Imposing 330 move speed cap while allowing druid to fly around the map at 500 move speed while dealing more DPS than rogue and being tankier than a fighter sure is a choice.
The dude have a +200k gear set and you complaing about something ? The guys he was fighting none have more than 40k on his body. He have the best of the best you can have. Like the ultimate best best. Try a 2k kit for a druid and for a barb, ranger, fighter, rogue. Druid is obliterated. Try a 200k kit for same. Same results. Druid is only good for 3rd party and run. Bear is too big and slow, you say he punching fast cause action speed ? with 30% bear have like 4% action speed. With 39 str bear does like 45 damage. A warrior class 30% action speed and 39 str with a legendary weapon does like 80 to 100 more fast. And you can even have a weapon with range so you dont get hit by bear. If he change to panter you still win with little effort cause damage. Panther is paper, people run from it instead of atacking it. If you think druid is unbalaced, why in ranks always same ones ``barb, wiz, rogue, bard``. Also druid is one of the less played ones, and barb and fighter are the most. Why ? Cause they are simple, strong and dont need much investment to be meta.
Honestly all they have to do is put timers on the shape-shifting like make it instant but it's still 10s before you can swap back to a certain form or something. The no consequences for swapping is insane because of how strong it is.
@@smuckee83010seconds would definitely gut the class. It should just be like a 1 - 3 second CD between all shifts. Except human form should be allowed anytime. So like you can still panther/chicken jump and other tech. Just no more swapping between chicken/bear/rat/panther/chicken/bear all in 3 seconds.
Oh sweet child, this is how every new class will release and stay. If they take almost 2 years to balance warlock, don’t think druids ever gonna come close lmfao
My opinion as an Apex* movement player with 4000 hours and a druid movement aficionado: The class is too much, that's fair, but I think balancing it should involve something deeper than just Shapeshift cooldowns. It's the most fun class in the game, it takes skill to play, and there is a learning curve. What developers need to address are the hitboxes and healing. Mainly I'm talking about the Bear form. It's a subpar form by itself and only works against someone in a corner or with a short weapon. However, as soon as you learn how to spam Bear transform out of a jump (which isn't hard), it becomes a free melee win. Even without transforming, jumping right-click provides automatic spacing against almost all weapons. Of course, you can still be bad at the game, and good players will outspace you. But, you can rat-form run away and heal much faster than the eight other classes, and you can do that multiple times for some reason. It's a no-skill, cringe way of playing. You can be a cringe panther camping in the dark and landmining, but that's a playstyle issue and not a class problem. You can be just as cringe on any class and Rogue exists btw. When I play other classes, I actually enjoy fighting shapeshifting druids. Maybe after maining it, the process of finding and punishing their mistakes is interesting to me. I'm grateful they fixed the left-click bear blocking hitbox so I can actually use a longsword against a bear, but there are still problems with it that ruin fun in fights. How I want druid to be balanced, with the hope of keeping the movement (fun part): 1 Fix Bear: -No more invisible box preventing you from moving, maybe rework the right-click if dynamic hitboxes are not possible. -Why does the Bear rotate so stupidly? I understand the Panther being agile, but the Bear can dodge attacks by rotating its massive body for some reason. -Some delay after transforming for Bear attacks; cornering and stat-checking players is enough to make it a playable form, in my opinion. This delay will prevent unhittable shapeshift spam bear hits. I think something like changing forms to hit standing targets is okay, but I can literally chase people by jumping as a bear, which is stupidly overpowered. -Maybe if you shapeshift to a bear, you gain bear HP over time, so if you spam it, you won’t get the HP and PDR benefits instantly. -If the druid takes damage, the rat form should become slow/tired if that makes sense. This would make it so you can't play terribly and get away in rat form almost for free. By the time you pull out and "charge up" your torch, the rat is far enough that the torch is ineffective, and the druid is healing using spells. 2 You should get less magical healing or completely remove healing spells if you have Shapeshift mastery. I can jump on a wall/gain some distance/take cover and completely reset my health multiple times during a fight. That is not okay. The new perk with +2HP healing aims to separate melee druid and support druid by disabling shapeshift, but I think this needs to go further and also nerf healing for shapeshifting too. 3 fix chicken. its broken like bear but in the opposite way. Funny chicken build needs some attack hitbox rework Backstory and why I don't want shapeshifting to have a cooldown: When the druid was put into D&D, I was hooked into the game. *It's like an Apex character but in Dark and Darker. I have spent days learning different jumps, experimenting with covering distances in different modules, and finding some rat holes. I probably spent more time flying on top of walls in the ruins and the Ice Abyss than on playable ground. When multiclassing was introduced at the end of the last season, while players were building Smite Rogues, Dreamwalk Warlocks, Invis Barbs, or some other dumb overpowered meta builds, I was spending my wipe money on double-jump true magic dmg poison rat. It was one of the most fun games I ever had, joining 1v3, running from teams, double-jumping on walls, and biting toes in the dark when teams were fighting. Druid is the most asymmetrical experience in any game I've played. I play as a small rodent while multiple huge dudes with huge weapons desperately try to catch me in the shadows. It's like the fun part of 1v3 in Apex but without people gunning you down with automatic weapons.
