Little known fact, having a kinetic holster on your boots is a great thing to run with hawkmoon. Stow it just long enough until you hear audio que then swap back, you get 1 to two shots back and still keep your stacks
Just as a clarification, you still lose your stacks if you stow Hawkmoon while it's on the final shot. You have to stow it at 2 shots or above to keep your stacks.
I really appreciate all these builds being another dad of Destiny I don't have time to figure them out for myself and it's nice to be able to throw on some new builds and try them and see what works for me so thank you!
I've been living for double sidearms for the past few days thanks to your earlier vid. As someone who likes their primary to be their.. well.. primary, I'm digging the new sandbox.
Not really, everyone understands the meta, he’s just playing this mode that has no SBMM to death because he hates SBMM and has to play it before it’s gone. He’s just using it along with the changes to make some extra RUclips money while he can.
Remember to use kinetic holster (whatever leg perk reloads ammo) with hawkmoon. Let’s say you only get 2 headshots and you somehow missed 5 shots: stow your weapon, get more ammo and more chances to get headshots without reloading and restarting your stacks. Then get more headshots, and 2 tap. This is ridiculous in trials btw.
@@otisdriftwood7094 proxy did get nerfed, proxy nades sucks now in PvP. GL’s do 1-shot without proxy but you have to be slightly closer with your shots.
These build vids are great. I tried your Forerunner build from the other day and liked it so much that I devoted a loadout spot for it. Keep em coming!
I use lightweight knives with cryothesia. Here's the gameplay loop: - get a kill with cryosthesia - activate its special reload to get a freeze shot - freeze an opponent - use your lightweight knife to kill frozen opponent (which kills no matter where on the body you land your knife as long as they are still frozen And of course you get your throwing knife back assuming you have the right aspect and fragment combo) - Now you have radiance for your next sidearm kill to restart the loop all over again
I appreciate you taking your time and doing these videos. I struggle with PVP and leave the d2 scene. But I just recently built this same build. And I can’t wait to tweak mine using yours! 🤝🏾
Always appreciated your insights. That sniper stat is a testament to the playstyle that's required in Trials now. It's going to get dirty close quarters every time. Great whiskey content BTW
Dang, I always forget about Hawkmoon cause I love my Rose, Igneous, and Round Robin too much, but it SLAPS people up! Pairing it with Knucklehead also makes soooo much sense, can't wait to try it out! Love the out of the norm thinking here TV, thank you! Really wanna try this with the AE bonus plus Shatterdive for the extra movement!
love this build! old foe tracer was one of my fav exotics and i love the rework they gave foetracer but im really glad they transferred the exotic perk of foe tracer to knucklehead instead of just trashing it, definitely needed the love
Bungo literally was like "We are nerfing sniper rifles ability to hit long distance shots. I know that ks the whole point of them but it feels bad to get sniped..." You cant make this shit up...
Love this TV, with what little time ive had to play the new sandbox around my new job, hawkmoon has been my go to, feels so nice. This is almost the exact build ive been running. Ill try the lightweight knives but i love my weighted knife so much, and my stompees...
Last week I went flawless for the first time using Hawkmoon, sometimes swapping in DMT and knucklehead, I absolutely loved foetracter pre-merge and now I love knucklehead even more because it lets me swap off Ace
Dusted off my Knucklehead last week, been using it with my 180 rpm scout with box breathing. Helps mitigate any negatives of being scoped for a while. Such insanely quick 3 taps across the map.
I like your last couple of videos very much, it seems like you have found some fun in Destiny after a rough patch. Well, I guess most of us have been in the same boat. xD
I love how getting damaged to mark someone (disadvantage mitigation) was absolute heresy while just hovering over someone you're engaging and being able to track them behind cover (advantage amplification) is completely fine. I play mostly hunter but Bungie has a very holistic and esoteric way of balancing, like rolling dices and smoking their office chairs' stuffing and coming up with whatever makes them go "brooo"
Just like back when they nerfed behemoth's freeze on super cast because "freezing on super cast is too op" when the cast itself is as slow as molasses, while warlock freeze on rift cast is totally ok. Yeah, you have to be grounded, but you can use it very frequently because you're going to have T10 recovery anyway. Luckily it got reinstated but still, the nerf was stupid and getting it back is a proof of that.
