Its all bling nowadays , On the YZF u fix the power delivery with an ap in your phone. Acrapovic is 1,700 dollars. One tipover on the right side and its all scratched up.
Would have loved to see the Bills RE-13 and Akrapovic Evolution in this shootout. Another neat shootout idea would be a slip on comparison for those who wanna buy something but not eat the full system price. Cant wait for my hydraulic clutch though, its always sold out.
Rocket exhaust would be another one to add to their list. They're easy on your wallet. They sound good, and they have reasonable gains in the power department...
Could've bought anything, but went with the Pro Curcuit T6 complete exhaust on my '21. I wanted durability with a U.S.F.S. approved spark arrestor. With the maps I have loaded in the ECU, and the induction mods I've made. I went up a tooth on the front and 2 on the rear when I upgraded the chain and sprockets. 3.73 ratio up to 3.64. Pulls so hard through every gear it's way more manageable, yet linear. The exhaust was probably the biggest factor in getting the completely insane amounts of power this thing is making. The stock exhaust was way to squirty. Unmanageable. Now it's got the broadest powerband of any dirtbike I've ever riden. It just pulls so damn hard in every gear, it's scary. I'd estimate top speed is gotta be near 100mph with those gears. If your not on a track worried about a few lbs. and you want a durable exhaust system. It's my belief the Pro Curcuit T6 stainless complete exhaust is the only way to go. I paid $799 for it in '21.
@@stevesmith756 did you take the spark arrestor out? Mine is a 22 with the stock header. Dude I swear it is the loudest bike I've ever ridden and I've ridden a lot of bikes. Everybody that rides with me tells me it sounds extremely menacing, especially when it's coming through the woods. When you crack a throttle it sounds a firecrackers going off for like short blips
@@RickyHardman313 Feel is totally subjective. If you had these guys ride the bike without knowing which exhaust was on it, do you think they'd be able to tell you which is which? I dont.
Pro circuit for life 🔥 the blue fmfs look pretty good tho. Feel like pro circuit performs best though. Akrapovich are pricey wouldn't mind seeing how they perform. Yoshi is always solid but again rather have a pro circuit. Dr d looks good tho too. That hgs header looks awesome too and nice smaller muffler. Titanium pro circuit for me. For Atv Motocross i like the Motoworks, Empire's, TC, & Rp Race exhaust. Side note that drd sounded good to me nice and loud baby. And raspy sounds good to me just like the 250f's all raspy and high revving sound amazing.
Great segment Mosiman. Would love too see Acrapovic thrown in there with their main blue program is actually the yzf 450 factory MXGP, but i am also suprised by FMF, given how much R&D they do with factory Yamaha and Eli´s and Coops application, one thought they would implement some of it? Thus ofc their powerbands are different than stock, but a bit more punch. But tbh, how many variables are there to make the bike meatier, exhaust is one good bolt on change. Now this entire test with two stroke aswell would be pretty cool, plenty to choose from there aswell, Mitch have some previously secret sauce with his pipes and silencer combos few knows about.
These guys probably only use stuff that's given to them. Notice alot of KTM bias? Akrapovic said "who are you?" Yeah you can buy it, but they're moto guys so they are cheap.
Keefer runs an Akrapovic on his but said FMF was great too. He chose Akrapovic because he said it smoothed out the power and didn’t need to be repacked as soon as the FMF.
Ive always Prefered pro circuit for the looks and performance but i like to cut mine down by 1/1-2in gives a sound that i prefer more and lose some weight as well as gaining looks theyre just sooo long
$1300 is crazy. I want to say I got a power bomb header and fmf power core 4 exhaust for like $500 back when I used to ride before I got hurt years ago
1) its a shame not to have akrapovic pipe on this list 2) i guess it is too easy for mxa to dyno the bike with different pipes to get the real picture of how each pipe changes the tourqe and hp so they decided to make a video with two guys telling five times “ohhh it increases hp and smoothens the powerband” (obvious shit) idea of the video: 12/10 realisation: 0/10
Did any of the pipes come with new fuel/ignition maps? Did any of the pipes benefit from a tune? Which pipes were quieter than stock? Noisier than stock? I had an FMF on a YZ250F 15 years ago and it was stupid loud and seemed to add no power.
I have a hgs system in my ktm it’s one of the cheapest you can get them from 900-1400 and it has a nice sound it makes the power smoother but also gain a ton from everywhere it’s better than fmf or pc, yoshi or Akra I don’t know cause I never ran them
Exhaust isn't normally all about the HP gains, but how it manipulates the power curve. The problem is the vast majority of people believe it's about the power gains.
