Should You Get A Degree In Game Dev? (My Story)

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  • @thomasbrush
    @thomasbrush  5 лет назад +73

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    • @gavrochethenardier957
      @gavrochethenardier957 5 лет назад

      You're the best

    • @vexrich
      @vexrich 5 лет назад +4

      I hate to say it Thomas but I think maybe you just didn't do enough comprehensive research on the program and ended up in a really irrelevant study instead of one that could teach you useful software. I agree with most of what you said in this video but you might have gotten an extraordinarily useless degree.

    • @Ainianu1
      @Ainianu1 5 лет назад +1

      I do agree with what you say. It really comes down to the cost-benefit, there are a lot of degrees (like your example nursing) where you cannot get a job as that profession without the degree. But game development is not like that, and many universities that are even trying to present a degree on the subject may not be doing it right anyhow, as their method of building a module to present can take long enough that the subject is out of date already by the time the student is in the chair. Porfolio is the most important part by far as you stated. I think if you are going to a larger company, having a degree 'in addition' to a good porfolio would increase your chances of getting a job. But is it worth that price? Even here in the UK where degree's tend to be a lot cheaper, I think I would try to encourage anyone to think and research the matter well before going into a university.

    • @jovictor3007
      @jovictor3007 5 лет назад +1

      If I am correct i beleive you published on nitendo switch which seems to be like black magic ,no tutorials nothing ,do you have any resources or tutorials that helped you with exporting to nitendo ?

    • @dimitrioskitsikidis
      @dimitrioskitsikidis 5 лет назад +2

      Nah its not dude xD, only reason im going, is to do something that allowes me to skip mandatory military of my homecountry.
      If I manage to skip it for another 2-3 years, I am free from that military crap, lulz
      gg great vid man!

  • @broganking9830
    @broganking9830 5 лет назад +778

    I got a masters degree in music, now I'm a full-time programmer, because that's how that works.

    • @phin6484
      @phin6484 5 лет назад +54

      Also got (two) masters in music and immediately 180'd and went into solo game development. Great use of $37,000!
      xD
      ...why

    • @broganking9830
      @broganking9830 5 лет назад +19

      @@phin6484 at least it was fun lol. Its interest free here in NZ and just comes out of our taxes, so probably not as bad as it is in US. But still....

    • @phin6484
      @phin6484 5 лет назад +5

      @@broganking9830 True! I'll definitely always love being a musician and made a lot of friends along the way. NZ is awesome I want to visit some day!

    • @valroz
      @valroz 4 года назад +4

      @@broganking9830 How hard was it to get your first job and how did you get it?

    • @broganking9830
      @broganking9830 4 года назад +13

      @@valroz not hard at all. i literally got the first job i applied for. but to be honest there aren't many game developers in my city, so i cant imagine many people applied. I think I got job because I showed a lot of passion and I had a video and project of stuff i could show off that I was working on in Unity... I think that is key. Having a something to show.

  • @hrishikeshkumar2264
    @hrishikeshkumar2264 5 лет назад +313

    It not a just piece of paper. It’s a $40,000 piece of paper. XD

    • @cornyboi4434
      @cornyboi4434 5 лет назад +8

      Yeah but you can't sell it

    • @necrago
      @necrago 5 лет назад +2

      @@cornyboi4434 yeah, but you can't sell money too, but it's usefull...
      (or, just like money, you can trade it...?)

    • @NST-games
      @NST-games 5 лет назад +5

      No, it's a $40,000 + a few years of your time piece of paper.

    • @themuhammad1
      @themuhammad1 2 года назад

      But Time is money. Not paper cash is money.

    • @ciel1083
      @ciel1083 20 дней назад

      Especially if you didn't learn any new skills or apply them to anything.

  • @BhargavaMan
    @BhargavaMan 5 лет назад +324

    I got a degree in game dev for about $80,000USD way back in 2010(UOIT, Canada) and the answer is basically, NO DON'T DO IT

    • @TechGameX
      @TechGameX 5 лет назад +6

      is there such degree in India

    • @jaulloa21
      @jaulloa21 5 лет назад +6

      Wtf?

    • @BhargavaMan
      @BhargavaMan 5 лет назад +10

      @@TechGameX to my knowledge, I don't think so. There's plenty of diplomas in animation/game programming tho, which are equally worthless imo

    • @BhargavaMan
      @BhargavaMan 5 лет назад +17

      @Chipmunk If you're not sure about what you want to do after graduation, then a comp sci degree is the safest bet. With the recent uptick in ML/AI fields, focusing on programming is just about the safest tech degree you can get.
      You can just learn C++/C# on the side by experimenting with Unity/UE4.

