Good, honest review. You actually rode it for several thousands of miles instead of just a press launch. It's also good to hear about the quirks, something every single bike I've ever ridden has (no such thing as a perfect motorcycle nor perfect riders). Love your videos! Always look forward to them!
Darn good evaluation of the Pan Am. All those buttons could stand to be back lit as well. There was a flash to help the start up procedure. I never experienced a real issue because they flashed it before I took delivery. I'm getting excited for my tank bag and top box to arrive. For the time being my pan Am "Bender" is a road warrior, splitting those Bay area lanes as I travel between Humboldt Co and San Luis Obispo Co. I put up a couple rambling videos on the 46, and the 101 South of Salinas on one of my rides. The pan Am is a total sweetie.
WOW! You solved the starter issue! This issue has been lingering on the web for awhile, and nobody has understood the issue. You just saved Harley a lot of sales. So the starter issue is actually a good thing! Because if the starter didn't have an overload protection, it could shear off the starter gears, or burn out the motor. The starter is actually designed to be more reliable, but dropping out when it's overloaded. You hear of big block Chevy engines snapping starter gears or flywheel gear teeth, from the engine being so hard to turn over and the timing being too far advanced, etc. So a starter overload protection is a good idea.
The starter issue is actually a combination of it having a pretty high compression ratio (Even coming from Harley, gave me an odd look) and the engine most likely not having an automatic compression release on the camshaft. Most modern high compression motorcycles have them usually outside 4 cylinder sportbike engines. I think if this is the case then the starter does in fact seem undersized or the starter gear reduction system is not low enough to give the desired amount of torque to overcome the high compression. If it's as bad as people have talked about I could see HD making an update/recall on this as it has the possibility of leaving you stranded if enough failed attempts occur (Flooding after a tipover. Yes it's fuel injected but oil from a breather into the airbox can do this as well.)
Great video mate, cheers from Australia, and I absolutely agree, what's the point of an adventure bike if it isnt loaded for adventure? Nice to know it rides well loaded up! And yes, who knew harley had the livewire and pan-america in them? They have done a great job of modernising while keeping their heritage bikes.... well, Harleys.
Nailed it. The only thing I'll add is that having such a vast dealer network (in North America at least) is a huge bonus for an adventure bike and sets the Pan Am apart from all of the other great bikes.
I'm a KTM guy but I have to say I'm so glad Harley Davidson has produced this bike and I'm also glad to hear it's selling well. Harley is finally waking up and embracing the future!
A really good, proper long trip review. Love the fact the suspension lowers as you come to a stop, great idea for the inside leg vertically challenged people like me.
Thanks for your review. A GS-riding friend is excited by Harley's lowering mode, because he is short-legged and always rides with the Missus. Günter from Nürnberg/Germany
Great honest review. Get it on compression, starter takes two kicks, remove the fuse to reset it. Reminds me of the old British bikes, all adds to the character.
I agree with your definition of adventure riding at 07:57 100%. I like the idea of a Harley adv bike. I’d ride it primarily on-road, and would enjoy that very much. My ‘15 VStrom 1000 tops out near 100hp. That add’l 50hp would be very enjoyable indeed. Hope to test ride one soon. Do wish the words and numbers on the display were bigger; as I get older, those things matter. lol
I have a 2017 Dyna Street Bob and i'm serioulsy considering about trading it for the Pan Am. Don't get me wrong I love my Dyna but since i want to do long trips and surely on some crappy roads i think the Pan America would be perfect. I've tried one a few days ago and I was impressed. Thanks for your great review and cheers from Switzerland
Very good and entertaining video as always. Your bike reviews are the best in my view for the every day or once a week rider. Really down to earth and useful information. Thanks. Unfortunately this is not a bike for me (I do not like heavy ginormous adventure bikes). Only bike that would be interesting as an off road bike for me, would be the Yamaha T700. Back in the days I have ridden Yamaha XT250, XT600 Ténéré, Suzuki TS250 off road (more like a motocross bike). For now I'll ride my bike (2019 Fat Boy) and loving it.