Whats stupid is that SDF was supposed to give all classes a higher skill expression since he said it himself, and he said it in a QnA quite a while ago. And then he did nothing, and more nothing, and some more nothing. Then he finally remembered he was supposed to add higher skill expression to every other class than druid and finally decided to nerf druid. He can genuinely be a knucklehead from time to time.
they just need to make it so you stand still for 5 seconds and open the red stairway to go down, they can be open at the start but just make it so people cant insta run away into it
Come to HR, we have unstoppable druids that do not have any weaknesses! I think ill stick to norms, im not throwing gold away to have a incredibly high chance of losing.
Yup. Now that they removed the gear score the game is just back to whoever has better gear wins. Wish this game was a little more like tarkov in the sense that you could have a somewhat chance against super geared people but we all saw how patch 69 turned out..
95% of the video is Frog womping 150 gs timmies. Thank you SDF for merging a guy wearing a couple blue weapons and gear with dudes wearing named items.
Devs said that they are gonna just bring all the other classes up to this level! Just gotta give Sorc back the insta-kill lighting storm, maybe 3x windlass damage and Long Bow damage. The game would feel SOOO good xD
a CD between forms in much needed but im glad we got to see how this works awesome vid but honestly a bit sad only one or two people put up a real fighting chance lmao
Hope they nerf damage an scaling by 50%, give transformation and thorncoat big cooldowns, make dreamwalk into a skill, nerf the heals and lower the amount of them. This class is the most broken thing in the game.
the way that barb was swinging his zwei at a bear and missing UNINSTALL ATP LOL and the "blatant cheats" more like blatant whiffs. lastly, all these people in piss...THE SDF VISION LETS GO! #UNINSTALLEDCUZSHITGAME
Can you do a tutorial on some of your techniques on moving through the map. I know the panther to chicken jump. But I see you seem to even glide further and higher than how I do. Even going back and forth mid jump to go further impresses me
They should just make it when transforming they have to go human form before going to other transformations like human - rat - human - panther that way theres no more panther chicken
All wearing at class, but it with absolutly insane kit. I think kit is much more important in that vid. But it's true that druid have very good scaling from kit.
@@abduljabarswhen it comes to PvP true damage is just always better since it goes through pdr, and you’re almost never going to run into someone with less than 15% pdr, especially in HR
@@xzxr4hit’s actually a cheat. If only ironmace would tell it how it is, there has been an influx of cheaters since they made the game free/ continuous dungeons got implemented. It’s already been confirmed by numerous people who have bought it. Unfortunately ironmace is a shit company and often times lie to us
@alexandreropot561 laced turnshoes are trash man, but I guess you can get away with it on druid since you're 999 movespeed whenever you need to be anyways 😂 adventures Lightfoots and heavy boots probably way more expensive
@@ignaciohiguero1616 druid has had the same ups and downs as every other class they balance for trios and druid isnt played much in trios cause they have limited range options
The entire kit is absolutely filthy except for the shoes. Which idiot gemmed the laced turnshoes!? Trying for 1 vig or 1-2 max hp over 3-4 move speed is delusional.