    • @vegitoblue2187
      @vegitoblue2187 3 года назад

      @@TechGameX not worth it trust me

  • @christophermcfadden7965
    @christophermcfadden7965 3 года назад +11

    When I went to college, I noticed that many people were there to learn the skills that they could learn else where or on their own, but completely ignoring all the things that that the structure of college provides, such as working on work that isnt your passion project, and being reasonable and realistic about creating scopes, integrating into a team, using scrums and trello etc to keep a team stay on task and divid up the project into milestones and baby steps, most students seem to think if they can get really really good at one thing they'll get hired anywhere, but spend NONE of that time learning how to network, how to understand the dynamics of joining a team, those are the skills you are there to learn, not how to navigate unity, photoshop and a 3D software.
    I would say it is ESPECIALLY important for most people to eventually go to college because despite having good ideas, most people do not know how to organize their work, share it with peers, integrate into a team, nor does everyone have the skillset to build such a good brand on youtube and an email list or whatnot to build a community to integrate into.
    At the end of the day, all art, media and technology is about COMMUNICATING INFORMATION, and most people get way to caught up in being some sort of "unique artist" instead of learning how to create true dialogue between them, their team and their audience.

    • @christophermcfadden7965
      @christophermcfadden7965 3 года назад +2

      ALSO DEADLINES holy shit learning deadlines and how to work under pressure is also important

  • @NormaTu545
    @NormaTu545 4 года назад +34

    I went to UCSC for a B.S. in games. I come from a low-income family and had 0 EFC (expected family contribution). It cost me $32,000 for 5 years.
    It felt like a computer science degree with only like 4 classes where I had the opportunity to make games in a team.
    I definitely relate to Thomas's points. A lot of what I learned in my classes do not apply to my career I have now. My advice I'd like to give is to really research these game dev university programs, beyond just what they offer and what they cost. It's really eye opening to actually talk with the people already going through the program to hear what their experience is like too.
    I agree that going thru college for a games degree is not needed for a career in games, because everything one could possibly need to go into gamedev is readily available online for free. You just need the drive, perseverance, and resources to do it.
    But like Thomas said, I wasn't fully aware of what I was capable of at the time, and I was too immature to make myself learn what I needed to learn when I was 18-21 years old. Being at UCSC surrounded me with like-minded peers who just wanted to make games too, and that helped me find people to collaborate with together. It was a lot more effective than if I just went to meetups alone, because we went thru the same classes together and had camaraderie by proximity.
    For me personality, it was worth it, because I knew I didn't know anything about game dev when I changed from a Biology degree, and was better off than trying to figure things out on my own.
    What was most worthwhile was going to a tech bootcamp for mobile game development during the summer, because that gave me the hands on learning I needed to spark that passion in me and get me chasing after mobile game development with all my might.
    So like Thomas says, whether or not one should get a degree in game dev depends on the kind of person that person is.

    • @regrob16
      @regrob16 Год назад

      Hi and thanks for the information. I live in Georgia and have no formal education. What would you think would be a good place to start here and how do you find groups to join?

  • @mirkoson
    @mirkoson 5 лет назад +57

    Agreed. I always dreamt to be a game dev since I was a kid with a C64. University in my home town wasn't exciting and I first wasted 2 years in the wrong one, then 7 doing Communication Studies, just to get the damn piece of paper. Then went to England for a Master in Computer Animation, still couldn't find a job in Italy, so I got another Master in Media Content Design in Florence. After that, I finally found a job in an advertisement company in Milan, but in spite of my winding path, those guys needed a Unity developer to make some interactive projects, so, thanks to my proactive attitude I started delivering content through a trial -> error -> success pattern.
    This year I dropped everything and found a job in Helsinki, one of the most lively environments for games development, and I've got the title of Senior Developer in a gaming company. What was my University? RUclips & willpower.

    • @kushal6065
      @kushal6065 3 года назад

      wish I was born in Europe. I could get lots of opportunities for game development career.

    • @K3dzz
      @K3dzz 2 года назад

      I know this comment is really old, but just wondered if you have any advice for taking first step? I am considering a career change from audio engineering. Is it just a matter of having a Unity project/portfolio to show? I am from the UK, if that makes any difference

    • @mirkoson
      @mirkoson 2 года назад +2

      @@K3dzz Well, my suggestion is to study what clean code is, S.O.L.I.D. principles, good architecture for Unity games and stuff like these. Then apply for whatever openings you can find, be prepared to be tested and rejected a good number of times. It's stressful and disheartening, but it's the only way. Test after test you will improve and eventually land some job in the industry. It takes patience and time. Good luck!

    • @firulaisdg9352
      @firulaisdg9352 2 года назад +1

      @@mirkoson I'm studying game development at uni but probably, at the end of the day, I'll be a programmer because it seems pretty hard to get a job as a developer. Do you think I stand a chance as a South American? I really want to be a good programmer and I'm thinking in leaving the country. If you have a piece of advice I'll appreciate it!! :D
      Edit: I'm working on my portfolio. I've made 3 short games and I'm starting with the 4 one.

