Alright, some very valuable lessons were learned this day. Seraphon are paper if you don't balance your activations wisely. I have learned all these lessons myself. It seems like an army you want to charge in, but honestly, you want to wait and be patient on round 1 if you go first. Then stagger your charges. If your kroxigor had charged into the scythes with first activation, they would have blown up the unit, instead they got merced.
Seraphon really suffer from not being able to change activation order at all. Counter charge is a trap for them (unless it's a tar pit of saurus warriors). I have had to learn this lesson a couple times, counter charging a carnosaur in and just having it die. In this game the counter could have been ok but the lancers strike first. So both seraphon units got hit hard before either could hit back, rather than being hit in one spot and hitting back in the other. Big swing on that 3+ fight first.
I forget those end of turn formation abilities half the time. Not a fan of having all these extra abilities to remember. In this case a lot of that damage might have been mitigated by sylvaneths end of turn healing though.
I've been running a similar Sylvaneth list, with two reinforced units of Kurnoths with scythes (instead of lancers). Their survivability and damage potential, paired with anti-charge rend and 3+ strike first makes them so scary
Awesome game, as always. Its very interesting having counter charge stuff on some Sylvaneth units. Allows a little more objective control because you can be more aggressive, compared to 3rd.
@@Epicardia the great thing about it, even if it doesn't happen every time, is that you don't have to get away. The scythes also hit harder when being charged, so they just want to stand there
Were the awakened wyldwoods 3d printed and if so are you able to share where the file was obtained from? I don’t want to resort to chopping my trunks off but at times I do come close 😅
Is there a reason that resurrected units can’t move after being summoned in the hero phase using Celestial Reinforcements? From my understanding the ability doesn’t say anything about not being able to move the models in the movement phase
@@Strade8 It's not visible only if it physically can't be seen from the shooting/spellcasting etc. unit's position (this is one downside of not using the official trees - with things like Kurnoth units you aren't physically hiding them out of sight behind trees, but if Durthu or a Treelord were in the report that can be hidden behind a tree. With these stand-ins, things will always be visible). Most often sight-blocking terrain will be a large building of some kind. Modern GW rulesets in general use true line of sight and avoid rules that 'turn things invisible' as it can cause confusion and/or arguments (for instance the latest edition of Kill Team reduced the situations in which something is not visible when it can physically be seen by an opposing unit). In AoS (and 40k) 'blocks line of sight' isn't a terrain trait, but a physical trait of the model's dimensions and positioning - so a Wyldwood can block line of sight if something literally can't be seen through it, but that's not because it's a Wyldwood per se.
Great battle report ! What are the trees your using for the terrain, as they look awesome ? I thought they were from Printable Scenery but I'm just not sure.
@@SeasonofWar thank you mate, can you share what your print settings were and what scale you did them at? Your tables always looks fantastic, I'm sure there is a video or two in just going through you terrain process !
In turn 3 the Seraphon's Aggradon Lancers fought first. In Aos combat activations alternate, so it was the Sylvaneth choice of what unit to fight with next, and they go back and forth that way, choosing the order in which to activate any eligible units.
Sorry, but the most of your armies look horrorful. Having a good painted army it's an important part of the experience (also for watching it). If you don't enjoy painting and you only do speed painting because you're just focused in competitive game, you should pay someone.
Wow, it’s been forever since I’ve seen a comment this ignorant. If you don’t like how they’re painted then don’t watch. Comments like yours aren’t constructive and only serve to bring people down. You need to grow up and learn how to be a decent human being.
there are a ton of painting channels you can watch but there are very few channels putting out this quality of match play. as someone who is still collecting models I really look forward to the videos these guys put out so i can learn.
Link to your fully painted army, please. Want to make sure what a "good painted army" looks like. Also, a second link to your other 20 good painted armies would be appreciated (since that's the amount of armies Season of War probably has). Thanks in advance!
You should look at a br with his Idoneth Deepkin or Lumineth. Genuinely some of the best armies I've ever seen. The channel also had a recent channel goal to have a BoC army commission painted as you suggested, and after its first appearance on the table GW announced its end. You can see the hesitation.
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Alright, some very valuable lessons were learned this day. Seraphon are paper if you don't balance your activations wisely. I have learned all these lessons myself. It seems like an army you want to charge in, but honestly, you want to wait and be patient on round 1 if you go first. Then stagger your charges. If your kroxigor had charged into the scythes with first activation, they would have blown up the unit, instead they got merced.
Seraphon really suffer from not being able to change activation order at all. Counter charge is a trap for them (unless it's a tar pit of saurus warriors). I have had to learn this lesson a couple times, counter charging a carnosaur in and just having it die. In this game the counter could have been ok but the lancers strike first. So both seraphon units got hit hard before either could hit back, rather than being hit in one spot and hitting back in the other. Big swing on that 3+ fight first.
This has been my experience with them this edition. Our models look tough, but 4+ save and no wards mean everything is fragile.
Nils is a great guest, very enthusiastic and looks like a fun opponent. Hopefully see him again soon!
Welcome Nils, nice to see new seraphon player on a channel! Sunclaw forgot all their end of turn pile-ins and MW
I forget those end of turn formation abilities half the time. Not a fan of having all these extra abilities to remember. In this case a lot of that damage might have been mitigated by sylvaneths end of turn healing though.
Imagine building a Sylvaneth list yesterday and today jordan coming up with the list to show it here.
Also great new guest 🎉
Ridge is out there somewhere crying in Seraphon.
Thanks for the battle report, top notch as always!
Glad you enjoyed it
Already looking forward to this battlerep! Let's goo!