I'm all in on a Majin Buu reference. And please keep talking about snipers. I was stunned to see them nerfed. Sniper players are unicorns these days...I miss my last word/sniper loadout
Used it in the first days, but im keeping to my wormhusk - and im also loving the adjudicator. Which, funny, feels nice with target lock. Onslaught aint bad but target lock is still pretty nice.
I’m scared to bring more attention to this, but oversoul edict is still ridiculous. enhanced keep away and headseeker= no need to aim your bullets are magnets, also it gets high cal rounds, so it flinches super hard cause it’s a rapid fire frame. as a piece of mind enjoyer, it’s my new go to
Snipers fall off is partially due to the ammo economy, I mean there’s such a great chance of bodyshotting or missing and waiting rounds for ammo versus just aping with a shotty and confirming a kill. Sure the accuracy change fs hurt but ammo hurts for a precision weapon
Try out Lunas howl or not forgotten. I was bored and took out not forgotten and it absolutely slaps. Magnificent howl and zen moment are great in current meta. Idk exact range numbers but it felt fine in most maps.
Haven't use foetracer yet. But I rock thorn and a solar build on warlock. And having the tick damage from the burns has saved me in so many situations. Haven't tried foe tracer hunter but if I get a good role I'll give it a spin. Gonna be a hard sell though because I like my lucky pants and speed loaders.
The funny part about the changes is that in Qp now i end up playing the same way i used to but i now end up with like 5 shotgun shots so if I happen to flip the spawn and move fast enough i just get free 3/4 feeds with the shotgun😂😂. I actually use special more than i did before in QP, for comp and trials tho I'd say the old one was better but they need to nerf snipers and fusions.
I don’t remember if you can have gunpowder gamble to proc even without grenade energy. Bc if it does you’ll never worry about lack of grenade abilities if you got a solar primary: like summoner or drang.
I still use snipers but I judge how fast the game goes to see if I'll get sniper ammo back enough, if my judgement feels otherwise I switch to a sidearm or smg in that slot.
I've been using knucklehead for months and I literally haven't used another exotic in pvp. People underestimate just how valuable the info knucklehead gives you truly is. Remember people...INFORMATION HELPS WIN WARS!
We lost 1.1m of range roughly so any HC below 70 range feels meh considering ammit which is the main gun atm has 33m with small bore which is the meta barrel. Ace feels okay but it still gets flinched even with 3ple unflinching so ehhh..😂
A 152 headshot damage source plus a single hand cannon bullet? This is just the bow-swap build but in reverse lol. I believe that should resil-check 8 or lower (IIRC 9 will barely live because of rounding). But given how the body/precision changes made Resil produce fewer TTK shifts, I pretty much only see Titan still running 10, mostly for barricade timers.
Tbh I'd love to see bungie buff snipers a bit to compensate for the nerfs, alongside a very specific nerf that i think would make them feel a lot more fair to fight against than they currently have been. See, I don't think they deserved that aim assist nerf recently. I think what they should do is make them lose aim assist while being flinched. Not at all times. Heck, you could even buff their aim assist compared to before there. That way, if you shoot first, you're going to have an easier time hitting the shot, but if you get shot first, your best bet is to disengage. Edit: to be clear, the existing flinch nerf did not fix the issue of "i shot sniper = they headshot me anyways" because the aim assist is so strong that they can flinch back near your head and just destroy you anyways. By reducing the aim assist significantly when they're being flinched, you can even buff their aim assist while not being flinched and have them feel more fair than they have felt for a while now.
bruh i tried the side arm build- getting into those tight spaces was way too hard against the laning larrys. now youre tellin me youre joinin the laning larrys albeit with a twist?? TV????
Won't lie, i'm a sniper hater. In any game. I was never good with them, and i haaaaaaaaate matching with a competent user. With all that said though, this build looks super interesting and will be giving it a shot later tonight. Thanks TV!