    • @mirkoson
      @mirkoson 2 года назад

      @@firulaisdg9352 well, I can't really say for other places, but in Europe, and specifically here in Finland there's opportunities for sure, and in this field it doesn't matter where you are from and English is enough to work as a developer. I have colleagues from South America, so why not?

  • @tvnalad
    @tvnalad 5 лет назад +25

    Me: *gives papers & diploma to sign up for infromatic technologies college*
    RUclips: *informs me about this video 3 weeks later*
    Me again: *anxiety slowly kicks in*

  • @RideFixRepeat
    @RideFixRepeat 3 года назад +9

    As someone who is grinding through 150 hours of udemy courses to get official certs through the unity platform to ultimately produce my own content and even get a job in game development industry, this is very inspirational. I've been a manufacturing engineer in the automotive world for 6 years now without a degree (tech school ftw) and recently decided to actually try to work towards a career that I WANT to do. Thank you!

  • @YannickGames
    @YannickGames 5 лет назад +24

    I think it’s so interesting to see how different the educational route is in different countries. In Germany you can study “Game Development” or “Game Design” at almost no costs. I think the problem with this system is that the education maybe isn’t valued as much, and a lot of people drop off early.

    • @TonsOfHunStudios
      @TonsOfHunStudios 5 лет назад +1

      Interesting. Education seems to be very different across different countries and regions!

    • @lucv5573
      @lucv5573 9 месяцев назад

      Paid for by tax dollars you mean with less accountability on the part of the college in question (this depends). Not saying it isn't valuable, it just limits choice and assumes the productivity output per capita will make up for the expense to the avg. citizen. As described in this video, his particular experience didn't offer enough worth for the 4 years he could've been spending building a game and company.

  • @danielaustin3674
    @danielaustin3674 5 лет назад +15

    Great thoughts man. Really glad to see you successful and happy!

  • @Stiny421
    @Stiny421 3 года назад +4

    Really appreciate the brutal honesty. I really want to do Game Development, but I also feel like I'm fighting alot of stuff that's out of my control right now too. Sorry if that sounds vague

  • @ItBeOnai
    @ItBeOnai 5 лет назад +3

    Huge respect for you bringing up the tech schools. It's a great way to start learning about different things you have an interest in without spending a shit ton of money. Most people don't have that kind of confidence of what they want to do with their life and it's a great way to experiment in a safe way

  • @ZedAmadeus
    @ZedAmadeus 5 лет назад +36

    I really appreciate you sharing this story... :D
    Also, digging the hair!

  • @pedagogygames5299
    @pedagogygames5299 5 лет назад +9

    You have some beautiful artwork in your game.

  • @_minsan
    @_minsan 5 лет назад +2

    This is highly inspiring and a really helpful video for not only game design enthusiasts but also people who's still unsure of what they want in their lives. I am really grateful you spent time in making all these videos and offering all these insights from your perspective and life experiences. Thank you so much!

  • @qwanktazer2143
    @qwanktazer2143 4 года назад +19

    So personally for me I went to a state university and got a 4 year degree in comp sci. And now years later I've realized the degree is only a small part of what I got from college. The friends that I've made and the experiences that I've had have fundamentally altered me as a person in a most beautiful way. I truly believe that of u went to college and all u got from it was a degree, u did college wrong. But as for career wise I agree with u

    • @briannaalejo9226
      @briannaalejo9226 2 года назад

      rn I'm in community college studying CS. Has the degree helped you in employment?

  • @slabs379
    @slabs379 5 лет назад +2

    Thomas, thanks
    i'm 14 and i've been developing a game for 4 years.... actually most of it was just school so about 6 months but at seperated times
    i loose motivation alot and lately thanks to your videos i've gotten my motivation back, and thanks to that i've been working on my game alot
    once i finish this i'm hopefully gonna send it to you and i hope you play it,
    thanks for the videos

    • @TonsOfHunStudios
      @TonsOfHunStudios 5 лет назад +1

      That's awesome dude! What is your game about?

    • @slabs379
      @slabs379 5 лет назад +1

      @@TonsOfHunStudios its a small rythme game, kinda something like dancing line + geometry dash
      I haven't really done a good job at some levels but that's kinda the fun part, trying to go through the weirdness :)

    • @TonsOfHunStudios
      @TonsOfHunStudios 5 лет назад +1

      @@slabs379 Ok cool! I've played geometry dash before. And yeah I bet it's hard doing the levels. I wish you luck!

  • @gingerdio7705
    @gingerdio7705 3 года назад +1

    I am literally debating right now quitting my degree, I feel wasted, I wanna be a concept artist and the course has taught me nothing on the matter, I already had all the things they are teaching me from years before. One of the modules was literally copying from google to a word document and forgetting about it, we have to make a game with a class where 50% are 3D modellers and the other half doesn't even know what they want to be in the games industry. I am wasting £6k a year for all the least important things we need in this industry. This video came at the best possible time. Thank you.

