than the police do. We see it time and time again. It's embarrassing.
The inspector here didn’t do the police service many favours. 😞
Wearing an ethylene oxide-laced, oxygen-saturating, synthetic face hugger on in the rain.. my god, what dumplings we have as crown servants..
Hope they get regular boosters
Branch Covidians are a strange cult aren't they?
Honestly, I have no idea why people like Live Free. Police need complete reform and accountability - that's without question. But he isn't good for auditing movement at all. Non-stop anger problems. Especially when you can see him running after police(fair), only to get negative interaction(predictably) so what he does? Standing on pavement, he pretends to try and run into an oncoming police car passing by. After that video, I lost all my respect for him and I believe he is toxic and does this only to create drama, so he can earn money. Using scumbags to fight scumbags? You're giving corrupt police force more ammunition this way. Good riddance, he is sitting in jail.
Do any police know the law or do they just accept what they’re told by a security officer who doesn’t know the law either?
Nothing done to the security guard who assaulted you then the copper assaults you twice and you walk off as if Nothing happened...
well i think the law is that you can't film PEOPLE in the court premises, the law i read doesn't say anything about not filming anything else, it's to protect folks coming and going from court. but the private property thing, and "who owns the land" is an interesting problem, i'm only at the 8:00 mark so, lets see how it pans out...
The police know the law, don't ask for miracles.
@Tracy
well, the intelligent person knows, lacking means allowed..
any other means that you can invent laws as you want...like anarchy..
As soon as Chris starts calling people childish names he looses his arguement.
No he does not as he is not presenting an argument but standing on his rights. Why should he be polite to thick tyrants who are certainly not nice to him.
My father was a small man in terms of height but he was a war hero with the George cross and Kings Commendation for Bravery. He was caught in Tobruk just as the seige started and after a days fighting in a rat hole he had to sneak through German lines alone to get supplies of food, water and medicine where he could. The Germans knew about him and when spotted they would dive bomb him desperate to kill him. Somehow he made friends with the Bedouins and they helped him. Later when he was redirected to Italy to mop up the last Germans he was given the Key to the City by the people for what he did there. This is only part of what this 'small' man did for this country and freedom. The fact that a cop can insult someone over their stature is not only petty, childish and unacceptable imo it is abuse under the colour of law. I would have put that cop under an 'any person arrest' but my father and his generation would not have been as kind as me. I would have liked to see this cop insult my father about his height because they would have had to call an ambulence to pick this traitor off the floor. My father set off to war from his home town with 4,000 men (all volunteered and were not conscripted) as soon as the war started and came back 6 years later with 32. And this coutry ends up with corrupt, cowardly, thick cops like those at that station - it is criminal imo.
You would of arrested the police man for insulting your height? That's not a thing. What corruption did you see in the video exactly?
Great story but make it it a little shorter :) Only joking :) respect to your Dad.
Wee soldier
Tyranny must be answered or it will grow.
Respect mate
This cop was actually polite in his own way. Keep filming them.
As far as I can tell the law he is quoting doesn't exist... ( 1923 court act section 43d ) ??? !!! Maybe hes referring to The Criminal Justice Act 1925 ?
that's the only ref I can find. ok bit of a sticky point you would of thought he should of known the act as aposed to not after all I would think it's part of his job to quote the correct legislation
@@frankgardiner5002 Yes and also section 41 of the criminal justice act 1925 really refers to taking pictures of a person, being a judge of the court or a juror or a witness in or a party to any proceedings before the court, whether civil or criminal and has nothing to do with taking pictures of police cars from the court car park. The court security was just be a pedantic moron.
@@PINACI Yes, that's probably what it meant. However, I think 2c (don't quote me on this) also states photographs "Made" in a court or its precincts.
Yes, I agree in this instance he's not filming people attending the court, but technically it's right.
@@UCOOLJULES Please provide a link this this act
@@PINACI oops, that was an Irish act. My bad
Does nobody understand the difference between civil trespass and aggravated trespass?