I'm all for the toxicity, however when you admit that the class is broken, and call people trash because they can't get away from the movement tech, seems a bit off. love the vids though!
Imposing 330 move speed cap while allowing druid to fly around the map at 500 move speed while dealing more DPS than rogue and being tankier than a fighter sure is a choice.
dont forget also having heal spells
first he had full unque gear its should be op thats why gear is doff
The dude have a +200k gear set and you complaing about something ?
The guys he was fighting none have more than 40k on his body.
He have the best of the best you can have. Like the ultimate best best.
Try a 2k kit for a druid and for a barb, ranger, fighter, rogue. Druid is obliterated.
Try a 200k kit for same. Same results.
Druid is only good for 3rd party and run. Bear is too big and slow, you say he punching fast cause action speed ? with 30% bear have like 4% action speed. With 39 str bear does like 45 damage. A warrior class 30% action speed and 39 str with a legendary weapon does like 80 to 100 more fast. And you can even have a weapon with range so you dont get hit by bear.
If he change to panter you still win with little effort cause damage.
Panther is paper, people run from it instead of atacking it.
If you think druid is unbalaced, why in ranks always same ones ``barb, wiz, rogue, bard``. Also druid is one of the less played ones, and barb and fighter are the most. Why ? Cause they are simple, strong and dont need much investment to be meta.
@@ThorVerasnice try diddy ain’t no one reading all that
btw he has a 200k kit
the way it teleported into my hand fully bricked
Real shit
Can't wait till this class gets gutted. by far the worst addition to the game
It’s definitely needed but so are a few classes the game just needs some work in general
Honestly all they have to do is put timers on the shape-shifting like make it instant but it's still 10s before you can swap back to a certain form or something. The no consequences for swapping is insane because of how strong it is.
@@smuckee83010seconds would definitely gut the class. It should just be like a 1 - 3 second CD between all shifts. Except human form should be allowed anytime. So like you can still panther/chicken jump and other tech. Just no more swapping between chicken/bear/rat/panther/chicken/bear all in 3 seconds.
Oh sweet child, this is how every new class will release and stay. If they take almost 2 years to balance warlock, don’t think druids ever gonna come close lmfao
@@smuckee830SDF said he’s adding cooldowns to shapeshifts this week!
My opinion as an Apex* movement player with 4000 hours and a druid movement aficionado:
The class is too much, that's fair, but I think balancing it should involve something deeper than just Shapeshift cooldowns. It's the most fun class in the game, it takes skill to play, and there is a learning curve.
What developers need to address are the hitboxes and healing. Mainly I'm talking about the Bear form. It's a subpar form by itself and only works against someone in a corner or with a short weapon. However, as soon as you learn how to spam Bear transform out of a jump (which isn't hard), it becomes a free melee win. Even without transforming, jumping right-click provides automatic spacing against almost all weapons. Of course, you can still be bad at the game, and good players will outspace you. But, you can rat-form run away and heal much faster than the eight other classes, and you can do that multiple times for some reason. It's a no-skill, cringe way of playing. You can be a cringe panther camping in the dark and landmining, but that's a playstyle issue and not a class problem. You can be just as cringe on any class and Rogue exists btw. When I play other classes, I actually enjoy fighting shapeshifting druids. Maybe after maining it, the process of finding and punishing their mistakes is interesting to me. I'm grateful they fixed the left-click bear blocking hitbox so I can actually use a longsword against a bear, but there are still problems with it that ruin fun in fights.
How I want druid to be balanced, with the hope of keeping the movement (fun part):
1 Fix Bear:
-No more invisible box preventing you from moving, maybe rework the right-click if dynamic hitboxes are not possible.
-Why does the Bear rotate so stupidly? I understand the Panther being agile, but the Bear can dodge attacks by rotating its massive body for some reason.
-Some delay after transforming for Bear attacks; cornering and stat-checking players is enough to make it a playable form, in my opinion. This delay will prevent unhittable shapeshift spam bear hits. I think something like changing forms to hit standing targets is okay, but I can literally chase people by jumping as a bear, which is stupidly overpowered.
