You know, the case is pretty easy by these "international competitions". The judges are pure shit. This is ok, and this is the solid element of our reasonment. Then, you have to consider the gold and silver medals as completely absurd. The bronze winner is often a genius (Kate Liu). And among the concurrents thrown out at the first round, you find the great poets. The real musicians. Do not be desperate (like me) about this disgusting matter. And listen to Koczalski here, this incredible beautiful moment, to Samuil Feinberg and his ralentandos in Bach, To Dinu Lipatti and his angelic lyricism, To Artur Schnabel and his wrong notes, to Vladimir Sofronitzky and his morbid passions, to Erwin Nyiregyhazy and his brutality, to Mark Hambourg and his sublime inspiration, to Rudolf Serkin and his slow and enlightened tempi, to Kate Liu and her supernatural velvet touch, and so many others ........... unable to win any medal ...........
Thanks! I've always used this recording to show someone the Chopin style ornament. Koczalski: "When playing his own compositions, Chopin liked here and there to add ornamental variants. Mikuli told me he had a particular predilection for doing this in the Mazurkas." Lenz (Chopin's pupil): "He marked a few small but very important modifications into my score [of the Nocturne, op. 9 no. 2]." We also hear the little embellishments in some recordings of Rosenthal, Pachmann, Michalowski and Natalie Jonatha, who worked with Chopin's students.
Who is Natalie Jonatha? I've never heard of her and can't seem to find anything about her online. Thought i'd listened to all the Chopin tradition recordings, but now im very intrigued
@@tamer3397 Sorry for my typo, I mean Natalia Janotha. She received advice from Chopin's pupil Princess Czartoryska née Radziwill. Also, her mother was very close with Chopin's sister. We hear some embellishments in her Mendelssohn and Chopin recordings.
There's a wonderful blend of absolute naturalness and sophistication which certain 20th-century pianists manage to achieve... Koczalski is certainly one of them. This might be the finest recording of this piece I've heard since Rachmaninov's.
Authenticity discussions are interesting for those so inclined, but as a listener my concern is how the music speaks to me personally, in whatever form or interpretation the artist presents it. I find this recording quite moving, and thank you for sharing it.
Always a fascinating document to listen to. I don't have it at hand at the moment, perhaps you're familiar with Cortot's edition of this Nocturne in which these embellishments are discussed.
Wie wunderbar die Melodie über den Begleitfiguren schwebt, scheinbar schwerelos, als ob die Linke die Rechte führt und trägt, weil diese mit dem wunderbaren Gesang beschäftigt ist. Herrlich, so!
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Poor guy would get eliminated in the first round of a competition. Wonderful playing
Yes... Pupil of pupil Chopin
Competition is an act of stupidity in artistic endeavors
Dependss entirely on the knowledge and skill of the judges
@@PBECKLES1It also depends upon the personal tastes of the judges. And not all of the judges will have the same taste.
You know, the case is pretty easy by these "international competitions".
The judges are pure shit. This is ok, and this is the solid element of our reasonment.
Then, you have to consider the gold and silver medals as completely absurd.
The bronze winner is often a genius (Kate Liu).
And among the concurrents thrown out at the first round, you find the great poets. The real musicians.
Do not be desperate (like me) about this disgusting matter.
And listen to Koczalski here, this incredible beautiful moment, to Samuil Feinberg and his ralentandos in Bach, To Dinu Lipatti and his angelic lyricism, To Artur Schnabel and his wrong notes, to Vladimir Sofronitzky and his morbid passions, to Erwin Nyiregyhazy and his brutality, to Mark Hambourg and his sublime inspiration, to Rudolf Serkin and his slow and enlightened tempi, to Kate Liu and her supernatural velvet touch, and so many others ........... unable to win any medal ...........
Today for me: it was the closest thing i got of the experience of "listening for the first time again".
Yes!
Thanks! I've always used this recording to show someone the Chopin style ornament.
Koczalski: "When playing his own compositions, Chopin liked here and there to add ornamental variants. Mikuli told me he had a particular predilection for doing this in the Mazurkas."