And I can only think the security guard means Section 41 of the 1925 Criminal Justice Act which does indeed ban photography in COURT ROOMS. There's no such act as the 1926 Court Act.
You need to lose Live Free. Your Audits are exceptionally well put together and you are clearly very well informed. Then you go back into nick and Live Free is hurling obscenities and behaving like an absolute chav nobhead. He is really letting your production down massively.
Yes...I'm glad your back.. Best auditor 👍
Lol how ironic he’s kicking about with a known criminal 😂😂😂😂😂
After this video was published PC Colin was demoted to Lollipop man duty for 2 months🤣🤣🤣
UPDATE** Serious misconduct squad now investigating this video😅
Bollocks,,,that was a Promotion 👍😂🏴
After this video was published Auditor Live Free aka Chris Gallone was imprisoned for domestic violence.
No such thing as the Court Act 1923. That is Irish Legislation and not applicable in England.
I found free state law too
Wow.. you police are such heroic people and need some sort of award for your brave actions 🤣
Imagine trying to do your job in difficult circumstances solving crimes etc and ppl like these turn up clearly being deliberately provocative to get a reaction to put on RUclips. No wonder ppl don't want to be cops anymore. The guy calling the police dogs would probably glass you in a pub for looking at him the wrong way.
I am very pro auditor but I think NNY is wrong here, not necessarily morally nor ethically but ethically.
The police officer, despite being a bit of a nag, was reasonable and decent.
The security guard, who has absolutely no power whatsoever, had been wishing for this moment. It will define is life.
I think the copper was pretty decent. Not sure if he's legally allowed to remove you for trespassing as that's a civil matter though.
As long as you are not damaging anything or threatening, assaulting anyone surely it’s a civil matter.
Not on court grounds. Section 41 criminal Justice Act 1925.
@@JunctionWatcher Act has nothing to do with the Law, don't conflate the two. (clarification point all acts are fraud so in that regard unlawful so of course that is their connection to the law but in terms of acts holding any force of law they do not they have the color of law, a fraudulent hue)
At 7:02 the security guard states “you are fine to be here” and the only problem is the camera.
But pointing a camera from somewhere you can be is no different to looking. So is he saying you have to close your eyes when you are in that car park??
Once they escorted you off the open premises, you should have filmed above the car park with your drone.
They can't trespass you from the airspace and it would have shown how ridiculous they were being.
In this case you would be breaking the law.
If you aren't a lawyer it is best not to offer legal advice
@@DirectDemocrat
Dji mini can fly anywhere apart from airports and prisons.
Please watch more Auditing videos as they have done this legally hundreds of times.
The police were proved incorrect and had to pay News Now Yorkshire in a previous video.
Also l am not giving legal advice here this is just a Utube comment.
@@DirectDemocrat so very wrong Tony 😂
@@frances4007 I find it wrong news now is kicking about with a known criminal sadly you don’t seem to care about this fact
@@peterwentworth9181 I didn't see your further attempt at being wrong but I will happily correct you.
You are correct that ordinarily a DJmini at 249g can fly anywhere except for the airspaces you highlight.....none of that is in dispute.
What is in dispute, apart from your understanding of the law, is that were he to video the court and its curtilege and precincts, then he could be deemed to be in contempt of court, regardless of where he recorded the footage from, in this case the airspace over the court. The fact that he is allowed to fly there is immaterial
Contempt of court is a procedural matter and its investigation and punishments do not follow the normal investigative norms. If those two guys reported the matter to a judge in the court and he got the hump on becasue he considered that News Now Yorkshire was interfering with the efficient running of the court, he could order the police to arrest him and bring him into court, which they would be compelled to do immediately.
The judge could then lock him up, confiscate the drone and even order its destruction.....and there would be absolutely sweet FA that you as his legal counsel could do about it.
I don't know whether @ysgol3 has anything to add but my suggestion to you is to either get yourself a qualifying law degree or stop giving your ill-informed advice, because you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
P.S. And then of course there is still the provions of Criminal Justice Act 1925 S.41(2)(c) to worry about because that makes it a statutory offence to do what you told him to do and it doesn't matter where he does it from.....now run along.