-Maybe if you shapeshift to a bear, you gain bear HP over time, so if you spam it, you won’t get the HP and PDR benefits instantly.
-If the druid takes damage, the rat form should become slow/tired if that makes sense. This would make it so you can't play terribly and get away in rat form almost for free. By the time you pull out and "charge up" your torch, the rat is far enough that the torch is ineffective, and the druid is healing using spells.
2 You should get less magical healing or completely remove healing spells if you have Shapeshift mastery. I can jump on a wall/gain some distance/take cover and completely reset my health multiple times during a fight. That is not okay. The new perk with +2HP healing aims to separate melee druid and support druid by disabling shapeshift, but I think this needs to go further and also nerf healing for shapeshifting too.
3 fix chicken. its broken like bear but in the opposite way. Funny chicken build needs some attack hitbox rework
Backstory and why I don't want shapeshifting to have a cooldown:
When the druid was put into D&D, I was hooked into the game. *It's like an Apex character but in Dark and Darker. I have spent days learning different jumps, experimenting with covering distances in different modules, and finding some rat holes. I probably spent more time flying on top of walls in the ruins and the Ice Abyss than on playable ground. When multiclassing was introduced at the end of the last season, while players were building Smite Rogues, Dreamwalk Warlocks, Invis Barbs, or some other dumb overpowered meta builds, I was spending my wipe money on double-jump true magic dmg poison rat. It was one of the most fun games I ever had, joining 1v3, running from teams, double-jumping on walls, and biting toes in the dark when teams were fighting. Druid is the most asymmetrical experience in any game I've played. I play as a small rodent while multiple huge dudes with huge weapons desperately try to catch me in the shadows. It's like the fun part of 1v3 in Apex but without people gunning you down with automatic weapons.
The fact that u can change shape 10times in 1 second is fcking retar*ed. This class is Abomination to everything thats broken in this game.
Whats stupid is that SDF was supposed to give all classes a higher skill expression since he said it himself, and he said it in a QnA quite a while ago.
And then he did nothing, and more nothing, and some more nothing.
Then he finally remembered he was supposed to add higher skill expression to every other class than druid and finally decided to nerf druid.
He can genuinely be a knucklehead from time to time.
This video alone should get Druid removed completely
frwog showing gear in 2025 is crazy
they just need to make it so you stand still for 5 seconds and open the red stairway to go down, they can be open at the start but just make it so people cant insta run away into it
Same with blues
@ 1000%
I saw additional mem cap socketed on a unique tattered clock 2 days ago so I’ve just given up on trying to make sense of things
I hope that was a missclick because those unique gems are insanely expensive
The only way I can excuse this is warlock. That base knowledge is criminally low.
@@shumatsuplaran7251you don’t even want men cap on warlock. You want knowledge for the casting speed. Only card or Druid really use mem cap
Bard*
The beef with poodiddy is crazy
he's a teaming stream sniper no shit
no way we get to see poodiddy again
First barb had a valid point 💯
😂
lol, you think homo is an insult XD
beginning of this video is a great example of why gearscore lobbies are kinda important in the current game state
@@Freezie455 bro i hope they at least give us 224s im not tryna be in a frowg video😭😭
Come to HR, we have unstoppable druids that do not have any weaknesses!
I think ill stick to norms, im not throwing gold away to have a incredibly high chance of losing.
WHAT THE SIGMA!!??!?WHAT THE SIGMA!!??!?
Also insane how half the people in this video have worse gear than freaks in normals. Anyways love the content, hate the class.
if druid transformation gets a cooldown ill fucking paint the ceiling white in 1 stroke 😩
ITS COMING BAABYYYY
9:01 Wizard died with the "paint me like one of your French girls" ahh pose.
Poodiddy gets one kill while teaming, Frog forever hold it against him.
i ran into you twice at 20.05 and 24:20
the fear in my heart as i watched you clear that gap.
you are one scary fella as druid
it's the class bro I promise it's very balanced and sdf knows what he's doing!!!!
