Saymyname has been know under that nickname at least from 2015. Earlier he played as vns_yellow, but for example Bact was Bacgioifro and ACCM played as vietnam_human.
In the El Dorado game, I'm surprised saymyname didn't make a couple of chukonu to fend off the ram push. They shred rams, and even a couple behind the castle would be a huge impact. He was making crossbows so he even had the eco & upgrades for them already.
Great playing Saymyname but ACCM definitely deserved that win. Especially with the tips to Bact this guy is going to be a giantslayer in the tournament.
I think there should be some changes to the random Seeds of El Dorado !! Once the TC was barely touching the Gold/Stone Middlesection, Once the TC is touching the Water, its kinda Random and so the Map Generation CAN defenitly cause one player to loose... and I know thats AoE2 standard, and the reason why we play more then one game, but with up to 6 different maps, one player can become unlucky on his Home map, and this will make him loose critical games
I've got a question for any of you good players : I don't understand why even pro players don't always totally wall in their base. I mean half of the games I see (that you post T90 which means they are between pro players) are lost because of raid. The thing is, I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure walling is something easy to do in this game and it would make them way more secure. Thanks for the replies :)
I wouldnt say I'm that good. But from my experience properly walling in your base is actually quite difficult if you are trying to micro units at the same time. Mostly I think its once you get to castle age, houses and palisades are not enough to keep units out and the stone is usually better spent on castles so keeping your base sealed at that point is mute. As well, I think people fall into the brain trap of assuming your own raids will distract them from raiding you. Cheers
@@icecoldchilipreppers Yeah I agree with you that it adds a difficulty in terms of micro and it probably is hard to overcome, but I'm still not totally convinced when it comes to pros. I agry with you that in imp it's complicated, I strill thought that in castle age it's easier to defent than attack. And I'm assuming you have the same army as the opponent and it's just a question of position so I assume you don't have the time to destroy a house to go in. I didn't think thought that spending some stone on walls is that expansive but I'm not at the point where I calculate everything haha I agry both can raid, but I still think that raiding while destroying a house or without is completely different. Thanks for the answer !
You can ram down a stonewall down in about 15 Seconds or even faster, which makes the rest of your wall obsolete...walls dont have much line of sight so its just wasted stone and wasted makro
Is there usually water around the edge on El Dorado? I've definitely seen older games that didn't have it, and that had sand around the TC instead of that marsh terrain. Just curious about the change.
The AOE2 community losing its shit over a toggleable feature available to one unit per player per game, which will almost never be used above beginner levels of play, is something to behold.
Jordan Quiles I don't know if you saw one of SOTL's latest videos where he talks about auto scouting. In that video there's a meme that shows how, gradually, the devs may make the AI play for you. Obviously that's exaggerated but what they may do is turn the game into a Dota with multiple units (in the sense that there's no macro and just pure fighting micro. The fact that new players are more likely to use it is the major problem as thei're supposed to learn, to improve. We had enough of new players using only Huns so they don't need houses and then getting housed every single game when they tried to switch. But in reality no one's losing their shit, pretty much no one says anything about it beyond the fact it's useless (in avg to pro games) and not needed at all
as someone who does not play aoe2 a lot, I would like to ask if it would not be more beneficial to try and dodge shots with the units in the front line during archers battles like the ones in the last match? what I tend to do in another RTS is that I run evasive manoeuvres with the units in the front line while firing with the ones in the back so is there something that makes this less viable in aoe2?
in castle age with the ballistics upgrade it is nearly impossible to dodge archer shots. But you could use a ram (high pierce armor) in front to soak the archer fire.
Brigman Rivers Seriously man. Either disable it altogether or operate on an approval system that filters away all the spam and hilarious memes. I think viewer commentary can be a good thing thing if it’s moderated properly as it is in most sports.
Yeah that chat got me annoyed, usually twitch chat is "spammy" but this was something else. Two hours of nonstop retardation. In the end I wanted ACCM to win because I don't wanna see this dead meme ever again. Honestly I hope T90 will enable subscriber only chat and moderate it because this level of cancer makes everyone involved look bad. Memes can be funny but this was just spam. Especially sad considering how good the games themselves are but all people can seem to comment is "hurr Tristan, hurr Dave, hurr who is yellow". If you're the kinda person who spams this please off yourself :)
I covered that part of my screen so I wouldn't be distracted by the idiotic chat. Isn't it possible for mods to filter certain words? Whatever... twitch will be twitch.
Can you remove the twitch chat from your you tube overlay? For the most part, there is nothing of note in the stream and it’s hugely distracting. Feel like that screen space could be used for information, not mom memes.....