  • @AXLplosion
    @AXLplosion 5 лет назад +1

    I'm 17 years old and game development has been a hobby of mine for years now. I have formed a team with my friend, he does programming and I do art. And I'm going to apply to a game design school. I was born into a country with free education, and the quality of education here is nearly the best in the world. I'm also not very disciplined, which is why I want to get into a game design school, so I can have that slight pressure forcing me to work.
    Of course, the situation in the USA and many other countries is wildly different, so I'm very lucky to be in this position, and will use that luck to my advantage. Thanks for sharing your experiences and thoughts!

    • @TonsOfHunStudios
      @TonsOfHunStudios 5 лет назад

      If your getting a free education I would say go for it, that's great! I'm not going to school for game dev, but it definitely does help build discipline. What's your latest game?

  • @Panchus07
    @Panchus07 5 лет назад +1

    This video is so motivational, I think the same as you, i'm a few days before turning 22 and I think i've should have waited a little bit before rushing into the university (I finished high school and rushed into uni) and also all that you're saying in this video aplies for some aspects of my career and many others (i'm studing informatics) because I could've learned everything and more in few time, well at least having that paper in one more year will get me in touch with good enterprises even with game develpment ones as I am having right now.

  • @vascothestudent
    @vascothestudent 5 месяцев назад

    4 years later and the skillshare link still works, very nice !

  • @WaveWalker15
    @WaveWalker15 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you very much! I have been searching this answer for a couple of months. I'm 19 Years old and every "normal " person says that I should to go to the school to learn a boring stuff for a boring but save job. You inspired me and helped me that I need to go my way.

    • @noftraX
      @noftraX Год назад

      How are the things now?

    • @WaveWalker15
      @WaveWalker15 Год назад

      @@noftraX I am a full time Software developer now :) I studied some game development and figured out that the programming part was the most fun part. I went to an apprenticeship and now here I am, not a game dev but a dev anyway. It was the best choice to focus on my passion and I highly recommend it to others.

  • @ekkogaming5461
    @ekkogaming5461 4 года назад +1

    At least u get a great background of programming and stuff .... am suffering here trying to learn C sharp all by myself xD honestly i think you dont need to regret anything, maybe if you went back in time and changed this certain "thing" you might not have been where you are now. Anyway luv ur vids man

  • @phoenixdiamond2814
    @phoenixdiamond2814 5 лет назад +1

    Currently in a bachelors of Game Development (Programming) and so far I have learned sweet FA about programming games lol
    Thanks for 2 free months!

  • @spaceaf_wtf
    @spaceaf_wtf 5 лет назад +5

    i think this applies to a lot of majors... my film degree feels worthless haha XD

    • @mandisaw
      @mandisaw 4 года назад

      Film degrees are in fact kind of worthless, except for the networking opportunities if you went to a top-tier school. I got further in the business (pre-recession, anyway) with my cheaper, faster TV Production Masters from a public uni than my friend who went to NYU Film school.

  • @KnighthoodGamez
    @KnighthoodGamez 5 лет назад +1

    College is a choice, I respect that. I still think I need to go to college for game development though. I love to learn new things , especially for art. I still need to work on my art skills and I think taking classes will help me improve my skills. The degree just looks good if your trying to work for a company. I still don't know if I want to make my own company or work for one. I'm 21 so I still have some time to make these choices in do time .

  • @nelsonvillegas3859
    @nelsonvillegas3859 5 лет назад +2

    I'm kind of stuck here knowing that now instead of before I was 18...
    College/Universities are only used to build a community for us Game Developers and there is a lot of BS that the college gives you.
    It's been a year now and I still haven't learned anything valuable about Game Development as of yet. Maybe a bit of the basics here and there, but not anything that can prove useful to me.
    I might actually change to computer science and see how that goes.
    Hopefully, I can still have the time to develop something nice and make my game development career full time. Own a company...
    But man, I want it now lol!

    • @Naccarat
      @Naccarat 5 лет назад +2

      I feel you, bro. For me it's been four years and I still haven't learned much. I'm gonna try to change too... Good luck with your future.

    • @yasirhug
      @yasirhug 5 лет назад +2

      I wanted to go to a good game development college but sadly there were no colleges that taught game development here so I enrolled in computer science and after watching this video I think I made the right choice

  • @GhirkoArt
    @GhirkoArt 4 года назад

    Just yesterday I chose not to go to uni for a game dev course because, while I want to enter the industry at some point, I knew I had no intension to join once I was done with the course. Instead I was able to reach and agreement that I work on my own game, proper 9 - 5, until Christmas to see how it goes. Uni will always be waiting should I change my mind at a later date, but once I committed to it, it could easily be a waste of time and money. I'm glad that someone has taken the time to talk about their experiences in this field! 😊

  • @GradMeat
    @GradMeat 2 года назад +1

    To be honest this video helped alot. I'm still considering this since I have a game design degree but I'm switching to comp sci. I hope to transfer from community College where I'm going now to a university but If I do that it will take more time and money. It's nice to know I have more options open. I'm still not sure what I want but I calmed my self down watching this. Currently first semester sophomore so I have time and I'm not in debt. It's best to make that dessision now

  • @e_cleaver
    @e_cleaver 5 лет назад +1

    I did get a degree in business management, more specifically accounting. Working on a second AS in computer programming. I went about getting the degree the smart way, that would lead to the lease amount of debt. Went to community college first and then transferred into another college after that, which would gave me the most amount of scholar ship money.