2:03 Frog when people don't play the game 11 hours a day and spend $400 USD on kits like him😡😡😤
lmao ty for the ad revenue dipshit
video is you gear checking everyone and not actually outplaying people. dark and darker 2025
Yup. Now that they removed the gear score the game is just back to whoever has better gear wins.
Wish this game was a little more like tarkov in the sense that you could have a somewhat chance against super geared people but we all saw how patch 69 turned out..
Was looking, this set cost in fact more than 200k i was saying, counting on gems is between 400k 500k. Killing people with 2 to 15k sets. Balanced.
95% of the video is Frog womping 150 gs timmies. Thank you SDF for merging a guy wearing a couple blue weapons and gear with dudes wearing named items.
1 credit card swipe ahh kit
Ruins' whole middle area is way too escapable. 3 red portals in a 2x2 radius basically.
Devs said that they are gonna just bring all the other classes up to this level! Just gotta give Sorc back the insta-kill lighting storm, maybe 3x windlass damage and Long Bow damage. The game would feel SOOO good xD
also bring back the 95% pdr cap on fighter
Wish my HR lobbies looked like this
“DUUUUR JUST WALK AWAY FROM THE BEAR DUUUUUUR ARE YOU STUPID?”
why does it sound like frog is in pain when he laughs "haha hmpf hmpf"
a CD between forms in much needed but im glad we got to see how this works awesome vid but honestly a bit sad only one or two people put up a real fighting chance lmao
Bro didn’t pick up a stinky stick
Hope they nerf damage an scaling by 50%, give transformation and thorncoat big cooldowns, make dreamwalk into a skill, nerf the heals and lower the amount of them. This class is the most broken thing in the game.
love the content but maybe pick some more wholesome frog vids instead of people just straight up abusing frogs
That's me! at 31:41 DAYUM Mr Tadpole
erm actually this is NOT a hybrid build because he didnt stack resourcefulness for the chicken form i have been disappointed by the clickbait.
Buff druid LMAO
This was pretty disgusting to watch but I loved your reaction to the weird builds like the Druid resourcefulness spec 🤣
i dont want to think about how much this kit cost lmao. truly a new level of broken previously thought unreachable
I would really love to see an updated druid build guide and the tech you use to fight. I'm just learning druid and want to see how you do it.
the way that barb was swinging his zwei at a bear and missing UNINSTALL ATP LOL and the "blatant cheats" more like blatant whiffs.
lastly, all these people in piss...THE SDF VISION LETS GO! #UNINSTALLEDCUZSHITGAME
Can you do a tutorial on some of your techniques on moving through the map. I know the panther to chicken jump. But I see you seem to even glide further and higher than how I do. Even going back and forth mid jump to go further impresses me
my pants fell off and while i was trying to put them back on my mom came in with your video up
grey viking helm
not overkill enough, run spell weaver next time.
Illusory would be funnier.
Nice vid, now buff rouge hide duration and charges
They should just make it when transforming they have to go human form before going to other transformations like human - rat - human - panther that way theres no more panther chicken
i need 0.25 play speed to actually see the transform tab, da perks make this class so balanced
Its macros
All wearing at class, but it with absolutly insane kit. I think kit is much more important in that vid. But it's true that druid have very good scaling from kit.
game seems fun and balanced
Who tf slotted add phys on that cape bro. Perma banned
Which cape? Depending on the build, add phy is better than add true since true doesn't get multiplied by headshots.
@@abduljabarswhen it comes to PvP true damage is just always better since it goes through pdr, and you’re almost never going to run into someone with less than 15% pdr, especially in HR
2:06 what do you mean what is this??? they remove 125-225 gear score :(((((((
LOL DRUID IS KINDA WEAK RN
Barbarians and fighters as they get mauled by a bear think with their last thoughts:
"Nerf cleric"
Wait it’s all bis?
theres supposed to be a new hack that lets you keep gear even if someone kills you n full swoops you
Was already fixed
This is what I live for slaughta
33:30 Disappearing gear is a new cheat. They get their stuff back.
add phys on cloak is crazy im reporting for harassment
LMAO I WASNT THE ONE WHO SOCKETED ITT
It's no full hybrid, because you didn't attack as a chicken!