FMF has the worst customer service.Bought a new pipe for my old 2005 KX125 and the fit was terrible, bolt holes way off.Called after no response from e-mail to ask what I should do and they pretty much said tuff luck. Zero help .Pro Circuit and Yoshi for me
@@AlexStJohn-mw1kz it’s cringy cause race bikes have been loud for as long as they have been alive. So why are we all the sudden complaining about it? Throw ear plugs in like you said. Or they make a electric bike that cost $15,000 for people who don’t like the sound of freedom 🙂
@@curtsawchik1480”because they always were loud” doesn’t mean it’s a good thing right? Old Lamborghini’s used to be loud, hard to shift and terrible to drive on normal roads, the modern ones aren’t any of those things anymore. It’s called evolution;)
Most people have an exhaust because they love their bike and it looks trick. I have an exhaust on my bike I couldn't care about the power but it looks so good what's wrong with that
Engine mounts can change frame flex characteristics and how bikes track on the ground. However, not all bikes or riders benefit from aftermarket mounts. Some bikes benefit massively from them like the KTM, and the 2023-2024 Yamaha. Even notice riders who are more aware of their bikes feeling and suspension can feel the difference. Will it make you faster? Depends if it gives you more confidence. Or not. But before mounts always make sure your suspension is set up and well maintained.
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Thank u! For $1300 I think I'll also stick with the stock pipe.
stainless steel pipe would cost half that or less with the same performance of the Ti/carbon
@Sleepy.Time. a ss system is still over $1000. A slip on is almost $600. The juice ain't worth the squeeze.
@@yz-pc9xi i agree that is to much
Its all bling nowadays , On the YZF u fix the power delivery with an ap in your phone. Acrapovic is 1,700 dollars. One tipover on the right side and its all scratched up.
Just for weight reduction witch is much needed.
Thanks for taking the time to do this exhaust shootout, feels like it's been a very long time since I've seen an exhaust shootout on any bike!
Awesome comparison! just too bad the Akrapovic exhaust wasn't there 😁
Agreed, but for what it cost most of us wouldn't be able to afford it anyway. Better to just get an ECU and keep the stock exhaust.
i love my akrapovic over the stock
i absolutely love my Akrop
@@fox13z400 ecu cost nearly as much as the Akrapovic lol
Would have loved to see the Bills RE-13 and Akrapovic Evolution in this shootout. Another neat shootout idea would be a slip on comparison for those who wanna buy something but not eat the full system price. Cant wait for my hydraulic clutch though, its always sold out.
Rocket exhaust would be another one to add to their list. They're easy on your wallet. They sound good, and they have reasonable gains in the power department...
If I’m buying one it’s a Bill’s Pipe.
@holeshot48r1 if Im not mistaken I dont think Rocket makes a pipe for this year YZ
Could've bought anything, but went with the Pro Curcuit T6 complete exhaust on my '21. I wanted durability with a U.S.F.S. approved spark arrestor. With the maps I have loaded in the ECU, and the induction mods I've made. I went up a tooth on the front and 2 on the rear when I upgraded the chain and sprockets. 3.73 ratio up to 3.64. Pulls so hard through every gear it's way more manageable, yet linear.
The exhaust was probably the biggest factor in getting the completely insane amounts of power this thing is making. The stock exhaust was way to squirty. Unmanageable. Now it's got the broadest powerband of any dirtbike I've ever riden. It just pulls so damn hard in every gear, it's scary. I'd estimate top speed is gotta be near 100mph with those gears.
If your not on a track worried about a few lbs. and you want a durable exhaust system. It's my belief the Pro Curcuit T6 stainless complete exhaust is the only way to go. I paid $799 for it in '21.
Love my stocker. Fastaway end cap helps it sound spicy
I love how light the Ti FMF is but you can’t buff out scratches on the blued muffler
Sure can’t. Mine looks terrible from laying it over on the exhaust side a few times
I absolutely love how loud my FMF is on my SXF 450, but man if you just crash one time that pipe looks like it's old, it scratches so easily
@@JoshStreetDesign strange on my SXF450 my FMF is almost as quiet as the stock muffler which is ok just don’t scratch it
@@stevesmith756 did you take the spark arrestor out? Mine is a 22 with the stock header. Dude I swear it is the loudest bike I've ever ridden and I've ridden a lot of bikes. Everybody that rides with me tells me it sounds extremely menacing, especially when it's coming through the woods. When you crack a throttle it sounds a firecrackers going off for like short blips
I wonder how bills would have stacked up.. good work I love pipe shoot outs.