  • @NaudVanDalen
    @NaudVanDalen 5 лет назад +5

    That's a really expensive piece of paper.

  • @GabCom888
    @GabCom888 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you so much thomas ! I wish i had saw this video before paying for college XD But you make me confident on what I was already thinking. And btw I'm doing a marathon of your videos, I'll catch up pretty soon ;)

  • @emilromin9863
    @emilromin9863 3 года назад

    Hey, I actually played coma once back in the day. I was thinking Thomas's style seemed to match it.

  • @MadziegMr
    @MadziegMr 5 лет назад

    Exactly! When I went to my academy I already know how to use photoshop and how to model things in 3D. It was IT academy so basically for 2,5 year I just had to take everything what I like into the trash and learn a lot of things that was a little unnecessary for me. When I was graduated (a few months ago), I’m just like "ok, now what?" Unfortunately a lot of game dev company in Poland want people with 1-2 years commercial experience and I don’t have that because I was focused to end my academy :/
    So now I’m searching for a job and in free time make my mobile game in unity.

  • @zachhixon5497
    @zachhixon5497 5 лет назад

    I look forward to your videos. Very inspiring man. Keep at it!

  • @kypello3512
    @kypello3512 5 лет назад +5

    I'm 17 years old and I want nothing to do with college. I have a growing portfolio of games that I've been making through my junior year. I know that I can keep making games by myself without college. But my parents want me to go to college and I haven't been able to change their minds.
    Thank you Thomas for this video.

    • @knick4life801
      @knick4life801 5 лет назад +1

      kypello where did u start learning game design? Im 17 too and i want to start now

    • @kypello3512
      @kypello3512 5 лет назад +2

      @@knick4life801 Generally just from game dev youtubers. My favorites are Thomas Brush, Blackthornprod, and Game Makers Toolkit.
      I know that Blackthornprod also has some Udemy courses on Unity which I haven't watched myself, but they have excellent reviews and look like a good place to start if you're looking for that sort of thing.
      If you're ready to start making games you could check out Weekly Game Jam discord.gg/NXccC9 which has a great community of game developers. basically there's a new theme every week, and everyone makes a small game that fits the theme. And of course you can talk to people if you need help with anything.
      That's just what I think of off the top of my head. hopefully it is helpful to you

    • @newkiller4457
      @newkiller4457 4 года назад

      Remember, it doesn't matter what education you have or what age you are though. For a game company to hire you, you must develop a good portfolio.

    • @DagnirRen
      @DagnirRen 3 года назад

      Hey man, it’s been two years. Any progress?

  • @fading-sun-studios
    @fading-sun-studios 6 месяцев назад +1

    Me : Mom i wont go to school.
    Mom: 👟

  • @BME-dj1ox
    @BME-dj1ox 3 года назад

    RUclips is low-key the biggest uni, except that you don't always find a community attached to most of its content (well that's changing recently cuz many people started discord communities along side their channels).
    Ngl, the probability of getting a reply to a comment on a RUclips tutorial is way much higher than my professors responding to my emails these days.

  • @martinkungys3279
    @martinkungys3279 2 года назад

    this is such a great video. I have been going to community college, and I can't find a major that is right for me. I started my sophomore year hoping to study graphic design/animation. I had to change my courses after the second week because the projects we were to be doing later in the semester were such nonsense and the teachers were so skillless and arrogant. Im thinking of creative writing as a major now, but I'm still not certain. Thank you for this video, definitely food for thought.

  • @ayag5538
    @ayag5538 5 лет назад +1

    I'd say if you want to *study* game designing then get a computer science degree.
    As much as I hate to admit it, it really made starting learning how to make games easier for me since I'm not good with self study.

    • @TonsOfHunStudios
      @TonsOfHunStudios 5 лет назад

      This is true! Comp Sci degrees can really help create a good structure for programming in games.

  • @ikecooks
    @ikecooks 4 года назад

    OMG I love this video and hits home! I have gone through all of this!!!

  • @hjhplaysgames4806
    @hjhplaysgames4806 3 года назад

    I’m just about to go to College for a game design course so I watched you. And instead I took a google search course (taught by myself).

  • @joekleist3658
    @joekleist3658 5 лет назад

    You inspire me Everytime I see your videos. You really make me want to shoot for my goals.