I did 23:25
Oh, shi~!
Chicken beats the bear!
Druid should have 2 sec cd on shapeshift
frwog please bear my children 😍
20:46 words are hard XD
the cooldowns aint fixing the problem this shit broken fundamentally
yo fr tho whats supposed to be the counter to druid?
druid counters casters and druid counters melee what counters them? theyre literally the perfect class wtf
1. They need to change instant down portals.. it needs to have a delay or something. 2. Druid is so far on the spectrum it’s not even funny.
Frog Druid form coming soon in the year 2014
Devs are blind
8:15 not the free loot delivery from the diddy lol
Rogues gear vanished at last clip
poor frwog gonna get eated in the beginning
Not again… poohdiddy -1 kit
people saying its a cheat to get your stuff back from gob merchent, takes only the cheaters gear away from you at end of game
if true, crazy how many cheaters there are
it was a bug, its fixed
@@xzxr4hit’s actually a cheat. If only ironmace would tell it how it is, there has been an influx of cheaters since they made the game free/ continuous dungeons got implemented. It’s already been confirmed by numerous people who have bought it. Unfortunately ironmace is a shit company and often times lie to us
I wanna be shapeshift to frwog
real title: "i have aids"
panther wyvern speedrun with this kit
That gear is absolutely ridiculous!!! Some of the best gear I've seen, but those laced turn shoes are super mid, same with the spell book 😮
5 statted unique boots are mid ?XD
@alexandreropot561 laced turnshoes are trash man, but I guess you can get away with it on druid since you're 999 movespeed whenever you need to be anyways 😂 adventures Lightfoots and heavy boots probably way more expensive
do you think druid will get nerfed soon or at least reworked?
we know druid is getting nerfed next patch or really soon, it was leaked, they will ad cooldown on transform
Good luck escaping from a druid u cant run u cant portal😂 just great balancing
Daddy chill you posted just yesterday. 😩
Working as intended lmao
cant have a vid without skill diffing poodiddy
idk man druid chat told me this class sucks and has so much counterplay. buff druid :)
that kit is disgusting, a barb double axe hs doesnt even do 10% of ur hp
thanks sdf!
2k barb kit vs 200k+ kit, are you trully comparing them both without looking the kit ? Omg.
6 minutes in to this video, if this dont get druid nerfed idk what will ong.
Are you not kind of embarrassed only running bis on Druid first layer?
That first barb lol
Balanced asf
D#1 Scooper
Holy Balans.
Dark and darker cheaters have a cheat that lets them keep their gear now even if you extract with it. which might be what happened to you at 33:40
downvoted and reported for playing druid
NOOOOOO
praying on druids downfall everyday
odd way to spell ranger
brooo ur literally the reaSon i alt f4 this shiz
Does it just look completely uncounterable because it's clips? Or is this just how druid is
The class its op and busted since it's realease and it was mich worse before, but the developers are just dumb. Everyone knows they are dumb
@@ignaciohiguero1616 druid has had the same ups and downs as every other class they balance for trios and druid isnt played much in trios cause they have limited range options
The entire kit is absolutely filthy except for the shoes. Which idiot gemmed the laced turnshoes!? Trying for 1 vig or 1-2 max hp over 3-4 move speed is delusional.
tf do I need more move speed for when I'm already 370 move speed in panther, just tell me you're inbred atp
slayer got buffed, do a vid plsss
If this class gets nerfed I’m offing myself (in Minecraft)
it will next patch or the patch after it was leaked, cd on transfo
@@Jukbox54hopefully the cooldown is one cooldown per form, if they removed the panther chicken movement tech itd be stupid
Do it irl plz
@@matthewloscar2893 yes each form will have a cooldown they won't kill the tech
I'm all for the toxicity, however when you admit that the class is broken, and call people trash because they can't get away from the movement tech, seems a bit off. love the vids though!
ily sm pookie
and i HATE Poo Diddy >:(((((((((((((((
deIete druid
I hate druids < 99% of the playerbase