Miss the days of Live Free he always had something to say peace Chris
Unless its his partner then he lets his fists do the talking
Guy is a moron and scum. He's where he should be
What happened to him?
@@ISellSigals jailed for domestic abuse
That sounds like a woman beater. Nice company you keep. He sounded very wound up. He needs 25 months in a nice quiet room to calm down a bit.
The actions and comments by the Police and the security are interesting in the context of filming within the precincts of Court buildings as they believe that those precincts end at the footpath. This is despite no precedent being set as to the extent of such precincts and other persons have been arrested and charged for filming from the footpath in front of Court buildings.
Lmao he called me small , I want to make a complaint 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Nobody audits like Live Free. Sorely missed, mate 🙏❤️
@@Only_Fools_and_Audits As an auditor
The guy is a prat, glad he's in jail where he should be
Unfortunately, Live Free and koleeberks couldn't keep their noses clean
The cop was very good and dealt with the nonsense in the car park. Who’s the muppet? Is he called Live Free? He’s a real clown; he can’t even keep hold of his phone (or was it a camera?).
Absolutely disgusting taking his camera like that imagine if these auditors tryed to take there camera.
They have created acts to cover all their BS! Section 4A and 5 being a prime example!
Whole world is a stage, that's why it is acts and not laws, the police can't enforce law because law isn't something that is forced it is inert.
Unless you have committed a crime. They have no legal right to touch you
Sadly not exactly true.
In this instance you are 100% wrong. Reasonable force can be used here. In this instance the Auditor seems to be intentionally Making content.
As for the latter part involving the other auditor, I think his behaviour is disgraceful. I don't see how you can reasonably treat others like that.
@@PaulSmith-tt7tf police can't get involved with civil trespass unless a breach of the peace or public order offence has been committed.
Does sec 33 not apply?
@@Only_Fools_and_Audits well I hear UK auditors say section 33 of the criminal justice act 1972... implied right of access. Would it not apply in this instance?
i feel like im in the tardis i have re watched all of 2022 audits and now im going further back in time
i hope in the next video its pre covid and we can all reminisce how life used to be
If there's one thing we've learnt it does NOT go well whenever live free goes to pick his property up from the police station 😆
Hilarious, can't wait for more, I thought unwanted contact was assault 😆😆😆👍👍👍
Excellent use of the lineage of “ ownership “ of public property
Hats, helmets, caps
Headwear must be worn in public, but you can remove it in vehicles and buildings if
it’s safe to do so.
Was that live free ? 😂 😂 trying to get himself set straight back to jail
@@Only_Fools_and_Audits good
I can see why the police worry about having people film outside the police stations,watch out for their cars and follow them home. It makes sense but these desk staff seem to not care that they endanger their fellow officers by this uncalled for and immature behaviour. I sympathise with the person who had his property stolen and then was bullied,abused and mistreated for no reason.
We know all of them where they live who they sleep with the thread count on their mistress' carpet ;) they are always in danger rightly so. They are at war with humanity. Humanity wins, God wins, they serve Moloch, notice the sticker in the window, pride comes before the fall, they are't secretive about their criminal nature.
8:58 that copper on the right made me laugh, what a guy. I like him
What would be really funny is that after he walked you out if the carpark, you whipped a drone out.
That was a long break buddy! Good to see you back on the job! Good audit as usual :)
Old video way his wife beating pal
All that fuss for filming ... Police acting like petulant children
So clueless Colin states if you walk back on the “private property” and film you could cause harassment, alarm or distress to a member of the public, but if you walk 20 feet on to public property and film there’s no risk of the same offence?
Surely he realises how pathetic he sounds?
Hello kettle pot calling.
@@drdave4430 That famous saying “Hello pot kettle calling” 😂
Clearly not a Dr of words.
@@gj5900 Oh the irony of what you have unknowingly written.
Do try and think it through. For your own sake if nothing else.