Water is OP. Period. Ok, you want your ships to be able to attack 15 miles inland? then let my sword swing attack 15 miles out into water. It is one of the reasons I don't totally endorse AOE. Same thing with StarCraft - too many inconsistencies - why can't the most advanced civ heal themselves in any way? Dumb.
@@genericyoutubeaccount579 Ummm, referring to StarCraft, not AOE in that statement. Protoss (most advanced civ) can't heal their own units, and they don't have monks in case you weren't aware. Want me to break down some of the dumb stuff in AOE? Ok. Arrows DON'T break stone walls. SWORDS don't break stone walls. Archers aren't going to break a siege weapon, unless they, maybe, are using some form of fire attack. Look at history, most sieges (even Stalingrad) were won or lost based on starving out or causing disease in the besieged fortification - not by breaking down the walls. Units would be in formation, protecting critical units. The siege would NEVER be in front of the attacking forces, unless those forces have been defeated. Why can ships shoot an inconceivable distance into shore? Why can monks convert military units from a distance? Really? Some priest standing on a hilltop 2 miles away preaching is going to make my best military units change sides? Is that enough examples?
@@bdoeden64 Hitting a house with a sword causes it to catch fire. Then hitting it with a hammer somehow puts the fire out. 10 Elephants fit in a boat but 11 archers don't. Villagers can't walk through a simple forest. You are somehow about to repopulate after only having 1 villager. Game doesn't know how sex works. Sheep are somehow about to scout the map and relay that information back to the rest of the town. How are Sheep about to communicate? I could go on and on and on. Game is made to be fun not realistic.
@@genericyoutubeaccount579 I think you are misunderstanding where this all started. I was criticizing the fact that water is OP in AOE (I and II). Your reply redirected it to a battle about the game itself, and ignored the fact that I was talking about StarCraft II. I LOVE watching AOE II matches, and TOTALLY understand the game is made to be fun, and I love watching it (as stated). My criticism is that water (OP) makes it not fun to me. So I apologize if you don't agree, but this conversation is going in circles since I, obviously, was not clear in my original statement. Have a great day, no harm intended, I am sorry I offended you.
Dont wanto be negativ And im really happy with youre videos! But i think when you have a co cast, you are losing focus on the game. It really irritates me you missed SO much this game! Again, no offence you are doing you’re best. Just my 2 cents!
This series was a mess, and not really in a good way. So many noob moves from saymyname. Can only guess the tournament pressure got to him. Anyway, hey T90 remember that time Dave made 3 archery ranges on the neutral island by mistake? Good times, good memes.
Man, i get that you are excited, but lately it's becoming impossible to watch you without being afraid of waking up the entire neighborhood, can you please tone down your screams a bit?
I get people like Dave casting.. I am not one of them. I just feel like it weakens T90's casting, he starts casting for Dave and not for us. Ima give this 3 hour video a skip to the end. Bummer.
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2:02:47 Saymyname sacrificed his villager to the boar and his scout to the TC to compensate for ACCM's lack of berries, what a sport
Oh. As soon as i heared Dave's voice. Im just sooo happy
*HEARED*
Oh yeah. Heard
I blame this on Tristan
@@makotoshirogane do you mean S A Y M Y N A M E
Yayyyy! Dave is here!
Saymyname has been know under that nickname at least from 2015. Earlier he played as vns_yellow, but for example Bact was Bacgioifro and ACCM played as vietnam_human.
the video said 0:15 clicked on it and its over 2 hrs. yesss
3rd game is funny and crazy at the same time
I love the vills on the saymynames treb at the end of the second game haha instant gg after that treb fell to his vills
1:25:35 They're looking for Donkey Fish
'he cant decide if he wants donkey or fish' funniest line and ive watched 200+ hours of T90 1:25:50
In the El Dorado game, I'm surprised saymyname didn't make a couple of chukonu to fend off the ram push. They shred rams, and even a couple behind the castle would be a huge impact. He was making crossbows so he even had the eco & upgrades for them already.
T90: saymyname
Chat: Tristan
T90: Yellow
Chat: whos yellow
I love this
Great playing Saymyname but ACCM definitely deserved that win. Especially with the tips to Bact this guy is going to be a giantslayer in the tournament.
I just feel bad for whoever loses but also feel good for the winner :d
That's the beauty of aoe =')
Wow, that was an intense series. Really really good! And great casting!
Awesome match!