In 6s, sniping causes matchmaking issues due to people quitting out in response to being dinged a few times. Then, after a few tries, matchmaking gives up on replenishing players.
Honestly, I'm not sure why Bungie double hit snipers this time around, but it just means I can run double primary without a care in the world so... HC+scout of HC+sidearm depending on the map. Can't say I don't like it. Now I just need Bungie to fix whatever makes sidearms so much worse on MnK.
I wish i could love Hawkmoon, but i am a really bad compulsive reloader. I get a kill or break off from a fight, and i cant help but reload, so id be wasting Hawkmoon's potential lol
Anyone who doesn't like the new sandbox probably just upset they gotta use something other than thier primary shotguns. So refreshing to not have someone sprinting around every corner with a shotgun. Obviously the old sandbox wasnt working. Embrace the change
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Little known fact, having a kinetic holster on your boots is a great thing to run with hawkmoon. Stow it just long enough until you hear audio que then swap back, you get 1 to two shots back and still keep your stacks
No way, that is awesome
5 Seconds with 1 / 4 seconds with 2 for stat monkeys like myself.
Just as a clarification, you still lose your stacks if you stow Hawkmoon while it's on the final shot. You have to stow it at 2 shots or above to keep your stacks.
@@darthvader679 yes thank you for that. Sorry for not articulating that fully.
@@fotis3v480do you even English bro lol jk but fr what are you saying here
I really appreciate all these builds being another dad of Destiny I don't have time to figure them out for myself and it's nice to be able to throw on some new builds and try them and see what works for me so thank you!
I've been living for double sidearms for the past few days thanks to your earlier vid. As someone who likes their primary to be their.. well.. primary, I'm digging the new sandbox.
“i can’t remember the last time i saw a lightweight knife”
cryosthesia users:
Lightweight knife will kill a frozen guardian??
@@louiem2289 yup with a body shot too, and with knock em down it refunds itself on kill
Wow never knew that thanks man
TV is really getting out ahead of many of the other RUclipsrs on understanding the meta. This is a very cool build, I will probably give this a shot
Not really, everyone understands the meta, he’s just playing this mode that has no SBMM to death because he hates SBMM and has to play it before it’s gone. He’s just using it along with the changes to make some extra RUclips money while he can.
Remember to use kinetic holster (whatever leg perk reloads ammo) with hawkmoon. Let’s say you only get 2 headshots and you somehow missed 5 shots: stow your weapon, get more ammo and more chances to get headshots without reloading and restarting your stacks. Then get more headshots, and 2 tap.
This is ridiculous in trials btw.
So did proxy grenades get nerfed? It seems like my GL is only hitting for 212 with proxy, which won't kill a 10 resil guardian.
@@otisdriftwood7094 GLs period won't one-shot anymore fyi. They're basically dead in the water now.
@@otisdriftwood7094 proxy did get nerfed, proxy nades sucks now in PvP. GL’s do 1-shot without proxy but you have to be slightly closer with your shots.
uzume is the best feeling sniper to me, i love it
I love how most of TV's builds exist because they work and are fun. def my fav d2 youtuber, please keep up these videos
I was in your game on Bannerfall nice comeback ahahah let's go
These build vids are great. I tried your Forerunner build from the other day and liked it so much that I devoted a loadout spot for it. Keep em coming!
I use lightweight knives with cryothesia. Here's the gameplay loop:
- get a kill with cryosthesia
- activate its special reload to get a freeze shot
- freeze an opponent
- use your lightweight knife to kill frozen opponent (which kills no matter where on the body you land your knife as long as they are still frozen And of course you get your throwing knife back assuming you have the right aspect and fragment combo)
- Now you have radiance for your next sidearm kill to restart the loop all over again
I appreciate you taking your time and doing these videos. I struggle with PVP and leave the d2 scene. But I just recently built this same build. And I can’t wait to tweak mine using yours! 🤝🏾
Always appreciated your insights. That sniper stat is a testament to the playstyle that's required in Trials now. It's going to get dirty close quarters every time.