I think they really hit it out of the park on this one. BMW and Triumph had decades to perfect their craft. This is HD's first shot. Saying it's in the same league as them is huge praise. The buttons do seem overwhelming, but is it really worse than digging through menus with a wheel or D-pad to get to an option buried deep? I feel like as weird as the buttons may seem at first, I appreciate having physical buttons for everything instead of just a joystick and constantly having to look down to see what menu I'm in. Cruise control stock is pretty fucking epic. It's utter BS that more bikes that are FBW don't have this feature out of the box. It's a huge savings on your hand for long rides on the hwy. That suspension drop is pretty epic. I'm short, only 5'9", and 1000cc adv bikes kinda suck for me because I'm only ever tippy-toeing them, which sucks ass on dirt when you have to put a foot down. I was going to get an F750, but now I'm kicking the idea of one of these around. I absolutely loved the 4000 miles I did on an R1200, but I had to emergency pull-over due to a blow-out and I almost lost it in the ditch because I didn't have the height to stand it back up, it's really too tall if you're a shorter guy.
I joke that I'm built like a gorilla. Big torso, long arms, and short/stumpy legs. I wear a 28 inseam in my jeans, but my arms stick out of every jacket I own. That said, I'm able to hop on the Pan American with the default seat seat to the low setting and the adaptive ride height option installed. I went ahead and ordered the reach seat just because some of the roads I drive on are at very steep and strange angles, so when I come to a stop I might be able to flat foot easily, and other times I might step "into the void" and feel like I am about to fall off a cliff! Actually pulled a muscle doing that on a ride. That said, I wouldn't be able to ride a BMW GS at all without taking my entire ass off the seat at every light.
@@shadowrider7072 Haha, damn, yeah 28" inseam is shorter than me, I'm like 34" I think (I'd have to double check). That is fucking awesome that you're able to ride it just fine on the stock seat, def. gives me hope. I didn't even know they had a low seat for it. The R1200 is pretty easy to ride because the CoG is so low, but it's exactly like you said, when you're off-road on one, and you need to come to a sudden stop, you better hope to God you have footing on the side you need because if you have a shorter inseam, it is so damn hard to get a solid footing, and really frustrating, and even then the CoG is low, when it starts to lean over because you had a larger gap than you thought under your foot, it can be REALLY hard to right that SOB. It's the worst feeling ever. Same if you're trying to back up a slight hill and there's sand on the pavement - you can't get any traction when you're tippy toeing it - makes you really appreciate that reverse starter trick the Goldwings have. I think I need to ride one of these. It's def. a fair bit more expensive than the F750, and the F750 doesn't have the same height problems that the R1200 has (it's high, but not "fuck you" high), but damn this thing brings A LOT to the table - and I'm a sucker for cruise control b/c my right wrist falls asleep on the highway. Utter bullshit that most manus don't put it on while they have FBW, it's almost free for them to do it.
@@MrSlowestD16 That cruise control is a god send. I will never own a bike without it again, but I have 2 messed up wrists. I feel you on the "going to sleep" thing. Too many years of using power tools messed up the nerves.
@@shadowrider7072 Yeah, it's really a terrific invention on bikes. I haven't done any "harm" to my wrists to the best of my knowledge but the highway seriously takes a toll on the throttle hand. I have to take it off every now and then to get the circulation back, which means throttling with the left, which is uhhh....not safe...?
Great video, great bike... I have heard most of the first year issues have been electrical related, hope they figure it out eventually, as I am interested in the reliability.... always leery of first year runs on anything....
It's 2021, Harley Davidson had to move with the times, finally and your going after BMW, you have all the tech on-board, now they should do a middleweight bike, this and the new Sportster Bronx are leading the charge.
Sat on one the other day. Seat is so tall I could barely get my leg over it. Seemed huge and ponderous. You wouldn't want to drop it. I'll wait for the mini version.
Hi! Great review,thanks! I'd like to ask, for the next reviews it would be great to have also the metric units! it could help many viewers! Bye, thanks and just go for a ride!
I’ve just ordered mine, it will get used mainly if not exclusively on road as I’m in the UK there are not the miles of fire trails etc you have in the USA. Did you ever have any issues with the bike when on the side stand and the camber was going away from you? As I’ve had this once on a test ride and even with the adaptive ride height it was difficult to get it upright as the ground was further away due to the camber? Great videos watched the all and great to get an Englishman’s point of view 😃
Great review, thanks Jamie. I notice the right and left side view of the motor is quite different. The right side of the engine looks all smooth and plasticy and the left side looks more veiny or muscular. Two different bikes or…?
Well done to Harley , glad to see they are thinking out of the Box ,This is just my opinion but its a bit fugly , its got a face only a mother could love . As a smaller rider i love the idea of the bike lowering at a stop , other brands should take note .