  • @kareemhaddad4710
    @kareemhaddad4710 5 лет назад +1

    that made me rethink about every thing....i am 16, i'm doing 3D character as hobby and i am really good at it (not joking) but i dont know if i should continue in it as hobby or think about making it as career .... it is really hard for me to think about the future ;(

    • @TonsOfHunStudios
      @TonsOfHunStudios 5 лет назад

      If you love it and are good at it, I would say go for it! Your 16, so you probably got a few more years to keep building up your skills and portfolio. I would definitely consider a career in it!

  • @itsk0na
    @itsk0na 2 года назад

    You just helped me make a decision that costs tens of thousands of dollars. The least I can do is subscribe.

  • @Kayla_chosen1
    @Kayla_chosen1 11 месяцев назад

    Thinking about transferring to a community college and getting a degree in game design. I’m currently studying management information systems and I hate it. I want to get a ps5 and start a RUclips channel. Gaming is my passion and I want to break into this field. I refuse to go to school and do something I hate . Luckily for me I am not in debt so I know that I have time

  • @trailerscutscenes127
    @trailerscutscenes127 Год назад

    I subscribed for this precious gift that's all I can do ❤❤

  • @K3dzz
    @K3dzz 2 года назад

    I have a double major in Politics and Sociology. I decided I could not morally go into politics, so literally taught myself how to be a sound engineer and music producer. Now I am considering a career change into development. Life is way more fun if you treat it as a constant adventure, and try to learn as many skills as you can. This is how my mother taught me to be, always learning! Degrees are down to the individual, if you want the extra time to learn and perhaps take it easy elsewhere while you do, college is great. Otherwise, outside of being a doctor or a lawyer, you can teach yourself almost anything, with youtube and the internet, we are literally superhuman.

  • @rudolphroets
    @rudolphroets 5 лет назад +7

    Hey Thomas, can you make a video on you recommending e.g. Udemy courses for people looking to start with game development, and what to focus on first (Graphic Design, Character Art etc) in our endeavors.
    Thanks for all the content!

    • @bhutchin1996
      @bhutchin1996 4 года назад +2

      On Udemy, the 2D and 3D game courses by Ben Tristem first and then his 60-hour Blender course.

    • @DagnirRen
      @DagnirRen 3 года назад

      @@bhutchin1996 sounds like fun.

  • @YouKnowNate2
    @YouKnowNate2 5 лет назад +3

    How did you know how to code coma? (when you were 18) Did you have classes or just looked up tutorials?

  • @geoff-dev
    @geoff-dev 5 лет назад

    Thank you for sharing your story!! It inspires me a lot on what I'm really want to do with my life. :)

  • @terepaimaperez2022
    @terepaimaperez2022 5 лет назад

    thanks man, your advise it's really helpful! And thanks for the 2 free months, I'm going to use it a lot!

  • @jn0093
    @jn0093 Год назад

    Man honestly school now a days are horrible but i cant learn alone i dont get commited with my own self and i get stuck easily. I want to go to a game dev school to have at least a base but in my country game dev is weak but i cant go to another country to learn its money that i dont have and at the age of 30 i want to be making money you know.

  • @renukagargicollege1486
    @renukagargicollege1486 3 года назад +1

    We get a piece of paper in return of $30,000USD pieces of paper

  • @aghastfont770
    @aghastfont770 5 лет назад

    Game art student here, I started with a cert 2 in 3d animation because I despited my art teacher and wanted to try something new.
    (I'm self-taught in art with some help from another teacher, but the one I hated preferred to help the "best" students on their work.)
    The certificate saved my HSC ass at a time where my mental health probably kicked over the bucket and called "F this, survive by bare minimum". I met some nice people during both, some of them I'm still friends with while one of them became a casual lecturer at the College. I'm currently doing the Diplomas, the majority of that cost is scholarship + Govt funding.
    Total: 30K-40K (AUD)??
    Do I regret it?
    Not really. I could've learnt Maya or Zbrush/SD for free or at a minimum cost online, but something just didn't click at the time.
    I got to meet some people who have made it in the biz and that sort of gives me hope to carry on my passion.
    I should probably get myself checkout, but self-care is overruled by the cost of pursuing a personal interest.

  • @Mel-mu8ox
    @Mel-mu8ox 2 года назад

    looking at the date of this vid...
    those who took your advice to wait a year. would have benefited greatly
    compared tho those who payed for uni and couldn't even go due to lockdown

  • @allannakhle8555
    @allannakhle8555 3 месяца назад

    I’ve been considering studying game development because I dream of making the Prince of Persia two thrones remake nobody else seems to want to do:)

  • @mr_noodler
    @mr_noodler 2 года назад

    A real degree in computer science will open many doors for you that can help you get a much better job than without one. A hidden benefit is that a college or University teaches you how to learn, think, and solve problems. You will be a better grinder when making your games

  • @BrOverShield
    @BrOverShield 3 года назад

    Studied Electrical engineering for 7 years, got a job in web development, now working in cybersecurity and making video games on the side. Send help.