Great whiskey content BTW
Love to see you around more!
Dang, I always forget about Hawkmoon cause I love my Rose, Igneous, and Round Robin too much, but it SLAPS people up! Pairing it with Knucklehead also makes soooo much sense, can't wait to try it out! Love the out of the norm thinking here TV, thank you!
Really wanna try this with the AE bonus plus Shatterdive for the extra movement!
love this build! old foe tracer was one of my fav exotics and i love the rework they gave foetracer but im really glad they transferred the exotic perk of foe tracer to knucklehead instead of just trashing it, definitely needed the love
I love to see you back. I haven't gotten back yet, but you make it look so much fun 👍
This is the exact combo I’ve been running myself. Got a really nice EOTS hawkmoon and I feel like it’s an excellent dueling build
lightweight sidearm and a lightweight knife has always been a crazy combo and it’s better now
im glad someone actually talks about snipers. every single time bungie mentions snipers they nerf them.
Bungo literally was like "We are nerfing sniper rifles ability to hit long distance shots. I know that ks the whole point of them but it feels bad to get sniped..." You cant make this shit up...
I'm sure the pvp team has depression because they always get sniped or get cloudstriked
@@leeroy2752 there's literally no reason to use a sniper especially in the current sandbox, just a waste of special ammo that you may never get back
The issue with snipers is they have balanced them around the sweat crack head level of player. It makes them useless to mortals…
Love this TV, with what little time ive had to play the new sandbox around my new job, hawkmoon has been my go to, feels so nice. This is almost the exact build ive been running. Ill try the lightweight knives but i love my weighted knife so much, and my stompees...
God bless you dude. We appreciate your content and work, whether it's Destiny or variety.
Last week I went flawless for the first time using Hawkmoon, sometimes swapping in DMT and knucklehead, I absolutely loved foetracter pre-merge and now I love knucklehead even more because it lets me swap off Ace
Love your content vanguard, and may God continue to bless you and the channel! Keep it up!
Here for any and all content TV! Its the person for me not the content. Much love brother! And keep this content coming
Dusted off my Knucklehead last week, been using it with my 180 rpm scout with box breathing. Helps mitigate any negatives of being scoped for a while. Such insanely quick 3 taps across the map.
I’m here for the Majin Buu references 🔥
I now need a gun that turns enemies into candy when it kills them
@@shanesprinkle1628i think its possible if we turn eva levante into an exotic
@@advancegeo2986not space grandma
@@advancegeo2986sounds awfully close to the type of guardian a certain man with a golden gun is looking for. 😮
Get a life please
I like your last couple of videos very much, it seems like you have found some fun in Destiny after a rough patch. Well, I guess most of us have been in the same boat. xD
They updated on Tuesday for it all to be in the new sandbox
Knucklehead and sweet business is a fun combo, knucklehead on vwing is an insane one
Sturm + Drang absolutely slaps in this sandbox
Top notch informative and helpful content🎉 Time to rock Knuckle
Thanks for coming back home
I love how getting damaged to mark someone (disadvantage mitigation) was absolute heresy while just hovering over someone you're engaging and being able to track them behind cover (advantage amplification) is completely fine. I play mostly hunter but Bungie has a very holistic and esoteric way of balancing, like rolling dices and smoking their office chairs' stuffing and coming up with whatever makes them go "brooo"
Just like back when they nerfed behemoth's freeze on super cast because "freezing on super cast is too op" when the cast itself is as slow as molasses, while warlock freeze on rift cast is totally ok. Yeah, you have to be grounded, but you can use it very frequently because you're going to have T10 recovery anyway. Luckily it got reinstated but still, the nerf was stupid and getting it back is a proof of that.
Another quality TV video - please keep them coming and here’s to hitting 300K subs
Love me some Hawkmoon... Hey TV, what Dead Zone settings you using??
Most definitely will be giving this exotic a try this weekend
I don't even play Destiny anymore
But I always come back to watch TV play!
Love that you keep going TV Love the whiskey stuff too
TV what's the perk on your hawkmoon?