Why didn’t you do any dyno testing?
Numbers on a chart don’t mean anything. Feel is the best deciding factor
@@RickyHardman313 if numbers on a chart don’t mean anything, then why do they have charts with numbers on them?
@@RickyHardman313 Feel is totally subjective. If you had these guys ride the bike without knowing which exhaust was on it, do you think they'd be able to tell you which is which? I dont.
@@joeybishop7604 LOL, took the words right out of my mouth haha.
@@OtisFlint Agreed
I have a hgs system and hands down the best pipe for the money it makes power smooth but you also gain power everywhere
The YZ comes with 'good' suspension? I'd give it a bit more credit than that tbh.
I used to be a diehard Pro-Circuit guy, but now it's FMF.
lap times?
I miss White Bros exhaust lol
On any bike l love PC (for 2Ts), but for strokers YOSHIMURA all the way…! 🤙🏻
The Best Times in my last 50 years included FMF. Don Emler brings more joy to families than Santa Clause
Never had an mx bike, don't plan to get one any time soon, but I'm subscribed and love your content!
Great test. Considering this bike and would prob go with a Vortex from XPR or Twisted. If I couldn’t use some of the great GYT maps that are out there
Pro circuit for life 🔥 the blue fmfs look pretty good tho. Feel like pro circuit performs best though. Akrapovich are pricey wouldn't mind seeing how they perform. Yoshi is always solid but again rather have a pro circuit. Dr d looks good tho too. That hgs header looks awesome too and nice smaller muffler. Titanium pro circuit for me. For Atv Motocross i like the Motoworks, Empire's, TC, & Rp Race exhaust.
Side note that drd sounded good to me nice and loud baby. And raspy sounds good to me just like the 250f's all raspy and high revving sound amazing.
Great segment Mosiman. Would love too see Acrapovic thrown in there with their main blue program is actually the yzf 450 factory MXGP, but i am also suprised by FMF, given how much R&D they do with factory Yamaha and Eli´s and Coops application, one thought they would implement some of it? Thus ofc their powerbands are different than stock, but a bit more punch.
But tbh, how many variables are there to make the bike meatier, exhaust is one good bolt on change.
Now this entire test with two stroke aswell would be pretty cool, plenty to choose from there aswell, Mitch have some previously secret sauce with his pipes and silencer combos few knows about.
it is criminal akropovic isn't on here
Test without Akrapovic ?
Right? What’s even the point?
These guys probably only use stuff that's given to them. Notice alot of KTM bias? Akrapovic said "who are you?" Yeah you can buy it, but they're moto guys so they are cheap.
Keefer runs an Akrapovic on his but said FMF was great too. He chose Akrapovic because he said it smoothed out the power and didn’t need to be repacked as soon as the FMF.
Should’ve tried out the rp race exhaust. Extremely nice exhaust manufacture from Canada. Hbi Kawi uses them and they make great power gains
now you need to do a pipe shootout on the Honda crf250r. how long has it been since the Honda got some love?
Josh was there running the show basically telling the poor guy what to say you didnt ride this year why are you even there 😂
So which one would make the most power on a Stark Varg? Asking for a friend.
Fmf
PC all day long!! 🤘🤘
“Hey vet riders, disregard this entire video, just buy a hydraulic clutch” 😂😂 I really enjoyed the content, nice information video
Please do this for all the bikes
Ive always Prefered pro circuit for the looks and performance but i like to cut mine down by 1/1-2in gives a sound that i prefer more and lose some weight as well as gaining looks theyre just sooo long
can you do this with the kx450
Jeez that hit was so hard Josh forgot basic English 😂😂😂😂. Smoothened 😂😂😂😂😂. Dude you’re a journalist. 😅
I'm with you, but the moto audience doesn't know or care. It's like nails on a chalkboard.
@@guest6423 yea it’s bad. For reference im a moto guy. I care.
Hi guys, I have a 24' WR450F and bought a full pro circuit system and can tell you I Instantly regretted it and the standard one is better.
I think i will go with the acropovic system
$1300 is crazy. I want to say I got a power bomb header and fmf power core 4 exhaust for like $500 back when I used to ride before I got hurt years ago
You NEED to try the RP Race pipe . !!!!
Which one sounds louder?
Were they all run with a stick tune?
You should do this exhaust shootout on honda suzuki and kawasaki.