Didn’t think I’d like the limited buttons on the KTM 1290 SAS, but I actually love them. So much simpler when you’re used to it. Not sure why all the other manufacturers, including HD on their first attempt and the new Honda AT, keep putting so many damn buttons on the switch gear! Like the review. Not a Harley guy myself, but I’m very impressed at what HD produced. Tons of great options available these days.
All the other brands have to be working on adjustable ride height. It's really innovative and opens up the market to riders that would be intimated by tall adventure bikes.
People complain about the way it starts but not many bikes have a 13 to 1 compression ratio so they are not use to the way something with such high compression starts.
Can't help you with the front end seeing as how that's subjective (and I like it), but I can tell you about the suspension on rough paved roads. I have the special version, and it handles crappy paved roads like a champ. I tend to ride out in the country/mountain backroads of NC, and those roads are either brand new or absolute crap without a lot of in-between. There is also a stretch of highway I ride that recently had the surface removed and hasn't been re-paved proper yet, so I've blasted up and down that road at 80mph quite a few times. Bike has been great on all occasions since you can adjust the suspension in the rider mode options. I created a special mode for that rough highway with the softest suspension to eat up the bumps and the move aggressive engine mapping and throttle to keep up with traffic and overtake trucks. Works like a charm. Only thing that feels smother on those crap paved roads is my Can-Am RT touring Spyder. Beats the snot out of my various Honda cruisers and triumphs. Makes my 2500 Silverado pickup feel like I'm driving in an earth quake by comparison. Also remember this bike is designed to be ridden standing up as an option. All you need to do is slap some tank grips on the side of the bike and maybe some risers if you are over 6 feet. I've hit some really stupid things and didn't feel anything by standing.
Once again, great review. I was rooting for this motorcycle to succeed and Harley didn't disappoint. May I know how tall you are(inseam) and if you had to make any mods to the seat?
Sunds like Harley have make a nice bike. Spec look good. . Bike looks good from the side and rear but did the first year interns young son design the front of the bike. Sure it probably works well but it could be a sad look if parked next to a Multistrada.
About like any other heavy ADV bike... Bret Tkacs has some great videos on recovering a heavy ADV bike (he rides a BMW GS) from different angles and in different types of terrain. Other guys like to ride in groups since it's just much more dangerous to ride alone in the sticks and that way they always have a buddy to help pick up the bike if an "oops" happens. Others install wenches on their bike. (I'm not joking)
OBERVATIONS Heres the *_thing_* about Harleys, i.e. facts that are well known... - Harley Davison's unreliability is historic and it rates far below Japanese bikes in reliability (shameful). Oh, remember AMF Harley's = Joke. - Harley Davison is on it's last leg & is trying everything to survive (changing their entire line up, electric bikes, now the Adventure area of sales). - HD customer NO-service is famous for not caring about the buyer. - It is becoming apparent Harley Davidson as a company is dying due to their mistakes. So Harley, historically is a _failure_ & is well known to make unreliable cycles & have _poor quality control._ Hence, most people that ride Harley's are mechanics & older. For the past 4 or more years Harley Davidson's bike sales have declined. In 2020 it went down 17.4%. Sad.
Good, honest review. You actually rode it for several thousands of miles instead of just a press launch. It's also good to hear about the quirks, something every single bike I've ever ridden has (no such thing as a perfect motorcycle nor perfect riders). Love your videos! Always look forward to them!
Jamie is the only person I trust to review anything. 👍👍🤟
Darn good evaluation of the Pan Am. All those buttons could stand to be back lit as well. There was a flash to help the start up procedure. I never experienced a real issue because they flashed it before I took delivery.
I'm getting excited for my tank bag and top box to arrive. For the time being my pan Am "Bender" is a road warrior, splitting those Bay area lanes as I travel between Humboldt Co and San Luis Obispo Co. I put up a couple rambling videos on the 46, and the 101 South of Salinas on one of my rides.
The pan Am is a total sweetie.
WOW! You solved the starter issue! This issue has been lingering on the web for awhile, and nobody has understood the issue. You just saved Harley a lot of sales. So the starter issue is actually a good thing! Because if the starter didn't have an overload protection, it could shear off the starter gears, or burn out the motor. The starter is actually designed to be more reliable, but dropping out when it's overloaded. You hear of big block Chevy engines snapping starter gears or flywheel gear teeth, from the engine being so hard to turn over and the timing being too far advanced, etc. So a starter overload protection is a good idea.