Wow. That made for a very memorable episode. Will watch again. Amazing work and brilliant banter. Oh dear though Colin, and Sausage, that didn’t go so well for you two. Never hurts to be polite.
Hope you are taking this on further on both who have hands on in your audit!
3:45 yes he really said there's a law from 1923 that says no recording. Wow that was some foresight
Criminal Justice Act 1925 section 41. Despite your surprise yes that’s what it says.
@@JunctionWatcher But it means no AUDIO recording and IN a court, not outise the building in a car park with a VIDEO rcorder.
@@PeterMaddison2483 Read the wording.
“a photograph, portrait or sketch shall be deemed to be a photograph, portrait or sketch taken or made in court if it is taken or made in the court-room or in the building or in the precincts of the building in which the court is held”
@@JunctionWatcher It does NOT mention VIDEO.
@@JunctionWatcher Courts were dissolved in 2008 so no court would be held there
4:00 "I'll take you down to the floor". That's an assault. Making a threat of violence is assault. The actual violence bit is battery. In any case he can only use force under common law and filming on court property is not an indictable offence, so he does not have the authority to use force. So any force used is unlawful.
7:50 The cop shows that he doesn't enforce the law without fear or favour by totally ignoring NNY's statement that he was assaulted by the court security guy.
Dereliction of duty
These cops were more than reasonable until they mentioned *section 5 public order* - the go to piece of legislation that every cop will use to get their way.
5 and 50 . They do have a fetish about the number 5.
_the police removed him_
*Police 1*
*News now Yorkshire 0*
He walked back on Police 1: NNY: 1 (If you're gonna score do it accurately)
this would have been an awesome one to tell tell the court usher, as you left 'their' premises, that you were taking a drone up !
Unless there are signs clearly stating it's private property, they have no authority. They can "say" anything is private property, and anything that is open to the public/piublic acces is classed as a public place, and legally can be filmed unless, as stated, it has signs stating private/restricted access.
Freedom to photograph and film
"Members of the public and the media do not need a permit to film or photograph in public places and police have no power to stop them filming or photographing incidents or police personnel." - Met police website
"A public space is a place that is open and accessible to the general public."
3:30 Court Act 1923 doesn't exist. And even if he meant the Criminal Justice Act 1925, section 43 has been repealed and that was about licensing for theatres. If he really meant filming on court property then it's the CJA 1925 section 41. But that only relates to filming people involved in a court case. Security are not involved in cases so can be filmed.
Happy to be corrected however I believe that the legislation refers to the precincts of the Court, not who you are filming in particular.
@@johnvienta7622 The reference to the "precincts" in S 41 (2C) of the Criminal Justice Act 1925 just clarifies where the photograph cannot be taken (or where the portrait or sketch cannot be made) of the person identified in S41 (1A) (ie, "a judge of the court or a juror or a witness in or a party to any proceedings before the court, whether civil or criminal"). The security guard got the name and year of the Act wrong and made up a section in an attempt to sound like he knew his stuff. In any event, he was was wrong to think that it prohibited any and all photography in the car park.
@@abarthman1965 , all the legal opinion I have read on the issue states that the precincts are not physically defined and that is what the authorities use to prosecute and threaten people. I have given casual advise to auditors to film for the other side of a roadway as the Court would struggle to claim that they owned the roadway.
Corruption at its finest!
He’s the dickhead pissing them off for no reason 🤣
The people of darlington must be able to sleep soundly in their beds, knowing Colin isnt out looking for burglars, or car thieves, or drug dealers, he is busy trying to copsplain how he can abuse the public order act, and section 50. Top coppers??????
We are paying for these thugs in uniform and a disgrace to the uniform and the court secruity is a disgrace to the secruity firm all in public place and public car park
Excellent video Michael, excellent
At 12:00 minutes it would have been an excellent time to deploy a drone.....
Alarm and distress is a rubbish charge .
Just simply pathetic.
If I’d known you could have popped in for a cup of tea.