Lenz (Chopin's pupil): "He marked a few small but very important modifications into my score [of the Nocturne, op. 9 no. 2]."
We also hear the little embellishments in some recordings of Rosenthal, Pachmann, Michalowski and Natalie Jonatha, who worked with Chopin's students.
Who is Natalie Jonatha? I've never heard of her and can't seem to find anything about her online. Thought i'd listened to all the Chopin tradition recordings, but now im very intrigued
@@tamer3397 Sorry for my typo, I mean Natalia Janotha. She received advice from Chopin's pupil Princess Czartoryska née Radziwill.
Also, her mother was very close with Chopin's sister. We hear some embellishments in her Mendelssohn and Chopin recordings.
There's a wonderful blend of absolute naturalness and sophistication which certain 20th-century pianists manage to achieve... Koczalski is certainly one of them. This might be the finest recording of this piece I've heard since Rachmaninov's.
The variation of tone in the melody line is amazing... almost physically impossible when you consider it is only a hammer striking strings.
Chopin's nocturne... but a bit of Koczalski 😊 Oneiric ... and sometimes pearly. How many fabulous colors. I love his Chopin❤
his playing realy sings!! i have never heard a better performance of this nocturne! amazing
How lovely! Much more interesting than our bland modern versions!
Ben Laude sent me here
Me too
Me either
💝💝💝 Unsurpassed and equal to none ... Such a wonderful and so rare recording .... Many thanks for this ... TY
not a crashing or jarring sound to be heard; just poetic realization. So tantalizing
This is probably the closest we get to hearing and understanding how Chopin plays.
Authenticity discussions are interesting for those so inclined, but as a listener my concern is how the music speaks to me personally, in whatever form or interpretation the artist presents it. I find this recording quite moving, and thank you for sharing it.
Wow, I never heard this before. What a great performance, this makes me wonder even more how great Chopin, Liszt, and Rubinstein were at the piano.
Merci beaucoup pour ce tout beau nocture de Chopin et pour l'interprétation pleine de romantisme de Raoul Koczalski 💗🎹💜🎼
Just wonderful, amazing artistry! Bravo, master!
This is a really neat recording.
So schön frei gespielt, und die ornamentalen Hinzufügungen wirken ganz organisch!
enjoyed listening!
Always a fascinating document to listen to. I don't have it at hand at the moment, perhaps you're familiar with Cortot's edition of this Nocturne in which these embellishments are discussed.
The ornament at 2:27! The major chord at 2:52! Disliked the loud LH arpeggios at 4:05, but overall a nuanced and very interesting performance.
Exquisite ❤
Wow! What a creative performance! On my the day of my Father's birth (spooky!).
Wie wunderbar die Melodie über den Begleitfiguren schwebt,
scheinbar schwerelos, als ob die Linke die Rechte führt und trägt, weil
diese mit dem wunderbaren Gesang beschäftigt ist. Herrlich, so!
wow. very very precious, and i dont mean false precious....
Incredible!I wonder if anyone saved the score with the variants like this,though?
I've been told that it's available.
Dang! I now wish I had a piano instructor who could teach me the nuances, then...because I can't read music...at all. It's so gorgeous!@@ThePianoFiles
Beautiful
Who is also here because of the Chopin Podcast? 😀
Me 😅
What Chopin podcast?
Is it still available, somewhere?
me hhhh
that touch tho
The nocturne makes way more sense in this version. I always thought the standard version had too little ornamentation
I think so too.
фенменальная техника пальцев!!!
無数の星が輝いていたのでしょう キラキラしてるショパンの夜想曲ですね
He is one of my favorite Chopin interpreters...
Are there more of these interpretations? That seem to have come from Chopin through his students. Thanks x
2:52
Il comprend ma musique mieux que quiconque !
Original Chopin's version
Was he eliminated? Then the referees should voluntarily abandon the music and the piano.
Ce pianiste n'avait pas de perle jouant