Thanks. I really wanted to see your review, you’re always honest about everything on the bikes! 🙌🏼
The starter issue is actually a combination of it having a pretty high compression ratio (Even coming from Harley, gave me an odd look) and the engine most likely not having an automatic compression release on the camshaft. Most modern high compression motorcycles have them usually outside 4 cylinder sportbike engines. I think if this is the case then the starter does in fact seem undersized or the starter gear reduction system is not low enough to give the desired amount of torque to overcome the high compression.
If it's as bad as people have talked about I could see HD making an update/recall on this as it has the possibility of leaving you stranded if enough failed attempts occur (Flooding after a tipover. Yes it's fuel injected but oil from a breather into the airbox can do this as well.)
I'm excited to see HD branch out. 🇺🇲 Great review Jamie!
Great video mate, cheers from Australia, and I absolutely agree, what's the point of an adventure bike if it isnt loaded for adventure? Nice to know it rides well loaded up! And yes, who knew harley had the livewire and pan-america in them? They have done a great job of modernising while keeping their heritage bikes.... well, Harleys.
Thanks for this! I think it's going to be my next bike.
Nailed it. The only thing I'll add is that having such a vast dealer network (in North America at least) is a huge bonus for an adventure bike and sets the Pan Am apart from all of the other great bikes.
There are more Honda dealership where I live than Harley
Other bikes don't need the dealer's support that a Harley does.
Cracking review....as always Jamie. Straight and honest by some one who really knows what he's talking about. !!
I enjoy watching your videos. It’s nice to someone finally give the Harley Pan America a fair shake. Nice review
I'm a KTM guy but I have to say I'm so glad Harley Davidson has produced this bike and I'm also glad to hear it's selling well. Harley is finally waking up and embracing the future!
Thank you for a good honest review the looks are definitely growing on me 😎👌much love from the U.K. 🇬🇧 stay safe keep the faith 😎👌🙏🇬🇧🏍🇬🇧
A really good, proper long trip review. Love the fact the suspension lowers as you come to a stop, great idea for the inside leg vertically challenged people like me.
Nice review, now to enjoy mine as much as you have this one! Thanks!
Thanks for your review. A GS-riding friend is excited by Harley's lowering mode, because he is short-legged and always rides with the Missus.
Günter from Nürnberg/Germany
Great honest review. Get it on compression, starter takes two kicks, remove the fuse to reset it. Reminds me of the old British bikes, all adds to the character.
I would not be very happy after spending all that money and having to pull a fuse to get it started!!!
I agree with your definition of adventure riding at 07:57 100%. I like the idea of a Harley adv bike. I’d ride it primarily on-road, and would enjoy that very much. My ‘15 VStrom 1000 tops out near 100hp. That add’l 50hp would be very enjoyable indeed. Hope to test ride one soon. Do wish the words and numbers on the display were bigger; as I get older, those things matter. lol
I have a 2017 Dyna Street Bob and i'm serioulsy considering about trading it for the Pan Am. Don't get me wrong I love my Dyna but since i want to do long trips and surely on some crappy roads i think the Pan America would be perfect. I've tried one a few days ago and I was impressed. Thanks for your great review and cheers from Switzerland
Very good and entertaining video as always. Your bike reviews are the best in my view for the every day or once a week rider.
Really down to earth and useful information. Thanks. Unfortunately this is not a bike for me (I do not like heavy ginormous adventure bikes). Only bike that would be interesting as an off road bike for me, would be the Yamaha T700. Back in the days I have ridden Yamaha XT250, XT600 Ténéré, Suzuki TS250 off road (more like a motocross bike).
For now I'll ride my bike (2019 Fat Boy) and loving it.
Mine is on its way 🔥🔥
I was looking forward to your review on this after you took the old-school air cooled cruiser out
Great review.
Badass channel. 🔥👏
I think they really hit it out of the park on this one. BMW and Triumph had decades to perfect their craft. This is HD's first shot. Saying it's in the same league as them is huge praise.
The buttons do seem overwhelming, but is it really worse than digging through menus with a wheel or D-pad to get to an option buried deep? I feel like as weird as the buttons may seem at first, I appreciate having physical buttons for everything instead of just a joystick and constantly having to look down to see what menu I'm in. Cruise control stock is pretty fucking epic. It's utter BS that more bikes that are FBW don't have this feature out of the box. It's a huge savings on your hand for long rides on the hwy.
That suspension drop is pretty epic. I'm short, only 5'9", and 1000cc adv bikes kinda suck for me because I'm only ever tippy-toeing them, which sucks ass on dirt when you have to put a foot down. I was going to get an F750, but now I'm kicking the idea of one of these around. I absolutely loved the 4000 miles I did on an R1200, but I had to emergency pull-over due to a blow-out and I almost lost it in the ditch because I didn't have the height to stand it back up, it's really too tall if you're a shorter guy.