Been using knucklehead since the sandbox and it’s been nothing but great for me
Wooooooow Knucklehead is strongk since they added foetracer to it thanksssss
That majin reference made my day
"Hawkmoon is fricken dope, that's why". 😂 You're darn right it is buddy. You're darn right it is.
Bro out here telling everyone bout my favorite build since d1
Need a video like this but for warlocks lol. As a warlock main I feel like I could always be doing more, better, or both.
Does comp have the new sandbox cause i still have my abilities all the time so im still running ability focused exotics
I'm all in on a Majin Buu reference.
And please keep talking about snipers. I was stunned to see them nerfed. Sniper players are unicorns these days...I miss my last word/sniper loadout
Used it in the first days, but im keeping to my wormhusk - and im also loving the adjudicator. Which, funny, feels nice with target lock. Onslaught aint bad but target lock is still pretty nice.
Honestly I would not be surprised if Igneous catches a nerf soon. It's been by far the best and most used 120 for a long long time.
I’m scared to bring more attention to this, but oversoul edict is still ridiculous. enhanced keep away and headseeker= no need to aim your bullets are magnets, also it gets high cal rounds, so it flinches super hard cause it’s a rapid fire frame. as a piece of mind enjoyer, it’s my new go to
Snipers fall off is partially due to the ammo economy, I mean there’s such a great chance of bodyshotting or missing and waiting rounds for ammo versus just aping with a shotty and confirming a kill. Sure the accuracy change fs hurt but ammo hurts for a precision weapon
Try out Lunas howl or not forgotten. I was bored and took out not forgotten and it absolutely slaps. Magnificent howl and zen moment are great in current meta. Idk exact range numbers but it felt fine in most maps.
I haven't used knucklehead in the current sandbox, but i mained it in the old, so i can only imagine its newfound potency.
MIDA and Palindrome are doing wonders for me
Haven't use foetracer yet. But I rock thorn and a solar build on warlock. And having the tick damage from the burns has saved me in so many situations. Haven't tried foe tracer hunter but if I get a good role I'll give it a spin. Gonna be a hard sell though because I like my lucky pants and speed loaders.
I started using knucklehead since a trailer dropped a hunter with it whilst using last word + void blades
Ive been enjoying Adhortitive. Enhanced Incandescent and Enhanced Heal Clip. Kaboom!
What park does everyone go to? I keep hearing about this new sandbox
The funny part about the changes is that in Qp now i end up playing the same way i used to but i now end up with like 5 shotgun shots so if I happen to flip the spawn and move fast enough i just get free 3/4 feeds with the shotgun😂😂.
I actually use special more than i did before in QP, for comp and trials tho I'd say the old one was better but they need to nerf snipers and fusions.
Gunpowder gamble? Cammycakes would be proud
Nooooo don't tell people about how absolutely cracked Knucklehead is.
Forsaken sandbox was the best. My unnerfed striker,unnerfed oem and unnerfed nf. I miss that shit.
3:40 lmao dude thought he was John Cena
who?? I couldn't see him 😏
why no dim link.........................
Yo TV! At your next bungie meeting, can you ask them to being back Tlaloc? Thanks!
Doesn't have a place in this game. The perks that it has, most of the legendary weapons have it now.
Question: sniper;
Is there a sniper with ricochet & discord & mulligan all together?
B a fun trick shot sniper, but haven't seen 1 yet...
Mercurial Overreach can get that roll I'm pretty sure
Might want to take a look at sunshot again. I think it's nice in this meta
Huh? It can't even three tap
@@BurnerAcc-yy1sd It's 3 tapping fine for me..
@@severex9851 maybe with damage buff but not at base (might depend on resilience)
I don’t remember if you can have gunpowder gamble to proc even without grenade energy. Bc if it does you’ll never worry about lack of grenade abilities if you got a solar primary: like summoner or drang.
Thanks for being unique. Most other content creators are basic copy/paste creators.
What sniper does VG use?
I still use snipers but I judge how fast the game goes to see if I'll get sniper ammo back enough, if my judgement feels otherwise I switch to a sidearm or smg in that slot.