  • @ordinaryfox4408
    @ordinaryfox4408 2 года назад

    If the game design degree is more focused on software engineering, then its not so bad. If its more art orientated, it is not. At least you have a back up in software if you fail.

  • @logixindie
    @logixindie 5 лет назад +1

    Once you built a portfolio, what's next?

  • @kellz88
    @kellz88 4 года назад +1

    Just found your vid. I'm 30. Decided wanted to follow my dream of trying to become a game designer. I'm afraid of the competition and what I have to offer might not compare to there artistic abilities. Still going for it tho. With no experience. Any wise words or starting points.

    • @pet_cow_5452
      @pet_cow_5452 2 года назад

      Hey mate, did you make progress? I'm 33, and thinking of quitting pharmacy for game dev.

  • @muuubiee
    @muuubiee 4 года назад

    Meanwhile, here in better part of europe. I'm about to go to university/college so I can get a cheap apartment, and some money so I can manage for 3 years while I learn gamedev/programming (might do a light version of computer science though, since gamedev program now seems to be too focused on just gamedev), hopefully avoiding any debt. We get access to 10 month rent apartments, that are cheap, include electricity and warm water. Then ontop of that about $340 per month for studying (if I were younger I'd get a bonus $130/month too). No tuition fees, the only thing you need to take loans for is for your own living.
    Obviously, you should never get into a "game design" program, that's not a thing. Learn a skill instead of studying for years to be just an "idea guy". Even if you get that diploma for free you've just wasted your time.

  • @Ruthless_Ways
    @Ruthless_Ways 4 года назад

    I have a few credits for my business degree but I just don't give a fuck. It's honestly not gonna help me with shit. I've decided I'm gonna follow my passion and get in to Game Dev. Hopefully can learn a lot with out just going to college all over again. If I have to I will. Only to learn the important stuff.

  • @philip2009
    @philip2009 5 лет назад +1

    Well...here in Greece universities and colleges are free, expect if they are not public, but i don't know if there is such a school for game design...

  • @vAqeii
    @vAqeii 5 лет назад +1

    When it comes to games i'd do anything

  • @PeterMilko
    @PeterMilko 4 года назад

    I got a dagree in game dev, UCF. It was not worth it and most of my peers sux. Sadly graduating doesn't mean you are good at game dev. By the way i do tutorials for new game devs.

  • @pixelraven7460
    @pixelraven7460 5 лет назад

    THAT
    WAS
    AMAZING!
    THANK YOU

  • @notmychannel167
    @notmychannel167 5 лет назад +12

    is youtube broken it says people commented on this video yesterday and this video has 10 views

  • @alternativvelol
    @alternativvelol 3 года назад

    Howest DAE in Belgium is a good game dev school for people who can't pay that much money :)

  • @SaucedUpStinkyGrandpa
    @SaucedUpStinkyGrandpa Год назад

    Only couple of ones is for hospitals or food or math maybe drawing or painting but ya science

  • @JolanXBL
    @JolanXBL 2 года назад

    I'm currently taking Game Design at VCAD in the online portion. I recommend you do NOT do this. $44,000 cdn and many students have to use their own computers because the laptops they sent out were discontinued and can't even run Teams without video chop, let along Unreal 5. The software is accessed over network so when the server goes down (Amazon was hacked last July so some had to register trial software and even buy subscriptions to continue working. I got a good Life Drawing teacher, very professional, but some teachers have been not useful. For $44 grand for 18 months, I could have taken 10 separate courses at a local brick & mortar college. I hear this was their first time with the Online version, and it shows.
    People are making furniture in The Sims for free better than what I can do halfway through college. I am majorly depressed with how the F am I going to pay off $44,000 with these 'skills'..

  • @tanyakito
    @tanyakito 5 лет назад

    Great content as always! Please watch your pops on the audio , some harsh pops on the Ps . Still love your stuff tho!

  • @ocital4892
    @ocital4892 3 года назад +1

    I am 17 almost 18, I want to do Game Dev but I don't know anything about it rn. Should I go to college for it since I don't have any knowledge rn or is there a better way?

  • @s4mcreed314
    @s4mcreed314 5 лет назад +6

    9:26 when mom finally agrees to get food from mc donald

  • @brendonmiller883
    @brendonmiller883 4 года назад

    He-Man thanks for the video that was really goodbiggest question that I have is I would love to get into that community of building games with also learning how to go into that graphic designing it itself

  • @RadethProductions
    @RadethProductions 5 лет назад

    Not gonna lie, the younger you threw me off...but yeah I got my degree from Full Sail University (Bachelor of Science, Game Design)...and that cost me $75000. To me, not worth it - however, that's because I did it online instead of being there and interacting with people daily and making connections. I would say it's worth going to school to get the degree if you plan on going into the industry since it gives you connects..otherwise, there are plenty of online courses and tutorials for free or cheap where you can learn the same skills. Thanks for the video, Thomas!