1) its a shame not to have akrapovic pipe on this list
2) i guess it is too easy for mxa to dyno the bike with different pipes to get the real picture of how each pipe changes the tourqe and hp so they decided to make a video with two guys telling five times “ohhh it increases hp and smoothens the powerband” (obvious shit)
idea of the video: 12/10
realisation: 0/10
It would be Nice to do a shootout like this on an old bike like a Suzuki RM 250.
Anyone notice that the pro circuit was the only one with the spark arrestor removed watch the beginning you’ll see it’s not in there
what is better to drive ktm sxf 450 2024 or Yamaha yz450f 2024?
Ahhh, he said at the beginning of the video the yz450 has won there 450 shootout the last two year,, so I’d say it would be the Yamaha,,,
waiting for 250f's video
What about rocket exhaust????
If its not done on the dyo its not a good test 🤷 its the one way to see how it is
Which one is quieter fmf vs pc?
I thought FMF pipes were to loud for sound testing. Can someone tell me how they fix that if you still want to keep that exhaust system?
Dr D still around?
FMF !
What about Bill's Pipe?
Did any of the pipes come with new fuel/ignition maps? Did any of the pipes benefit from a tune?
Which pipes were quieter than stock? Noisier than stock?
I had an FMF on a YZ250F 15 years ago and it was stupid loud and seemed to add no power.
I have a hgs system in my ktm it’s one of the cheapest you can get them from 900-1400 and it has a nice sound it makes the power smoother but also gain a ton from everywhere it’s better than fmf or pc, yoshi or Akra I don’t know cause I never ran them
Exhaust is the biggest waste of money. 1200-1500 for max 3/4 hp
Exhaust isn't normally all about the HP gains, but how it manipulates the power curve. The problem is the vast majority of people believe it's about the power gains.
HGS WIN
FMF has the worst customer service.Bought a new pipe for my old 2005 KX125 and the fit was terrible, bolt holes way off.Called after no response from e-mail to ask what I should do and they pretty much said tuff luck. Zero help .Pro Circuit and Yoshi for me
Do more of these with different bikes
Akrapovic?
This one goes out to the unnamed tester
(Fout!)
I love a good old: i felt this i felt that 😅 my butt dyno feel that: …
Dudes complaining about the exhaust being to loud is just cringy
Untill you cant enter the track because you’re over noise limits… welcome to europe
@@GerbenWelmer don’t got that problem In the US. Only the pros need to meet a sound limit
What’s cringy about that? Idk anyone that wants a bike screaming in their ear, and noise directly fatigues you, hence why so many pros wear ear plugs.
@@AlexStJohn-mw1kz it’s cringy cause race bikes have been loud for as long as they have been alive. So why are we all the sudden complaining about it? Throw ear plugs in like you said. Or they make a electric bike that cost $15,000 for people who don’t like the sound of freedom 🙂
@@curtsawchik1480”because they always were loud” doesn’t mean it’s a good thing right? Old Lamborghini’s used to be loud, hard to shift and terrible to drive on normal roads, the modern ones aren’t any of those things anymore. It’s called evolution;)
Money to burn they say...
Cutting 3 or 4 inches off any of em makes a nice sound difference. None of the bikes neeeeeed more power.
damn 1300? for something that cost 50$ to make.
Yamahas need an intake muffler.
Do it with a KTM
Stock is best, I love seeing c- riders with bald tires and a $1400 Exhaust
They probably still pass you
I love being a C rider with bald tires and a shiny exhaust
exactly. Exhausts and triple clamps are probably the most overrated parts on an mx bike ever and definetlely not needed for slow ass c riders.
Most people have an exhaust because they love their bike and it looks trick. I have an exhaust on my bike I couldn't care about the power but it looks so good what's wrong with that
@@OGLD im paralyzed in a wheelchair
Fmf only
Need dyno testing!! Feel is deceiving
Of course, a hydraulic clutch is going to feel better. So you can have a better exhaust and hotter tune. Dude really needs to work on his enunciation.
Can someone please explain to me how the fuck a engine Mount increases the riding?
the more you spend, the better everything works. if they paid me, I would tell you how awesome you would be
Yeah😂😂
Engine mounts can change frame flex characteristics and how bikes track on the ground. However, not all bikes or riders benefit from aftermarket mounts. Some bikes benefit massively from them like the KTM, and the 2023-2024 Yamaha. Even notice riders who are more aware of their bikes feeling and suspension can feel the difference. Will it make you faster? Depends if it gives you more confidence. Or not. But before mounts always make sure your suspension is set up and well maintained.
all sound the same 😂
1000 + $ for sound......better put your money on tyres , oil and filters
lmao brutal, they all sound lame and the same. 2 strokes are king lol good lord