Was a beautiful match. Im hyped for hc3. Did mbl got his pizza
Slowmotion behind victory screen would look cooler than plain pause
That was the yellowest red I've ever seen!
dave fr should help cast every game
I think there should be some changes to the random Seeds of El Dorado !! Once the TC was barely touching the Gold/Stone Middlesection, Once the TC is touching the Water, its kinda Random and so the Map Generation CAN defenitly cause one player to loose... and I know thats AoE2 standard, and the reason why we play more then one game, but with up to 6 different maps, one player can become unlucky on his Home map, and this will make him loose critical games
using Goth patch would be .... controversial
Civ bans are a thing
I've got a question for any of you good players : I don't understand why even pro players don't always totally wall in their base. I mean half of the games I see (that you post T90 which means they are between pro players) are lost because of raid. The thing is, I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure walling is something easy to do in this game and it would make them way more secure.
Thanks for the replies :)
I wouldnt say I'm that good. But from my experience properly walling in your base is actually quite difficult if you are trying to micro units at the same time.
Mostly I think its once you get to castle age, houses and palisades are not enough to keep units out and the stone is usually better spent on castles so keeping your base sealed at that point is mute.
As well, I think people fall into the brain trap of assuming your own raids will distract them from raiding you.
Cheers
@@icecoldchilipreppers Yeah I agree with you that it adds a difficulty in terms of micro and it probably is hard to overcome, but I'm still not totally convinced when it comes to pros.
I agry with you that in imp it's complicated, I strill thought that in castle age it's easier to defent than attack. And I'm assuming you have the same army as the opponent and it's just a question of position so I assume you don't have the time to destroy a house to go in. I didn't think thought that spending some stone on walls is that expansive but I'm not at the point where I calculate everything haha
I agry both can raid, but I still think that raiding while destroying a house or without is completely different.
Thanks for the answer !
You can ram down a stonewall down in about 15 Seconds or even faster, which makes the rest of your wall obsolete...walls dont have much line of sight so its just wasted stone and wasted makro
Dave sounds like viper with no accent
Is there usually water around the edge on El Dorado? I've definitely seen older games that didn't have it, and that had sand around the TC instead of that marsh terrain. Just curious about the change.
I believe it was a change for HC3 to provide more options
you know what we don't have enough of? auto scouting memes.
15:35 😂 it will be soon.
Here's a bit of Dave and T90 mentioning auto-scouting.
The AOE2 community losing its shit over a toggleable feature available to one unit per player per game, which will almost never be used above beginner levels of play, is something to behold.
Jordan Quiles I don't know if you saw one of SOTL's latest videos where he talks about auto scouting. In that video there's a meme that shows how, gradually, the devs may make the AI play for you. Obviously that's exaggerated but what they may do is turn the game into a Dota with multiple units (in the sense that there's no macro and just pure fighting micro. The fact that new players are more likely to use it is the major problem as thei're supposed to learn, to improve. We had enough of new players using only Huns so they don't need houses and then getting housed every single game when they tried to switch.
But in reality no one's losing their shit, pretty much no one says anything about it beyond the fact it's useless (in avg to pro games) and not needed at all
as someone who does not play aoe2 a lot, I would like to ask if it would not be more beneficial to try and dodge shots with the units in the front line during archers battles like the ones in the last match?
what I tend to do in another RTS is that I run evasive manoeuvres with the units in the front line while firing with the ones in the back so is there something that makes this less viable in aoe2?
in castle age with the ballistics upgrade it is nearly impossible to dodge archer shots. But you could use a ram (high pierce armor) in front to soak the archer fire.
saymyname is the new "XBoxSignout".
Best series in the qualifiers
The connection fucked up again..even I'm a big fan of Hera but I'm still very sad bout Hoang and any vietnamese player in this HC
Dave we remember
tristan
Right on time for my lunch break !
Game 3 was so awful to watch, i would just resign, that kind of game just kills me off
Did coomans got their look changed?
Bodies need to last longer
hey, where can i get this map for DE version?
Please put co-casters name in title or discription please please please please
His name is Dave.
Hesitation is Defeat!
That saymyname joke in the chat got annoying really fast. Couldn’t even finish watching the first game.
I really wish Twitch chat was disabled and not responded to during serious games. Save that shit for a meme video
Brigman Rivers Seriously man. Either disable it altogether or operate on an approval system that filters away all the spam and hilarious memes. I think viewer commentary can be a good thing thing if it’s moderated properly as it is in most sports.
Yeah that chat got me annoyed, usually twitch chat is "spammy" but this was something else. Two hours of nonstop retardation. In the end I wanted ACCM to win because I don't wanna see this dead meme ever again.