Great showcase of the armies and aweseome battle report!
Finally using new Seraphon sculpts. It's a pet peeve I know, but the new Seraphon are just way too cool
Great report and those lizards look incredible.
I've been running a similar Sylvaneth list, with two reinforced units of Kurnoths with scythes (instead of lancers). Their survivability and damage potential, paired with anti-charge rend and 3+ strike first makes them so scary
I had a game against Seraphon yesterday with my Sylvaneth. I got the strike first off on Durthu 3 times. It was crazy
@johnenns9842 how do you get first strike on durthu?
@@kilivanjg2813 with branchwych's ability, which is only in your opponent's combat phase
@@HardyHeath yup, very situational
Great battle report. Thanks for sharing.
Can the Gladeworm use his “Burrow Below” teleport in the same Turn, as it was summoned? Is it because the abilitiy is not keyworded as "move"?
Yes it can
I think you kept forgetting your ward saves on the krondspine.
loved both armies! Dinosaurs vs angry trees and bugs
Awesome game, as always. Its very interesting having counter charge stuff on some Sylvaneth units. Allows a little more objective control because you can be more aggressive, compared to 3rd.
@@Epicardia the great thing about it, even if it doesn't happen every time, is that you don't have to get away. The scythes also hit harder when being charged, so they just want to stand there
Merci ! Great battle report 👏🏻
Glad you liked it!
Were the awakened wyldwoods 3d printed and if so are you able to share where the file was obtained from?
I don’t want to resort to chopping my trunks off but at times I do come close 😅
not a 3D print, I literally chopped mine down :P
You didn’t use Belthanos’ Rhythm of the Chase for potentially D3 more mortals and movement shenanigans
Odd question, does anyone know what size mat they are using? It seems bigger than the one I currently use
44" x 60" standard size!
Nils is hench af and an amazing painter but someone should tell him it’s a Krondspine
Is Tzeenche the only faction we have not seen on the battlefield?
We've had them on a number of times already this edition, check out our Membership if you want to catch every game!
Is there a reason that resurrected units can’t move after being summoned in the hero phase using Celestial Reinforcements? From my understanding the ability doesn’t say anything about not being able to move the models in the movement phase
It's in the core rules, 24.0 !!
@@kameronarieta3505 basically every time you set up a unit it can not move.
A unit in the forest is visibile? If the spell says "pick a visible enemy unit" does them being in a forest make them immune to magic?
Yep
@@johnsnow5968 so the cast, at the beginning on the unit in the forest was not legal right?
unfortunately that’s not how it works. Obscuring terrain only blocks shooting attacks, it has no impact on visibility.
@@florianschaffer8120 ah.. in which case is a unit "not visible" then?
@@Strade8 It's not visible only if it physically can't be seen from the shooting/spellcasting etc. unit's position (this is one downside of not using the official trees - with things like Kurnoth units you aren't physically hiding them out of sight behind trees, but if Durthu or a Treelord were in the report that can be hidden behind a tree. With these stand-ins, things will always be visible). Most often sight-blocking terrain will be a large building of some kind.
Modern GW rulesets in general use true line of sight and avoid rules that 'turn things invisible' as it can cause confusion and/or arguments (for instance the latest edition of Kill Team reduced the situations in which something is not visible when it can physically be seen by an opposing unit). In AoS (and 40k) 'blocks line of sight' isn't a terrain trait, but a physical trait of the model's dimensions and positioning - so a Wyldwood can block line of sight if something literally can't be seen through it, but that's not because it's a Wyldwood per se.
Great battle report ! What are the trees your using for the terrain, as they look awesome ? I thought they were from Printable Scenery but I'm just not sure.
They are from Printable Scenery!
@@SeasonofWar thank you mate, can you share what your print settings were and what scale you did them at?
Your tables always looks fantastic, I'm sure there is a video or two in just going through you terrain process !
What does Nils do for his shoulder workouts? I want to get bigger traps too.
Lifting a lot of Seraphon models off the board (jk :D)
So cool😮
the sylvaneth are not painted
im new and dont even know what happened
it was lizards turn but the trees fought first all over the board ?? wtf was that
In turn 3 the Seraphon's Aggradon Lancers fought first. In Aos combat activations alternate, so it was the Sylvaneth choice of what unit to fight with next, and they go back and forth that way, choosing the order in which to activate any eligible units.
I would let Nils ruin my life.
NUT!!!
Jordan by double turn. Kinda tired of him winning every game. Sorry.
Jordan……u need to at least fold a game. It’s ok to lose every once in a while.
Sorry, but the most of your armies look horrorful. Having a good painted army it's an important part of the experience (also for watching it). If you don't enjoy painting and you only do speed painting because you're just focused in competitive game, you should pay someone.
Wow, it’s been forever since I’ve seen a comment this ignorant. If you don’t like how they’re painted then don’t watch. Comments like yours aren’t constructive and only serve to bring people down. You need to grow up and learn how to be a decent human being.
Alright Da Vinci, calm down. It's a gaming channel. The armies look fine
there are a ton of painting channels you can watch but there are very few channels putting out this quality of match play. as someone who is still collecting models I really look forward to the videos these guys put out so i can learn.
Link to your fully painted army, please. Want to make sure what a "good painted army" looks like. Also, a second link to your other 20 good painted armies would be appreciated (since that's the amount of armies Season of War probably has). Thanks in advance!
You should look at a br with his Idoneth Deepkin or Lumineth. Genuinely some of the best armies I've ever seen. The channel also had a recent channel goal to have a BoC army commission painted as you suggested, and after its first appearance on the table GW announced its end. You can see the hesitation.