Thing is your dressed in tracky bottoms.. hoodies.. and baseball caps you are kind of making yourselves a target !!!! i wouldnt trust you as far as i could throw you 🤣🤣
I hate the police attitude , and a security guard hiding his ID is wrong , he needs reporting.
However if that is the true law that you can't film on court property then unfortunately that's it , and with petty jobsworth behaving like that I'd rather you just walk off than allow them to throw you out.
What's with the silly attitude in the reception about getting the boys , I hate the police as much as anyone but he sounded a right twat.
Giving auditors a bad name , tell that auditor to wrap it up , he is embarrassing
1923 court act section 43d doesn't allow filming?...........I hate to break it to you but who was filming anything let alone court CARPARKS in 1923? I think someone is telling porkies.
It's 1925 Criminal Justice Act s.41
The audits are so much better when you haven’t got that annoying mate with you…thank you🙏
Oh sh… I spoke too soon😔
Calling a police officer a dog is dumb. I like that shouting orders like a toddler having a tantrum gets him nothing. His 50 friends with cameras threats isn't bullying? What a tool.
Criminals don't like to be filmed
That's exactly why the cunts making these videos cover there faces
Here's one of them ⬆🔼🔺⏫⤴
Ya know with all the money they steal build a fence ya criminals, oh right shhhhhh don't tell...
@@mrspanky369 I was referring to the one directly above me mate. lol
@@Tom-ol6cu Spend your free time watching c*nts do you, mate?
I worked for a farmer who owned a massive farm shop a few years ago, and one day 3 or 4 caravans pulled into the car park and set up camp basically. Now this was 100% private property, owned by the farmer, and he didn't want them there. Police couldn't and wouldn't do a single thing. So I wonder why they think they can remove this guy from public property, and still.move him if it was private. Yet police in the case of my bosses shop, they wouldn't/couldn't do a thing. Does anyone actually know the laws? Or do the pigs make them up as they go?
BIG UP the Gingerbread Man, Live Free again, great journalism N N Y exposing the corrupt tyrants, 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Yeah big up a woman beater! You scum bag
You can really see why people dislike and distrust our police forces around the country this video said it all
This numpty thinks he got a result...give the idiot a donut
I get what you are doing, I understand why you are doing it - but this was hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂
NOTHING FUNNY ABOUT TYRANNY - OVER 800,000 BRITIH SOLIERS LOST THEIR LIVE FIGHTING IT IN JUST ONE WAR IN THE 40'S!
Funny thing is he’s there with a guy that got jail for slapping his ex about shameless comes to mind 🎉
@Ronnie and I the man he’s with is a known criminal he robbed a jewellery shop batters his ex I find it ironic news now is at a police station with that scum
@Ronnie and I he just got 25 months in jail for strangling his ex
@Ronnie and I I did say the man with news now Yorkshire waw
He should be arrested for wasting police time - Northern twot.
Police are known terrorists their time is spent committing crime wasting that time would amount to preventing crime ergo wasting police time is a public good.
It’s disgusting how these people can retain a public facing job with such unprofessional behaviour and they wonder why the public hate them. And then the inspector was of no use whatsoever. Another lawsuit, hitting the forces pocket will be the only way they learn that they cannot treat the employers like this.
Court property,,, whose name is on the deeds, Mr or Mrs court? 😂
@@Only_Fools_and_Audits That's obviously crown land do you see the difference? Police stations are Civic owned, the same as libraries, town halls, in the past recognised by the red brick they were built with.
@@Only_Fools_and_Audits Whose money pays for the rent? i think you know very well the point i was making, and nothing you have said changed anything, in fact you have just proved my point.
@@Only_Fools_and_Audits What gives you the impression i am obliged to answer any of your questions you melt, who's the constabulary and where does he get the money from?? are you saying there's no such thing as a Civic building, you may have the wool pulled over your eyes but i haven't.
Only Live Free and News Now Yorkshire can make 'sausage boy' the funniest term in the world 😂😂 Im in stitches 😂
colin was actually alright man. i hate coppers but he seemed very polite and reasonable
"Shrek's doppelganger"! Awesome!