I joke that I'm built like a gorilla. Big torso, long arms, and short/stumpy legs. I wear a 28 inseam in my jeans, but my arms stick out of every jacket I own. That said, I'm able to hop on the Pan American with the default seat seat to the low setting and the adaptive ride height option installed.
I went ahead and ordered the reach seat just because some of the roads I drive on are at very steep and strange angles, so when I come to a stop I might be able to flat foot easily, and other times I might step "into the void" and feel like I am about to fall off a cliff! Actually pulled a muscle doing that on a ride. That said, I wouldn't be able to ride a BMW GS at all without taking my entire ass off the seat at every light.
@@shadowrider7072 Haha, damn, yeah 28" inseam is shorter than me, I'm like 34" I think (I'd have to double check). That is fucking awesome that you're able to ride it just fine on the stock seat, def. gives me hope. I didn't even know they had a low seat for it.
The R1200 is pretty easy to ride because the CoG is so low, but it's exactly like you said, when you're off-road on one, and you need to come to a sudden stop, you better hope to God you have footing on the side you need because if you have a shorter inseam, it is so damn hard to get a solid footing, and really frustrating, and even then the CoG is low, when it starts to lean over because you had a larger gap than you thought under your foot, it can be REALLY hard to right that SOB. It's the worst feeling ever. Same if you're trying to back up a slight hill and there's sand on the pavement - you can't get any traction when you're tippy toeing it - makes you really appreciate that reverse starter trick the Goldwings have.
I think I need to ride one of these. It's def. a fair bit more expensive than the F750, and the F750 doesn't have the same height problems that the R1200 has (it's high, but not "fuck you" high), but damn this thing brings A LOT to the table - and I'm a sucker for cruise control b/c my right wrist falls asleep on the highway. Utter bullshit that most manus don't put it on while they have FBW, it's almost free for them to do it.
@@MrSlowestD16 That cruise control is a god send. I will never own a bike without it again, but I have 2 messed up wrists. I feel you on the "going to sleep" thing. Too many years of using power tools messed up the nerves.
@@shadowrider7072 Yeah, it's really a terrific invention on bikes. I haven't done any "harm" to my wrists to the best of my knowledge but the highway seriously takes a toll on the throttle hand. I have to take it off every now and then to get the circulation back, which means throttling with the left, which is uhhh....not safe...?
Very very good
Great video, great bike... I have heard most of the first year issues have been electrical related, hope they figure it out eventually, as I am interested in the reliability.... always leery of first year runs on anything....
I love these bikes. Not in my future but I still enjoy seeing them reviewed and am looking forward to seeing them do well.
It's 2021, Harley Davidson had to move with the times, finally and your going after BMW, you have all the tech on-board, now they should do a middleweight bike, this and the new Sportster Bronx are leading the charge.
Sat on one the other day. Seat is so tall I could barely get my leg over it. Seemed huge and ponderous. You wouldn't want to drop it. I'll wait for the mini version.
i love my pan am my favorite bike i have ever owned
Hi! Great review,thanks! I'd like to ask, for the next reviews it would be great to have also the metric units! it could help many viewers! Bye, thanks and just go for a ride!
I’ve just ordered mine, it will get used mainly if not exclusively on road as I’m in the UK there are not the miles of fire trails etc you have in the USA.
Did you ever have any issues with the bike when on the side stand and the camber was going away from you? As I’ve had this once on a test ride and even with the adaptive ride height it was difficult to get it upright as the ground was further away due to the camber?
Great videos watched the all and great to get an Englishman’s point of view 😃
Can this great HD PA beat the epic BMW GS? The HD always goes in their distinctive ways, not copy from others.
Great review, thanks Jamie. I notice the right and left side view of the motor is quite different. The right side of the engine looks all smooth and plasticy and the left side looks more veiny or muscular. Two different bikes or…?
Well done to Harley , glad to see they are thinking out of the Box ,This is just my opinion but its a bit fugly , its got a face only a mother could love . As a smaller rider i love the idea of the bike lowering at a stop , other brands should take note .
Didn’t think I’d like the limited buttons on the KTM 1290 SAS, but I actually love them. So much simpler when you’re used to it. Not sure why all the other manufacturers, including HD on their first attempt and the new Honda AT, keep putting so many damn buttons on the switch gear!
Like the review. Not a Harley guy myself, but I’m very impressed at what HD produced. Tons of great options available these days.