Honestly I hope T90 will enable subscriber only chat and moderate it because this level of cancer makes everyone involved look bad. Memes can be funny but this was just spam. Especially sad considering how good the games themselves are but all people can seem to comment is "hurr Tristan, hurr Dave, hurr who is yellow".
If you're the kinda person who spams this please off yourself :)
I covered that part of my screen so I wouldn't be distracted by the idiotic chat. Isn't it possible for mods to filter certain words? Whatever... twitch will be twitch.
why is the chat even important, watch the game
Awesome!
That was the most annoying chat I have ever seen.
Waiting for a Fatslob video. It is been such a long time.
The camels cant'le
The low elo legends of the deciders
WooWooWoo
Can you remove the twitch chat from your you tube overlay? For the most part, there is nothing of note in the stream and it’s hugely distracting. Feel like that screen space could be used for information, not mom memes.....
Got this video to 666 likes!
wHy iS hE nOt WaLlInG HiM In?
Game 3 is the most potato thing EVER!
booming cooming
woot
T90 Thic
Mirrors are so boring to watch imo
T90 blind...colorblind.
3hrs of brain-damaged twitch chat...
Water is OP. Period. Ok, you want your ships to be able to attack 15 miles inland? then let my sword swing attack 15 miles out into water. It is one of the reasons I don't totally endorse AOE. Same thing with StarCraft - too many inconsistencies - why can't the most advanced civ heal themselves in any way? Dumb.
Monks auto heal all units except siege. Villagers have to repair siege.
@@genericyoutubeaccount579 Ummm, referring to StarCraft, not AOE in that statement. Protoss (most advanced civ) can't heal their own units, and they don't have monks in case you weren't aware. Want me to break down some of the dumb stuff in AOE? Ok. Arrows DON'T break stone walls. SWORDS don't break stone walls. Archers aren't going to break a siege weapon, unless they, maybe, are using some form of fire attack. Look at history, most sieges (even Stalingrad) were won or lost based on starving out or causing disease in the besieged fortification - not by breaking down the walls. Units would be in formation, protecting critical units. The siege would NEVER be in front of the attacking forces, unless those forces have been defeated. Why can ships shoot an inconceivable distance into shore? Why can monks convert military units from a distance? Really? Some priest standing on a hilltop 2 miles away preaching is going to make my best military units change sides? Is that enough examples?
@@bdoeden64 Hitting a house with a sword causes it to catch fire. Then hitting it with a hammer somehow puts the fire out. 10 Elephants fit in a boat but 11 archers don't. Villagers can't walk through a simple forest. You are somehow about to repopulate after only having 1 villager. Game doesn't know how sex works. Sheep are somehow about to scout the map and relay that information back to the rest of the town. How are Sheep about to communicate?
I could go on and on and on. Game is made to be fun not realistic.
@@genericyoutubeaccount579 I think you are misunderstanding where this all started. I was criticizing the fact that water is OP in AOE (I and II). Your reply redirected it to a battle about the game itself, and ignored the fact that I was talking about StarCraft II. I LOVE watching AOE II matches, and TOTALLY understand the game is made to be fun, and I love watching it (as stated). My criticism is that water (OP) makes it not fun to me. So I apologize if you don't agree, but this conversation is going in circles since I, obviously, was not clear in my original statement. Have a great day, no harm intended, I am sorry I offended you.
@@bdoeden64 Thanks man. hahahahaha
Why do all the AoE2 casters mispronounce Malians and Mayans? For some reason that really bothers me.
Just my 2 cents - I hate it when you co cast. Love the content long time lurker 😆
When he casts with Dave it goes from "professional sounding sport" to "two mates playing a game and one doing a bunch of explaining to him."
Me too but i also hate when i can see shits going on that t90 is missing, but love when the co caster mentions it so i dont miss it
Dont wanto be negativ And im really happy with youre videos! But i think when you have a co cast, you are losing focus on the game. It really irritates me you missed SO much this game! Again, no offence you are doing you’re best. Just my 2 cents!
Tristan
Who els infected with corona virus 😔
This series was a mess, and not really in a good way. So many noob moves from saymyname. Can only guess the tournament pressure got to him. Anyway, hey T90 remember that time Dave made 3 archery ranges on the neutral island by mistake? Good times, good memes.
Man, i get that you are excited, but lately it's becoming impossible to watch you without being afraid of waking up the entire neighborhood, can you please tone down your screams a bit?
Don't bring people to studio for final of HC3.... Stream it online.... CoronaVirus precaution is necessary
I get people like Dave casting.. I am not one of them. I just feel like it weakens T90's casting, he starts casting for Dave and not for us. Ima give this 3 hour video a skip to the end. Bummer.