It’s a shame this is old footage from some time ago but I don’t know why new now Yorkshire has stopped making videos.
Isn't he in prison for woman beating? I would imagine that would seriously restrict his ability to make stupid videos
Can't believe the behaviour of these sausages. It's all ego driven.
The dichotomy of terror. A man filming with a camera causes chaos, where otherwise there would be peace.
Michael you score top marks for standing your ground. A trait that makes a great Auditor.
Keep up the good work NNY 👏🏼
LEGALS
1) The old goon was not quoting any relevant Act.
2) The Criminal Justice Act 1925 prohibits recording (only) INSIDE a court. In other words, he was talking rubbish.
3) The Police have no legal right to lay hands on as the Act wasn’t being breached. Love the way he said “Google it” … as anyone can. And find out he’s a fool. Worse still, the idiot Plod said “fair enough” …ie. He didn’t check the Law, he assumed the Goon was correct. So he’s a fool too.
4) There was no s5 offence. That’s ridiculous statement. As explained before, when officers jump from ASB and S5 it’s because they’re usually trying it on.
Bottom line, you were lied to by the guard, you were assaulted by the officer. Who of course wasn’t wearing the right uniform, didn’t identify on arrival and might have breached GDPR. Why were they hiding behind face masks btw!?
Summary … 3 violent clowns.
1925 CJA also prohibits filming in the precincts of the court. That includes areas outside the building and might be interpreted to include the bit of the car park where he was standing.
@@johnscott4693 41(2)(c)
@@kevinallard5859 No. Your getting confused between 1) section one and it’s aims 2) the English word “precinct” 3) and not considering section 32 of the Crime and Courts Act 2013/ Contempt of court Act (1981).
So, put simply:
1) The filming (et al) falls under the jurisdiction of s1 and applies to PEOPLE who take part in the proceedings [only]. You may film the court, it’s grounds, from in or outside the grounds… BUT if you film someone involved it’s a £50 fine … and if you publish it, it gets much worse eg. “Here is a juror image”.
2. “Precinct” means everywhere around the court, where a reasonable man would assume they’re involved. Even on a public street eg. “He’s a juror in “Axe Man Case”, walking into the court at the Old Bailey”, (image taken on the street just outside, in public).
3. section 32 of the Crime and Courts Act 2013 made certain exemptions. You should read this in conjunction with s9 1981 contempt of court Act, which is more powerful.
So, unwise to publish image of anyone beside a court, unless you are very sure they’re not involved. That’s my advice. But you can film inside the grounds. It’s about protecting people, not property…
@@johnscott4693 Thanks for making me look at it again. I think you're actually right about it needing to be a photo/film of a person.
S41 does have an absolute prohibition from taking photos in a court including ‘precinct’.
Be very, very careful taking photographs or film on any court property including ‘precinct’ (which in 1925 parlance would probably include the car park).
That means filming any one who is on trial and jurors he wasn't doing that.
@@idunnobruxx2074 it doesn’t.
@@wakeywarrior yes it is, S41 is about filming and photographs of the person on trial, witnesses and jurors being published before trial. Sorry you wrong.
@@idunnobruxx2074 OK if you say so.
"its owned by the Courts, so it's Private." So the Courts aren't Public? they are are Private Organisation independent of Public funds and Scrutiny? Is that not a description of Facism?
There’s no such law.
The CJA of 1925 says there’s a £50 fine for taking pictures of people INVOLVED in a case as they’re entering or leaving the court precinct.
That's not what it says. With drawings, it does have to be a drawing of a person and there has to be an intention to publish the drawing, but the restriction on photographs is an absolute prohibition.
"Precincts" includes areas outside the building but it's not clear to me whether it would include the car park in this case.
@@kevinallard5859 s41, (1) (a) could be read either way.
{No person shall-
(a)take or attempt to take in any court any photograph, or with a view to publication make or attempt to make in any court any portrait or sketch, of any person, being a judge of the court or a juror or a witness in or a party to any proceedings before the court, whether civil or criminal; or}
I read it as; no person shall take … in any court any photograph… of any person.