All the other brands have to be working on adjustable ride height. It's really innovative and opens up the market to riders that would be intimated by tall adventure bikes.
that explanation of the starter needs to cover the internet best explanation i’ve heard cheers
Cheers 👍
Must have felt hungry after that review, haha.
This HD Pan America is always for elders riders who want some badass off-road experience 😅
People complain about the way it starts but not many bikes have a 13 to 1 compression ratio so they are not use to the way something with such high compression starts.
Why no shaft drive though? Makes much more sense
If they can fix that front end design, I'd consider one. That and curious to see how comfortable the suspensions are on rough paved roads.
Can't help you with the front end seeing as how that's subjective (and I like it), but I can tell you about the suspension on rough paved roads.
I have the special version, and it handles crappy paved roads like a champ. I tend to ride out in the country/mountain backroads of NC, and those roads are either brand new or absolute crap without a lot of in-between. There is also a stretch of highway I ride that recently had the surface removed and hasn't been re-paved proper yet, so I've blasted up and down that road at 80mph quite a few times.
Bike has been great on all occasions since you can adjust the suspension in the rider mode options. I created a special mode for that rough highway with the softest suspension to eat up the bumps and the move aggressive engine mapping and throttle to keep up with traffic and overtake trucks. Works like a charm.
Only thing that feels smother on those crap paved roads is my Can-Am RT touring Spyder. Beats the snot out of my various Honda cruisers and triumphs. Makes my 2500 Silverado pickup feel like I'm driving in an earth quake by comparison.
Also remember this bike is designed to be ridden standing up as an option. All you need to do is slap some tank grips on the side of the bike and maybe some risers if you are over 6 feet. I've hit some really stupid things and didn't feel anything by standing.
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Once again, great review. I was rooting for this motorcycle to succeed and Harley didn't disappoint.
May I know how tall you are(inseam) and if you had to make any mods to the seat?
When you copy what is alright done by others it's easy
@@scottmartin5093 A little jelly, are we now? 😄
Goes to prove that they have a competent, if not a winning product out there.
@@hrishikeshpatil6962 I have no problems with HD it is a winning product but KTM and BMW plus others are probably a lot better.
Jamie, you've never meet a motorcycle you didn't like. LOL
There are really not bad motorcycles from top brands 😁.
Sunds like Harley have make a nice bike. Spec look good. . Bike looks good from the side and rear but did the first year interns young son design the front of the bike. Sure it probably works well but it could be a sad look if parked next to a Multistrada.
Heat? Sit on an air cooled HD in summer in Florida, Pull over let that rear cylinder cool off !!
Nice bike, but as an off-roader I'm asking.. it's heavy, and if you fall, how does such a big bike get up?
About like any other heavy ADV bike... Bret Tkacs has some great videos on recovering a heavy ADV bike (he rides a BMW GS) from different angles and in different types of terrain.
Other guys like to ride in groups since it's just much more dangerous to ride alone in the sticks and that way they always have a buddy to help pick up the bike if an "oops" happens.
Others install wenches on their bike. (I'm not joking)
Thing is huge. Would be difficult to pick up by yourself.
@@browngreen933 so it takes me always to get with somebody else.. :))
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Needs 50 has 30 so yes it does have a starter problem,
A MotoGeo vid, and NO hamburger content?!?
Is that Birmingham accent?
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I can't believe I watched one of your vids without you smashing a greasy burger in your face.
Yeah no, not for me, for Twenty grand (before ad ons) there are plenty of bikes that I would go for before this one.
Yeah but....the looks......
Fookn looks awesome
Every ADV bike is top heavy compared to the BMW.
Lots of heat, I'll pass.
Every bike is an off-road bike with dirt tires... 🙄
Not if they weight a ton.
OBERVATIONS
Heres the *_thing_* about Harleys, i.e. facts that are well known...
- Harley Davison's unreliability is historic and it rates far below Japanese bikes in reliability (shameful). Oh, remember AMF Harley's = Joke.
- Harley Davison is on it's last leg & is trying everything to survive (changing their entire line up, electric bikes, now the Adventure area of sales).
- HD customer NO-service is famous for not caring about the buyer.
- It is becoming apparent Harley Davidson as a company is dying due to their mistakes.
So Harley, historically is a _failure_ & is well known to make unreliable cycles & have _poor quality control._ Hence, most people that ride Harley's are mechanics & older.
For the past 4 or more years Harley Davidson's bike sales have declined. In 2020 it went down 17.4%.
Sad.