It's a double primary meta (after the first round at least)
I've been using knucklehead for months and I literally haven't used another exotic in pvp. People underestimate just how valuable the info knucklehead gives you truly is. Remember people...INFORMATION HELPS WIN WARS!
What is up TV. Hyped for TFS?
The majority of 140s feel kinda weak in this sandbox but thankfully the exotic ones still feel good to play with
We lost 1.1m of range roughly so any HC below 70 range feels meh considering ammit which is the main gun atm has 33m with small bore which is the meta barrel.
Ace feels okay but it still gets flinched even with 3ple unflinching so ehhh..😂
On it, I have been using Crimson and it hasn’t quite felt right on some maps.
Where does he say how to make this build?
Just look at the fact that you have a special meter. Obvious sign of the new sandbox
fuck this is the exact build i was looking for lowkey
Been using knucklehead again since the update to it
A 152 headshot damage source plus a single hand cannon bullet? This is just the bow-swap build but in reverse lol.
I believe that should resil-check 8 or lower (IIRC 9 will barely live because of rounding). But given how the body/precision changes made Resil produce fewer TTK shifts, I pretty much only see Titan still running 10, mostly for barricade timers.
Tbh I'd love to see bungie buff snipers a bit to compensate for the nerfs, alongside a very specific nerf that i think would make them feel a lot more fair to fight against than they currently have been.
See, I don't think they deserved that aim assist nerf recently.
I think what they should do is make them lose aim assist while being flinched. Not at all times. Heck, you could even buff their aim assist compared to before there.
That way, if you shoot first, you're going to have an easier time hitting the shot, but if you get shot first, your best bet is to disengage.
Edit: to be clear, the existing flinch nerf did not fix the issue of "i shot sniper = they headshot me anyways" because the aim assist is so strong that they can flinch back near your head and just destroy you anyways. By reducing the aim assist significantly when they're being flinched, you can even buff their aim assist while not being flinched and have them feel more fair than they have felt for a while now.
Just getting back into crucible, anyone got any recommendations on fragments to synergies with this build?
bruh i tried the side arm build- getting into those tight spaces was way too hard against the laning larrys.
now youre tellin me youre joinin the laning larrys albeit with a twist?? TV????
But... Hawkmoon isn't a laning weapon. It's a mid range at best dueler.
Free wallhacks are OP and insanely crutch
Won't lie, i'm a sniper hater. In any game. I was never good with them, and i haaaaaaaaate matching with a competent user. With all that said though, this build looks super interesting and will be giving it a shot later tonight. Thanks TV!
If y'all don't want to run honkmoon, Revision Zero is on the table, too. I was doming kids with its Funny Bullet earlier.
The who of hand cannons
SSSHHHHHHH DON'T LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT MY KNUCKLEHEAD
Ive not taken knucklehead off since it's rework, it's just that good
It’s stupid overpowered lol
Mida combo and wormhusk boom
Sounds like they smashed Foetracer into Knucklehead
5:00 so what’s the Fat Buu of handcannons? Lol
In 6s, sniping causes matchmaking issues due to people quitting out in response to being dinged a few times. Then, after a few tries, matchmaking gives up on replenishing players.
No offense meant when mentioning "Why were snipers nerfed more? idk. [proceeds to explain why snipers would need to be nerfed]" is funny.
Honestly, I'm not sure why Bungie double hit snipers this time around, but it just means I can run double primary without a care in the world so... HC+scout of HC+sidearm depending on the map. Can't say I don't like it. Now I just need Bungie to fix whatever makes sidearms so much worse on MnK.
I wish i could love Hawkmoon, but i am a really bad compulsive reloader. I get a kill or break off from a fight, and i cant help but reload, so id be wasting Hawkmoon's potential lol
What's the fragments
I was running dmt this trials and igneous was easily competing with it
Anyone who doesn't like the new sandbox probably just upset they gotta use something other than thier primary shotguns. So refreshing to not have someone sprinting around every corner with a shotgun. Obviously the old sandbox wasnt working. Embrace the change