I took the commas from the end of photograph to the end of sketch, to be parentheses.
In your argument there wouldn’t be a comma after “sketch”.
@@kevinallard5859 I suspect “precinct” was left deliberately vague by the author.
That said, it’s only a £50 fine
@@MrAndrewFarrow The key thing for me isn't the comma, but the fact that after it says "or" it then says "with a view to publication". The bit about publication applies to everything that comes after it but doesn't apply to what goes before it.
@@MrAndrewFarrow I agree precincts is vague and I think it might apply to a car park in some cases but not others depending on things like how big the car park is, how far away it is from the building, whether it's also used by other organisations and whether there is a physical boundary around it. I think it is relevant that when the Act was written most courts would not have had car parks.
Having had to evict squatters many years ago before court orders were required, the presence of the police, who attended at my request, was purely to ensure that only reasonable force was used and that there was no breach of the peace. They were NOT and still are not allowed to to participate or get hands on in dealing with what is a civil matter. The police exceeded their duties in your case. As an aside I once had to evict someone who had a criminal record for violence. When the occupant answered the door the policeman in attendance ran away in fright, leaving me to it!
I used to like Live Free's videos. Where'd he go? All the best to him, where ever he is.
He is in prison
@@eilirroberts4898 Yeah... I reakoned that was probably the case. Any idea when he gets out?
@@MrChr1sBangkok I think he has 5 more months
@@eilirroberts4898 Thanks much
Why in prison
Shout out to the families stuck with a cop in the home. Scary stuff these cops are generally perverts it seems.
Terrorists if any of my family went down that path I'd have no choice but to arrest and disown them, I've arrested a PCSO and a few coppers they're nothing to do with what is lawful the opposite in fact.
6:25 The cop proves that he cherry picks the bits of the law that suit his needs and ignores the whole law. Owners can use force to remove a trespasser, but only when it necessary AND appropropriate AND reasonable. It is not just reasonable force. It has to be necessary (to protect property from damage or people from harm). And it has to be appropriate/reasonable in level according to what the trespasser is doing so reasonable force can only be used if the trespasser is being animated, violent, or threatening,
What utter bollocks. The actual law is quoted elsewhere in these comments.
@@drdave4430 Go do some proper reading of the actual law, research case law, and understand the legal process. Don't just assume someone's comments is right.
@@TheSadButMadLad Done it. That's why I was able to write what I did being absolutely sure of it's correctness.
You run along now and follow your own advice.
I guess that court guy is the new king right? since the UK govt leg site doesn't have a Courts act 1923
The person who "pays" for the propery is irrelevant. That's not the same as the person who controls the property. Just because I pay for it through my taxes doesn't mean i can dig it up or build on it. It also doesn't mean that i have any say in what goes on on the property. Otherwise i'd be able to revoke any auditors access to it if i wanted to. It's a really poor and immature argument to use.
We also pay for the property to be controlled correctly and access restricted to it.
God gave you custodianship of Earth in equal measure, you have every right to build/dig etc where you like. Don't get fooled into the those who came before us folly of its always been this way etc. You're living in a criminal system set up to protect itself.
@@adamwilson2117 - God? Ok. So you believe in fairy tales and magic. That's not a good start really.
@@bobthedemon1975Do a little research on the foundations of law bet you don't even know we have a constitution here or that it was the inspiration for the American one, your past is corrupted into his-story you're living in a world of illusions, in the age of information it becomes a choice.
Desperately seeking a reaction, empty threats and childish name calling...... onanistic power trip
AY out some effort in for this one. Top effort. Well done 👍🏻😎
“Put” 🤪
No, its NOT Anti Social and its NOT A Public Order Offence. This PLOD is clearly looking for something to threaten you with because you don't wish to comply with his 'Unlawful' demands.
As for the antics of those inside the station, what a bunch of vindictive knobs, including the waste of time Inspector. No wonder there is no respect and no wonder there are close to 2000 PLOD being investigated.
Good to hear live free again!!!welcome back mate