  • @171694
    @171694 5 лет назад

    Also universities do not share the debt with the students, so a student can go bankrupt, and the school will not suffer, because the government will pay, so they can charge as much as they want. Years ago, college in USA used to cost 2500 a year, and now it's this crazy insane price.

  • @hubadj
    @hubadj 5 лет назад

    Well said

  • @akihiroasmr9405
    @akihiroasmr9405 4 года назад

    Thanks you bro, you helped me so much

  • @camengadisaputra
    @camengadisaputra 5 лет назад

    yes that also happen to me right now as computer science student

  • @ZeusCanonliil
    @ZeusCanonliil Год назад

    I'm 36 years old, my wife lives in USA, but I can't go to USA because of some irrational politics between our countries, and I don't know when it is going to get solved.
    I'm a server administrator, but I began to hate my job after 8 years in this field. Long story short, my passion is laid in game idustry, and I want to start my journey. And of course money is a big issue for me, I think what I'm asking is, is it a good idea to go to a university for bachelor degree in game design (or is it even possible? because of my age and the gap), or should I try to start to make my portfolio better and try to find a job in European Country? Anywhere other than Iran :))

  • @lanksplace8474
    @lanksplace8474 5 лет назад

    Thank you Thomas Brush for the 2 months free

  • @samanthaaguiar263
    @samanthaaguiar263 Год назад

    I’m currently studying my career in animation and vfx but I’m really don’t learning what I want to for my game design dream job, so I bought some Unreal engine courses and watched a lot of tutorials to start making my own game but I’m doubting about finishing my career, what should I do?

  • @tymofii4718
    @tymofii4718 3 года назад

    For game dev i would get a bachelors degree in computer science

  • @Spynug
    @Spynug 3 года назад +1

    I think college is a scam when it comes to most degrees but honestly, I just need a degree as a backup plan

  • @TheAbyssGeek
    @TheAbyssGeek 4 года назад

    I'm mainly going for an AA in Business entrepreneurship and certificate in art. Mainly going to community college and that's it. Though am working towards game development, so of skill share is brought up this much, I'm curious to try this for this semester, taking one off.

  • @mitshua
    @mitshua 3 года назад

    Ayy Go Tigers

  • @randomdsfhqe
    @randomdsfhqe 6 месяцев назад +1

    For game dev, perhaps this makes sense. For engineering, law, health and many more, you will be jobless without a degree.

  • @davidagiel8130
    @davidagiel8130 7 месяцев назад

    Sure, if it's free, otherwise you can search all the info or read a book

  • @latviesulegionars8806
    @latviesulegionars8806 3 года назад

    Why did you get fired from the cinema job?

  • @TorQueMoD
    @TorQueMoD 5 лет назад

    I agree with the sentiment entirely. I even wrote a Reddit post about the exact same thing but I'd take it one step further, Don't EVER go to a game design college UNLESS it's a 3 or 4 year program simply because you can't learn game design in a year. However, a school for programming is absolutely something you should sign up for - EVEN if you want to be an artist.
    www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/5y3sj2/want_to_be_a_game_designer_learn_from_my_mistakes/

    • @cyanz8830
      @cyanz8830 4 года назад

      Hello and I've just read your reddit.Thanks a lot for the info.It really helps me a lot to be informed of the game designs,but could I ask a few more questions?I'm currently taking undergraduate courses in programme designing relevant to network,and I also started to learn cg art on my own.But I wonder if those kinds of game dev college course provide help to learn designs tightly related to vediogames such as design of levels and rules ,because they are seldom invovled in other specific majors.Or it will just be okay to learn these things on my own? By the way,are these effort in learning indie game dev also useful in applying for companies with large projects?If you got time,reply me in brief plz and thank you very much

  • @sers499
    @sers499 Год назад

    Stunning, if true.
    In perspective of most college degrees, very believable. Most college is stupid and just makes colleges richer.

  • @LAM_G80085
    @LAM_G80085 5 лет назад +1

    Same happens in india
    I have all these BS subjects in my Computer science degree (like physics, chemistry,maths and a lot more BS subjects)
    So i BS my way through them
    Although i feel like i am wasting a lot of time but the truth is all the interviews require you to have a degree (some even require you not to have any single backlog)

  • @AleksandarPopovic
    @AleksandarPopovic 5 лет назад

    Good work!!!!

  • @Geostationary0rbit
    @Geostationary0rbit 5 лет назад

    this is very true wish Id known about this before hand

  • @cornyboi4434
    @cornyboi4434 5 лет назад

    What an subtle ad
    Great video btw

  • @aminehtajik5292
    @aminehtajik5292 5 лет назад

    you are amazing man

  • @xyon9090
    @xyon9090 4 года назад +1

    Is it worth it though if you're in Scholarship?